Since purchasing my phone almost 2 weeks ago I have never gotten 3g. I have replaced my sim and also upgraded data. I have one day left to return and I'm wondering if you guys too are having this issue. Or perhaps is it a tower/radio issue?
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It won't ever show 3g
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Yeah i saw the same thing. I think it's has a lot to do with TMO's 4G not actually being a different technology than it's 3G. So in most cases if you have 3G you also have 4G. Are there any areas where you know that TMO's HSPA+ network doesn't have coverage but the normal 3G coverage does? I'd be interested in that. I couldn't test in my area because the 3G coverage is the exact same as the 4G so the indicator would only change if I entered an edge only area.
The G2 only displays an H which can either be 3G or 4G but it's not differentiated on the phone. So I think it's just because of TMO's network not being a separate technology that requires a different radio. So the phone won't go from 4G to 3G to Edge. It goes straight to 2G because 3g and 4G is the same in technology. Only difference is speed and that that's with any network where you have different speeds in different places.
The 4G is a souped up version of their 3G so you won't see 3G ever AFAIK.
Thought i was the only one that noticed
As a t-mob tech rep I can confirm that this is true. The phone will either display 2 or 4. It was even in the brief training we received. No need to return it
Get Mobile Signal Widget if you want to see it go between 3G(UMTS) or H(HSPA+)
It will not show 3G/4G because it would flip between the two too much.
Yesterday I saw it just said "G". Phone was slow as ****. I love this thing.
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The 4G is a souped up version of their 3G so you won't see 3G ever AFAIK.
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It's the same on the G2x that I had briefly.
good to know cause im in love with my phone and didnt wanna chance a exchange! its really not enough good about this phone on here but for any of you on the edge its a great phone coming from a hd2 which was also the SH!T !!
Just a little extra info on this. EVERY 3G cell site in T-Mobile's network is HSPA capable so whenever you are on a 3G site your have HSPA access BUT not every site is HSPA+ (4G speeds). With that said, your phone does not know the difference so even if we wanted an icon to show the difference we couldn't have it. There is one more mode and that is UMTS. This only shows when your phone is idle and not doing data (not very often). It does NOT mean your don't have HSPA access on that site, it just means your phone is not currently doing data. So, we could have a 3G icon for when your idle but your phone would be constantly switching from 3G icon to 4G or H (whichever you have) and that would be annoying. Hope this helps.
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There is one more mode and that is UMTS. This only shows when your phone is idle and not doing data (not very often). It does NOT mean your don't have HSPA access on that site, it just means your phone is not currently doing data. So, we could have a 3G icon for when your idle but your phone would be constantly switching from 3G icon to 4G or H (whichever you have) and that would be annoying. Hope this helps.
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That's what it did for the HD2 & it let me know when I was actually pulling down data, just look for 3G or the H
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That's what it did for the HD2 & it let me know when I was actually pulling down data, just look for 3G or the H
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You will still know with the data activity arrows.
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You will still know with the data activity arrows.
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On the Sensation yes, HD2 running WM though it was about the only way to know
Its a lie. It just says 4G instead of 3G. Never 3G. Its a ploy to make you believe they have 4G everywhere.
I have an unbranded Asian Sensation and it shows 3G once and a while. There is this one area I notice it switches from the H(4G) to 3G. I know TMO changed the H icon with a 4G one so maybe they removed the 3G one show it always shows 4G even if on 3G??
Ive seen it switch to 3g and its like not having internet. Speeds around 50-100 kbps . A friend with mt4g confirmed.
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~~Tito~~ said:
Its a lie. It just says 4G instead of 3G. Never 3G. Its a ploy to make you believe they have 4G everywhere.
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Tito, long time no see!
LOL, true that t-Mob is trying to brainwash the XDA gang
DeezNotes said:
Yesterday I saw it just said "G". Phone was slow as ****. I love this thing.
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You were on a regular GSM connection, those are old and slow. Not your phones fault, it was basically trying to use data over a rotary phone.
Is your device from tmobile?
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ive noticed that i get a 4g and a 2g icon but wheres the 3g icon? has anyone seened it?
Travling through the middle of nowhere over the last 3 days I've seen, no signal, G, 2G, 3G, & 4G. It's there.
I also have not seen the 3G icon. I drive through the city and would think when I get out if 4G I would at least still be in a 3G area. Wonder if something may be wrong....
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Cyberdan3 said:
I also have not seen the 3G icon. I drive through the city and would think when I get out if 4G I would at least still be in a 3G area. Wonder if something may be wrong....
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Same here but this is the first 4G device I have had and I know for a fact most of my city is covered by 4G. What is also weird is that in areas where I would have 1 or 2 bars with my Vibrant, it is telling me I have full bars worth of 4G with the G2X.
its there in the framwork i checked..
Im just wondering why it doesnt display 3G when its on UMTS... it sticks to 4G all the time...
very strange in the instruction manual it also shows 3g icon!
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its there in the framwork i checked..
Im just wondering why it doesnt display 3G when its on UMTS... it sticks to 4G all the time...
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A lot of this has to do with the fact that T-Mobile's 3G towers == their 4G towers so if you're in an area where all of their towers have been upgraded to HSPA+ you will NEVER show 3G because you're always on a 4G tower. The only time you will show a 3G signal is if you're in an older area where they have pre-HSPA+ upgradeable towers. This is how T-mobile can say they have the biggest 4G network because almost all of their old HSPA/3G equipment has been turned into 4G equipment via software upgrades.
I have had my g2x for about 5 days and all I ever see is 4G or E never 3g. I have been checking in the settings/about phone/status and even when the phone is showing 3-4 bars of 4G it is still on umts. In the exact same location and within a minute or so when checking it with my Vibrant I will have 3 bars of H or 3G and in status it shows as hspda or hspda+. What is that about? I have checked this out at least 6 to 7 times a day and it is always the same only umts on the G2X and Hspda or Hspda+ on the Vibrant. I called CS and they wanted to send out another G2X I reluctantly said yes. I do really like this phone and will try to be patient but the device I have now has multiple issues. I am going to take the stance that this is an isolated case and the new one will be golden!!!
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A lot of this has to do with the fact that T-Mobile's 3G towers == their 4G towers so if you're in an area where all of their towers have been upgraded to HSPA+ you will NEVER show 3G because you're always on a 4G tower. The only time you will show a 3G signal is if you're in an older area where they have pre-HSPA+ upgradeable towers. This is how T-mobile can say they have the biggest 4G network because almost all of their old HSPA/3G equipment has been turned into 4G equipment via software upgrades.
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This is true. There's pretty much no need for a '3G' icon. Though, technically, it's debatable whether or not T-Mo's (or any other carriers) offerings right now are actually '4G' (according to the standards committees that define those things), but that's a different argument
tl;dr: T-Mo's 3G and 4G operate on pretty much the same technology, so if you're in an area where there was 3G, you'll probably have 4G. It doesn't need to switch back and forth or be toggled like the other solutions (looking at you Wi-Max)
I have noticed in the 3 days since I have had my g2x that I never get 3g, I either get 2g or 4g on my status bar, but never 3g. Anybody else having this issue?? Considering sending it back to TMO for a new one. And yes I have a new similar card, got it about 3 months ago when I had my G2.
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I've noticed the same thing though idk if that's really a bad thing....
They probably lumped 3g and 4g together.
That's what I was thinking but wasn't sure.....has anyone seen 3G on their status bar ever????
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Come to think of it... I haven't.
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I've read other threads here where people report seeing a 3G icon... I haven't seen it myself.
But it's possible that we're in areas where HSPA+ is turned on, which is "4G", and once you leave that range, you are in 2G (EDGE) territory. In other words, there's no area near us that is just HSPA (3G), it's either HSPA+ or EDGE.
Too many people not doing a search. No one has seen the 3g logo/symbol yet. Also a side note for those complaining about 4g speeds:
T-Mobile USA uses the 1700/2100 MHz AWS Band for its 3G network. The carrier states it allows faster download and upload data speeds utilizing HSPA+ technology, which allows for simultaneous voice and data. Upgrades to HSPA+ are planned for 2009 through 2010 which may boost average download speeds from 7.2Mbps to 21Mbps. (Reported from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile)
But my old G2 that I had just a few days ago hag Edge(2G), 3G, and H(HSPA/4G). Now with my new g2x it's either 2G, or 4G. No 3G.
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yes they are lump together. It's always 4g or 2g. It's a marketing thing, they want us to think that we always have 4g, when a lot of the time we're only getting 3g speeds.
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yes they are lump together. It's always 4g or 2g. It's a marketing thing, they want us to think that we always have 4g, when a lot of the time we're only getting 3g speeds.
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This, its not that we don't have 3g. Its that the display in the upper right hand corner says either 2g or 4g.
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yes they are lump together. It's always 4g or 2g. It's a marketing thing, they want us to think that we always have 4g, when a lot of the time we're only getting 3g speeds.
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I agree. My "4G" speeds range from 1.5 Mbps to 7.0 Mbps down depending on my physical location
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Too many people not doing a search. No one has seen the 3g logo/symbol yet. Also a side note for those complaining about 4g speeds:
T-Mobile USA uses the 1700/2100 MHz AWS Band for its 3G network. The carrier states it allows faster download and upload data speeds utilizing HSPA+ technology, which allows for simultaneous voice and data. Upgrades to HSPA+ are planned for 2009 through 2010 which may boost average download speeds from 7.2Mbps to 21Mbps. (Reported from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile)
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Actually there is a thread here where someone stated they did see 3G (I'm skeptical) on a long distance driving trip they did.
There is also a comment from someone that the "missing" 3G icon is a bug TMO is aware of and will fix in the first software update. Take it for what it's worth (although I would believe this one).
You will not see a 3G icon appear on any TMO 4G device.
Here is the reason:T-Mobile is using the same frequencies for 3G as they do for "4G". Meaning they are using the same cell tower/antenna. The upgrade in speed comes from a base station software upgrade and a strengthened backhaul. HSPA+ devices branded as 4G literally cannot tell the difference between 3G and 4G.
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You will not see a 3G icon appear on any TMO 4G device.
Here is the reason:T-Mobile is using the same frequencies for 3G as they do for "4G". Meaning they are using the same cell tower/antenna. The upgrade in speed comes from a base station software upgrade and a strengthened backhaul. HSPA+ devices branded as 4G literally cannot tell the difference between 3G and 4G.
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You forgot a technology: UMTS (on which HSPA is based). It can tell the difference between UMTS and HSPA (but not HSPA and HSPA+). That's why other phones have had separate "3G" and "H" icons. Both were originally 3G technologies (in the same way that GPRS and EDGE are both 2G), but HSPA has been expanded to now qualify as a 4G technology (I'm not going to argue semantics here, HSPA+ is 4G and provides faster speeds than WiMAX).
Has anyone pulled apart the framework-res.apk to see if there's a 3G png in there?
I haven't seen 3g sign either, only 2g or 4g, mostly 2g though, and I'm in vegas... I'm returning the phone for that reason, and I have very bad light bleeding from the top corners too. When calling t mobile, they don't even try to troubleshoot, I guess they r aware of that problem already. Now I'm waiting for another one in the mail
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Too many people not doing a search. No one has seen the 3g logo/symbol yet. Also a side note for those complaining about 4g speeds:
T-Mobile USA uses the 1700/2100 MHz AWS Band for its 3G network. The carrier states it allows faster download and upload data speeds utilizing HSPA+ technology, which allows for simultaneous voice and data. Upgrades to HSPA+ are planned for 2009 through 2010 which may boost average download speeds from 7.2Mbps to 21Mbps. (Reported from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile)
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Just to add: The G2x is limited to 14.4Mbps theoretical maximum download speed So you won't enjoy anywhere near 21Mbps, or 42Mbps which is now rolling out slowly and is already in 3 cities (Las Vegas, NYC, Orlando). The most I've gotten on my G2x is 7.9Mbps down.
moemoney12 said:
yes they are lump together. It's always 4g or 2g. It's a marketing thing, they want us to think that we always have 4g, when a lot of the time we're only getting 3g speeds.
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This.
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bobthq said:
I haven't seen 3g sign either, only 2g or 4g, mostly 2g though, and I'm in vegas... I'm returning the phone for that reason, and I have very bad light bleeding from the top corners too. When calling t mobile, they don't even try to troubleshoot, I guess they r aware of that problem already. Now I'm waiting for another one in the mail
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I can understand returning the phone because of the bleeding but to say your going to return the device because you haven't seen a 3G icon is laughable.
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I haven't seen a 3G icon either but I don't think ir bothers me one bit. In fact, I am trying to grasp why it would bother anyone.
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4G Says UMTS ?????
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I haven't seen a 3G icon either but I don't think ir bothers me one bit. In fact, I am trying to grasp why it would bother anyone.
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My beef is not the lack of a 3G icon, although I have yet to see one on my phone.
My beef is the lack of reception at my work, a problem the Galaxy S 4G and MyTouch 4G dont seem to have.
And why does the phone say UMTS when its on 4G ?
That right there tends to make me think the phone has an issue
(along with poor/no reception at work).
I've already rebooted, removed battery/sim, tried to switch network modes, etc. I can't get it to connect to 4g and I'm in a "4g very good" area. I contacted tmobile chat and they are not sure what is happening and suggest I swap for a different phone. Really? Is this a common problem?
Maybe you can check out one of the many threads concerning data issues instead of making a new one.
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You probably got the wrong sensation. The one without the 1700 UMTS band
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You probably got the wrong sensation. The one without the 1700 UMTS band
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Where do I find this information?
Assuming you purchased the Sensation from T-Mobile it shoudl work as long as they placed a 4G capable SIM in your phone. Without it you won't be able to receive 4G service.
Is there a way to tell if I received a 4G capable sim? I ordered online, so I just got it in the mail today.
I went in today and Tmobile swapped out my sim card for a new one - I get the same issue to. And I was advsd they are not 4g cards - just updated cards
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I went in today and Tmobile swapped out my sim card for a new one - I get the same issue to. And I was advsd they are not 4g cards - just updated cards
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Did the new sim fix the problem?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1128335
My issue with 4g in Texas. Seems like many others are having data outages as well and not just with the S4G.
The guy on chat said there are currently no 4G outages in my area.
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The guy on chat said there are currently no 4G outages in my area.
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Chat dont know sh!t. I went through the same song and dance. Call up customer care or 611 on your phone and see if you get an automated response regarding data outages.
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I went in today and Tmobile swapped out my sim card for a new one - I get the same issue to. And I was advsd they are not 4g cards - just updated cards
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Where they able to replicate your issue on any of the handsets at the TMobile store? If its a coverage issue all of the phones at the store should experience the same problem. Unless it's something specifically wrong with your phone.
You tried switching the network to CDMA only? That should not let your phone connect to 2g
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Well guys, I went down to a t-mobile store and guess what?
4g isn't up yet in my area. They are currently working on it.
So that's kinda messed up...I mean, the coverage chart shows 4g up and running in my area already. I drove to the city next to mine (10 miles), and sure enough, 4G pops up.
the coverage map in green is not for 3G or 4G. its for the 2G network. try locking it on WCDMA ONLY if you don't get a signal you are outside of the 4G coverage area. I just use WiFi. what city is this?
I know the coverage map in green is voice, the purple/pink map is for 4g. That map shows my area covered under "4g very good."
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't it go to 3G if you don't have 4G? And if you don't have 3G it goes to 2G(EDGE)?
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Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't it go to 3G if you don't have 4G? And if you don't have 3G it goes to 2G(EDGE)?
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Yes. But if your area has been updated to just hspa+ then if you leave that it'll go to edge
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Yes. But if your area has been updated to just hspa+ then if you leave that it'll go to edge
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So basically, on a 4G phone you can't get 3G?
Let's say a 3G phone enters that area, it'll get 3G right?
From what I understand, 4g is basically 3g, so if you don't get 4g, you go to 2g.
Just want to ask, what is the difference between H and H+ on Inspire 4G..
H = 3G?
H+ = 4G??
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Yes. The ITU classifies HSPA+ as a 4G technology even though it will never hit their own definition of 4G speed. Wikipedia has a great article about the different 4G technologies. Would post a link if I weren't mobile.
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limx said:
Just want to ask, what is the difference between H and H+ on Inspire 4G..
H = 3G?
H+ = 4G??
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there is no difference for this phone. In other countries they don't have this magical H+ that AT&T thinks they need to fool their customers with and call it 4g
H and H+ are essentially the same thing when it comes to this phone and Roms. Roms that originate from desire hd land will indicate your 'H+' connection with a simple 'H'
limx said:
Just want to ask, what is the difference between H and H+ on Inspire 4G..
H = 3G?
H+ = 4G??
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Yea if you're talking about the icon, you can't really rely on that. Currently ATT has a 3G network which is UMTS. They improved this network a few years ago and were able to push faster speeds and deemed this their HSDPA network, widely referred to as 3.5G. They've just started rolling out their new network, HSPA+, which, like biglittlegato said, is technically a 4G technology. Now they're about to start rolling out LTE, which is also a 4G technology, but capable of faster speeds then HSPA+
But again, different chefs use different network indicators, as do different bases that ROMs are built off of, for the different networks. If you want to know what network you're actually connected to -
Settings - About Phone - Network and look at Mobile Network Type
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there is no difference for this phone. In other countries they don't have this magical H+ that AT&T thinks they need to fool their customers with and call it 4g
H and H+ are essentially the same thing when it comes to this phone and Roms. Roms that originate from desire hd land will indicate your 'H+' connection with a simple 'H'
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+1 on using it to fool customers ...but I do have to admit, I get that warm fuzzy feeling when I see the H+ hahaha.
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+1 on using it to fool customers ...but I do have to admit, I get that warm fuzzy feeling when I see the H+ hahaha.
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Ok, its a long story, but for a while I didn't have a data plan activated on my work phone (the Inspire) all of the sudden it is on, I now get the "H" with CM7 Nightly #179.
So I ran speed test on the Inspire and my OG Droid (VZW 3G), here's some interesting results
So the Inspire (H) got 264ms Ping, 3584kbps d/l, 1679kbps u/l
OG D1 (3G) 228ms, 0.10Mbps d/l, 0.33Mbps u/l
I haven't traveled much since I just got data, but two questions, does anyone know if CM7 shows H+? 2nd, if not, what ROM's may actually goto 4G?
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I haven't traveled much since I just got data, but two questions, does anyone know if CM7 shows H+? 2nd, if not, what ROM's may actually goto 4G?
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no CM7 does not show H+
and i dont understand why its so hard to comprehend. the symbol means literally nothing. there is no secret 4G network that only the inspire can access. its the same network its been for years. its an icon. it means literally nothing. they all get "4G"
im going to say it again, because this question comes up all the damn time.
THE H/H+ ICON MEANS NOTHING
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THE H/H+ ICON MEANS NOTHING
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+1 Well stated..!
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Pirateghost said:
no CM7 does not show H+
and i dont understand why its so hard to comprehend. the symbol means literally nothing. there is no secret 4G network that only the inspire can access. its the same network its been for years. its an icon. it means literally nothing. they all get "4G"
im going to say it again, because this question comes up all the damn time.
THE H/H+ ICON MEANS NOTHING
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Agreed it really doesnt and I have started a thread to maybe put this to rest once and for all. HERE
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no CM7 does not show H+
and i dont understand why its so hard to comprehend. the symbol means literally nothing. there is no secret 4G network that only the inspire can access. its the same network its been for years. its an icon. it means literally nothing. they all get "4G"
im going to say it again, because this question comes up all the damn time.
THE H/H+ ICON MEANS NOTHING
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Thanks, part of my confusion may have been b/c because my D1 showed in Mbps, while the Inspire showed in kbps. Call it a brain fart, even though the speedometer showed properly during the test how much faster the inspire was, it threw me for a loop.
Since I never had data service with the stock I only had the user's manual to go off of, it shows H+ but no H.
That may be the cause the confusion for most too.
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OP: I see you are running Android Revolution. I've noticed that it doesn't display H+ whereas the stock rom does show H+. I just rooted and installed ARHD and was thrown off by the plain "H".
The top icon says "4g" yet in my internet settings it says wcdma not hspa or anything like that. Does this mean it isn't 4g??
I'm assuming you are looking under Mobile Network Setting > Network Mode. If that is in fact what your are referring to, then you have nothing to worry about. What you are seeing in the type of connection the phone is using to connect to the network. GSM is the network T-Mobile and AT&T uses (SIM card), and CDMA is what Verizon and Sprint uses (old technology). If you are getting the 4G icon on your status bar, then you are connected at 4G speeds.
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Thank you, question tho i'm always either on 4g or edge, why? I love the 4g speeds but why no 3g? I never see the icon read 3g?
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same here always 4g or edge. No 3g
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From time to time you may see G (3G), or the slowest speed 2G (Edge), and this just means the signal is fluctuating from the available connection speeds in your area, this is normal. You will never just get 4G all the time, it will go in and out. Your phones are doing what they are supposed to do. And be aware some areas have no 4G at all.
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the reason why you are not seeing 3g is cause the 3g icon has been replaced by 4g. cause technically there is no 4g yet. its a marketing ploy to get more people to buy new phones. dont get me wrong cause its not really 3g you are connected to its more like 3.5g.
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From time to time you may see G (3G), or the slowest speed 2G (Edge),
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Have to correct you on this, G = GPRS, E = Edge (2G).
Divine flaw said:
the reason why you are not seeing 3g is cause the 3g icon has been replaced by 4g. cause technically there is no 4g yet. its a marketing ploy to get more people to buy new phones. dont get me wrong cause its not really 3g you are connected to its more like 3.5g.
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this guy is correct. if you really want to know what connection you have you can swap out the icons for your data connectivity or install Elixir & look at what it says there. If you're connected to 3G it'll say UTMS & it'll say HSPA for 4G/HSPA
Divine flaw said:
the reason why you are not seeing 3g is cause the 3g icon has been replaced by 4g. cause technically there is no 4g yet. its a marketing ploy to get more people to buy new phones. dont get me wrong cause its not really 3g you are connected to its more like 3.5g.
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Damn I knew some **** like this was up. any idea when real 4g will be out
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nbochoa said:
Damn I knew some **** like this was up. any idea when real 4g will be out
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No one has finished deploying faux G networks and no real 4G phones are being sold. I imagine it will take 5-10 years for true 4G to be available in more than a few small markets. It just doesn't make financial sense for service providers to replace/upgrade equipment over and over again in a short timeframe.
So me having a sensation would mean what I have is the fastest I can get or would changing my ROM help me get the "42 mbps" t mobile claims to have.
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No one has finished deploying faux G networks and no real 4G phones are being sold. I imagine it will take 5-10 years for true 4G to be available in more than a few small markets. It just doesn't make financial sense for service providers to replace/upgrade equipment over and over again in a short timeframe.
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I dunno, one could say LTE is 4G.
lianw said:
I dunno, one could say LTE is 4G.
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So the Verizon lte is faster than hspa+
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nbochoa said:
So the Verizon lte is faster than hspa+
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda premium
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Higher theoretical higher throughput performance. Real-world results are of course, different.
It all depends on the area (population density, etc) as well as the quality of the network infrastructure.
Here are some results:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/4G-s...e-holds-the-fort-in-smartphone-speeds_id17405
nbochoa said:
So me having a sensation would mean what I have is the fastest I can get or would changing my ROM help me get the "42 mbps" t mobile claims to have.
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The Sensation is not capable of achieving that speed. It's a hardware limitation, not software.
It's quasi-impossible to obtain the full theoretical maximum speed a network provider advertises.
nbochoa said:
So me having a sensation would mean what I have is the fastest I can get or would changing my ROM help me get the "42 mbps" t mobile claims to have.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda premium
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Max "theoretical" speed is 14.4mb. Speeds vary by location.
I can't get above 2 or 3, MAYBE 4 mbps on a good day, not sure why. I got 3 or 4mbps regularly on my old mytouch 3g slide using the HSPA network, I figured HSPA+ would be faster, not slower, but I have yet to pinpoint my problem. I was expecting a good 5-8 at least, but oh well.
As for Verizon's LTE, it's still not technically 4G. 4G is TECHNICALLY required to have a theoretical maximum output of 1 GBPS, of course, nothing would be able to achieve that initially, but that is the required theoretical maximum for 4G specifications. But there's nothing they can do about companies claiming 4G. Although what can they really do, they've already sucked the 3G term dry, and it's kind of a stupid marketing campaign to say 3.75G or HSPA+, it's easier for the vast majority of technologically incompetent Americans to understand if they just say 4G. But just wait for when the mass confusion ensues when real 4G does really get invented, then everyone's going to say "I thought that was 4G before! What's this 4G? We'll call it 5G!"
It'll be an endless cycle of marketing ploys.
Divine flaw said:
the reason why you are not seeing 3g is cause the 3g icon has been replaced by 4g. cause technically there is no 4g yet. its a marketing ploy to get more people to buy new phones. dont get me wrong cause its not really 3g you are connected to its more like 3.5g.
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Not entirely true, I do get a "G" symbol from time to time out her in San Diego when I am on the stock ROM, which "G" is 3G. There is a difference between the 3 bands, and 4G is much faster when you do get it.
SoFaKiNgStOkeD said:
Not entirely true, I do get a "G" symbol from time to time out her in San Diego when I am on the stock ROM, which "G" is 3G. There is a difference between the 3 bands, and 4G is much faster when you do get it.
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Uh no, if you get just a G then you're on GPRS & that is slower than EDGE.
If you're on a stock Tmobile US ROM you will never see 3G since they disabled it from showing.
SoFaKiNgStOkeD said:
Not entirely true, I do get a "G" symbol from time to time out her in San Diego when I am on the stock ROM, which "G" is 3G. There is a difference between the 3 bands, and 4G is much faster when you do get it.
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thats funny..... g =gprs not 3g. think of it as 1g. and yes i do get a g signal every time i head down to the dungeon at work and i cant for the life of me connect to the internet. even on my old phone which was an hd2 i would get a g signal if im down in the dungeon. but guess what that phone had a 3g icon and when im not in the dungeon i was connected to a 3g network cause my phone had that icon. if you are telling me this g signal is 3g than im sorry your wrong.