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New to XDA -- help needed, please!

Hey XDA,
First post here! But jumping right in: I've had a few Android phones in the past (Nexus One, Samsung Captivate, Motorola Atrix), but have never attempted to mess with it before. I traded my Nexus One for a Samsung Captivate last summer, and have thoroughly regretted it since. Now I'm using an HTC Inspire (returned my Atrix) since I was told that the Inspire had a more active developer community.
What I want to do is just to get Cyanogen 7 on my phone (assuming that I'm able to use it as a wifi hotspot like I could using my old N1). But like I mentioned, I'm completely new to this, and don't even know where to start.
I've been browsing this forum a bit, but most of the stuff just goes way over my head. Gold cards, Kernels, ROMs, etc. I'm definitely willing to take the time to learn, but if you guys could just help point me in the right direction, that would be fantastic.
I've taken a look at the Inspire Hack Kit thread as well as the CM7 thread, but have no idea what a lot of the stuff is asking for. I can follow directions well, but I'm just afraid of rendering my phone unusable. On top of it all, I don't have any previous experience, so troubleshooting will be extremely difficult if anything goes wrong.
Help? I just want Wifi Hotspot on my phone and to get rid of HTC Sense. Cyanogen looks real smooth.
Thanks again!

If all you want is hotspot, try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=960058. I used this for root http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406. Much easier than the hack kit.

The hack kit is less prone to issues down the line for the phone.
At least that's what I have read from others.
Sent from my most memorable Inspire 4G

There's a video in our section that can guide you through the process or search you tube for it if necessary.
There are also easier ways to make a gold card, you just have to read around and see what works best for you.
Sent from my most memorable Inspire 4G

to achieve root, download and follow the instructions in attn1s hack kit. there is a readme that takes you through step by step. i only link the hack kit because its the only root option that i have personal experience with. if you need help, visit the link in my signature.
after you're rooted, you can install cm7 by following the instructions in this thread.

corsairjuly said:
Hey XDA,
First post here! But jumping right in: I've had a few Android phones in the past (Nexus One, Samsung Captivate, Motorola Atrix), but have never attempted to mess with it before. I traded my Nexus One for a Samsung Captivate last summer, and have thoroughly regretted it since. Now I'm using an HTC Inspire (returned my Atrix) since I was told that the Inspire had a more active developer community.
What I want to do is just to get Cyanogen 7 on my phone (assuming that I'm able to use it as a wifi hotspot like I could using my old N1). But like I mentioned, I'm completely new to this, and don't even know where to start.
I've been browsing this forum a bit, but most of the stuff just goes way over my head. Gold cards, Kernels, ROMs, etc. I'm definitely willing to take the time to learn, but if you guys could just help point me in the right direction, that would be fantastic.
I've taken a look at the Inspire Hack Kit thread as well as the CM7 thread, but have no idea what a lot of the stuff is asking for. I can follow directions well, but I'm just afraid of rendering my phone unusable. On top of it all, I don't have any previous experience, so troubleshooting will be extremely difficult if anything goes wrong.
Help? I just want Wifi Hotspot on my phone and to get rid of HTC Sense. Cyanogen looks real smooth.
Thanks again!
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I have a basic knowledge of changing ROMS if you follow the great devs here you should have 99.8% success rate.
Here are the links to what I used and was up and ROMing after about an hour(slow dlo speeds):
Simple S-OFF w/Root http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
Radio S-OFF http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
ENG S-OFF http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403

Go to Simple Root and S-Off
[DEV][GUI][RC1][GPL][3-03-2011] HTC Inspire 4G Simple Root and S-OFF
Thanks to Bubby323! He did an awesome job to make this happen for all of us!
Follow the directions EXACTLY and you should be good to go.
I picked up my inspire on Sat and I started to read and read and read. Then I read some more.
First couple of tries did not work and then when I saw what I was doing wrong it worked fine.
I am rooted and been using the Inspire all day - Not a hitch

That is one of the links I posted above.

Hey thanks, guys! All of you have been extremely helpful.
I took a look through the Enabling-Wifi-Hotspot link posted above, and it worked like a charm.
I still want to get rid of the Sense UI, though. I really like the look of Cyanogen, as it's the closest to stock Gingerbread. I've used Motoblur, Touchwiz, and now Sense UI, and I still prefer stock Android over any of the UI skins.
Do you guys think that there will be an easier way to get Cyanogen on the Inspire (such as a program that does it for you), or should I just go ahead and attempt it now? I'm not unwilling to learn how to do this stuff, but like I mentioned above, I'm just afraid of messing up my phone and being unable to get it back to its original state.

corsairjuly said:
Hey thanks, guys! All of you have been extremely helpful.
I took a look through the Enabling-Wifi-Hotspot link posted above, and it worked like a charm.
I still want to get rid of the Sense UI, though. I really like the look of Cyanogen, as it's the closest to stock Gingerbread. I've used Motoblur, Touchwiz, and now Sense UI, and I still prefer stock Android over any of the UI skins.
Do you guys think that there will be an easier way to get Cyanogen on the Inspire (such as a program that does it for you), or should I just go ahead and attempt it now? I'm not unwilling to learn how to do this stuff, but like I mentioned above, I'm just afraid of messing up my phone and being unable to get it back to its original state.
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It's near impossible to brick this phone, especially if you have a spare microSD with a pd98IMG.zip of the OS laying around. Like the one included in the hack kit.

[Q] Root now or wait for Gingerbread?

Hey all,
I've been reading up on the forums, trying to figure out the best option to root my Inspire 4G and making sure there is a proven unroot method.
I guess my biggest question is whether I should root now or wait for the official Gingerbread update to come out and root then?? Any input about this question would be greatly appreciated along with suggestions to BEST root/unroot options to keep the phone as close to stock as possible yet have the ability to get rid of these bloated programs.
Anyway, love the site!

We really have no idea if/when AT&T will even release Gingerbread for this phone, so if you might have to root just to get it and install one of the Desire HD releases.
Rooting is not all that hard, the key is making the goldcard correctly. After that you can either do attn1's hack kit or Bubby's gui based method. After that install one of the stock rooted ROMS from the dev section.

cab121783 said:
Hey all,
I've been reading up on the forums, trying to figure out the best option to root my Inspire 4G and making sure there is a proven unroot method.
I guess my biggest question is whether I should root now or wait for the official Gingerbread update to come out and root then?? Any input about this question would be greatly appreciated along with suggestions to BEST root/unroot options to keep the phone as close to stock as possible yet have the ability to get rid of these bloated programs.
Anyway, love the site!
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I guess there are questions as to what your actual goal is. Do you need to install non-market applications, do you need to really remove the stock AT&T additions? I am not sure I would call the AT&T additions bloated, they serve a purpose in a way most people would rather have served by other programs and therefore bloat the ROM but they are fairly well behaved and aren't that big.
If you check the development section there are rooted stock ROMs available. This will keep everything very close to the original HTC ROM with much of the AT&T extras removed. The rooting process is fairly straight forward if not a bit painful at times, with the hardest part being the process of finding an SD card that will work as a Gold Card. I rooted my phone as I needed some non-market applications from my company that can not be side loaded properly as part of their installation requires accepting a system change and they will not work without this confirmation.
As to Gingerbread coming to this phone, if the amount of time it took the Aria to get Froyo updates is any indication, don't wait for the official release. AT&T drags its feet on updates to phones after they get potential updates from the vendors. This is because they claim to be doing heavy testing internally to make sure the update process is smooth. Not sure I buy that but it does take a long time between versions, so if you are eager for some change on your phone root it now because your wait for an AT&T release will be long.

Basically, I want to keep the door open to do any customization I want as I learn what this OS and phone is capable of.
I'm an avid tinkerer with PCs and the Windows OS and I enjoy not being restricted to one set way to do things. However, I like the setup this phone has originally. I just don't like apps such ad AT&T Familymap, Navigator, Code Scanner, the asphalt game, and the worthless blockbuster app. They are the devil.
Seriously though, I'm all about custom goodies. But I also need a proven way if the phone goes haywire or gets damaged that I can restore to factory and send it in since I have insurance on the Inspire.
Hope this helps fill in the blanks as far as questions to how I'm going to use it. Appreciate the answers so far so please keep them coming!

Oh and I read some rumor that gingerbread was coming in May or June. Good point though on carriers dragging their feet. More than likely going to root now.

Rooting is probably going to be the same no matter what so you may as well do it. As for gingerbread you can get that now with CM7 RC2 is pretty good. If you font mind no htc sense its great and getting better. You can always try it and then change.
Sent from my Inspire "4G" using Tapatalk Pro.

Regarding your questions about going back to stock after obtaining root/s-off, it is a very simple process. As for rooting, the hack kit has a very detailed set of instructions.
After reading what you are looking to do, I would suggest moving to one of the rooted stock roms and playing with that. Then flash one of the gingerbread roms whenever you want to check them out. Of course, do a nandroid to save time going back to your previous setup.

You want to go ahead and root dont wait for at&t
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA Premium App

I rooted my phone with bubby's rooting program and have downloaded Core Droid Gingerbread version 4 and it is working great, the extra effects that they have added make it all that much more fun to have. I would not wait for AT&T at all.

Waiting for AT&T is like going through a White Castles drive-thru. You only do it if you have a great deal of time to waste.
Sent from Desire HD or Inspire 4G or whatever this thing is called via premium XDA app.

New to HTC One X Android platform, former iphone user

Hey guys i decided to switch to the HTC One X after having an iPhone for about 4 years! and man i absolutely love it, theres so much to do with it its almost over whelming. Im here asking any good tips and tricks about android and the one x itself i could expand knowledge about. what awesome apps are there i should download and tweaks to make on my phone, thanks much appreciated!

These 2 threads would be a good start if you want the full potential out of the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644167
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672284

What is exactly do those mean to be rooted and what can I do
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app

I don't want this to come off harsh but try this.
http://bit.ly/IHZCgj
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Reply
I just made the switch from an iPhone too a couple weeks ago. Took about a couple days to get used to the HTC One X, but it definitely is a great example of a top of the line Android Phone.
Just to help you along, ROOTING is like jailbreaking the Android so you can install custom ROMS on it. So instead of installing all the cydia packages (I'm hoping that you actually jailbroke your iphone before), you can install entirely new modified versions of the OS that may usually make the phone better than the stock OS that HTC provided.
The forum section under ATT HTC ONE X ANDROID DEVELOPMENT is probably going to be your best bet. I can't post link right now, but look at the HTC ONE X Resource Compilation rollup at the top, really helpful. You should also look up a couple of the One-click root guides to root your phone, then install a recovery mod. The recovery mod allows you to BACKUP your ENTIRE phone, which is actually really useful, so as long as you can access the recovery mode, you can restore any mistakes you made on your phone, or if you want to try out new ROMS without losing your original system.
Hopefully that'll get you started in the right direction.

You'll love aokp instead of sense, I personally loved sense because I had never tried vanilla android but you can't go back after removing sense. After rooting and unlocking, aokp is the way to go.

wongSlam said:
Just to help you along, ROOTING is like jailbreaking the Android so you can install custom ROMS on it.
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Not exactly. Rooting just gives you access permissions to the otherwise protected system files. You need root and bootloader unlock in order to flash custom ROMs. With root alone, you can do some mods and use some apps that require root, but not flash ROMs.

phatedd said:
Hey guys i decided to switch to the HTC One X after having an iPhone for about 4 years! and man i absolutely love it, theres so much to do with it its almost over whelming. Im here asking any good tips and tricks about android and the one x itself i could expand knowledge about. what awesome apps are there i should download and tweaks to make on my phone, thanks much appreciated!
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Were you jailbroken on your iPhone(s)? If so, you find things pretty easy to pick up. If not, take it slow. This is a dev site with access to some tools that can screw up your phone if you're not careful. If all you want are market apps and tweaks, this is not the place for you.
If you're looking to make significant changes in your phone's software, you should start by doing a lot of reading in the development thread. There are also plenty of "What is Rooting and What Can I Do With It" blog posts out there in Google-land.
One thing I can tell you as an experienced iOS jailbreaker, jailbreaking and rooting/unlocking share some elements but there are also some important diferences. With jailbreaking, you do it once and then you're good until Apple releases a new update to iOS. Modding/tweaking is generally just a matter of downloading stuff from Cydia. It's definitely a lot more idiot-proof than the Android environment.
Modding an Android phone can involve making some much deeper changes in the software than is typically possible with jailbroken iOS (unless you're a dev). There is really no iOS analog to custom ROMs on Android. These phones are tough to hard brick, but you can easily render your phone inoperative without some heavy help to fix it.
Bottom line: read up before you start doing anything, don't make any changes unless you understand what you're changing, and don't do anything you don't know how to undo.

redpoint73 said:
Not exactly. Rooting just gives you access permissions to the otherwise protected system files. You need root and bootloader unlock in order to flash custom ROMs. With root alone, you can do some mods and use some apps that require root, but not flash ROMs.
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Ah thanks for the correction! I did both at the same time so it just logged into my brain as rooting. While we're talking about switching from iPhones, I read that several android apps have the same functionality as BiteSMS. I loved the ability to send texts from your lockscreen, is there a specific messaging app that allows you to do that on an Android? GoSMS or Chomp or something?

atticusmas said:
You'll love aokp instead of sense, I personally loved sense because I had never tried vanilla android but you can't go back after removing sense. After rooting and unlocking, aokp is the way to go.
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AOKP is the way to go if you want to experience stock Android, but for your phone to remain fully functional stick to a Sense based ROM like CleanROM 4.1 SE.
AOKP still has the silly multitouch bug so games will suck and its using the terrible AOSP camera because the Sense camera wont ever work in AOKP without the proper sense frameworks and ImageSense drivers.
If you don't play games and dont care about the camera, then AOKP is a great alternative to Sense.
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redpoint73 said:
Not exactly. Rooting just gives you access permissions to the otherwise protected system files. You need root and bootloader unlock in order to flash custom ROMs. With root alone, you can do some mods and use some apps that require root, but not flash ROMs.
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In addition to the Rooting & Bootloader unlock you should also flash a custom recovery package like TWRP to handle all the modding you're bound to do now.

Downgrade HTC Sense to Sense 2.3

Hi all,
I recently updated my 'unrooted' HTC Desire S from HTC Sense 2.3 to Sense 3.0. Ever since then the phone has been acting up and become slower in general. Is there any way to downgrade the phone back to Sense 2.3 without rooting as I am really skeptical about it, and please nobody say "oh it's fine it's safe" because nothing anyone, or anything, can say to persuade me. (No disrespect)
I have been to countless shopfronts that might have the slightest thing to do with mobile phones and on many occasions I have gotten the answer people have successfully done this in the past. I, and many other people as I have seen from other forums really want to downgrade without rooting.
If anyone can give me an answer, any help, or even a point in the right direction that would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Ronald

It might be worth waiting for sence 4.0 as it surpose to be a lighter version of sence so should run better. Im on 3.0 too and find it a bit sluggish at times but there should be an update soon.

Hi Ronald,
it is possible with a temporary root, that is not modifying your device. Look for a downgrade guide in the index.
You need zegrush exploit to gain temp root in order to change the main version (to "trick" the device that you are updating it while actually downgrading), then use the oldest RUU available for your brand/region. This process will leave no trace that the device was ever manipulated. Keep in mind that this process will also delete all your data and installed apps.
Good luck
Sent from my HTC Desire S

Take ammibudha's advice. Your phone will be just like from the box, like 1 year or so ago, when you bought it. Don't be affraid, you still will be able to receive OTA.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app

Were the weather sounds only.introduced in 3.0?

scorpionatthepc said:
Were the weather sounds only.introduced in 3.0?
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It was more than an year ago when I got the device (it was my first Android) but I remember that I was impressed by the weather animations and I think that the sound was present too. But I am not completely sure about this.
EDIT: check this

Uhmm, i think they didn't.
If I remember correctly, i had to disable weather sounds in weather app with the very original ROM. It was like 1 year ago, when i bought my phone. Weather widget was making that funny weather soudns.
But im unsure about clock with weather.

I found that sense 2.1 had smoother scrolling between home screens because it didn't have that stupid 3d carousel effect. I also found that the weather sounds were better quality than sense 3.0 ones. the update to 2.3.5 improved the smoothness and scrolling within apps. I found that everything apart from the scrolling between home screens is smoother on sense 3 I still don't think it's worth going back to sense 2.1 though

+1
Don't like that stupid rotating cube effect.

I build software for downgrad Sense and HBOOT.
I need 10 posts for publish...

Thanks for the advice
scorpionatthepc said:
It might be worth waiting for sence 4.0 as it surpose to be a lighter version of sence so should run better. Im on 3.0 too and find it a bit sluggish at times but there should be an update soon.
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Hi, thanks for the advice but I'm pretty sure that htc have stopped releasing updates for the desire s aside from some minor bug fixes but not OS changes. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks again,
Ronald

Temporary Root
amidabuddha said:
Hi Ronald,
it is possible with a temporary root, that is not modifying your device. Look for a downgrade guide in the index.
You need zegrush exploit to gain temp root in order to change the main version (to "trick" the device that you are updating it while actually downgrading), then use the oldest RUU available for your brand/region. This process will leave no trace that the device was ever manipulated. Keep in mind that this process will also delete all your data and installed apps.
Good luck
Sent from my HTC Desire S
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Thank you so much for such a quick reply. If possible could you please send me a guide to this temporary root. Also could you tell me what differences this root has from the conventional root and does it have any devastating risks like normal rooting such as bricking one's phone, because if that's the case I would have to consider paying $100 or so for a 3rd party phone repair specialist to do the job, that way if anything goes wrong their liable and not some guy that failed to root his phone [me].
Regards
Ronald

The major difference between this root and conventional is that this one is temporary. Once you've rebooted, you're no longer rooted. You could easyly do it yourself, check the INDEX and search for "downgrade hboot without using htcdev unlock". Considering your mainversion (2.10 or higher) you should use zergrush for 2.10.xxx or tacoroot if > 2.10.xxx.

RonaldLeeLongTing said:
Hi, thanks for the advice but I'm pretty sure that htc have stopped releasing updates for the desire s aside from some minor bug fixes but not OS changes. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks again,
Ronald
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Theres suppose to be an ICS update this month which includes the new lighter version of htc sence.

custom roms are the best
using blindbean, waiting for bluetooth to get going

Regular User on Rooting Your S3

Two weeks into my new phone and loving it, but now on to some important questions. Some may have been answered before but not all on the same thread. So I'm here to ask. Please don't flame as a nooby to the SG3 scene and rooting THIS phone. Want to keep things simple and all functions WORKING most importantly
1. Should the standard phone guy. by that I mean not wifi tethering etc feel the need to Root his/her phone. Only real win win situation I see as of now is being able to delete bloat ware. But is it worth that on the S3?
2. If you root the phone I'm assuming you may lose some of it's motion controls. Camera features. Jelly Bean is nice but it's coming. Wait and get the real deal or root and take your chances? I just think personally the early gain doesn't quite outweigh the chances of losing something important.
3.On another point roms do add more functionality in areas that some don't. The reason I'm here posting this in the first place is because of paranoid android rom. The option to go hybrid tablet/phone is simply awesome especially on this phone would be reason enough to try it out. Question being I seen VZW EZ Unlocker (Recovery app as well). Which is great but you still have to root your phone correct?
4. Also If I decide to unroot my phone and go back to completely stock is this a SIMPLE viable solution on the VZW sg3? I have rooted my droid and thunderbolt in the past but really wasn't pleased with rom options at all on the thunderbolt. More issues then anything else.
5. Now I have a shiny pretty slim s3 and i'm wanting to make it the best thing possible but not trying to deal with any types of issues. Want it to work flawlessly..(no wifi connection issues/data/signal/force closes.

loopers said:
Two weeks into my new phone and loving it, but now on to some important questions. Some may have been answered before but not all on the same thread. So I'm here to ask. Please don't flame as a nooby to the SG3 scene and rooting THIS phone. Want to keep things simple and all functions WORKING most importantly
1. Should the standard phone guy. by that I mean not wifi tethering etc feel the need to Root his/her phone. Only real win win situation I see as of now is being able to delete bloat ware. But is it worth that on the S3?
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If your phone works exactly how you want stock, there's absolutely no reason to mess with a good thing. It's only worth it if you like dealing with any potential issues that accompany rooting/flashing, etc. I rooted my GSIII and just added a few apps (Recovery as well). I don't have a need for anything else.
loopers said:
2. If you root the phone I'm assuming you may lose some of it's motion controls. Camera features. Jelly Bean is nice but it's coming. Wait and get the real deal or root and take your chances? I just think personally the early gain doesn't quite outweigh the chances of losing something important.
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You are confusing "rooting" with "flashing." If you simply just root the GSIII, you're still on stock Touchwiz but now you have root access so you CAN modify system files if you want. If you just root, everything you had set up will be exactly the same and working just the same. If you flash a rom/kernel/mod, this is when you may or may not lose features. You know the risks going in with everything you flash so this is a personal choice. Not everyone is comfortable with losing features of a device they purchased.
loopers said:
3.On another point roms do add more functionality in areas that some don't. The reason I'm here posting this in the first place is because of paranoid android rom. The option to go hybrid tablet/phone is simply awesome especially on this phone would be reason enough to try it out. Question being I seen VZW EZ Unlocker (Recovery app as well). Which is great but you still have to root your phone correct?
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Correct, you root the phone to have root access like I described above then you can unlock the bootloader if you desire. Either use EZ Unlock app or use AdamOutler's Casual tool to unlock your device, again each step is your choice. You accept the consequences.
loopers said:
4. Also If I decide to unroot my phone and go back to completely stock is this a SIMPLE viable solution on the VZW sg3? I have rooted my droid and thunderbolt in the past but really wasn't pleased with rom options at all on the thunderbolt. More issues then anything else.
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Yes, there are a few guides/methods to unroot. I am posting this comment using my phone so I can't provide a direct link. Go into the Development Section of this forum and check out DroidStyle's guide. I believe Section 6 of that guide has the steps to unroot. It truly is a helpful and easy to follow guide that I suggest you bookmark.
loopers said:
5. Now I have a shiny pretty slim s3 and i'm wanting to make it the best thing possible but not trying to deal with any types of issues. Want it to work flawlessly..(no wifi connection issues/data/signal/force closes.
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The choice is yours my friend. Like I posted earlier, I rooted just for a few apps (titanium Backup, Adfree for example) and I wanted to do so while there were still exploits working before I received any OTA. Lastly, if you root I suggest you immediately backup your IMEI. If you don't know what this is, there are a couple threads that you should read in the development section that describe in detail what you need to do, why you need to do this, and anything else.
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loopers said:
2. If you root the phone I'm assuming you may lose some of it's motion controls. Camera features. Jelly Bean is nice but it's coming. Wait and get the real deal or root and take your chances? I just think personally the early gain doesn't quite outweigh the chances of losing something important.
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if you run a touchwiz rom (like synergy) i believe you will maintain the nice features like s-beam and motion controls. also because you can run a new kernel i've found that i am getting a few more hours of battery life and more smoothness running the Rom.
being able to use Google Wallet and AdFree are just added perks!

pyunny said:
if you run a touchwiz rom (like synergy) i believe you will maintain the nice features like s-beam and motion controls. also because you can run a new kernel i've found that i am getting a few more hours of battery life and more smoothness running the Rom.
being able to use Google Wallet and AdFree are just added perks!
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running synergy and i can confirm that i still am able to use direct call and smart alert.

I like you found nothing wrong with the phone other than a lot of bloatware but I want the ability to change anything and everything just because even if they work fine. And rooting this device is so much easier than any device I've ever had there was no point not to.
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