Hey, im new here, and I would like to ask about few things. I own a Nokia N900 phone, and i was curious if THIS could be installed on it, without actual android on it ( i can get android 2.3.3, because of the nitdroid port, but i would like to avoid installing it in android). As far as i know, X10 and N900 have both same cpu architecture (Armel), so this should do. So my main question is: Will this run on maemo5, or i need to get meego/android? When i have about 3-4hours of free time ill test it and post results.
P.s. I know its not maemo forum, but still, there should be maemo section here, or at least maemo+meego in one : ).
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Hello,
I been around for some while on this website and tried one and other with my phones, now I have a very complex question bcuz I dont know the ins and outs some of ya`ll might think its silly but please respond with serious feedback as I am very exited about it.
My questions:
Is it possible to install a (example) Iphone Os on a (example) HTC Dream? or other phones/ Os (you get the point)
Where do I need to start, to design and OS? Is that even possible for one person to do?
I have no degrees in making/installing/playing with software.
All I do is in my freetime as a hobby. But I spend about 4 hours a day minimum playing around with my phone and reading the internet about possibilities.
Thank you for your feedback in forward!
Greetz
Dizzy
dizzydix said:
Hello,
I been around for some while on this website and tried one and other with my phones, now I have a very complex question bcuz I dont know the ins and outs some of ya`ll might think its silly but please respond with serious feedback as I am very exited about it.
My questions:
Is it possible to install a (example) Iphone Os on a (example) HTC Dream? or other phones/ Os (you get the point)
Where do I need to start, to design and OS? Is that even possible for one person to do?
I have no degrees in making/installing/playing with software.
All I do is in my freetime as a hobby. But I spend about 4 hours a day minimum playing around with my phone and reading the internet about possibilities.
Thank you for your feedback in forward!
Greetz
Dizzy
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hi dizzydix,
so you want to design your own OS? Have Fun! (and a few years of time)
Is that even possible for one person to do
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no, i don't think so!
and now to your original question, whether it's possible to install another OS on your device:
The OS have to be on the mainor partition of your device and is isntalled as your firmware, every device with own OS has it's own drivers that way, so NO it's not possible so far to install another one, MAYBE in a while there can be some ports for some devices, but not now
the_boogyman
"Is it possible to install a (example) Iphone Os on a (example) HTC Dream? "
no not unless you had enough skillz with a hex editor you could put all the correct hw drivers into the iphone image and after that make it into an image which would
be compatible with the wm device
would take as much time as making your own os which would be years even if
you were a good software developer
Rudegar said:
no not unless you had enough skillz with a hex editor you could put all the correct hw drivers into the iphone image and after that make it into an image which would
be compatible with the wm device
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Very, very big mistake... You never programming anything in hex editor!!! No matter is PDA prog or PC prog. Nobody on that world is programing in hex editor. Who plays (at least) with bulding software knows that thing is possible in programming languages. You could only apply patch, crack an so on in a hex editor, but even then you do it based on hex code cpu instructions...
Regarding what dizzydix says I think there is another point of view of the problem. Generally speaking, no manufacturer makes special pieces of hardware for one type of phone (or smartphone).
So, if there is a puzzle of hardware pieces who has hw drivers already developed in another phones why it can't be put togheter in a different one?
More clear... HTC Magic has Android OS. Could it be ported to WM?
This ideea came into my mind right now
Why not??? HW specifications does'n reveals anything special. It seems that HW chips are not different from other WM mobiles...
So what is the solution? Cook a version of WM who contains hw drivers already builded for that chips... You don't need to 'hex editing' drivers but just to adapt existing drivers to your phone.
OK, there are more problems regarding organizing memory...and so on...
You get the ideea...
The problem is very, very complex but not impossible. It's up to your brain!
On Mio A701 a group of smart guys tried to install Linux on it (it cames with WM5.5) based on HTC universal drivers!
Hi
Wow thanx guys,
Its starting to get clear.
MoshPuiu thank you for you clear answer, this is what I have been looking for.
Real nice, explination.
I like the thought: Complex, but not impossible!
Anyways, I was coming across this tought when people tried to port Iphone os to a Hero. Read it somewhere on the net.
So then I tought, maybe I can buy me a remake of an Iphone and then put android on it. (I like the look of the iphone, but the interface sucks..way too boring if you compare Android and WM.
Nevertheless, I like playing around with interfaces, but an OS is a whole other level I understand. I while leave that on the shelf.
Ok so have a good day bye guys!
Dizzy
Good Luck and let us know your progress!
Good afternoon, this is my first post here, so i'll introduce myself a little.
I'm Johan, I live in The Netherlands, and i have a "MDA II, a T-Mobile branded HTC Himalaya" and a "MDA Compact, a T-Mobile branded HTC Magician".
I'm doing a study informatica, and i'm planning to choose as minor for software engineer or game development.
Currently for a schoolproject we have to write an application for an android mobile phone. Both my phones aren't for android and afcourse i've searched the forums as good as i could but so far no luck.
I'm looking for someone with some background knowledge of Android and who could point me in the right direction on what i should do to make a custom ROM for 1 of my telephones, i read that for the compact there are some linux tryouts so i think the base is there already it just needs to be explored a little further.
Hope that someone can help me out,
Thanks
Johan
Hi Johan, welcome to XDA
Unfortunatly i do not beleive that either of your devices will run android, however, part of the Android DTK is an emulator. That should work for you?
Good luck
Hi Badwolve,
Thanks for youre reply, I am aware of the emulator in the android SDK, but its really really slow... (CPU runs up to 100% really soon even with just an empty project running and RAM is 400MB wich is quit a lot) and then you have to count the RAM usage of netbeans to etc.(laptop kinda protests against this abuse )
So if i could beat that crappy emulator part and run it (maybe just as slow, but hey) on my telephone that would be awesome.
Also i did read that for the magician there are several versions of linux, so there is some sort of progress, but i have no idea if someone is still working on that, or if anyone could point me in the direction where they left off.
(i had the idea atleast that android was somewhere based upon linux, and that the java was somewhat based upon sun's java idea (lol @ did you guys know there isn't "JAV"A ... there is just some layout of how java should look like and then you can makeup youre own ideas)
i'll have a look for you, but i'm quite busy at the mo
will post if i find anything
http wiki xda-developers com/index.php?pagename=Android_devices shows that the apache http pdadb net/index.php?m=specs&id=705&c=verizon_xv6700_htc_apache runs android.
I think the specs aren't much different from the magician (cpu/ram/rom) http pdadb net/index.php?m=specs&id=133&view=1&c=t-mobile_mda_compact_htc_magician
The himalaya has a bit less CPU but the RAM capacity is higher, so i guess if the specs from 1 phone is good enough to run android, phones with simmilar specs should work to.
Or is that just to simplistic?
I'd really love to hear where i should look to figure out howto start experimenting. I meen, i'm googling everywhere, but i have no idea what searchterms i should use to get in the right direction, the only thing i keep getting in my face all the time "its impossible blablabla" but then again, look at the specs of the cpu/ram ... and look at the "its impossible to run win mobile 5.0" while there is 6.5 available for them.
Its just a point that someone actually has to start working on it, and hope that others follow. If someone points me in the right way, i'll be the starter and hope that i get backup when i get stuck somewhere.
(can't add :// or . in links :S keep getting some weird notification ... copy'd the links from the wiki, so they can't be to bad )
http www talkandroid com/android-forums/android-hardware/2-android-minimum-hardware-requirements.html Minimum requirements for android in 2008 .... wonder if those specs are still the same.
Unfortunatly, just because the specs are simaler, it doesn't mean it will work, different mainboard, ram type and rom type.
if you got a diamond or newer (but not HD2), you could use haret
i recp,emd the TP2 or Topaz (Diamond 2), these run Android very well
Hi fellow members of XDA!
This is a question I putting to the community (hope to receive more answers than my previous question.
I've been browsing around the web for the last few day in search of way to make my own tablet pc. I think I found some interesting things to get me going and I do have an old laptop that I think I could easily use for my adventure. And so, now that the Hardware part is (in theory) solved I've reach another problem. The OS part. I know android is open source, that most likely I would easily put linux running on the machine, but somehow I want to make it windows mobile capable. Call it a whim if you want.
After reading some stuff around this forum about rom cooking (and I'm no programmer) I have more questions than answers.
So my big question is: If a XDA Rom Cook had access to the device specs, could it build a windows mobile rom for that same device? What specs would he/her need?
Another idea of mine is: I have an old blue angel and a prophet stopped at home. Could I salvage parts from them to the tablet pc?
And here is another question: Where can I get the touch screens, casings and other tablet pc components? Does anyone here knows?
Thanks for reading. I'll start on this project soon and let you know how it goes.
Cheers
I've been searching for this answer but unless I'm using the wrong keywords or maybe the info I need is buried on page 30 I can't seem to find.
Does anyone know if any dev has been able to or has ported "windows phone 7" OS of any version over to the Thunderbolt?
I've asked in a few other areas but got flamed for wanting to overwrite Android so I gave up in the Thunderbolt forums.
If it has been done all I'm asking for is the url, of course I have no problem reading the info.
It wont happen.. It is far to difficult to port at Binary based closed source OS to different hardware.. The windows mobile 6.5 HTC HD2 was an exception as it has the same cpu and gpu etc as most the WP7 devices so was more of a hack than a port..
shame but thats how it is
Thanks for the answer. Was searching Google and getting crazy stuff. Not really wanting to switch to Nokia or T-Mobile. For me having 7 or Mango version would make my business sync issues so much easier. Again Thanks Much.
Hi,
I am due to purchase new smartphone and interested in Maru OS. Most probably I am looking at devices from Xiaomi, Innjoo or Oppo (due to spec-to-cost ratio) depending how much friendly it is for porting Maru OS.
1) Can anyone advise which will be the best device for this purpose? I understand major problem will come due to non-availability / locked bootlooders, drivers and working kernel.
2) Also, I am not experienced in mobile development and not a pro/full-time programmer (but can learn as I have been using Gentoo and Arch Linux, plus studied programming during school days), if anyone experienced can help me in getting started, it will be a good start for me.
Thank you.
EDIT:
Marked 'Useless' ... thanks to everyone for not responding.
^bump
If no one is interested in responding to OP, can anyone point me to how to extract device drivers from stock ROM for use with custom ROM I intend to compile? [I mean use working ROM as a base then customize it for Maru OS adoption].