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So, will the captivate have HSUPA?? It says on the main page here on XDA, in the specs breakdown, next to HSUPA it says, NOT IN US.
I could have swore i read that it WILL have it?
I have an iphone 4, and have become accustomed to the crazy fast upload now, but i wanted to pick up the captivate to tinker with an android phone.
Everything I have read so far has said it is supported, but now that you mention it, what would be the difference, a certain frequency band I guess? Nothing I have read over thus far has said anything about a difference between countries (i.e. US and rest of world)...
aphexacid said:
So, will the captivate have HSUPA?? It says on the main page here on XDA, in the specs breakdown, next to HSUPA it says, NOT IN US.
I could have swore i read that it WILL have it?
I have an iphone 4, and have become accustomed to the crazy fast upload now, but i wanted to pick up the captivate to tinker with an android phone.
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Not sure if this is fast enough for you but unless AT&T massacred the radio in the Captivate you should experience speeds like.... http://twitpic.com/24a5ri
That's my Galaxy S in Orlando running solely off 1900MHz 3G.
FWIW, this indicates HSUPA is supported, but I'd consider this a preliminary spec that needs to be confirmed after the Captivate is released and tested.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2430&view=1&c=samsung_sgh-i897_galaxy_s_captivate_
Sweet, very nice.
Seriously, once you have HSUPA, you cant go back. Its like going back to edge.
I still think i'm going to hold out about a week or so after the device launches just to make sure of a few things that i need to have.
thanks fellas!
Can we bring this back for discussion again?
From what I understand, when you are on HSUPA you will get an H in the status bar instead of 3G. Is anyone seeing this? So far I haven't seen this and speedtests have agreed that I haven't had HSUPA. I had an iphone 4 before and I know it was on HSUPA in the same area.
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Can we bring this back for discussion again?
From what I understand, when you are on HSUPA you will get an H in the status bar instead of 3G. Is anyone seeing this? So far I haven't seen this and speedtests have agreed that I haven't had HSUPA. I had an iphone 4 before and I know it was on HSUPA in the same area.
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Yes. If you look at my picture posted here http://twitpic.com/24a5ri you will see the 'H' you are asking about in the statusbar.
My phone says I'm on HSDPA but I only have the 3G icon on my screen. Do you only get the "H" when you have the high-speed upload? Seems a bit counter intuitive to me.
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My phone says I'm on HSDPA but I only have the 3G icon on my screen. Do you only get the "H" when you have the high-speed upload? Seems a bit counter intuitive to me.
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I've read somewhere awhile back that it fluctuates from showing 3G to HSDPA when it's active on data transfer and hits/detects the higher speed...don't hold me to that though. Maybe someone else can offer more insight into it but i've actively seen the icon switch from 3G to H with not interaction by me (background data i assume)
Well that's weird. I'll have to play with it more tomorrow and see if I can figure out why mine won't jump on HSUPA.
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Okay, so at my house, where I know I got HSUPA on the iPhone 4, I'm definitely not getting it now on the Captivate. I have a signal strength of -51 dB, so I know I have enough signal. I couldn't get much higher signal if I sat under the tower. I'm wondering if I have a problem on my phone since trinikartel got HSUPA just fine.
I'm new to Android, anyone know something to check for this?
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Okay, so at my house, where I know I got HSUPA on the iPhone 4, I'm definitely not getting it now on the Captivate. I have a signal strength of -51 dB, so I know I have enough signal. I couldn't get much higher signal if I sat under the tower. I'm wondering if I have a problem on my phone since trinikartel got HSUPA just fine.
I'm new to Android, anyone know something to check for this?
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Well trinikartel said he was on a Galaxy S, not a Captivate. I'm thinking the US versions dont have HSUPA. I have another thread on here stating that I got 2457 down and only 174 up this morning. Also, I've never seen my 3G turn to an H.
Also, I dont know if it matters but on my 3G icon the down arrow is orange and the up arrow is green.
I think you guys don't realize that AT&T's HSUPA is still broken. Don't you remember that whole upload fiasco? It affects the Captivate as it does the iPhone 4 and it hasn't been fixed in those markets (apparently most) where they use the Lucent equipment.
I used to get great HSUPA upload speeds on my AT&T banded N1 and the upload has not been fixed as uploads are still stuck at regular 3G < 300kbit speeds.
The Captivate undoubtedly supports HSUPA, but AT&T's network is still borked and as far as I can tell they have not rolled out any fix.
I have both the N1 and the Captivate.
The only other thing I can think of is if AT&T is turning off the HSUPA based on the phones IMEI or model number.
Just checked with an iPhone 4 friend, can not get over 200k -300l, so there is still a system wide HSUPA failure as far as my limited testing in my market is concerned.
Used to be 1.6mbit up quite regularly on the N1 or the iPhone4.
-James
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Well trinikartel said he was on a Galaxy S, not a Captivate. I'm thinking the US versions dont have HSUPA. I have another thread on here stating that I got 2457 down and only 174 up this morning. Also, I've never seen my 3G turn to an H.
Also, I dont know if it matters but on my 3G icon the down arrow is orange and the up arrow is green.
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Oh, I didn't see him say that. That sucks. I really hope the Captivate didn't get crippled, but right now, there's no other explanation than that. I SHOULD have HSUPA right now, and I don't.
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I think you guys don't realize that AT&T's HSUPA is still broken. Don't you remember that whole upload fiasco? It affects the Captivate as it does the iPhone 4 and it hasn't been fixed in those markets (apparently most) where they use the Lucent equipment.
I used to get great HSUPA upload speeds on my AT&T banded N1 and the upload has not been fixed as uploads are still stuck at regular 3G < 300kbit speeds.
The Captivate undoubtedly supports HSUPA, but AT&T's network is still borked and as far as I can tell they have not rolled out any fix.
I have both the N1 and the Captivate.
The only other thing I can think of is if AT&T is turning off the HSUPA based on the phones IMEI or model number.
Just checked with an iPhone 4 friend, can not get over 200k -300l, so there is still a system wide HSUPA failure as far as my limited testing in my market is concerned.
Used to be 1.6mbit up quite regularly on the N1 or the iPhone4.
-James
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I never had an issue where I live. While everyone else was going slow, I was still doing 1200-1300 Kbps.
Edit: Looks like there's a good chance the Captivate WAS crippled. There's absolutely no mention of HSUPA in the manual at all. This REALLY sucks. I may consider returning the phone because of this and leaving AT&T.
Its all 3g hsdpa/umts
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I've read somewhere awhile back that it fluctuates from showing 3G to HSDPA when it's active on data transfer and hits/detects the higher speed...don't hold me to that though. Maybe someone else can offer more insight into it but i've actively seen the icon switch from 3G to H with not interaction by me (background data i assume)
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AT&T devices do not show the H like the International versions, they use 3G icon only to avoid confusion apparently.
Well on AT&T's site it says the iphone 4 has umts/hsdpa. I'm pretty positive that it has hsupa. So I don't believe AT&T's site is an accurate source of information for their own products.
I just put my sim card back in my ATT Tilt2. It DOES show H in Dallas, TX. As it has since I bought it. Captivate shows 3g. There IS a speed difference.
I live in NYC and just ran a speed test. I'm getting 1.52 - 2mpbs down and .19mbps up. While my friend on his iphone 4 sitting right next to me is getting 3 mbps down and 1.8mbps up. This phone definitely slower. And when I tether the speeds go even slower. Is phone really crippled?
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I live in NYC and just ran a speed test. I'm getting 1.52 - 2mpbs down and .19mbps up. While my friend on his iphone 4 sitting right next to me is getting 3 mbps down and 1.8mbps up. This phone definitely slower. And when I tether the speeds go even slower. Is phone really crippled?
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I'm getting about the same right now (at night I can get 4M down). The thing is that I'm getting the same crappy upstream speeds with my Nexus One. Before the whole AT&T equipment ****-up in early July, I was getting ~1.5M up with my Nexus. Now I'm wondering if they crippled it for non-Apple devices.
I recently left Vodafone and moved to T-Mobile
So far, everything seems to be good, I haven't once seen my signal drop below 3G (probably due to the merge with Orange), and I usually have HSDPA 4 bars at home, work, in town, etc..
However, I've run the Speedtest app on my phone (Desire Z) and even my old HTC Hero, and they ALWAYS max out at 360kbps, no matter where I am, how many bars I have, what time it is
And I don't mean sometimes it's 100kbps, sometimes 200, sometimes 360, it's ALWAYS 350-360kbps
I think from what I've found on Google this is the maximum speed of 3G (even though I get HSDPA signal)?
Can anyone confirm this before I ring T-Mobile, and also if anything can be changed (or if T-Mobile just don't support HSDPA for phones, only 3G dongles)? I read somewhere that if you ring up and sound like you know what you're talking about they put you through to a proper tech who can enable HSDPA or something on the SIM card
Does this sound true, and has anyone tried it before I ring up?
Right. I called up, she didn't have a clue what I was talking about. She was aware that HSDPA was "a max speed of seven or something" but the fact I conveniently get 360kbps everywhere in the country, even with 4 bars HSDPA just happens to be the max speed I can get. I asked to speak to technical support, but she said they wouldn't be able to help me either, it was probably the phone. I told her I tried on my HTC Hero and got the same thing, yet with my Vodafone SIM I was getting around 1.8mbps
Anyway, I don't know what she's been messing about with on my account, but now a few minutes after getting 360kbps every time I checked, I'm getting between 28-84kbps every time I test it
Gonna have to send an email, hopefully they should pass it to tech support
I average 2Mbps on HSPA, and my max is 4.1Mbps, so definitely not capped.
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Right. I called up, she didn't have a clue what I was talking about. She was aware that HSDPA was "a max speed of seven or something" but the fact I conveniently get 360kbps everywhere in the country, even with 4 bars HSDPA just happens to be the max speed I can get. I asked to speak to technical support, but she said they wouldn't be able to help me either, it was probably the phone. I told her I tried on my HTC Hero and got the same thing, yet with my Vodafone SIM I was getting around 1.8mbps
Anyway, I don't know what she's been messing about with on my account, but now a few minutes after getting 360kbps every time I checked, I'm getting between 28-84kbps every time I test it
Gonna have to send an email, hopefully they should pass it to tech support
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Sometimes it's related to the phone's radio fw-for example in my G1 newer radios could get better speeds....But also faster speeds can be achieved by changing the data speeds in the rom's build.prop, my slide gets 3+ and G1 is normally 1-2MB+. It also depends on weather I guess and your distance from a tmobile tower.
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I average 2Mbps on HSPA, and my max is 4.1Mbps, so definitely not capped.
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Ace42 said:
Sometimes it's related to the phone's radio fw-for example in my G1 newer radios could get better speeds....But also faster speeds can be achieved by changing the data speeds in the rom's build.prop, my slide gets 3+ and G1 is normally 1-2MB+. It also depends on weather I guess and your distance from a tmobile tower.
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Yeah, the strange thing is I get 360kbps max no matter where I am, no matter what signal I have, no matter what the weather is like
Plus I don't think it's the radio as I get the same speeds in my Hero, and I get 1mbps+ with my Vodafone SIM in both phones
I've sent an email anyway, hopefully someone with an idea should read it
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Yeah, the strange thing is I get 360kbps max no matter where I am, no matter what signal I have, no matter what the weather is like
Plus I don't think it's the radio as I get the same speeds in my Hero, and I get 1mbps+ with my Vodafone SIM in both phones
I've sent an email anyway, hopefully someone with an idea should read it
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On either phone do you ever see the "H" icon or is it the 3G one?
H on both of them, 2 bars with Vodafone, 4 bars with T-Mobile
I get 4 bars H most of the time with T-Mobile
I dont know if the network is different over in England, but here In KC I avg 8mbs. Been as high as 10mbs (On MT4G.)
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I dont know if the network is different over in England, but here In KC I avg 8mbs. Been as high as 10mbs (On MT4G.)
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Is that 4G? I don't think we have that here yet
Anyway, I emailed T-Mobile so now I'm just waiting for a reply
Update
I never got a reply to my email, so I went into a T-Mobile store
After a few minutes explaining to the guy it definitely was capped, and the phone DID support HSDPA (yes, he did actually tell me it might only support 3G) he said he would add the Web'n'Walk Max (or whatever) to my account, so I would now get a 3GB limit, and I should get HSDPA speeds alo
I went outside, and a few minutes later ran a Speedtest
1.8mbps down
ok i havent seen a post for this so here we go..
if you use adw launcher and custom make an icon attached to the hidden menu apk you can access the test and servicing menus like other phones BUT... if you go into test settings for phone (play around its in there) there is a menu the shows hspda (3g, hspda+ being 4g) and many other functions that are advertised on the phone that are all listed as NOT IMPLIMENTED YET!!
so as far as i can tell 4g is NOT active on tmobile at all yet. not until the software is upgraded (gingerbread i am assuming). so it would make sense why the signal on the phone is screwed up and dropping (confused phone maybe?) and why im still getting 3g speeds (slightly faster maybe from better signal reception due to upgraded hardware from my previous Vibrant).
go take a look for yourself and let me know what you think. im sure you can use desktop visualizer to get to the menu to. DONT MESS WITH ANYTHING THOUGH. i had to reset my phone and not with a hard reset, but a recovery i found on a nvflash website. almost bricked it. so just look but don't touch anything important unless you know what your doing.
im looking forward to hearing what everything thinks of this and the giant list of other features also saying this in the same menu. because i feel mislead just a little bit.....
I think it's just that the functions in the hidden menu aren't implemented yet.
Hmmm, interesting find! Maybe this explains the problems I'm having maintaining a stable 2g only connection as well
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ok i havent seen a post for this so here we go..
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There's a reason for that...
so as far as i can tell 4g is NOT active on tmobile at all yet. not until the software is upgraded (gingerbread i am assuming)
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I've got a hot 4g connection where I am (west Texas), you don't get 4.9-5.6mb (Speedtest) download on 3g. Did you check the T-Mobile coverage map to see if you have it in your area yet?
Edit: you also may need a new sim card. Depending on the age of the card, you might not be able to get a stable lock on to 4g (age as in what generation it was produced.. not how long you've had it)
thats possible, but im getting 3g speeds still as far as i can tell and i don't see why it wouldnt be included in the "hidden menu" if it is working since we aren't "really" supposed to know about the hidden menu. anyways just something i noticed.
menu is Hidden Menu->modem settings is where the menu is at.
and i got a new sim card (tired 2 new ones both the same) and yes i am in salt lake city and it is a 4g area for tmobile. but seems like everyone (mostly) is getting signal drops all over the place. my 2g isn't working as consistantly as it did before on my vibrant either. im sure gingerbread will fix all of this though.
I'm getting 4-8mps down in Metro Atlanta. I say 4G speed is on.
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Hmmm, interesting find! Maybe this explains the problems I'm having maintaining a stable 2g only connection as well
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I'm having the same problem, and I've even got a 2G booster in my house. My 2G connection drops all the time on my G2X but not my Vibrant. When I look at the signal strength when it's up it's not much different than the Vibrant, -104dBm on the G2X vs -100 dBm on the Vibrant
Im at a consistent 6-9mb dl at my house with a 1mb+ ul. Im calling it 4g and have you tried your conn outside of your city to see if its just congestion on the network?
I'm also getting 4-8mbps speeds in Atlanta, 4g is definitely working.
I'm in vegas, every hour, I get only 10 or 20mn of 4g at 6Mb download speed, the rest of the time I'm on 2g. At night time,i get 4g most of the time. So I guess in the day time, they kick me back to 2g to save their bandwitch, I'm returning my phone to let them know this is not acceptable
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My phone SAYS 4G all the time in Charlotte NC but I have only been getting 1mb DL and about 1.5 upload. The weird thing is that browsing the web is lightening fast compared to the vibrant. I would say it loads pages twice as fast.
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My phone SAYS 4G all the time in Charlotte NC but I have only been getting 1mb DL and about 1.5 upload. The weird thing is that browsing the web is lightening fast compared to the vibrant. I would say it loads pages twice as fast.
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Not sure but this may have as much to do with the processor and RAM speed as the connection speed.
I get crap speeds compared to the Nexus S, and that phone doesn't support full hspa+
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I get crap speeds compared to the Nexus S, and that phone doesn't support full hspa+
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I am not complaining about my speeds which are plenty good IMO, averaging around 3-3.5 mbps. However, I have been surprised that they are no better than my Nexus One was that also didn't support HSPA+.
A few things, before we get too heavy handed on the FUD:
The phone is technically '4G' compatible, and it supports it out of the box.
Most of T-Mo's towers have been upgraded to support their 4G (HSPA+)
Regular HSPA caps out at about 3.5Mbps down. I've gotten as much as 7Mbps down on my G2x
Personally, I haven't had many issues with signal, but I live in Houston, so that may have something to do with it.
4g is on in Huntington Beach, and irvine.
I did notice its not a huge difference speed wise though. I had the moto cliq 3g and i would get 1mbs ish to 5mbs DL, and with the G2x im averaging about 3mbs to 7mbs. not a huge difference but the big change is Latency. I used to rock 700ms to 1000ms on 3g with my cliq, im getting around 55ms to 150ms on my G2x.
Latency is key for me though, i would prefer lower latency than higher download speeds. Due to the fact I need to vpn and voip with company network.
I found that t mobiles 3g network is still very capable in speed. the main issue i had was my cliq was underpowered to handle the t mobiles network. when i would tether my rooted nook color it would perform like a champ.
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I am not complaining about my speeds which are plenty good IMO, averaging around 3-3.5 mbps. However, I have been surprised that they are no better than my Nexus One was that also didn't support HSPA+.
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Where do you live? Is it possible T-Mo may not support HSPA+ in your area?
It's also important to note that even if the towers you're connected to support HSPA+, that's only one part of the process. They also have to upgrade the data connection to the tower itself (backhaul) to ensure it can handle the speeds. If you're connected to an HSPA+ tower that doesn't have the upgraded backhaul, that could explain slow speeds.
No.
HSPA+ ("4G") is on and working. You're just not in an HSPA+ area it seems.
We're all getting faster than HSPA speeds, so we are certainly on HSPA+. Speedtests are the best way for you to verify if you are on EDGE (2G), HSPA (3G), or HSPA+ (4G).
I would like a 3g icon just top know what type of tower I'm on, I think the baseband is wack, I bet when gingerbread comes out we will get the separate icons... Also my vibrant would get steady 5-6mb down 2mb up, but with this phone its anything but steady, I can get up to 8mb down but its crazy random, regular use is sometimes slow initializing, and someones websites timeout.... I think a baseband upgrade will fix all this stuff tho, or software upgrades.
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I would like a 3g icon just top know what type of tower I'm on, I think the baseband is wack, I bet when gingerbread comes out we will get the separate icons... Also my vibrant would get steady 5-6mb down 2mb up, but with this phone its anything but steady, I can get up to 8mb down but its crazy random, regular use is sometimes slow initializing, and someones websites timeout.... I think a baseband upgrade will fix all this stuff tho, or software upgrades.
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That's the thing though. The way T-Mo has their network setup, if you can get 3G from a tower, you should be able to get 4G. Period. You may not get 4G speeds, but you're technically connected to an HSPA+ tower, and thus the 4G icon. It'd be weird to connect a tower that supports HSPA at this point, but not HSPA+ (though I'm sure there are some out there)
Hey everyone, I was wondering what kind of speeds I should be getting here.
On the mobile network I get most of the time less than 2mbps, around 1.5-1.75, I ONCE got above 3mbps. That's download, upload is a dismal 1.2-1.5 mbps.
I thought maybe it was just where I was, bad cell tower, etc., but check this. My home wifi is reasonably fast, I get 12-16 mbps down on the computer with ~3mbps up. On my phone, connected to wifi, gets 4.5mbps down and just under 2mbps up. This shouldn't happen, should it? On my old mytouch slide, in the same room I'm in right now, I got 3-4mbps consistently over the mobile network (not even HSPA+, just plain old HSPA), and at LEAST 7 or 8 mbps over wifi, on the same wifi network. I'm very confused here, why is my HTC Sensation, which is supposed to be the latest and greatest, getting such terrible speeds? Do I have hardware issues? It's the same dismal speeds on every ROM I've tried. Stock before rooted, stock after rooted, arhd, cm7, everything is horrible. Should I call t-mobile and ask for a replacement? I just can't figure out why I'm getting slower speeds on HSPA+ than I was on 3G HSPA. Yikes.
Make sure your radio and RIL are correct (search the RIL and Radio threads) ... if you've tried different ROMs you may have over-written something.
I consistently get 16-20 MBPS down 10-15 MBPS up speeds on my home wifi (Verizion FIOS 25/25 service).
Get Wifi Analyzer from the market (free) and make sure you are not sharing WIFI channels with your neighbors.
Gunkk said:
Make sure your radio and RIL are correct (search the RIL and Radio threads) ... if you've tried different ROMs you may have over-written something.
I consistently get 16-20 MBPS down 10-15 MBPS up speeds on my home wifi (Verizion FIOS 25/25 service).
Get Wifi Analyzer from the market (free) and make sure you are not sharing WIFI channels with your neighbors.
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My baseband version in about phone reads 10.58.9035.00P_10.15.9035.02_2. I think the radio that they test CM7 with is 10.56.9035.00U_10.14.9035.01, so I suppose I COULD downgrade, but I was having the same issues even before I rooted. As for RIL's, I know what they are but I have never come across them. I don't know if they're built in or if I have to flash them or even where to find them.
I have noticed HORRIBLE wifi reception with this phone. I can never connect to the wifi at my school, and at home, I can hold the phone right next to the router and it will still be 3/4 bars of wifi. Right know I'm in the room right next to the router and it alternates between the little dot of the wifi icon and the 1st bar. My computer gets 5/5 bars. My cell reception has seemed to be normal though, haven't noticed any huge issues. In fact, it seems to hang onto 3G/HSPA better than my old phone did. My old phone constantly bumped down to edge in my house. Speeds suck on this phone though, and I can't figure out why.
I tried that app you suggested, didn't find any interference, but saw how stupidly low my signal strength was. Here's a SS, attached.
Bump,any ideas?
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The CM ROM is using the RIL for the radio mentioned in the OP.
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how stupidly low my signal strength was. Here's a SS, attached.
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Check the antenna contacts on the back of the phone; try bending them up to engage the pads in the cover.
Failing that, return the phone for replacement.
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I decided to do a test as I have been experiencing substantial drop in DL/UL speeds utilizing my personal favorite CM7.
Radios varied with CM7 reco through latest HTC radio. Stock & OC kernal. Observation.
Dozens of tests. 6+ DL 2.5 Mbps UL.
Wi-Fi- Avg expected speeds 31 Mbps DL 6.50 UL Mbps. ( Wifi signal was extremely erratic). No fix.
revert back to Sense 3.5 NRG rom with 169 RIl matching radio.
Stock kernal.
Dozens of tests. Avg 9.25 DL1.50 Mbp UL
Wi-fi- same as CM7 however signal is perfect.
FWIW- complete stock sense posed higher DL/UL. Odd but how much stock I put into this?
Benchmarks- with both Cm7 & sense OC kernals.
Both scored heavily using the most common benchmarks.
AnTuTu-6381
CF-7667
Quadrant-3810
Stock kernal- nothing to write home about.
Other then the data speed, in terms of user experience, difficult to say. Other than I was always plagued with accurate gps lock using CM7.
I'm all over the place regarding the breakdown but I don't have much patience right now.
Enjoy.
Typical WiFi performance for me at home (fastest is ~20 D 10 U). Router is at the other end of the house (blue on the graph). If you have strong signal, look at the software (radio + RIL), if signal is weak check antenna.
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So I guess I'll try the recommended radio. How do you check which RIL you have? I don't think its the radio though, since I had the same bad speeds on stock s-on before rooting. I'll try checking the antenna connectors in the casings. If I do have to do a warranty exchange, will I have to get the phone back to s-on to be under warranty?
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So I guess I'll try the recommended radio. How do you check which RIL you have? I don't think its the radio though, since I had the same bad speeds on stock s-on before rooting. I'll try checking the antenna connectors in the casings. If I do have to do a warranty exchange, will I have to get the phone back to s-on to be under warranty?
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Regarding RIL check- Run getprop gsm.version.ril-impl in Terminal Emulator (Download from market if you don't have). Takes 2 seconds to get RIL which will show 169, 173, etc...
Regarding exchange- I'm assuming you will have to revert back to S-on but I could very well be wrong, however I know for peace of mind, I would do this to ensure a complete hassle free exchange.
Wish I could assist more.
ahahaha.
i live in italy. I paid 19 € so about 25 $ for a bad connection of 7 mega in download and 0,45 mega in upload, but the real speed is 4/0,3
for curiosity how much do you pay in United states???
return to your phone, probabily you can to flash other radi.img
I am on a shared plan, but I think for just me, 4G data is $20/month, which guarantees 4G speeds up to 2GB of usage, then it starts throttling. I did check my usage, I'm under 1GB.
Checked my RIL against the RIL thread that's stickied in the dev forum, I have 2.2.1073HMQ, which is matched to the 10.58 radio that I currently have. So it can't be an RIL issue.
I also tested the speed of the data connection through a wifi hotspot on my computer. I still only got about 2 mbps on the computer, maybe 2.5, don't remember exactly. Definitely under 3 though, which is unacceptable. I think I'm going to call t-mobile, because I'm supposed to be in a 4G coverage area. But on top of that, my wifi speeds suck as well, which tells me it's not just network coverage, it's something to do with the wireless chipset, something isn't working correctly. I think I should be able to except AT LEAST equivalent speeds to my old 3G slide.
tonno16 said:
for curiosity how much do you pay in United states???
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Verizon FIOS @ $100/mo gets you 25/25 fiber to the house, phone, and a few hundred channels of hi def TV. Wireless router included gets up to 20 MBps to the phone.
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So I called t-mobile, the first guy said he thought I knew what I was talking about and had tried everything that he had ideas for, so he sent me to tier 2 support, and that guy told me that it was probably something faulty in either the back of the phone (antenna) or the radio controller. He thought my wifi and cell speed issues were related. Since I got the phone at costco he suggested I try to do an exchange through them since I'd get a new device in exchange instead of a refurbished one. I'm going to end up going that route.
So here's my question now, once I get the new replacement phone, since it's the same phone, is it possible to take a nandroid of my current phone how it is and then restore it after I root and get s-off? Or would that not work since the phones would have different serials and IMEI's? It would be so much easier if I could just nandroid restore after I s-off, root, and get clockwork.
Bump?
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MusicMan374 said:
Bump?
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There aren't that many people who would have done it.
So try it and report back!
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Gunkk said:
There aren't that many people who would have done it.
So try it and report back!
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Alright, I'll try it, no harm really, worst thing I can get is a bootloop I'll just make sure and back up my apps beforehand just in case it doesn't work. I'm going back on Friday to try and get a replacement, so I'll report back then.
alot of 3g networks i noticed cap at 1.75megs down and 1.50-1.75 up and since the sensation wont tell us if we have 3g or not and list 4g as anything above edge it's just kinda hit or miss when u actually do have 4G but from my house right now i'm getting 1.75 down and if i go to the others ide of town i get 9.xx down (rarely over 10 though sadly)
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alot of 3g networks i noticed cap at 1.75megs down and 1.50-1.75 up and since the sensation wont tell us if we have 3g or not and list 4g as anything above edge it's just kinda hit or miss when u actually do have 4G but from my house right now i'm getting 1.75 down and if i go to the others ide of town i get 9.xx down (rarely over 10 though sadly)
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My phone reports 2g, 3g and 4g. I can see the difference in data rate between the three.
The phone idles in "3g" even when near a 4g tower for power savings.
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Yeah, only sense roms don't differentiate between 3g and hspa. I've tried in different cell towers where I'm supposed to have full 4g, and I don't. I have maybe 2.5 mbps, most of the time 2 or below. I'm exchanging my phone Friday at Costco so hopefully the new one is different and I don't get one with the stupid ssharp screen. I like this Acer one better.
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Anyone have a Bell Sensation 4G? What data upload and download are you getting? I am getting 2.5 down and 3.0 up using the Bell radio 10.12.9007.21_M. Curently on CdTDroid's Pyramid3D v7.80XE. using the 2.34 recommended RIL. It does not match Bell's radio but I tried Bells RIL and it gave horrible data speed and reception.
I suppose I can;t flash anyone's radio as I have the 850, 1900 bands
It varies from time of day and location. I just did a test and I got about 10 megs down and 4 megs up. Thats the fastest Ive gotten so far.
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It varies from time of day and location. I just did a test and I got about 10 megs down and 4 megs up. Thats the fastest Ive gotten so far.
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I dont think the Bell Sensations are getting anywhere close to the speeds shown on the specs page. Looks like their network inst really 4G. I should have waited for LTE. then again I hope it isnt all hype and no show...
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I dont think the Bell Sensations are getting anywhere close to the speeds shown on the specs page. Looks like their network inst really 4G. I should have waited for LTE. then again I hope it isnt all hype and no show...
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This is the case with just about any phone and carrier. The rule is usually that you should be getting half the speed or close to it. So in the sensation's case if your getting half of 14.4 megs or close to that then thats normal. Have you tried other locations or also the same location (like your home) but at off peak hours. I usually get the highest speeds at home around 2am.