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Kogan Agora Tablet (TCC8803 based)

This is a continuation of the generic TCC8803 thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1119778
IMPORTANT - THERE IS A SYSTEM APP CALLED FWTOOL. DO NOT USE IT TO FLASH FIRMWARE OR YOU MAY END UP BRICKING YOUR TOUCHSCREEN. ALSO DO NOT FLASH ANY VERSION OF lk.rom OR YOU WILL BRICK YOUR TABLET.
To install clockworkmod
Download EM73-8K-recovery-signed.zip below. Rename it to update.zip and copy it to the root of your SD card.
With your tablet already turned off, press and hold down the Back button and then press the power on button while still holding down the Back button. This will open stock Recovery.
Use the buttons on the top of your tablet to navigate your way through recovery and to select menu items (menu = down, back = returns to previous menu, home = selects option).
Navigate to apply update.zip & follow the instructions. Reboot.
To use clockworkmod just press and hold down the Back button while powering up your tablet. Navigate the menu via the buttons (menu = down, back = returns to previous menu, home = selects option).
To make a Nandroid (clockworkmod) backup boot into clockworkmod recovery & navigate down to Backup then follow the instructions.
To root your tablet ** please see comment at end of post before continuing past this point
+++Make a full Nandroid (clockworkmod) backup before attempting this+++
Download & unzip Superoneclick from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682 - NB you may need to turn off any antivirus program on your PC to allow downloading & use of Superoneclick.
Download & unzip the relevant Drivers folder (32 or 64 bit) from link below then connect your (powered on) tablet to your PC & point Device Manager to your unzipped drivers folder when it is looking for drivers.
Make sure USB debugging is allowed on your tablet (Settings -> Development -> USB debugging)
Right-click on Superoneclick.exe, select Run as administrator then click on the Root button. It will take 2 or 3 minutes for your device to be rooted.
This procedure has worked for my own tablet but I accept no responsibility if you end up bricking your device!
Another way to root your tablet is at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1119778
To stop battery drain & prevent screen from waking every few minutes - **only for original Kogan ROM**
(with thanks to hallokitty for this fix)
This happens because the tablet keeps looking for the 3G signal it cannot ever receive. To fix this, go to System/app using Root Explorer from the Market, delete (or rename) phone.apk and TelephonyProvider.apk. You will immediately start getting errors but just use the reset button at the back of the tablet and when you reboot the problem has been solved. If you ever want to restore these apk's (e.g. if you want to use a 3G modem) just flash the phone+telephony zip file below using clockwork mod.
Clockworkmod rescue backups
I've done a factory reset & wipe of my tablet & made clockworkmod backups which I've linked to below. Make sure you do a full Nandroid backup before applying any of these. Unzip the file & place it in the appropriate Nandroid folder on your SD card (/clockworkmod/backup/), don't try to flash the zip file using CWM! These are a slightly slimmed down versions of the ROMs - for the Kogan ROM I've removed phone.apk, telephony.apk, Email, Facebook, Twitter, FW tool (dangerous to have), ES Explorer, Live Wallpapers and ES task manager. I've upgraded Spare Parts to Spare Parts + and added Astro File Manager as a user app. I had removed most of these things from my ROM before I was ever asked to make this backup so if you want to reinstall them you can get them from the Market or flash the relevant apk's into the system/app folder using CWM. The ROM is still rooted. You will need to do a factory reset & wipe the Data partition & Dalvik cache with CWM prior to doing this. If you want to use a 3G modem you will need to flash the "phone + telephony.zip" file listed below with clockworkmod.
Kogan firmware clockworkmod rescue backup: http://www.mediafire.com/?izfedrz97iowi34
**If you're really lazy you can combine rooting the tablet, removing unnecessary system apps & applying the screen wake fix by installing clockworkmod then restoring the rescue backup (NB make sure you make your own Nandroid backup first!!!).
CM7 runs extremely well on the Kogan except for HDMI out & Camera which don't work yet. You will also need to install Gmail & Youtube apps from the Market if you want them. Make sure you do a full CWM/Nandroid backup before trying this as I had problems with an unresponsive touchscreen after flashing the most recent CM7 ROM. For more info head here.
Tips & Tricks
MoboPlayer is a good video player, particularly for its ability to let you change the volume & screen brightness by swiping up & down directly on the video you are watching. The volume softkeys on the Kogan are not visible if any app is in fullscreen mode.
Titanium Backup may not show all installed apps or any system apps. To fix this go to Titanium Backup's Preferences and tick "Force use system Busybox" and "Force use system SQlite".

OK mine has arrived lets see what we can do

flipside101 said:
OK mine has arrived lets see what we can do
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Lucky you - they're really dragging their heels with mine. Can you upload the kernel & we can see about getting clockworkmod for it?
How do you rate it as a tablet? Is the keyboard OK? - some people have said it's a bit carp.

I got mine today. It's going back as soon as I can get Kogan to respond.
Turns itself on & off at random, poor quality screen, sound, responsiveness.
Touchscreen activates itself without being touched.
What was I thinking? I guess you get what you pay for.
Now if only I could get them to reply to an email.......

Ok i have to agree you get what you pay for so i had low exectations. Its no flyer,tab,transformer but then it was a 1/4 of the cost. Yes the screen has issues (partly i think due to the screen protecter and battery life is poor though ive had this on for about 2 hrs now and its about 2/3rds down.
All in all im happy though going to live with it for a bit and i reserve the right to change my mind.
Wil right more when i have aproper keyboard

yeh i get the same problem with the screen comming on and off randomly.. i wish i could stop that =P (would save the 3 hour battery life i have to 4 hours!)
you get what you pay for =P but i thought the screen was quite good considering.
did you try the recovery yet?
how nice would it be to port oxygen to the kogan haha

wlee2 said:
yeh i get the same problem with the screen comming on and off randomly.. i wish i could stop that =P (would save the 3 hour battery life i have to 4 hours!)
you get what you pay for =P but i thought the screen was quite good considering.
did you try the recovery yet?
how nice would it be to port oxygen to the kogan haha
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The screen keeps coming on as the OS is looking for a 3G signal all the time. If you switch it to airplane mode it should stop happening. Or use http://www.appbrain.com/app/airplane-mode-wi-fi-tool/net.geekherd.airplanemode . Or you could even try adjusting the settings to use 2G only.

I can't adjust to 2g only on mine - it's greyed out.
Yes, I've put it back to factory setting a few times, but it's no better.
The switching on/off isn't the main problem (though it has used 30% of the batter life in 8 hours during the night).
The main issue is the touchscreen simply activating itself. If i go into a menu of any kind, it sometimes selects something for me. It happens too often to just ignore it.

Sounds like a faulty screen :-( - let us know how you get on returning it! If mine turns out to be rubbish when it arrives my Plan B is this one http://mp4nation.net/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=68&products_id=496

well im having the random on issues (thanks for the airplane mode idea ill give it a tray) but the screen activations are not a problem.
@dwl99 that mp4nation link is the same as the kogan (a rebranded em73) so its likely to have the same niggles i think

flipside101 said:
well im having the random on issues (thanks for the airplane mode idea ill give it a tray) but the screen activations are not a problem.
@dwl99 that mp4nation link is the same as the kogan (a rebranded em73) so its likely to have the same niggles i think
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A lot of these tablets are very similar (Herotab C8, Dropad A8) but there seem to be some important differences in the components used. I've been lurking in some Heropad C8 forums and nobody seems to have reported touchscreen problems.

This one look exactl;y the same , button layout etc etc however i know what you saying as even within the same model different components can be swapped in as costs change between runs

BTW
Kernel
2.6.35.7
Build
EM73_SIS_GC2M_V2 20110516
WILL UPLOAD WHEN I GET A CHANCE TO DUMP IT

An app that sticks it in Airplane Mode when you put it into sleep mode is a good work around for now, try "Auto Airplane Mode" (I can't link because I haven't posted enough, it seems...
Hasn't randomly turned on since I installed this. Ahh, forget that, it seems to be doing it again, it just took a lot longer...
In general, this thing is a bit cheap and nasty, but I guess that's what I expected. The button placement is seriously weird, and the touchscreen and accelerometer are just inaccurate and jittery (try playing a game that uses the accelerometer! good luck!)
I feel like it could benefit a lot from a nice ROM though, to fix a few issues (where the hell is the accounts & sync menu?)

hallokitty said:
I feel like it could benefit a lot from a nice ROM though, to fix a few issues (where the hell is the accounts & sync menu?)
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Been trying to find how to set these before
i found it once earlier on but i cant find it again!!!
it was not where i expected and i think i had to do a round about method to find it.
i have a feeling it had something to do when i was trying to sync email contact with a email app but i forgot which one lol..

dwl99 said:
The screen keeps coming on as the OS is looking for a 3G signal all the time. If you switch it to airplane mode it should stop happening. Or use http://www.appbrain.com/app/airplane-mode-wi-fi-tool/net.geekherd.airplanemode . Or you could even try adjusting the settings to use 2G only.
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just FYI on the kogans you can activate aeroplane mode in settings then using the power controls widget on your home screen turn on wifi
it will keep the aeroplane mode on but wifi on as well atleast it worked on mine you dont need an app for it.
i actually wonder if the screen wake has something to do with background sync should try turn it off for a night and see.

Okay, so after being plugged in and fully charged, I unplugged it and left to drain overnight to see what would happen.
I had "Auto Airplane Mode" on, but as you'll understand, it helped, but not enough.
Even in Airplane Mode, the tablet would wake itself up, then "Auto Airplane Mode" would see the screen is on, and turn the wifi back on, then back off when the screen faded.
But, I'm thinking this might be because it has Sync enabled. I'm going to try it again with sync disabled.
The battery graph was a joke - it started smoothly going down at a reasonable pace, then -no lie- it spiked down.. then UP, then down, then up, throughout the night. It was at about 75% when I turned it back on after say, 8 hours. Then it dropped to 72%, then I plugged it in, and it immediately reported 98%. The biggest drain by a long way is "Mobile Standby".
However, for the most part, bar the bad accelerometer, terrible button placement, and slightly sharp edges, the hardware itself is not terrible for the money - 512MB RAM and 1GHz processor; I don't mind 800x480 at 7", it looks passable, although it's bad in sunlight. (Of course the viewing angles are bad, but for the cost, that's expected/OK).
But damn the software needs tweaking because it just has problems.
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Model number: EM73_SIS_GC2M_V2
Kernel Version: 2.6.35.7
Build number: EM73_SIS_GC2M_V2 20110516

Hi all since installing auto airplane I don't think im seeing wakes issues. I left the kogan overnight at about 50% battery and this morning it was at 35%. Ill test again tonight just to be sure as you seem to have the same build and kernel .
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Ok i do still have it
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Though I have to agree the roms a joke accourding to quick system info 77% of my power useage has been down to mobile standby HUH.
Edit one thought is the 3g component in there for the 3g USB comparability and if so that was a new feature so could there be a rom that exists without it. I have added a topic in this forum asking if its possible to strip the 3g component out.
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Huh, no, it still seems to turn the screen on now and then even with sync off and in airplane mode. This thing needs a custom ROM as soon as possible. I imagine after a while people will start to sell them cheap because of problems that could mostly be fixed with better software, so I think it could be a pretty popular tablet for people willing to customise it..

[Q] Multiple Issues with xt720

I am a new user of touchscreen and android phones, so I'm not sure if I'm just being picky with my issues, or if they can be fixed. But if anyone can help I'd really appreciate it.
1. My phone will randomly mute mid-conversation. I then have to re-enter my password and get back to the phone "app" to un-mute it.
2. When I'm using the camera, if I leave it long enough for the phone to go into sleep mode I can't get it to turn back on. The touch buttons are still highlighted at the bottom of the phone, but the screen is black. I can hear the phone beeping like it is turning back on, but get nothing on the display. I then have to take out the battery, wait for 30-60 sec and then put it back in. Sometimes I have to do this repeatedly before it will start working again.
3. When I try to update the OS in Settings I keep getting the message that the phone cannot connect to the server. However, I have not other problems connecting to any other sites.
4. I added the facebook app and want to remove it now. I have gone into settings > applications and "uninstalled" it. However, the icon is still on my homepage and I can't seem to remove it. When I hold my finger on it a trash bin shows up below. But this only moves it to my apps page.
5. The phone is freezes pretty often. At least a couple times a day.
Ok, this is it for now. If anyone can help I'd really appreciate.
Thanks

I going to guess your still on 2.1 when was 2.1 stock the was way too touchy. The light goes out and you can't get to turn on unless battery pull this a issue found on 2.1 their a 2.2 update coming in late July. Update this on all this option will not work xt720 it not ota compatible so your settings area will not work . Be patient wait for Cincinnati bell update and if your not with them I intend to leak it.
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As much as I'm liking my return to 2.1, it does indeed freeze up often, as I recall it did when I first got the phone. (the whole screen goes black, lights on bottom turn on thing)
Facebook app is a stock app and can't be removed unless your rooted.
Never had the mute issue.
The cannot connect to server thing I have had. But it's irrelevant as there shouldn't be any updates to get anyways.

Is updating the OS the best way to improve the performace of my phone? or should I still do the overclocking. If you advise to do the overclocking, should I wait untill I update the OS, or do it now?

There is no update to the OS, except for one that just overclocks from 550 to 720mhz. Chances are you already have that though. I do think that overclocking is a good idea if you want to increase the speed of your phone obviously. 1Ghz is nice and stable.
EDIT: Or do you mean update as in install one of the 2.2 ROMs from here?

I think Queenmantis's problem are related to the original Home app. try some Launcher apps such as Launcher Pro.
for now, my favorite is GoLauncher EX, with the latest update last week, that app totally rock. you guys should try.
I really love Dexter's 2.2, but the short battery life keeps bugging me so I've already went back to 2.1 since last week. I've got no modification except Milestone Overclock + App2Card 2.8.2. Eclair is still so sweet.

Hi I have bluesteel I have modified it some and would put up against any of 2.2 or 2.1 my numbers. Startup 65 memory and regular memory is 70 to 88 program memory and don't freeze and no lag.
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Wait for CBW's update if you don't want to root.. If you're open to the idea of rooting your phone, then go ahead and update to Dexter's 2.2, save yourself the headache, then flash one of Khalpowers' ROMs, that should fix you up real good, there's always the option of going back to stock of you don't like the results, or go back to the "official 2.2" from CBW once it's available. But that's just me..

Queenmantis said:
I am a new user of touchscreen and android phones, so I'm not sure if I'm just being picky with my issues, or if they can be fixed. But if anyone can help I'd really appreciate it.
1. My phone will randomly mute mid-conversation. I then have to re-enter my password and get back to the phone "app" to un-mute it.
2. When I'm using the camera, if I leave it long enough for the phone to go into sleep mode I can't get it to turn back on. The touch buttons are still highlighted at the bottom of the phone, but the screen is black. I can hear the phone beeping like it is turning back on, but get nothing on the display. I then have to take out the battery, wait for 30-60 sec and then put it back in. Sometimes I have to do this repeatedly before it will start working again.
3. When I try to update the OS in Settings I keep getting the message that the phone cannot connect to the server. However, I have not other problems connecting to any other sites.
4. I added the facebook app and want to remove it now. I have gone into settings > applications and "uninstalled" it. However, the icon is still on my homepage and I can't seem to remove it. When I hold my finger on it a trash bin shows up below. But this only moves it to my apps page.
5. The phone is freezes pretty often. At least a couple times a day.
Ok, this is it for now. If anyone can help I'd really appreciate.
Thanks
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1. Maybe the Proximity sensor for auto turn-off has problems, when you are using the phone, the backlight turn-on and your face or your ear touch the surface and it mute.
2. Obviously this is a hardware problem, you should bring your phone to where you buy it to check.
3. I have the same problem, but I think this is not our phones' fault. Motorola seems not to support this phone anymore.
4. Facebook is considered to be a system app on this phone, you can not remove it. The app call facebook you installed on the phone, just the update of the original facebook app. Don't worry about that.
5. This maybe is relevant with the problem you have in the number 2 - a hardware problem.
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Please forgive if there is something wrong above. I'm willing to listen and learn.
thank you

spiderx_mm said:
I think Queenmantis's problem are related to the original Home app. try some Launcher apps such as Launcher Pro.
for now, my favorite is GoLauncher EX, with the latest update last week, that app totally rock. you guys should try.
I really love Dexter's 2.2, but the short battery life keeps bugging me so I've already went back to 2.1 since last week. I've got no modification except Milestone Overclock + App2Card 2.8.2. Eclair is still so sweet.
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May you show me how to install App2Card 2.8.2 on Eclair. I try but i failed. What should I know first to do this.

Any news on how you did..?
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CrystalShield said:
May you show me how to install App2Card 2.8.2 on Eclair. I try but i failed. What should I know first to do this.
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I think most important part of App2Card is partitioning of SD card. I had tried the partitioning tool in App2Card but it never fail to fail . So I partitioned my card as below and I use "Parted" software inside Ubuntu. My SD card is Sandisk 8GB SDHC Class6 card.
1st Partition - FAT32 (7.2 GB)
2nd Partition - EXT3 (512 Mb)
3rd Partition - SWAP (256 Mb)
Create one partition at a time. Don't create everything in one batch.
Then, the card should be ready to use.
now come with the App2Card. Open the app, make sure u grant root access and all, make sure the app detect the card. then close it again. (that might be the trick). And open it again. Just do open and close till the "What's New" pop-up never show up. It might be two or three times. Then click "Install EXT/Transfer apps to EXT" button.
it will install, make the phone reboot and configure.
after the phone is rebooted, open the App2Card to make sure it show no error message. If there's any error message, just try to reboot the phone. It will surely work.

[Q] boot loop on inspire after set cpu

Hello...
I'm a newbie to modding phones (obvious from the question/problem I've about to ask). I have an HTC Inspire and I followed the one click rooting guide and installed Coredroid7 with the 3rd set of radio/RIL listed in that thread. With a bit of a struggle I got it working - worked great and I loved it. Unfortunately I found on the market place an app (Overclock Widget by Billy Cui ) - clicked on "load on boot" and a few bad settings and the entire phone froze. Since then whenever I boot my phone is stuck on the white screen with green HTC logo. The config on my phone is:
s-off
hboot 0.85.0019
micop-0438
radio 26.09.04.11_m2
emmc boot
I've googled all of the internet and followed advice such as reflashing the radio/RIL. went into recover and typed the "adb shell, etc... to remove files indicated (but they were not there)". tried to do recover but the recovery files werent there. At this state, there is only so many combinations you can do and I feel I have done it all.
there are a lot of advice on set cpu problem with other HTC devices but none of them work/can be applied to the Inspire.
Can someone please help me? In your answer please answer me in a dumb down way - keeping in mind I am new and have a hard time understanding acroynms and how to perform complex operations with the hint of a word phrase (ie - please be explicit for me on how to flash radio, instead of saying flash radio XYZ)
Thanks in advance
PS: I am already nervous/scared of what has happened, I am hoping I don't have to do a eng s-off as part of the solution please

based on my description (white screen with HTC logo) have i bricked my phone or is it in a boot loop?
i tried the following
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033353
and when i say install PD98IMG.zip it just says installation aborted. This is the image I got from Coredroid7 that was working before the problem started.
also tried this:
http://forum.androidcentral.com/lg-...cks/50301-setcpu-forgot-uncheck-set-boot.html
but my phone does not have the file they wanted me to delete

If you see the white HTC logo your always okay. The problem comes when there is nothing showing, you must have changed some settings that won't let the phone complete some core processes.
This can easily be fixed by pulling battery hold volume down button and power and booting into Hboot. Then go into recovery factory reset and wipe dalvik_cache(under advanced) and flash the desired ROM or do a restore from a point your phone worked perfectly.
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ThEiiNoCeNT said:
If you see the white HTC logo your always okay. The problem comes when there is nothing showing, you must have changed some settings that won't let the phone complete some core processes.
This can easily be fixed by pulling battery hold volume down button and power and booting into Hboot. Then go into recovery factory reset and wipe dalvik_cache(under advanced) and flash the desired ROM or do a restore from a point your phone worked perfectly.
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First... THANK YOU very very much for telling me it is not as bad as it seems.
I have done the following:
go into hboot
recovery option
wipe dalvik
flash coredroid7 again by having it be embedded in PD98IMG.zip however like mentioned above this fails.
Right now I am redoing the process again by formatting my sdcard, creating /download to put the PD98IMG.zip in follow the procedures again above. In case this fails, what are my options?

thanks for the guidance. i flashed it again with:
CoreDroid_Desire_HD_GB_2.3.3_V7.0_RV
and I am out of the white screen mode.

Just remember if your phone boots up but not all the way its still ok you can save it. The easiest although most annoying solution is reflash the rom. Also i know you hear about people bricking there phone. I truly think its harder than anyone thinks. Good luck with the inspire. Also if you want overclocking/underclocking stick with setcpu(you can get it free for being an xda member just search xda). Let it auto detect speeds. Give it root permission (itll pop up asking make sure you check remember above the allow button). If your overclocking I recommend staying undler 1.6 ghz (1600 on setcpu) and go to profile select enable. Then set up a profile for screen off and set it for around 300 mhz to help with battery life.

Carlrobling said:
Just remember if your phone boots up but not all the way its still ok you can save it. The easiest although most annoying solution is reflash the rom. Also i know you hear about people bricking there phone. I truly think its harder than anyone thinks. Good luck with the inspire. Also if you want overclocking/underclocking stick with setcpu(you can get it free for being an xda member just search xda). Let it auto detect speeds. Give it root permission (itll pop up asking make sure you check remember above the allow button). If your overclocking I recommend staying undler 1.6 ghz (1600 on setcpu) and go to profile select enable. Then set up a profile for screen off and set it for around 300 mhz to help with battery life.
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I think I've had about every kind of soft boot thre is on the sticky guide, and one that isn't, and I have always been able to recover (knock on wood). Even black screens...

I was stuck in a similar situation once:I forgot to take off "load on boot" and increased the max speed all the way to like 1.9. And phone froze.
SetCPU gets permissions in the process of phone boot up, after the whole OS is loaded. There is a tiny time gap between home screen coming up, and SetCPU being granted SU permissions. So this is what I did:
I did a reboot. And after the phone starts, without giving any time opened the app drawer for "SuperUser" app, and took off SetCPU permissions from there. This denied SetCPU of it permissions and it was loaded at default speeds. Then I went into Settings-->Applications, and erased all SetCPU data.
Well, it took me like 3-4 reboots before I could master the timing to get to SuperUser and take off SetCPU from there. But it atleast saved me the hazzle of reflashing everything again. And yes sir, I forgot to take a nandroid backup

thanks
Thanks All
Problem fixed

same issue only worse
I have the same situation. I flashed absolution 2.0 last night. Everything went good. Turned it on this morning seemed to work fine also then I turned it off for work and tried turning it back on at the end of the day and it just runs a loop. I can get to the HBOOT menu but I only have 5 options; fastboot, recovery, factory reset, sim lock, and image crc. There is no advance settings and when I choose any of the available options nothing happens except the phone reboots (crc does run a check but then nothing). Hooked to my pc and it says found android 1.0 but I can't do anything with it. I have also pulled the battery and sims card.

freedompc said:
I have the same situation. I flashed absolution 2.0 last night. Everything went good. Turned it on this morning seemed to work fine also then I turned it off for work and tried turning it back on at the end of the day and it just runs a loop. I can get to the HBOOT menu but I only have 5 options; fastboot, recovery, factory reset, sim lock, and image crc. There is no advance settings and when I choose any of the available options nothing happens except the phone reboots (crc does run a check but then nothing). Hooked to my pc and it says found android 1.0 but I can't do anything with it. I have also pulled the battery and sims card.
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What happens when you select recovery and press power?

It just turns off and starts back up and runs its loop. Same for fastboot and factory reboot.

Go here, I've already informed attn1 and his group that you'd be coming.

Going to the link.

They'll get ya fixed up.

Thanks TX. Those guys on that site were awesome. Attn1 worked with me for over an hour. Unfortunately, my phone itself has a hardware failure. Never the less, GREAT support. I wish there was a thank you button for them. This was my first android phone (lasted 3 months) and b/c of the DEV's and other members it won't be my last. Just hope the next one lasts longer.

freedompc said:
Thanks TX. Those guys on that site were awesome. Attn1 worked with me for over an hour. Unfortunately, my phone itself has a hardware failure. Never the less, GREAT support. I wish there was a thank you button for them. This was my first android phone (lasted 3 months) and b/c of the DEV's and other members it won't be my last. Just hope the next one lasts longer.
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Dang man, that sucks. I can honestly say I've never had a device fail like that.
Good luck on your next device, whatever it may be.
Tx

Disregard... posted in error
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[Q] So much lag, all the time

Alright I'm pretty fed up with this phone. I've had it for a year now, having probably 4 of them now due to replacements (GPS problems, static phone call problems, etc.) that Verizon has replaced. The same problem I have had on ALL of the Samsung Charges I have had is terrible terrible general lag, especially with the keyboard.
I have to restart my phone at least 6 times daily just to be able to use it, if I don't it lags so much I can "click" on an app just like the web browser and it will take 15 seconds to load up, same for messaging etc. It's mostly noticeable with messaging where I can start up the messaging app and click on a text message and it will take 20 seconds to load, then I click on the text entry box and the keyboard doesn't show up for another 20 seconds and from there each key I press only happens seconds after I type them, not instantly like it should be.
Things I have tried:
- Task killer apps to free up memory
- Cache cleanup apps
- Resetting the phone to factory defaults (this has happened on EVERY charge I have received so it doesn't seem to be local to my specific phone at least)
- Erasing the SD card / using the phone w/o a SD card
- New keyboard apps
- Updating (has been like this through various versions of android)
Things I'm getting close to trying:
- Throwing my phone at a wall
- Running over my phone with my car
- Hitting my phone with a bat
- Using my phone as a lightning rod
When I clear the memory (usually at around 320/373 MB being used) it only goes down to around 270/373 MB being used. I barely have any apps installed apart from the default phone apps. My phone is using that much memory even a minute after restarting it, doing so only fixed the problem for the short while before it starts up again. It happens directly after a factory reset as well so it's not like I have any super big apps I downloaded that are causing it.
My keyboard process actually hangs at times and errors leaving me with no keyboard at all until I restart my phone:
"The application Samsung keypad (process com.sec.android.inputmethod.axt9) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again."
It's seriously pathetic, I used to have the Droid X, Incredible, etc. and never had any problems like I have with this phone. I would rather have my old Env touch back with just general web browsing, at least it could text without erroring.
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

How about flashing it with a different ROM?

haza12d said:
How about flashing it with a different ROM?
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Not really into the whole doing things that can brick the phone, if I do that I'm stuck with it and Verizon won't take it back because I did "fowl play" things.

Unfortunately this phone is horrible stock, but fortunately flashing another ROM is super easy. Also it's pretty hard to brick this phone. And if you did is also pretty easy to fix it back to stock. This phone really is pretty amazing with a custom ROM
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Not really into the whole doing things that can brick the phone, if I do that I'm stuck with it and Verizon won't take it back because I did "fowl play" things.
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No guts no glory. Or usable phone, in this case.
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toups5 said:
Not really into the whole doing things that can brick the phone, if I do that I'm stuck with it and Verizon won't take it back because I did "fowl play" things.
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Custom rom is definitely the way to go. There are plenty of places to look and read to get an idea of what you're doing and there is almost always step by step instructions. It makes a world of difference and is like a new phone when you're done. Read up on Tweaked 2.0 and the custom FP1 (PBJ) kernel. And if something goes wrong there are plenty more places and people that can help you get it back to stock so that Verizon will be none the wiser that any "fowl play" was involved. Not difficult at all (if you follow the instructions exactly) and is WELL worth it. As KV said: "No guts, no glory"

toups5 said:
Not really into the whole doing things that can brick the phone, if I do that I'm stuck with it and Verizon won't take it back because I did "fowl play" things.
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Just root it then and remove the Verizon bloat. Stock rooted runs well without all of the useless crap.
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Get a different phone. The problem seems to be between you and the Charge!

Stock works really well since FP1. My only major complaint is the camera on the replacement I have doesn't focus worth a damn!

Gotta agree with the guys here.
Root and ROM, bro. The Charge, otherwise, blows.
I would do Tweak2.0, but debloated stock FP1 would be great too.
The Charge is a great phone with proper software. Software seriously makes it or breaks it.
There are plenty of us on the forums to give advice if you get stuck.
Some tips on flashing the Charge:
I use Odin 1.85
Run Odin as Administrator is Windows 7 or Vista
Remove SIM before flashing
PUT BATTERY IN before flashing
Use a USB port on the back of the computer (not the front ones)
Use the OEM USB cable
Download your ROM file with Getright or verify MD5 checksum
BACKUP any info (your contacts should be synced with Google)
Format SD card (before you Odin a ROM ) as FAT32 with 32K size (you don't have to format, but I do)-- note that you can format the sdcard with Windows with the sdcard in the phone if you have mass storage on
NEVER, EVER use the phone button in Odin, you MUST use PDA
Be patient when flashing, it seems to take 7 minutes or so.
Be patient on first first, it has to build Dalvik cache, etc.
If you need help, ask!

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If you need help, search!
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Fixed that for you.
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if you suspect the keyboard app could be the issue, have you tried another one, or tweaking your keyboard settings? I use ICS keyboard - works great for me. sounds like there could be a conflict somewhere in there..

jco23 said:
if you suspect the keyboard app could be the issue, have you tried another one, or tweaking your keyboard settings? I use ICS keyboard - works great for me. sounds like there could be a conflict somewhere in there..
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yeah I tried that..
Got too fed up last night I flashed it, used this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1406951
It is much faster however still not perfect w/ messaging (the main problem as its what I use the most and therefore notice it the most on), still takes some time for the messaging app to load up and additional time to load each thread and then time to load the keyboard once in a thread.
Also if anyone knows that flash and knows the answer to these new questions that would be great, have tried searching...
- When using speech to text on the new keyboard I get an error "Could not connect" to the microphone instead of getting the usual "Speak Now"... persists through restarting
- Can you still screenshot with the charge on this flash? Used to be back + home button, no longer works. (found people talking about "Tweaktools" but found nothing of what they are, where to get them etc. )

About your last one - go to Terminal Emulator (may have to download from play store) type su, press enter, type tweaktools, press enter. I personally would recommend getting something like ShootMe as the stock service isn't very reliable (back button and home have issues)
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I'm running Eclipse 2.0 and it's hands down the best phone I've ever owned. Although this is the first phone I ROM'ed...

My camera and video playback causes reboot, several roms tested. Dead?

Hi, I have a problem with hard reboots. When i try to start my camera, from app drawer or key press the screen turns black and the phone reboots. Also similar thing happens when i try to play you tube videos. The screen freezes when i hit play and the hard reboot. Is this the end for my phone or is it a software issue. I have tired a couple of kernels and releases of cm9 that have worked before. factory reset, reverted to backups that worked before etc. Can anyone help me figure this out. The phone is only 1 year and 2 months old

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Hi, I have a problem with hard reboots. When i try to start my camera, from app drawer or key press the screen turns black and the phone reboots. Also similar thing happens when i try to play you tube videos. The screen freezes when i hit play and the hard reboot. Is this the end for my phone or is it a software issue. I have tired a couple of kernels and releases of cm9 that have worked before. factory reset, reverted to backups that worked before etc. Can anyone help me figure this out. The phone is only 1 year and 2 months old
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try a fresh install of a stock rom

Can you provide the output from 'adb logcat' when this crash occurs?
Also, are you still using the original battery? I experienced problems with my MT4GS with the original battery after about 8 months. Random hard resets. Buying a new Anker battery solved my issue. Cheap Chinese batteries (ie., not Anker) did not play nicely with my MT4GS either.
Also if you need a copy of the stock ROM PM me, I made a nandroid backup of my MT4GS before I flashed a custom ROM.

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Can you provide the output from 'adb logcat' when this crash occurs?
Also, are you still using the original battery? I experienced problems with my MT4GS with the original battery after about 8 months. Random hard resets. Buying a new Anker battery solved my issue. Cheap Chinese batteries (ie., not Anker) did not play nicely with my MT4GS either.
Also if you need a copy of the stock ROM PM me, I made a nandroid backup of my MT4GS before I flashed a custom ROM.
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Hey, don't knock all cheap Chinese batteries I bought a battery at a shop in Shanghai over the summer, 1900mAh, paid the equivilent of about $5 for it. Works great and last longer than any other battery I've had, including an Anker.

Hi, I did a total reset to stock. The problem is still there, or at least video playback because I can't come through with the introduction after i click next it wants play a video. BAAM! it reboots. Cant restore back to CM9 either because I can't come through to settings and disable fast boot to install revolutionary, i have HBOOT-1.44.0007 that I don't like to upgrade.
Don't have random reebots. Just video playback and camera. Everything else worked. Can't do a logcat either in this state.
Any idea on how to disable fast boot? Maybe how to skip the introduction with the video?
Right now i just want to restore my backup where everything works except camera and video.

I called my phone to access the phone > contacts > mail > gmail > browser > www.facebook.com > "Do you want to install the app" = yes > market > installed first best launcher > settings = Victory

Paitor said:
I called my phone to access the phone > contacts > mail > gmail > browser > www.facebook.com > "Do you want to install the app" = yes > market > installed first best launcher > settings = Victory
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Glad you figured that out. :good:

oki, so how do I make a logcat?

Can someone take a look at these logcats? I don't understand them
Edit: And this is with original battery. Same issue with the Anker 1900mAh though

Anyone?

just a quick browse through it my best guess it isnt hardware but software and you didnt do a complete wipe between flashes or restored stuff you shouldnt. you also seem to have a lot of sh*t apps running that look kinda like malware.
first thing id do is start the phone in safe mode, then check camera and youtube, if they run in safe mode then yeah for sure vicious apps.
if this dosent work (or i guess either way) do a complete wipe, and definitely a fastboot-w as well, reformatting would be best but im not sure what fastboot commands work with the revolutionary spl, try it though or use adb if you must.
also may not be a bad idea to reflash firmware, if your willing to do the wire trick and gain radio s-off this becomes easy and will help ensure a phone that is easier to resurrect in case something worse happens in the future... but choice is yours

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just a quick browse through it my best guess it isnt hardware but software and you didnt do a complete wipe between flashes or restored stuff you shouldnt. you also seem to have a lot of sh*t apps running that look kinda like malware.
first thing id do is start the phone in safe mode, then check camera and youtube, if they run in safe mode then yeah for sure vicious apps.
if this dosent work (or i guess either way) do a complete wipe, and definitely a fastboot-w as well, reformatting would be best but I'm not sure what fastboot commands work with the revolutionary spl, try it though or use adb if you must.
also may not be a bad idea to reflash firmware, if your willing to do the wire trick and gain radio s-off this becomes easy and will help ensure a phone that is easier to resurrect in case something worse happens in the future... but choice is yours
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I have made a full whipe and went back to stock everything including HBOOT. The issue came first thing when I tried to runt the intro movie. I didn't do a log then but the issue is the same. If I need to go back again and make a log I'll do that.

Here is logcat for stock. Same issue with video. But this time the phone didn't reboot on camera. Just turns the screen black and freezes

No answers? Anyway. I have ordered a new one now. Thought it was time for a new phone. The only one that seemed better was Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE. After reading about bad battery life and buggy software that corrupted the sd card I finally decided that MT4GS is still the best phone out there. New on ebay for 213 USD inclusive postage isn't that expensive either.