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Kogan Agora Tablet (TCC8803 based)

This is a continuation of the generic TCC8803 thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1119778
IMPORTANT - THERE IS A SYSTEM APP CALLED FWTOOL. DO NOT USE IT TO FLASH FIRMWARE OR YOU MAY END UP BRICKING YOUR TOUCHSCREEN. ALSO DO NOT FLASH ANY VERSION OF lk.rom OR YOU WILL BRICK YOUR TABLET.
To install clockworkmod
Download EM73-8K-recovery-signed.zip below. Rename it to update.zip and copy it to the root of your SD card.
With your tablet already turned off, press and hold down the Back button and then press the power on button while still holding down the Back button. This will open stock Recovery.
Use the buttons on the top of your tablet to navigate your way through recovery and to select menu items (menu = down, back = returns to previous menu, home = selects option).
Navigate to apply update.zip & follow the instructions. Reboot.
To use clockworkmod just press and hold down the Back button while powering up your tablet. Navigate the menu via the buttons (menu = down, back = returns to previous menu, home = selects option).
To make a Nandroid (clockworkmod) backup boot into clockworkmod recovery & navigate down to Backup then follow the instructions.
To root your tablet ** please see comment at end of post before continuing past this point
+++Make a full Nandroid (clockworkmod) backup before attempting this+++
Download & unzip Superoneclick from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682 - NB you may need to turn off any antivirus program on your PC to allow downloading & use of Superoneclick.
Download & unzip the relevant Drivers folder (32 or 64 bit) from link below then connect your (powered on) tablet to your PC & point Device Manager to your unzipped drivers folder when it is looking for drivers.
Make sure USB debugging is allowed on your tablet (Settings -> Development -> USB debugging)
Right-click on Superoneclick.exe, select Run as administrator then click on the Root button. It will take 2 or 3 minutes for your device to be rooted.
This procedure has worked for my own tablet but I accept no responsibility if you end up bricking your device!
Another way to root your tablet is at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1119778
To stop battery drain & prevent screen from waking every few minutes - **only for original Kogan ROM**
(with thanks to hallokitty for this fix)
This happens because the tablet keeps looking for the 3G signal it cannot ever receive. To fix this, go to System/app using Root Explorer from the Market, delete (or rename) phone.apk and TelephonyProvider.apk. You will immediately start getting errors but just use the reset button at the back of the tablet and when you reboot the problem has been solved. If you ever want to restore these apk's (e.g. if you want to use a 3G modem) just flash the phone+telephony zip file below using clockwork mod.
Clockworkmod rescue backups
I've done a factory reset & wipe of my tablet & made clockworkmod backups which I've linked to below. Make sure you do a full Nandroid backup before applying any of these. Unzip the file & place it in the appropriate Nandroid folder on your SD card (/clockworkmod/backup/), don't try to flash the zip file using CWM! These are a slightly slimmed down versions of the ROMs - for the Kogan ROM I've removed phone.apk, telephony.apk, Email, Facebook, Twitter, FW tool (dangerous to have), ES Explorer, Live Wallpapers and ES task manager. I've upgraded Spare Parts to Spare Parts + and added Astro File Manager as a user app. I had removed most of these things from my ROM before I was ever asked to make this backup so if you want to reinstall them you can get them from the Market or flash the relevant apk's into the system/app folder using CWM. The ROM is still rooted. You will need to do a factory reset & wipe the Data partition & Dalvik cache with CWM prior to doing this. If you want to use a 3G modem you will need to flash the "phone + telephony.zip" file listed below with clockworkmod.
Kogan firmware clockworkmod rescue backup: http://www.mediafire.com/?izfedrz97iowi34
**If you're really lazy you can combine rooting the tablet, removing unnecessary system apps & applying the screen wake fix by installing clockworkmod then restoring the rescue backup (NB make sure you make your own Nandroid backup first!!!).
CM7 runs extremely well on the Kogan except for HDMI out & Camera which don't work yet. You will also need to install Gmail & Youtube apps from the Market if you want them. Make sure you do a full CWM/Nandroid backup before trying this as I had problems with an unresponsive touchscreen after flashing the most recent CM7 ROM. For more info head here.
Tips & Tricks
MoboPlayer is a good video player, particularly for its ability to let you change the volume & screen brightness by swiping up & down directly on the video you are watching. The volume softkeys on the Kogan are not visible if any app is in fullscreen mode.
Titanium Backup may not show all installed apps or any system apps. To fix this go to Titanium Backup's Preferences and tick "Force use system Busybox" and "Force use system SQlite".

OK mine has arrived lets see what we can do

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OK mine has arrived lets see what we can do
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Lucky you - they're really dragging their heels with mine. Can you upload the kernel & we can see about getting clockworkmod for it?
How do you rate it as a tablet? Is the keyboard OK? - some people have said it's a bit carp.

I got mine today. It's going back as soon as I can get Kogan to respond.
Turns itself on & off at random, poor quality screen, sound, responsiveness.
Touchscreen activates itself without being touched.
What was I thinking? I guess you get what you pay for.
Now if only I could get them to reply to an email.......

Ok i have to agree you get what you pay for so i had low exectations. Its no flyer,tab,transformer but then it was a 1/4 of the cost. Yes the screen has issues (partly i think due to the screen protecter and battery life is poor though ive had this on for about 2 hrs now and its about 2/3rds down.
All in all im happy though going to live with it for a bit and i reserve the right to change my mind.
Wil right more when i have aproper keyboard

yeh i get the same problem with the screen comming on and off randomly.. i wish i could stop that =P (would save the 3 hour battery life i have to 4 hours!)
you get what you pay for =P but i thought the screen was quite good considering.
did you try the recovery yet?
how nice would it be to port oxygen to the kogan haha

wlee2 said:
yeh i get the same problem with the screen comming on and off randomly.. i wish i could stop that =P (would save the 3 hour battery life i have to 4 hours!)
you get what you pay for =P but i thought the screen was quite good considering.
did you try the recovery yet?
how nice would it be to port oxygen to the kogan haha
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The screen keeps coming on as the OS is looking for a 3G signal all the time. If you switch it to airplane mode it should stop happening. Or use http://www.appbrain.com/app/airplane-mode-wi-fi-tool/net.geekherd.airplanemode . Or you could even try adjusting the settings to use 2G only.

I can't adjust to 2g only on mine - it's greyed out.
Yes, I've put it back to factory setting a few times, but it's no better.
The switching on/off isn't the main problem (though it has used 30% of the batter life in 8 hours during the night).
The main issue is the touchscreen simply activating itself. If i go into a menu of any kind, it sometimes selects something for me. It happens too often to just ignore it.

Sounds like a faulty screen :-( - let us know how you get on returning it! If mine turns out to be rubbish when it arrives my Plan B is this one http://mp4nation.net/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=68&products_id=496

well im having the random on issues (thanks for the airplane mode idea ill give it a tray) but the screen activations are not a problem.
@dwl99 that mp4nation link is the same as the kogan (a rebranded em73) so its likely to have the same niggles i think

flipside101 said:
well im having the random on issues (thanks for the airplane mode idea ill give it a tray) but the screen activations are not a problem.
@dwl99 that mp4nation link is the same as the kogan (a rebranded em73) so its likely to have the same niggles i think
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A lot of these tablets are very similar (Herotab C8, Dropad A8) but there seem to be some important differences in the components used. I've been lurking in some Heropad C8 forums and nobody seems to have reported touchscreen problems.

This one look exactl;y the same , button layout etc etc however i know what you saying as even within the same model different components can be swapped in as costs change between runs

BTW
Kernel
2.6.35.7
Build
EM73_SIS_GC2M_V2 20110516
WILL UPLOAD WHEN I GET A CHANCE TO DUMP IT

An app that sticks it in Airplane Mode when you put it into sleep mode is a good work around for now, try "Auto Airplane Mode" (I can't link because I haven't posted enough, it seems...
Hasn't randomly turned on since I installed this. Ahh, forget that, it seems to be doing it again, it just took a lot longer...
In general, this thing is a bit cheap and nasty, but I guess that's what I expected. The button placement is seriously weird, and the touchscreen and accelerometer are just inaccurate and jittery (try playing a game that uses the accelerometer! good luck!)
I feel like it could benefit a lot from a nice ROM though, to fix a few issues (where the hell is the accounts & sync menu?)

hallokitty said:
I feel like it could benefit a lot from a nice ROM though, to fix a few issues (where the hell is the accounts & sync menu?)
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Been trying to find how to set these before
i found it once earlier on but i cant find it again!!!
it was not where i expected and i think i had to do a round about method to find it.
i have a feeling it had something to do when i was trying to sync email contact with a email app but i forgot which one lol..

dwl99 said:
The screen keeps coming on as the OS is looking for a 3G signal all the time. If you switch it to airplane mode it should stop happening. Or use http://www.appbrain.com/app/airplane-mode-wi-fi-tool/net.geekherd.airplanemode . Or you could even try adjusting the settings to use 2G only.
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just FYI on the kogans you can activate aeroplane mode in settings then using the power controls widget on your home screen turn on wifi
it will keep the aeroplane mode on but wifi on as well atleast it worked on mine you dont need an app for it.
i actually wonder if the screen wake has something to do with background sync should try turn it off for a night and see.

Okay, so after being plugged in and fully charged, I unplugged it and left to drain overnight to see what would happen.
I had "Auto Airplane Mode" on, but as you'll understand, it helped, but not enough.
Even in Airplane Mode, the tablet would wake itself up, then "Auto Airplane Mode" would see the screen is on, and turn the wifi back on, then back off when the screen faded.
But, I'm thinking this might be because it has Sync enabled. I'm going to try it again with sync disabled.
The battery graph was a joke - it started smoothly going down at a reasonable pace, then -no lie- it spiked down.. then UP, then down, then up, throughout the night. It was at about 75% when I turned it back on after say, 8 hours. Then it dropped to 72%, then I plugged it in, and it immediately reported 98%. The biggest drain by a long way is "Mobile Standby".
However, for the most part, bar the bad accelerometer, terrible button placement, and slightly sharp edges, the hardware itself is not terrible for the money - 512MB RAM and 1GHz processor; I don't mind 800x480 at 7", it looks passable, although it's bad in sunlight. (Of course the viewing angles are bad, but for the cost, that's expected/OK).
But damn the software needs tweaking because it just has problems.
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Model number: EM73_SIS_GC2M_V2
Kernel Version: 2.6.35.7
Build number: EM73_SIS_GC2M_V2 20110516

Hi all since installing auto airplane I don't think im seeing wakes issues. I left the kogan overnight at about 50% battery and this morning it was at 35%. Ill test again tonight just to be sure as you seem to have the same build and kernel .
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Ok i do still have it
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Though I have to agree the roms a joke accourding to quick system info 77% of my power useage has been down to mobile standby HUH.
Edit one thought is the 3g component in there for the 3g USB comparability and if so that was a new feature so could there be a rom that exists without it. I have added a topic in this forum asking if its possible to strip the 3g component out.
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Huh, no, it still seems to turn the screen on now and then even with sync off and in airplane mode. This thing needs a custom ROM as soon as possible. I imagine after a while people will start to sell them cheap because of problems that could mostly be fixed with better software, so I think it could be a pretty popular tablet for people willing to customise it..

HTC Sensation General FAQ's. New to this device? Read here! UPDATED 8/3/11

**Added a few new things now that we have S-off. Check them out below.**
This thread was created simply for Noobs. Yes, if you don't know how to boot into the bootloader..than you should be reading this. We were all Noobs once. You can always check this more than once since i will be updating it with more issues and solutions fellow members post that i might have forgot to add.
If you dont have this recovery flashed already here is a Link to a WORKING CHARGING WHILE OFF RECOVERY PLEASE FLASH IT JUST TO BE SURE YOUR SAFE here. Will get removed when Rom Manager gives you the right recovery and not a broken one.
My Phone Died and i can't turn it back on!!! help!!
1. Download the recovery i have posted above. Once downloaded rename to remove the name of the recovery until its just named recovery.img.
2. Plug your device to a computer and run the command
adb reboot
or
adb reboot bootloader
if your device doesn't turn on, then simply pull the battery, put it back in, then redo the steps.
3. Once your phone does power on from one of those commands, reboot into android OS and put the recovery on the root of your sdcard.
4.Boot into bootloader while plugged into the computer and run the following command
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
Then the problem is fixed! I'm very sorry for the inconvenience, but thats the fix.
7/28/11 We now have s-off.
follow this guide here for a better in depth on how to do it. : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
How do i flash a ROM on my sensation?
1.place the rom on the ROOT of your sdcard.
2.boot into recovery using either the app rom manager and choosing boot to recovery, MORE THAN LIKELY your custom rom will have the advanced power menu so you can just hold the power key, go to restart, then choose recovery, or powering off and booting holding power+vol down, then scroll down to recovery, press power key.
3. WIPE your DATA/CACHE partitions, then scroll down to advanced and wipe your dalvik cache.
4. go to install zip from your SDCARD
5. Choose zip from sdcard.
6. Find the rom, press power button, and install it.
7. Reboot and enjoy!
Will i lose all my texts, apps,etc when i install a new rom?
Yes you will. You could make a titanium backup of everything though and restore it when your done flashing the roms so you can get everything back. Download titanium from the market.
What is the difference between a Nandroid Backup and using Titanium backup??
Well When you make a nandroid backup, your backing up the ENTIRE rom, not just things you want to restore onto your new rom. in other words, with a nandroid, if you want to go back to your previous rom if you don't like the new one, use a nandroid backup.
Nandroid sounds interesting and is something i would like to do!! How do i do it?!
You boot into recovery, go down to where it says backup and restore, and choose backup, name it, then go ahead and back it up. Thats obviously where you want to restore it as well. You *ALSO* can choose the app ROM Manager and do it from there.
My battery Life SUCKS after i flashed this New ROM!! IS MY BATTERY MESSED UP??
Nah its not don't worry about it. Your battery life usually is going to suck because your battery stats got wiped from android, and it has to recreate it. So let the battery die once probably, fully charge it, then let it die again. then Charge it then you should be ok. Give it a day or two you should see a change. If not, let the developer of the ROM know NICELY in his thread. If you see that someone already posted about the battery life, no need for you to post it as well.
How do i flash a kernel??
You flash it exactly how you do a ROM. No need to wipe anything just flash it and reboot.
How do i flash a RADIO?
That depends. if its in a format and the name starts with a P then has a bunch of different numbers after, then you do the following:
1. Place on the root of your sdcard.
2. Reboot into the bootloader.
3. Then it will find it, and ask you if you want to update.
4. Let it do the update. It will only replace the radio.
5. Reboot into recovery and wipe DALVIK cache.
6. Reboot and enjoy.
ALWAYS make sure you read the Original post of the person who is providing the radio to make sure he ripped everything out and its ready to flash.
My Phone is S-OFF and it fully died and now it won't turn back on and it doesn't look like its charging while its off WTF AM I BRICK?!?!
No its not. From what i learned its in "offline" charging mode since the battery is so low, and even though the light isn't showing, its still charging. To turn back on:
1. Either wait a few mins and let it charge for a little, then pull battery, put it back in and try to turn on.
2. Plug into computer, let it sit for a second, then use this command from terminal:
adb reboot
It will turn it on for you. i honestly don't know WHY its like this, but thats just how it is for right now. i personally had to use the second option. If i learn more about this, ill update you guys.
Does this Recovery update?! If so, how do i UPDATE IT?!
Since S-off and recovery JUST became available to us, its prolly not updated right now. But for future reference just download the App ROM Manager from the market. Once loaded, if there is ever an update or something for it, it will be in that app. then you can choose it from there and it will update it for you.
I hold the volume down+the power button but it doesn't boot into it!!!! help!!!
Pull the battery out before you do it. OR to make things ALOT easier, before turning your sensation off go into settings,power, and uncheck the Fastboot option. Now when you turn the device off, it will fully power down instead of just going into a "sleep" mode. Now do it.
My wifi is terrible! When i turn it sideways, i lose ALL MY BARS!! WTF?!?!
'Try moving your hand, you might be detuning the WiFi antenna'. If you know that the WiFi antenna is adjacent to the camera lens, you're more likely to be aware when you're covering it. But Your not alone either. i actually have this same problem as well. Yes i know it sucks. There are only three things you could do here though honestly since We haven't really brought it down to a conclusion of is it our hardware that's causing it or is it the software.
1.You could boot into bootloader and data wipe your sensation to see if it fixes it. BE WARNED IT WILL WIPE YOUR DEVICE, MEANING EVERYTHING WILL GET DELETED OFF IT! APPS, MESSAGES ETC.
2.If that doesn't fix it, go into Settings-Wifi & Networks-Wifi Settings. Once your in there press the menu button and go to the advanced option in the pop-up menu. Once in there choose Best Wifi Performance.
3. If that doesn't work, then you need to get a warranty replacement. we know it sucks, we promise.
My touchscreen stops being responsive! Whats going on!?
It seems to be happening to everyone after about a week of use, me as well. We think maybe an ota will fix it. But to do a quick fix of it just turn the screen off for a few seconds then turn it back on. it usually fixes it whenever it stops working.
My Data connection is horrible and extremely slow. Why?!
This also seems to have happened to everyone. To try to fix, call t-mobile and see if they have your phone in their database, and make sure on their database it has that you have a sensation and they have the right data package going for you. Also make sure your Sim card isn't old, which t-mobile can also fix for you. I Can personally say talking with t-mobile helps. i used to have poor connection. now i can use wifi hotspot for my laptop while being on the phone talking with someone still with full 4G bars.
You could also try this fix ( Thanks Mysterioustko):
-Go into the dialer and dial *#*#4636#*#*
-Select Phone Info
-Go to the "toggle cyphering" button and disable it
-For good measure turn off radio and then turn it back on
-Then reenable the "toggle cyphering" button
Just got my new sensation but its really hot!!! Is it defective?!
No it's not defective, its just hot. These batteries can heat up from time to time, ESPECIALLY on your first few charges, but it won't happen much anymore after. My battery was extremely hot from just charging it for the first time with the phone turned off, so i'm speaking from experience and from other users as well.
The voicemail notification won't leave the status bar even when i don't have a voicemail!!
Simple fix: Settings-Call-Clear Voicemail Notification.
Any more questions? Please Ask here. Ill try to answer them and add them to this post. Hope this helps people. Let's not keep asking the same questions over, and over, and over.. and over again.

you should add in some of the other known issues too, such as no sound issue & the voicemail icon clear, & try to get this as a sticky.

xnifex said:
you should add in some of the other known issues too, such as no sound issue & the voicemail icon clear, & try to get this as a sticky.
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That Makes sense. Just i never came across that voicemail or no sound issue. Direct me to a link real quick so i can add them so i can see the problem and post the solution? Thanks alot for the input i appreciate it. ill keep looking for more Problems and what not. And i already asked a MOD to sticky it. I just doubt they'd Sticky it in the General AND Developement section, since i posted it there as well for the people who miss it here somehow (or just never come to this section of our forums) and vice versa.

I've read about people having touchscreen issues, where parts of the screen become randomly unresponsive. I have also noticed this on mine. Is the presiding school of thought that this can be fixed with their update?
I also have intermittent data stalls that require a cycle in and out of airplane mode to fix. Tmo has advised me that htc is going to fix this in their update and they are aware of it.
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TJBunch1228 said:
I've read about people having touchscreen issues, where parts of the screen become randomly unresponsive. I have also noticed this on mine. Is the presiding school of thought that this can be fixed with their update?
I also have intermittent data stalls that require a cycle in and out of airplane mode to fix. Tmo has advised me that htc is going to fix this in their update and they are aware of it.
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Thanks for this. Couldn't hit the thanks button for this post. Apparently ive thanked too many people for one day
Added the Touchscreen issues and the data stalls. Let me know if i didn't put it in there right. And yeah i do think an OTA will fix it. Lets just hope for the best. I highly doubt its a hardware issue since everyone seems to be getting it after using the device for about a week.

Shaquiel Harris said:
That Makes sense. Just i never came across that voicemail or no sound issue. Direct me to a link real quick so i can add them so i can see the problem and post the solution? Thanks alot for the input i appreciate it. ill keep looking for more Problems and what not. And i already asked a MOD to sticky it. I just doubt they'd Sticky it in the General AND Developement section, since i posted it there as well for the people who miss it here somehow (or just never come to this section of our forums) and vice versa.
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I'll get around to that soon

For the voicemail icon bug, I just called my phone and left myself a message and removed it. Worked well..

Temp stickied here as well. Please note that if/when we do a rollup that this may be un-stuck and added to the rollup thread.

a4ol said:
For the voicemail icon bug, I just called my phone and left myself a message and removed it. Worked well..
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even faster: Settings>Call>Clear Voicemail Notification

ashasaur said:
Temp stickied here as well. Please note that if/when we do a rollup that this may be un-stuck and added to the rollup thread.
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Thank you very Much!

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even faster: Settings>Call>Clear Voicemail Notification
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Thanks. Op updated.

Not sure if this is the right place to ask this type of question but I didn't want to start another thread for something so simple.
Sometimes after I send a text message, the large word I typed magically reappears in the textbox. It happens randomly and I don't know how to reproduce it.

Hey
...wow... these forums are MASSIVE and I can't search noting? whats up with that?
Anyway that's off topic, so can I update the Hboot to 1.18, is the newly ship t-mobile phones at 1.18.

Issue #1: Downloaded Apps that was save on the SD card and showed on the homescreen, icons wont show or becomes like of the andriod market icon after a reboot.
Solution: Go to Settings>Applications>Manage Applications>Choose "All" tab> and look for the HTC Sense loader app. Tap it and choose "force stop" then press the home button. your homescreen will reload and the apps icons will now show.
Issue #2: HTC Sensation's default video player, sound goes away after 50-70secs of playing time.
Solution: i downloaded a different player since im getting pissed off with the default player and i cant seem to find a fix for it. i really hope this would get fixed with featured updates.

^Issue #1 worked great...cool! But, not sure how often it will need to be done....

well for me, everytime my device restarts, i do this.

Two main issues I've noted thus far, one minor, one moderate:
1. Sense performance seems choppy/sluggish when swiping from one screen to another. I believe this part of Sense is called "Rosie" but not sure. Sense performance is *definitely* slower than the EVO 3D which is weird because both phones have nearly identical hardware. Software glitch?
2. Battery use is *much* higher than I expected even after having a couple of weeks for the battery to settle in. I'm getting 150ma to 250ma usage when phone is just sitting there, screen off, not doing anything special. Yes, I have it set to push mail from Exchange, sync weather once per hour, sync with HTCSense.com, stocks, GMail, and Facebook. My HD2 did all this with about 20ma-40ma usage so can't understand why the Sensation sucks up so much more juice doing the same work. Turning on the screen and GPS (I use Google Nav) puts me in the 600+ma usage range. I currently can't get through even a half day of decent usage without draining the battery flat.
Item #1 is probably a software glitch because I've heard others complain about it. I'm hoping an OTA fix is on the way that will also unlock the bootloader.
Item #2 is more worrisome. I can't understand why the phone is using so much more power than my old HD2 (running Coredroid 1.6). 4G coverage near me is not all that good. I have a funny feeling the 4G radio is really sucking down the juice. Is there a way to force it back to 3G mode? I don't need 4G speed all the time and would prefer the better battery life.

prisoner881 said:
I have a funny feeling the 4G radio is really sucking down the juice. Is there a way to force it back to 3G mode? I don't need 4G speed all the time and would prefer the better battery life.
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I was also wondering this too. I just got a Sensation yesterday and am wondering how to turn off the 4G to save juice when I don't need it

The WIFI sucks so much!!!! ugh.... i hate it!! if i change a new battery cover, is it gonna turn into normal? i just got my Sensation like an Hr ago...

Final Root Method
Where will this be posted once achieved? I'm dying for it! Thanks.

[Q] HTC Launcher Restarts

Recently I've been noticing that the stock launcher always seems to restart when coming out of another app. For instance, I might go into Gmail for a few seconds, and when I press the home button, I get the white HTC screen then a loading screen for the launcher. So I have to wait like 15 seconds before actually seeing my home screen when I was just there seconds before!
Is anyone else having this issue?
I tried switching to Launcher Pro, but I got similar issues there, where all the icons would have to reload individually on the screen when pressing the home button. And it was a big laggy (more so than the stock launcher).

I had that same problem but that was because I accidently moved the sense launcher to my sd, after moving it back it stopped also look to see if any of the sense programs like people, browser etc we moved cause they can also cause Sense to restart if not stored on phone.
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Nope, they're all on my phone. Just double checked.

Having same problem but it's intermittent. I also asked a couple of other people and they are having the same problem.

It's really annoying. I don't always have quick access to apps because of this. And running another launcher doesn't help. Hopefully this is fixed in the OTA update, whenever that'll be.

bretac said:
Recently I've been noticing that the stock launcher always seems to restart when coming out of another app. For instance, I might go into Gmail for a few seconds, and when I press the home button, I get the white HTC screen then a loading screen for the launcher. So I have to wait like 15 seconds before actually seeing my home screen when I was just there seconds before!
Is anyone else having this issue?
I tried switching to Launcher Pro, but I got similar issues there, where all the icons would have to reload individually on the screen when pressing the home button. And it was a big laggy (more so than the stock launcher).
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I have found that turning off the Fast Boot feature and restarting has pretty much eliminated this problem.

Thanks rorycs! That seems to have done the trick.
Any ideas why fast boot was causing the issue in the first place?

bretac said:
Thanks rorycs! That seems to have done the trick.
Any ideas why fast boot was causing the issue in the first place?
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I have no idea... I can only guess that Fast Boot caches some data and that when the data is changed by a new app install/delete or some other saved data it has to rebuild the cached data each time before reloading .... Just a guess....
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rorycs said:
I have no idea... I can only guess that Fast Boot caches some data and that when the data is changed by a new app install/delete or some other saved data it has to rebuild the cached data each time before reloading .... Just a guess....
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I've tried and, yes, it helps a little but it still happens!
So, I wonder when HTC's going to fix it? (I don't feel like doing a hard reset!)

I tried reformatting my memory card and also I no longer use the htc task manager to "kill all" seems to be working for me so far.

ak29 said:
I tried reformatting my memory card and also I no longer use the htc task manager to "kill all" seems to be working for me so far.
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Hi since this evening I have the same problem. The first few weeks I did not have any problem with my sensation. This afternoon I applied a display protector and now he is starting up again and again.
Coincidence probably.
Where can I find the fast reboot mode> I can't find it on my (dutch, vodafone branded) phone.
Thanks

Usually the sense UI closes itself when the phone runs out of RAM, that's why it happens when you exit an app. Seems like also the fast boot option uses a bit more RAM so it makes the sense restart more often. Hope I helped.

Yeah mine has started restarting recently also.
I stopped fastboot but still does it. This is extremely annoying as it usually happens when I want to make a call or send a message and have to wait while it restarts.
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I took off my screen protector hoping that that was the cause of all problems but it wasn't. Too bad, also formatted my sd card again. Hoping that that suggestion I found here on XDA works... so far so good...
Edit; so far still good it only rebooted once while it was in my pocket... working trick?

snah65 said:
I took off my screen protector hoping that that was the cause of all problems but it wasn't. Too bad, also formatted my sd card again. Hoping that that suggestion I found here on XDA works... so far so good...
Edit; so far still good it only rebooted once while it was in my pocket... working trick?
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Pffft; I thought it was solved but today all misery started again, reboot after reboot, when i use my video cam it stops working and I have to wait till its working again. That costs me today a lot of footage from my kids at the carnival.
I hate it when things don't work.
So far i tried:
Taking of screen protector
disable fast boot
wipe and format my SD card.
Someone any suggestions? Will a factory reset work?
Thanks

snah65 said:
Pffft; I thought it was solved but today all misery started again, reboot after reboot, when i use my video cam it stops working and I have to wait till its working again. That costs me today a lot of footage from my kids at the carnival.
I hate it when things don't work.
So far i tried:
Taking of screen protector
disable fast boot
wipe and format my SD card.
Someone any suggestions? Will a factory reset work?
Thanks
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Too bad! Brought my sensation to the shop and they did an system update with new software, phone was working for one day and now the **** started all over again, it just stops working randomly.
When i take a picture it stops, when its in my pocket it stops... I hate this!
I will bring it back to the shop again now for a hardware check, probably that will cost me two weeks.... I just have my phone one month......

I came to this thread lookling for a permanent fix to the loading screen but unfortunately i did not find that. I can offer a temporary fix, which certainly is not what we want but something is better than nothing.
Go to manage apps, all then to htc sense and delete data. That will correct the problem for a while. Unfortunately u will look te wallpaper and apps on the screen and u will have to put them back.

Guys, come on you have to search a little better for the answer.... but here you go anyway:
There are 2 options I have found that will work. I have been using the first option for months now with no issue or problem. Sense keeps restarting when it gets low on memory so the system swaps it out. You can choose your fix from the 2 options below. The first one apparently changes the way the system handles the Sense launcher and keeps it loaded much better - it is the option I use (I have found that when you exceed about 420MB used for your apps then the next option will work better). The second option simply stops the system from swapping the Sense launcher out of memory completely. Both of these require you to be rooted and to modify "build.prop" which is found in the /system folder.
If you are not comfortable with this edit make a Nandroid Backup first!!! (If you screw it up your phone may not boot)
1. Make a backup copy of "build.prop" (I simply copied it and renamed the original to "build.prop.old" and left it in the /system folder)
2. Edit "build.prop" with a text editor (you can use Astro or ES File Manager)
3. Scroll all the way to the END and add one of the following lines as the LAST LINE in "build.prop"
Choose ONE of the following lines and add it exactly as typed here:
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=0
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1
4. Save your edited "build.prop" and reboot.
That's it. Enjoy!
*NOTE: I am not responsible for any damage you may do to your phone by attempting this mod or for any errors that may occur as the result of editing system files.
PLEASE hit THANKS if I helped you!

Mine only happen when im using widget sense friend stream. Not sure why it happen only during scroll the widget friend stream others app did not trigger the restart htc launcher..
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try ARHD with No sense. Won't have such annoying problem happen again.
although the widget in Sense is nice, but with GO launcher and its widget in custom skin, feel satisfactory. at least it save ram and stop restarting which really annoy me.

[Q] So much lag, all the time

Alright I'm pretty fed up with this phone. I've had it for a year now, having probably 4 of them now due to replacements (GPS problems, static phone call problems, etc.) that Verizon has replaced. The same problem I have had on ALL of the Samsung Charges I have had is terrible terrible general lag, especially with the keyboard.
I have to restart my phone at least 6 times daily just to be able to use it, if I don't it lags so much I can "click" on an app just like the web browser and it will take 15 seconds to load up, same for messaging etc. It's mostly noticeable with messaging where I can start up the messaging app and click on a text message and it will take 20 seconds to load, then I click on the text entry box and the keyboard doesn't show up for another 20 seconds and from there each key I press only happens seconds after I type them, not instantly like it should be.
Things I have tried:
- Task killer apps to free up memory
- Cache cleanup apps
- Resetting the phone to factory defaults (this has happened on EVERY charge I have received so it doesn't seem to be local to my specific phone at least)
- Erasing the SD card / using the phone w/o a SD card
- New keyboard apps
- Updating (has been like this through various versions of android)
Things I'm getting close to trying:
- Throwing my phone at a wall
- Running over my phone with my car
- Hitting my phone with a bat
- Using my phone as a lightning rod
When I clear the memory (usually at around 320/373 MB being used) it only goes down to around 270/373 MB being used. I barely have any apps installed apart from the default phone apps. My phone is using that much memory even a minute after restarting it, doing so only fixed the problem for the short while before it starts up again. It happens directly after a factory reset as well so it's not like I have any super big apps I downloaded that are causing it.
My keyboard process actually hangs at times and errors leaving me with no keyboard at all until I restart my phone:
"The application Samsung keypad (process com.sec.android.inputmethod.axt9) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again."
It's seriously pathetic, I used to have the Droid X, Incredible, etc. and never had any problems like I have with this phone. I would rather have my old Env touch back with just general web browsing, at least it could text without erroring.
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

How about flashing it with a different ROM?

haza12d said:
How about flashing it with a different ROM?
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Not really into the whole doing things that can brick the phone, if I do that I'm stuck with it and Verizon won't take it back because I did "fowl play" things.

Unfortunately this phone is horrible stock, but fortunately flashing another ROM is super easy. Also it's pretty hard to brick this phone. And if you did is also pretty easy to fix it back to stock. This phone really is pretty amazing with a custom ROM
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toups5 said:
Not really into the whole doing things that can brick the phone, if I do that I'm stuck with it and Verizon won't take it back because I did "fowl play" things.
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No guts no glory. Or usable phone, in this case.
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toups5 said:
Not really into the whole doing things that can brick the phone, if I do that I'm stuck with it and Verizon won't take it back because I did "fowl play" things.
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Custom rom is definitely the way to go. There are plenty of places to look and read to get an idea of what you're doing and there is almost always step by step instructions. It makes a world of difference and is like a new phone when you're done. Read up on Tweaked 2.0 and the custom FP1 (PBJ) kernel. And if something goes wrong there are plenty more places and people that can help you get it back to stock so that Verizon will be none the wiser that any "fowl play" was involved. Not difficult at all (if you follow the instructions exactly) and is WELL worth it. As KV said: "No guts, no glory"

toups5 said:
Not really into the whole doing things that can brick the phone, if I do that I'm stuck with it and Verizon won't take it back because I did "fowl play" things.
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Just root it then and remove the Verizon bloat. Stock rooted runs well without all of the useless crap.
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Get a different phone. The problem seems to be between you and the Charge!

Stock works really well since FP1. My only major complaint is the camera on the replacement I have doesn't focus worth a damn!

Gotta agree with the guys here.
Root and ROM, bro. The Charge, otherwise, blows.
I would do Tweak2.0, but debloated stock FP1 would be great too.
The Charge is a great phone with proper software. Software seriously makes it or breaks it.
There are plenty of us on the forums to give advice if you get stuck.
Some tips on flashing the Charge:
I use Odin 1.85
Run Odin as Administrator is Windows 7 or Vista
Remove SIM before flashing
PUT BATTERY IN before flashing
Use a USB port on the back of the computer (not the front ones)
Use the OEM USB cable
Download your ROM file with Getright or verify MD5 checksum
BACKUP any info (your contacts should be synced with Google)
Format SD card (before you Odin a ROM ) as FAT32 with 32K size (you don't have to format, but I do)-- note that you can format the sdcard with Windows with the sdcard in the phone if you have mass storage on
NEVER, EVER use the phone button in Odin, you MUST use PDA
Be patient when flashing, it seems to take 7 minutes or so.
Be patient on first first, it has to build Dalvik cache, etc.
If you need help, ask!

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If you need help, search!
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Fixed that for you.
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if you suspect the keyboard app could be the issue, have you tried another one, or tweaking your keyboard settings? I use ICS keyboard - works great for me. sounds like there could be a conflict somewhere in there..

jco23 said:
if you suspect the keyboard app could be the issue, have you tried another one, or tweaking your keyboard settings? I use ICS keyboard - works great for me. sounds like there could be a conflict somewhere in there..
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yeah I tried that..
Got too fed up last night I flashed it, used this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1406951
It is much faster however still not perfect w/ messaging (the main problem as its what I use the most and therefore notice it the most on), still takes some time for the messaging app to load up and additional time to load each thread and then time to load the keyboard once in a thread.
Also if anyone knows that flash and knows the answer to these new questions that would be great, have tried searching...
- When using speech to text on the new keyboard I get an error "Could not connect" to the microphone instead of getting the usual "Speak Now"... persists through restarting
- Can you still screenshot with the charge on this flash? Used to be back + home button, no longer works. (found people talking about "Tweaktools" but found nothing of what they are, where to get them etc. )

About your last one - go to Terminal Emulator (may have to download from play store) type su, press enter, type tweaktools, press enter. I personally would recommend getting something like ShootMe as the stock service isn't very reliable (back button and home have issues)
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I'm running Eclipse 2.0 and it's hands down the best phone I've ever owned. Although this is the first phone I ROM'ed...

[Q] Slow Home Behavior

Hello everyone!
Let me start off by saying that i'm actually using an unrooted, officially update nexus 5, updated to the latest 5.0.1
I have no problem whatsoever, battery really seem to have improved, but lately i've been getting a strange behavior
After a period of use (it goes from a couple of days to a whole week) the phone oddly slows down when i press the middle button, to return back to the homescreen.
For example, if I'm using the facebook app, and watch a couple of videos along with opening a few external links, when i press the home button, the whole home "loads" from start. I mean, i literally see nothing for a second, then it slowly loads widgets and icons. After it's been loaded, everything works flawlessly again, but if i open facebook again, use it for a while and press the home screen, it loads again.
Mind that i have no custom drawer (i tried Themer, it gives me the same error, it says "loading homescreen" when the problem appears) but the problem is still there with the stock homescreen. I tried force-closing the apps i used, thinking about a memory issue, but to no avail. I have to turn off and turn on the device, and everything works wonders again.
Is there any app that could help me with this issue? I'd like to understand why it's doing this and which app is slowing down my phone.

g0ldb3rg said:
Hello everyone!
Let me start off by saying that i'm actually using an unrooted, officially update nexus 5, updated to the latest 5.0.1
I have no problem whatsoever, battery really seem to have improved, but lately i've been getting a strange behavior
After a period of use (it goes from a couple of days to a whole week) the phone oddly slows down when i press the middle button, to return back to the homescreen.
For example, if I'm using the facebook app, and watch a couple of videos along with opening a few external links, when i press the home button, the whole home "loads" from start. I mean, i literally see nothing for a second, then it slowly loads widgets and icons. After it's been loaded, everything works flawlessly again, but if i open facebook again, use it for a while and press the home screen, it loads again.
Mind that i have no custom drawer (i tried Themer, it gives me the same error, it says "loading homescreen" when the problem appears) but the problem is still there with the stock homescreen. I tried force-closing the apps i used, thinking about a memory issue, but to no avail. I have to turn off and turn on the device, and everything works wonders again.
Is there any app that could help me with this issue? I'd like to understand why it's doing this and which app is slowing down my phone.
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I am not Sure whether this is 100% sure, But have heard that there is a memory leak issue in lollipop. Which might be the reason of ur problem. And the oly way get enough memory is to restart. But again, I am not Sure whether the above information is correct though.

keertikumar_ws said:
I am not Sure whether this is 100% sure, But have heard that there is a memory leak issue in lollipop. Which might be the reason of ur problem. And the oly way get enough memory is to restart. But again, I am not Sure whether the above information is correct though.
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I've heard that too, but it's strange that it has appeared only now. I haven't had this kind of issue ever since i updated it.

The FB app is just real buggy. My personal theory is whatever that app does exposes the Lollipop memory leak.

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The FB app is just real buggy. My personal theory is whatever that app does exposes the Lollipop memory leak.
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Yep i know about that, the FB app is just horrible script-wise. Nevertheless, i've never had THIS problem. And even if i forceclose it, it doesn't solve the problem anyway.