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http://phandroid.com/2011/06/20/tie...th-will-get-extremely-pricey-for-power-users/
Just stumbled across this and figured I would ruin a few peoples days.
Prices are outrageous, just a little FYI.
I was hoping to get my 7-21-11 upgrade before it happened. Well they better upgrade me early before the tiered pricing or I'm leaving them when my contract is up in November.
they should offer at least 5GB for 30 bucks.. if not, come renewal time.. I'm looking at sprint.
kriskmk said:
they should offer at least 5GB for 30 bucks.. if not, come renewal time.. I'm looking at sprint.
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I was thinking of doing it before renewal time. Even if I am grandfathered in. Just getting tired of Verizon and all they are doing, especially to rooters/hacktivists. I am tired of always looking over my shoulder.
Glad I just signed a 2 year agreement 2 months ago.
Disappointing that they aren't even going the AT&T route and lowering the price slightly for the 2GB plan.
They say that customers want tiered pricing, but then set the current unlimited price as the 2GB plan. Yeah...that is really looking out for customer choice.
2 words
grandfathered in unlimited 4G
So it looks like it's finally time to upgrade my Eris. Is the Thunderbolt the way to go? I want 4G, but was hoping for something a little smaller...
Thanks,
CJ
The thunderbolt is like the eris big brother that went to college, graduated and now owns a fortune 500 company...
Go for it
You know what it is at&t are gonna rape them come conversion time. So they wanna rape who ever then can get. So I'm happy I just started a 2 year agreement. So basically when is done I'm going to at&t and get charged the extra few bucks a month. **** there gonna have service everywhere now.
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I got 4 words (maybe 5, depends on how you count the /)
Unlimited 4G for $10/month
**** Verizon. Once my two year contract is over I'm taking my business somewhere else
Sprint, I know your coverage sucks, but keep unlimited for another year and a half and I promise I will switch to you!
Zinsko said:
You know what it is at&t are gonna rape them come conversion time. So they wanna rape who ever then can get. So I'm happy I just started a 2 year agreement. So basically when is done I'm going to at&t and get charged the extra few bucks a month. **** there gonna have service everywhere now.
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Oh yeah, adding T-Mobile is just going to expand their service so much .
Anyone notice AT&T cannot do simple math. They say they cover 97% of all Americans (about the time the commercial started, total population was about 310 million). 97% comes to about 301 million. But somehow by adding T-Mobile, they say they will cover another 50 million Amercians. which would equal about 360 million
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I got 4 words (maybe 5, depends on how you count the /)
Unlimited 4G for $10/month
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Sorry you fell for it. They offered the discounts for a year to get people off of the unlimited plans. After the year you are stuck with their current pricing plans. That's why I declined that "great offer"
Yes.. let's all switch companies when our contracts are up even though half of you won't be changing your plan and thus will be paying the same as you are now..
And if you read the original article, the same people that said the switch is coming are also saying you can renew your same plan for and get a subsidized phone while keeping unlimited data.
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Anyone notice AT&T cannot do simple math. They say they cover 97% of all Americans (about the time the commercial started, total population was about 310 million). 97% comes to about 301 million. But somehow by adding T-Mobile, they say they will cover another 50 million Amercians. which would equal about 360 million
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Counting people multiple times apparently counts with them. Same way I can say that I've slept with 13,438 girls.
This is gonna be bad for business with Amazon, netflix and Google all using streaming services. Even if you don't stream a lot of data or tether.. you can EASILY use upto 3 GB of data per month on normal usage. So 30 bucks for 2GB means we'll all have 4G phones with superfast broadband.. but use it only check emails or maps to find directions occasionally.
and why the **** does Verizon want to charge 20 bucks extra for tethering when it is ALREADY a limited data plan?? How the heck does it matter to verizon if I am paying 50 bucks for 5GB data and I use it over the phone or on my PC thru the phone???
that's just plain greedy...(assuming this is all true information of course.. if it's just a rumour and VZW keeps up with unlimited data for 30 bucks.. I LOVE YOU VERIZON!).
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Counting people multiple times apparently counts with them. Same way I can say that I've slept with 13,438 girls.
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2 more than me. I will catch up this weekend.
Make sure to read the fine print make sure it doesn't say up to like 600mega bites becausethey offer you full speed up to that amount then it goes slow. Yeah its unlimited but it goes slow after a amount is used. What company though.
I seen a article in Yahoo news that looks like AT&T maybe trying to move ahead with Shared data plans . I for one would love it!!!
Here is the screen shot that was supposedly AT&T system does anyone know how true this is?
But anyways Im hoping.
http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/23142_large_tlgatteng8374a1.jpg
u921333 said:
I seen a article in Yahoo news that looks like AT&T maybe trying to move ahead with Shared data plans . I for one would love it!!!
Here is the screen shot that was supposedly AT&T system does anyone know how true this is?
But anyways Im hoping.
http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/23142_large_tlgatteng8374a1.jpg
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this would make sense, other idea would be to have roll-over-data, just hoping
I had heard this rumor a while back but nothing else up until now. Thanks. I would love this too.
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It makes sense for the end user, but not the company. They'll lose profits if they allow shared data. I for one would love to see it happen though.
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It makes sense for the end user, but not the company. They'll lose profits if they allow shared data. I for one would love to see it happen though.
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LOL ..... well we havent seen a pricing structure yet maybe rediculously priced.
Anxiously waiting for some of those details to leak
In one sense, it does make some sense for the company. Lots of people are getting both tablets and phones. If they can share a data plan between them, it might spur sales of a tablet. I know a lot of people who would not get a second device because they don't want that second data plan. I was one of those that didn't want the second data plan. So I got a wifi-only tablet and tethering on my phone. But, from an ATT perspective, they might come out ahead if they used their fast LTE for the small screens of phones and let folks use the older Edge and 3G for their tablets at a decreased price because it spreads their data load.
I work for Att, and I know its going to half and half. Good cuz now you can have one set price bad cuz you need to think about what if lil Johnny uses up all my data... What do I do, oh I know get hit with overcharge... Att is about to make bank. Wait. And see.gghf
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I'm a member of a private site that pays people to take marketing surveys and just completed one about ATTs data proposed sharing plan. So it will most likely be coming in the near future.
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I work for Att, and I know its going to half and half. Good cuz now you can have one set price bad cuz you need to think about what if lil Johnny uses up all my data... What do I do, oh I know get hit with overcharge... Att is about to make bank. Wait. And see.gghf
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I smack lil Johnny around a little and give him my old nokia laying around first time it happens lol.
I use around 3 gig tops on 4 smartphone lines combined. So Im hoping they will go with at least a 5 gig tier so that I have a little room for oops.
We were talking about that this morning. I can't imagine what kind of data my son would use if i let him turn on data. That 10yr old is a dloading fool
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I work for Att, and I know its going to half and half. Good cuz now you can have one set price bad cuz you need to think about what if lil Johnny uses up all my data... What do I do, oh I know get hit with overcharge... Att is about to make bank. Wait. And see.gghf
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Verizon announced shared data beginning June 28th, AT&T will probably follow suit shortly.
verizon_share_everything_plan_details.pdf
Compared VZW's plans with my current AT&T plan (FT w/ 3 devices) and it's within about $5 of what I'm paying now.
+ is tethering on all devices without paying for the top tier.
- is overages are $15 / GB.
Verizon's new share everything plan is everything I was afraid of. Instead if choice they force the customers hand into buying a service they don't want. I'm on AT&T and I look forward to see what they offer, but if it is similar I won't be saving money, I'll be paying more while getting less data, more minutes than I use and more texts than I need. This is the perfect plan for the top tier users but for the average joe this is a slap in the face.
Saw this on Verizon's shared data plans:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/12/verizon-share-everything-data-plans-go-live-june-28/
If I'm reading that right, you pay a base of $50 for the lowest tier, plus $40 per smartphone. That seems to me to be more than I'm paying now for a total of 4GB on 2 phones plus a dumb phone ($70 base + $80 for smartphones + $30 for the dumb phone = $180 + tax). Maybe not a lot more, but more nonetheless.
If there is a similar price point for the AT&T plans, I may consider it based on whatever my average data is, but that remains to be seen. I'm guessing with Verizon's announcement that we'll see something soon.
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Saw this on Verizon's shared data plans:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/12/verizon-share-everything-data-plans-go-live-june-28/
If I'm reading that right, you pay a base of $50 for the lowest tier, plus $40 per smartphone. That seems to me to be more than I'm paying now for a total of 4GB on 2 phones plus a dumb phone ($70 base + $80 for smartphones + $30 for the dumb phone = $180 + tax). Maybe not a lot more, but more nonetheless.
If there is a similar price point for the AT&T plans, I may consider it based on whatever my average data is, but that remains to be seen. I'm guessing with Verizon's announcement that we'll see something soon.
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I have something similar on att, base plan at $80, with two smart phones at unlimited data and texts and 1200 minutes to share, the base plan has a dumb phone with unlimited data and texts as well
So 80+9+9+30+30, and don't forget about rolling over unsed minutes.
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... Instead if choice they force the customers hand into buying a service they don't want...
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I'm certain AT&T will do something similar. That's how they have things setup for texting now, either pay $20/month for unlimited or $.20/message and get 100 messages for the same $20, nothing in between like $10 for 500 messages, etc.
The statement that VZW is making is that minutes and texts no longer matter, they are commodity features now. The cash cow is data, which is why they bumped their data overage from $10/GB to $15/GB.
I would probably switch to a shared plan, currently have 3 phones with 3GB, 3GB, and 4GB+tether and it would be nice for me to be able to use the balance of the 2 3GB plans in a month that I do a lot of tethering.
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I'm certain AT&T will do something similar. That's how they have things setup for texting now, either pay $20/month for unlimited or $.20/message and get 100 messages for the same $20, nothing in between like $10 for 500 messages, etc.
The statement that VZW is making is that minutes and texts no longer matter, they are commodity features now. The cash cow is data, which is why they bumped their data overage from $10/GB to $15/GB.
I would probably switch to a shared plan, currently have 3 phones with 3GB, 3GB, and 4GB+tether and it would be nice for me to be able to use the balance of the 2 3GB plans in a month that I do a lot of tethering.
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Another reason why USA is slowly but steadily falling behind other developed countries. What ATT and VZW just did was overpaid for spectrum knowing that there is no true competition and they can charge whatever they want. Now they will have customers pay by the teeth for data.
The end game is that everyone else but the cellular provider loses. Customers pay more so they will buy less cellular equipment and use less. I for one will let go my personal cell phone and use company phone only. Fewer people will buy data enabled tablets. This impacts a whole slew of downstream app develops providers etc as well.
A family data share option would be great if they do it like their other plans.. offer several different size family packages like ex.
1. 2gb family
2. 3 gb family
3. 4 gb family
4. 5 gb family and so on until
5. Unlimited. And be truley unlimited family...
And if you should so choose option 1-4 let the unused balance roll over to the next month. If a company would offer this, data plans taylored to the customers needs and wants. Why have these big companies like att got away from giving their customers what they actually want and giving them what they pay for..
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AT&T announces Mobile Share: www.att.com/mobileshare
Surprisingly similar to VZW's offering.
I wonder how AT&T is going to handle discounts with the new plans. Previously only certain thing were discounted with my corp premier discount. Either way, this looks a bit more expensive for my situation.
I have 4 lines. One smart phone (unlimited data(don't really use more then 5 gigs)) and 3 dumb phones (2 of which don't have data). For the same price I'm paying now I could have data on all my lines with unlimited talk (already have unlimited txt). I'll be looking into it for sure. Just cause they offer it doesn't mean its for you or you need it or that they are "forcing" it on you.
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Obviously the new data plans following suit of the other carriers in killing unlimited, reducing data costs to Big Red is nothing new. The fact our Thunderbolts have been having all kinds of data drop issues (regardless of ROM) is just evident they're even further making efforts to eff us in our rears. I've been eligible for an upgrade for some time but am obviously holding out to maintain my unlimited.. but now I find myself trying to find a Verizon phone elsewhere (craigs list, ebay, etc) just so I don't have to upgrade via Verizon.
Is it true even if we purchase another phone on our own, in activating it, they'll force the change?
Anyone have any recent ROM/radio recommendations that are stable? I swear, it doesn't matter what I flash, my TB is slowly dying and I the conspiracy theorist in me tells me Verizon has placed some moles in the dev community to eff up our stuff (unlikely but possible).
You will only lose your contract if you use your upgrade with them. You can activate any compatible phone on your current contract without losing any of the features (unlimited data) the only exception being for anyone currently on a 3g device cannot activate a 4g phone.
I am using SkyRaider and average around 5gb a month of data usage and haven't noticed any more data lag or drops than normal.
Wait so if I buy a Verizon phone from CL or Ebay I can use my current plan on my TB?
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Wait so if I buy a Verizon phone from CL or Ebay I can use my current plan on my TB?
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Yes. I just switched from the thunderbolt to a eBay inc 4g yesterday.
My plan is expired too on month to month. Unlimited forever and no contract.
Actually, their just out to make money, like businesses are supposed to do. Things change. This is actually going to lower my bill because after i get my replacement, im dropping the insurance. Wont need it, buy phones on ebay, keep unlimited. I dont need latest and greatest. Dont like the new galaxy, feels cheap. In another few months, ill pick up a rezound
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Actually, their just out to make money, like businesses are supposed to do. Things change. This is actually going to lower my bill because after i get my replacement, im dropping the insurance. Wont need it, buy phones on ebay, keep unlimited. I dont need latest and greatest. Dont like the new galaxy, feels cheap. In another few months, ill pick up a rezound
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Saying they're out to get us doesn't mean I don't understand their position or their motives, haha. Heck, I'd do the same thing. Glad to hear though that I can still get my own devices and activate under the same plan, that alone can keep me on Big Red so it's much appreciated. I'll also check out SkyRaider, last I tried, I had issues but don't remember what they were. Thanks all.
They aren't 'out to get us'. They just want to give you as little as possible while charging as much as possible. The fact that there isn't competition in the cellular market means no one is fighting for customers. Just wait 2 or 3 years and Verizon will be broken up like AT&T before... If we're lucky that is.
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They are definitely and obviously in the this game for PROFIT, MONEY, DINERO, MOOLAH, etc,......!!!
Look at the hard facts.
Quite eye-opening really, in case you didn't have a real picture as to HOW much they are really making on us while giving us less.
I just don't think I'll ever appreciate them removing Unlimited data. It may help some people.
But It doesn't make things cheaper or better in my situation, but so long as I can buy retail and not ever be forced over, I'll stay.
The day they force me into a new contract after my current one is up, I'm out.
Just thought I'd post that link for their earnings report from this Quarter, as they just released it and it pretty well sums up this thread.
Just talked to Vzn cust serv, they said (for whatever it's worth) that if you upgrade using the disc phone price, you'll be switched over OFF unlimited. To keep unlimited you csn purchase Vzn offered phone at full retail w/out contract, or privately purchase any Vzn compatible phone and activate w/out contract. I asked what stops Vzn in three months from saying "you have no contract with Vzn, buy our new plan or we'll drop you"... She said, nothing stops them from sayinv that, Vzn isn't bound by a contract. Either way, my TB runs so well, I have no problem keeping it another year, maybe two!
Running Thundershed v1.6_CM7.2, imo lean kernel 6.2.1 (#1 normal -undervolted, 184-1408) with the .9 radios... Got 6hrs of uninterrupted use, a few days ago. (Internet, tons of YouTube videos, online games, text/calls, FB, phone gaming, etc. jumping from one to the other) just to see how long it would go. 6hrs 11min with 18% batt life remaining. 15 hrs heavy-moderate use with 29% batt life remaining. This is w/out 4G (not avail here yet) and using Rezound standard batt... Even without the better battery life, the TB works very well in this config, and operates incredibly smooth, and very reliably.
Is it worth running with my smooth TB another year to keep $300 in my pocket and not lose unlimited pkg (upgrade)? Or is it worth keeping $500-600 in my pocket (not paying full retail just to have a newer, slightly better phone)? ABSOFREAKINLUTELY worth it! Well played Quietly Rooted TB, well played.
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How about this thought. I'm on a shared 10GB plan with 3 other phones. I noticed that Verizon made sure that there was NO way to disable that stupid backup service that I can find. So it sounds to me like they're TRYING to make people go over their limited data plan if they can.
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Shadow Death said:
How about this thought. I'm on a shared 10GB plan with 3 other phones. I noticed that Verizon made sure that there was NO way to disable that stupid backup service that I can find. So it sounds to me like they're TRYING to make people go over their limited data plan if they can.
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As long as you are a member of the account online then backup assistant is free every month, and they say it is airtime free.. its only your contacts and its done over cellular ( not data plan ) - i have a dumb phone on my account and they have their backup ( no data )
santod040 said:
They are definitely and obviously in the this game for PROFIT, MONEY, DINERO, MOOLAH, etc,......!!!
Look at the hard facts.
Quite eye-opening really, in case you didn't have a real picture as to HOW much they are really making on us while giving us less.
I just don't think I'll ever appreciate them removing Unlimited data. It may help some people.
But It doesn't make things cheaper or better in my situation, but so long as I can buy retail and not ever be forced over, I'll stay.
The day they force me into a new contract after my current one is up, I'm out.
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I had a recent experience which may shed some light on the situation. I have a TB with unlimited data, but until recently, that was part of a family plan through my parents (for convenience.) Well, without realizing what they were doing, they got manipulated by a VZW salesperson to change their family plan to the bundled data plan - in exchange for two free smart phones and a free hotspot device. Of course, my unlimited plan went byebye as a result. I calmly called customer service the second I heard they had gotten smart phones and explained that there had been a mistake, and that the plan change was supposed to exclude my phone.
Well, the CS person was very helpful, and offered to remove my line from their account, and restore the unlimited data on a new account under my name, at the 2008 (when I had gotten a smartphone originally) single-subscriber price. It barely took any coaxing, and she was quick to offer me that compromise, after I suggested my parents had been purposefully misled (which I am sure they were - I figure the salesperson gets a bonus for every unlimited line he scraps.)
My point? If they still have the ability to create an entirely new account with unlimited data based on prices from 4 years ago, I am sure that they can still renew the unlimited contracts if given a good enough reason. I suppose the trick is coming up with a good reason...
You can keep unlimited data as long as you don't get a new subsidized phone. Pay full price for new phone and you can keep unlimited data.
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You can keep unlimited data as long as you don't get a new subsidized phone. Pay full price for new phone and you can keep unlimited data.
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Yeah that's pretty common knowledge by now I think.
My concern is when will that option end?
Once my current contract is up, there's nothing carved in stone that says they won't change things.
They could very well decide to try and force anyone with a smartphone on their network into a new data plan or simply only offer you voice.
I guess I just wonder how long will they allow grandfathered Unlimited data users to keep that, beyond their contract end date.
Nobody really knows.
I guess ill see first .. I'm on month to month right now with unlimited.
Yep, that's the caveat of unlimited data ; no contract. Technically, 5 minutes after you end your contract by buying a full retail phone, or keeping your existing phone (as I plan to do), Vzn can disconnect you and bill you for 5 minutes Obviously they wouldn't do this, but no contract means no promises.
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razr maxx is old now yet full retail hasnt changed. does anyone sell brand new smartphones at lower prices as they age? best buy certainly doesnt. I prefer not to deal with private sales through ebay or swappa but would deal with amazon or new egg or a well know dealer online. a brick and mortar store would be my preference but it appears they only put phones on sale with a plan, never put brand new no contract phones on sale.
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razr maxx is old now yet full retail hasnt changed. does anyone sell brand new smartphones at lower prices as they age? best buy certainly doesnt. I prefer not to deal with private sales through ebay or swappa but would deal with amazon or new egg or a well know dealer online. a brick and mortar store would be my preference but it appears they only put phones on sale with a plan, never put brand new no contract phones on sale.
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Yeah Verizon's phone prices are high. The Droid Incredible, till the day it was discontinued, costed $549.99 or whatever full retail, even though new Droid Incredibles were going on eBay for half that. And damn, the Droid Charge is $99 with 2 year contract RIGHT NOW. So is the Galaxy Nexus.
If I can talk a rep into giving me unlimited data or rather letting me keep unlimited when upgrading, well I would not be totally against organized bribing, sort of like tips for waiters and waitresses, of course we know that's not happening.
Too bad Verizon doesn't have an S in its name, I, along with everyone else on here would replace that S with a $ so fast...
Hahaha. Yeah. Verizon wirele$$
*Thunderbolt 4G*
http://m.engadget.com/2012/07/31/ve...-10th/?utm_source=engadget&utm_medium=twitter check this out. This is what i have
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I really just needed to vent , maybe get some views also .
Does any one feel like the current trend in verizon is really disturbing ?
Here are my issues :
1- They of course took away unlimited and then they take away eligibility to keep it when upgrading ( unlike At&t I think which allows their customers to keep the unlimited with upgrade and Tmobile which allows unlimited for an added fee ).
2- They are forcing manufacturers to lock bootlaoders , and take away SD card space, to cause us to use more data . Example the DNA( only the verizon version does not have expanded storage capability) and now the removal of the 32 gb version of Galaxy S3
3- None of the new devices have the capability of surf and talk on 3g like the t-bolt, rezound and the S3. The note 2 and the DNA both lost that feature . Seems to me like that is going backwards.
additional fees for locking bootloaders are being implemented and future complete removal unlimited data plans, rumors I know, but even more disturbing.
I am really starting to get bothered by their current practices. I feel like we are losing more and more freedoms and privileges while the rest of the world is getting more ( the case of the DNA getting the better version )
I am not sure what to accomplish by this thread, I am interested to see if this is really bothering any one else as much as it does with me, to the point of thinking about going to another company.
I still have the unlimited , as i am grandfathered into it , but i am really thinking about ditching verizon if they get rid of unlimited completely. Before that even, only one line left in my family plan is under contract till august. I am seriously debating leaving the company all together because of their practices
Done raving and ranting.
Not to be rude but, if you don't like the service you get for your money then youshould switch. If you aren't happy it really doesn't matter what any random internet people think.
I'm right there with you on not liking the way they are headed. My wife and I have lines we got on her sister's family plan before they did away with unlimited data, so we're here for a while, and I like the service we're getting. We also got GS3's and are on contract for a few years with our affordable data plans. When that expires, though, I'm anticipating leaving.
We'll have to see where everything stands, but if I was a new potential customer, I'd definitely go with a Nexus 4 on a prepaid network instead of Verizon.
Yes they are getting quite ridiculous. But, when you really think about it, havent they always been like this, moreso than the other carriers?
Just curious, what kind of stuff have you been hearing about completely doing away with unlimited? Still have mine through a family plan. Never gonna give it up if I can help it.
Not that I don't agree with a lot of what your saying but AT&T allows you to keep their unlimited data when upgrading because it then has a cap of 5GB before they throttle you. If I had too choose between the two, I'd rather keep Verizon here since we at least still have true unlimited.
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Not to be rude but, if you don't like the service you get for your money then youshould switch. If you aren't happy it really doesn't matter what any random internet people think.
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Yes they are getting quite ridiculous. But, when you really think about it, havent they always been like this, moreso than the other carriers?
Just curious, what kind of stuff have you been hearing about completely doing away with unlimited? Still have mine through a family plan. Never gonna give it up if I can help it.
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Rumors are two folds, eventually every one will be done with contract that obliged verizon to keep unlimited and then you will be going month to month ( if you decide to keep unlimited and pay full price for your device) . This is about to happen by this summer I think when you calculate the last bit of customers that were able to keep their unlimited and upgrade forcing verizon into a contract ( those who pre ordered the gsIII) . After that they can pretty much force all the month to month grandfathers to chose a tiered plan.
This is why I am very hesitant to pay a full price for a phone, they are being really unpredictable, I would hate to pay full price for a phone only to be forced into a teired plan, and with their trac record, they come up with something new every day.
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I'm right there with you on not liking the way they are headed. My wife and I have lines we got on her sister's family plan before they did away with unlimited data, so we're here for a while, and I like the service we're getting. We also got GS3's and are on contract for a few years with our affordable data plans. When that expires, though, I'm anticipating leaving.
We'll have to see where everything stands, but if I was a new potential customer, I'd definitely go with a Nexus 4 on a prepaid network instead of Verizon.
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You know You are absolutely correct, even google pulled their line out of verizon.
Does any one know how does Tmobile fair on Long island NY , or in general? Do you guys think its worth the switch
i kept my unlimited plan after altering my plan last week.
had to fight for it, but i kept it.
jmichaels1982 said:
I really just needed to vent , maybe get some views also .
Does any one feel like the current trend in verizon is really disturbing ?
Here are my issues :
1- They of course took away unlimited and then they take away eligibility to keep it when upgrading ( unlike At&t I think which allows their customers to keep the unlimited with upgrade and Tmobile which allows unlimited for an added fee ).
2- They are forcing manufacturers to lock bootlaoders , and take away SD card space, to cause us to use more data . Example the DNA( only the verizon version does not have expanded storage capability) and now the removal of the 32 gb version of Galaxy S3
3- None of the new devices have the capability of surf and talk on 3g like the t-bolt, rezound and the S3. The note 2 and the DNA both lost that feature . Seems to me like that is going backwards.
additional fees for locking bootloaders are being implemented and future complete removal unlimited data plans, rumors I know, but even more disturbing.
I am really starting to get bothered by their current practices. I feel like we are losing more and more freedoms and privileges while the rest of the world is getting more ( the case of the DNA getting the better version )
I am not sure what to accomplish by this thread, I am interested to see if this is really bothering any one else as much as it does with me, to the point of thinking about going to another company.
I still have the unlimited , as i am grandfathered into it , but i am really thinking about ditching verizon if they get rid of unlimited completely. Before that even, only one line left in my family plan is under contract till august. I am seriously debating leaving the company all together because of their practices
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Their executive relations team is pissing and that's very difficult to do. I called complaining about how I've received phone after phone through the CLN program have either been broken or not up to date with software. One exec assured me that they're up to the quality they guarantee. When I call in saying that I have video proof of receiving this current Galaxy S III with a physical defect and that it was behind by two updates, they failed to return my calls and sent me a letter detailing how many CLNR devices they've sent saying that they had gone above and beyond expectations to help me and I could cancel before February 7th without having to pay an ETF if I wasn't happy. They've failed to return several of my phone calls and I'm ready to contact the BBB/FCC over this. Someone needs to start taking Verizon down a peg or two. Sure, they get fined 1-2 million dollars but not like it matters when that's change to them.
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nosympathy said:
Not that I don't agree with a lot of what your saying but AT&T allows you to keep their unlimited data when upgrading because it then has a cap of 5GB before they throttle you. If I had too choose between the two, I'd rather keep Verizon here since we at least still have true unlimited.
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This is true/false. Verizon throttles 3G during peak hours but not 4G. Source: Personal experience lol. Still, sad that my throttled 3G is faster than Sprint's "unlimited" 3G. I'll pull around 800kbp/s while throttled while my Sprint friends get 400-500kpb/s.
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Their executive relations team is pissing and that's very difficult to do. I called complaining about how I've received phone after phone through the CLN program have either been broken or not up to date with software. One exec assured me that they're up to the quality they guarantee. When I call in saying that I have video proof of receiving this current Galaxy S III with a physical defect and that it was behind by two updates, they failed to return my calls and sent me a letter detailing how many CLNR devices they've sent saying that they had gone above and beyond expectations to help me and I could cancel before February 7th without having to pay an ETF if I wasn't happy. They've failed to return several of my phone calls and I'm ready to contact the BBB/FCC over this. Someone needs to start taking Verizon down a peg or two. Sure, they get fined 1-2 million dollars but not like it matters when that's change to them.
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This is true/false. Verizon throttles 3G during peak hours but not 4G. Source: Personal experience lol. Still, sad that my throttled 3G is faster than Sprint's "unlimited" 3G. I'll pull around 800kbp/s while throttled while my Sprint friends get 400-500kpb/s.
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Well yes if you want to get technical. I was talking about 4G though. Regardless of what you are using with att if you have an unlimited plan you get throttled after 5GB.
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jmichaels1982 said:
I know it comes down to me, i wanted to see other people's point of view
Rumors are two folds, eventually every one will be done with contract that obliged verizon to keep unlimited and then you will be going month to month ( if you decide to keep unlimited and pay full price for your device) . This is about to happen by this summer I think when you calculate the last bit of customers that were able to keep their unlimited and upgrade forcing verizon into a contract ( those who pre ordered the gsIII) . After that they can pretty much force all the month to month grandfathers to chose a tiered plan.
This is why I am very hesitant to pay a full price for a phone, they are being really unpredictable, I would hate to pay full price for a phone only to be forced into a teired plan, and with their trac record, they come up with something new every day.
You know You are absolutely correct, even google pulled their line out of verizon.
Does any one know how does Tmobile fair on Long island NY , or in general? Do you guys think its worth the switch
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I was already out of contract/month to month before purchasing my S3. Being forced into a tiered plan would suck big time! Lets hope it doesnt get to that point.
I'm still using a SGS3 I paid full price for on launch day. So is my wife and 2 kids. Back then I could afford to pay full price for 4 phones. Today I can't but we all want to upgrade. It's been nearly 2 years after all and everyone else has shiny new phones. Verizon has the HTC One M8 for $99. I can handle 4 of them at that price. The problem is I'll have to get rid of my unlimited data. Right now we use a combined 10GB or so each month but we rarely have WIFI on so I'm sure we can get that number down. But that's not what I'm concerned with. I'm more concerned about the future of data usage as things become more data intensive. I see the data usage growing over the years. SO, is the HTC One M8 worth giving up the unlimited data and possibly paying much more per month in the future? Or should I hold out for something else?
I used 24GB last month. Remember data goes quick.
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hell no......... i love this phone.... but love my unlimited data more....lol
This phone is unbelievable. I came from the GSIII and am in shock at how much better phones are now in the two years that passed since that phone was considered new and exciting. I think people who stream movies and music nonstop should keep unlimited. I personally am almost always on Wifi, and when I'm not I don't so anything like downloading movies or something. Who uses that much data away from home? I use about a half gig a month, and likely many gigabytes of Wifi data per month through my ISP at home.
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hawkeyejoe said:
I'm still using a SGS3 I paid full price for on launch day. So is my wife and 2 kids. Back then I could afford to pay full price for 4 phones. Today I can't but we all want to upgrade. It's been nearly 2 years after all and everyone else has shiny new phones. Verizon has the HTC One M8 for $99. I can handle 4 of them at that price. The problem is I'll have to get rid of my unlimited data. Right now we use a combined 10GB or so each month but we rarely have WIFI on so I'm sure we can get that number down. But that's not what I'm concerned with. I'm more concerned about the future of data usage as things become more data intensive. I see the data usage growing over the years. SO, is the HTC One M8 worth giving up the unlimited data and possibly paying much more per month in the future? Or should I hold out for something else?
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It's gonna cost you $260.00 a month for 4 lines and 10gb of data. The phone is way awesome. I feel it's the best available. You aren't using any where near what an unlimited user would normally use so a 10gb plan is probably OK. But the caveat will be the the increase in your monthly.
I don't know but I'll bet your not even close to $260.00. If you are jump on it, you'll like it. If not, these are tough times, and a big increase in a monthly bill might suck.
Just for the conversation, since I started using this phone, my personal data usage went down 20%. I also came from a Samsung Note 2.
Seeing as VZW unlimited data is priceless and the phone has a price, no. Don't give in; you'd only be doing what they want — making them more money at your detriment.
i wouldn't get rid of the unlimited data for anything. once you do it you aren't getting it back so keep that in mind and look at how much data plans are now. just my opinion
Hasn't Verizon said that they intend to throttle speeds for users on the unlimited plan? Thought I read that somewhere.
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Just do an alternate upgrade and switch the phone to your line. I do it all the time and I work at Verizon and do it for customers on a daily basis.
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people have said they've been successful in upgrading without losing unlimited data by buying the phone from bestbuy.com
they then take the phone to the verizon store and ask for a sim to activate.
I personally just moved my upgrade to another line, then swapped the phone back to my line.
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people have said they've been successful in upgrading without losing unlimited data by buying the phone from bestbuy.com
they then take the phone to the verizon store and ask for a sim to activate.
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I have successfully done this. I don't know what deals best buy or the direct htc website have right now (may be more than Verizon's $99) but the trick is finding a website that 1) doesn't force you to pick out your new plan before checking out and 2) will ship the phone directly to your home. Bottom line I bought an m8 at the subsidized price and kept my unlimited without swapping upgrades from other lines. I've got a series old posts all about it if you look me up. They're either in this or the Rezound forums.
My method is to just keep a dumb phone line active on my account. $10 a month, and I transfer my upgrades to that line, activate the phone on that line, then transfer the phone to my unlimited line. Last two times I did this, my line was still eligible for an upgrade, so I got my wife an S5 and got myself the M8. It was obviously a glitch, and I'm no longer eligible for an upgrade, but hey, got two phones at subsidized price and kept the same data plans. I'm in unlimited and she's on double the data(a promotion they offered two years ago).
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PsiPhiDan said:
This phone is unbelievable. I came from the GSIII and am in shock at how much better phones are now in the two years that passed since that phone was considered new and exciting. I think people who stream movies and music nonstop should keep unlimited. I personally am almost always on Wifi, and when I'm not I don't so anything like downloading movies or something. Who uses that much data away from home? I use about a half gig a month, and likely many gigabytes of Wifi data per month through my ISP at home.
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My daughter used to do a lot of streaming of music but I started just putting music on her phone SD card so she doesn't stream it anymore. That has drastically cut down on her data usage. I agree though that new phones are amazing. I used to think my old SGSIII was still snappy until I started checking out some of the newest devices. Makes me really want to upgrade.
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It's gonna cost you $260.00 a month for 4 lines and 10gb of data. The phone is way awesome. I feel it's the best available. You aren't using any where near what an unlimited user would normally use so a 10gb plan is probably OK. But the caveat will be the the increase in your monthly.
I don't know but I'll bet your not even close to $260.00. If you are jump on it, you'll like it. If not, these are tough times, and a big increase in a monthly bill might suck.
Just for the conversation, since I started using this phone, my personal data usage went down 20%. I also came from a Samsung Note 2.
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Well my bill right now is $240 after tax. There is still insurance on 3 of the lines, I should have cancelled that long ago really. My line has the corporate unlimited data plan as I need it to use Good for Enterprise for work email. I also get a 17% discount through work. So it is likely my bill will go up slightly, especially if we go over the data allotment. Which is my main concern for the future, not right now. But who knows how long Verizon will even allow us to stay on unlimited anyway.
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I have successfully done this. I don't know what deals best buy or the direct htc website have right now (may be more than Verizon's $99) but the trick is finding a website that 1) doesn't force you to pick out your new plan before checking out and 2) will ship the phone directly to your home. Bottom line I bought an m8 at the subsidized price and kept my unlimited without swapping upgrades from other lines. I've got a series old posts all about it if you look me up. They're either in this or the Rezound forums.
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Thanks, I'll look into this. If it works it's an ingenious way to keep the unlimited!
Hell no. I paid outright for this phone to keep my unlimited. Once Verizon forcibly takes unlimited from me I'm leaving.
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I think we all will. So I'm pretty sure they won't ever remove it, but just slowly throttle it more and more.
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pjim said:
It's gonna cost you $260.00 a month for 4 lines and 10gb of data. The phone is way awesome. I feel it's the best available. You aren't using any where near what an unlimited user would normally use so a 10gb plan is probably OK. But the caveat will be the the increase in your monthly.
I don't know but I'll bet your not even close to $260.00. If you are jump on it, you'll like it. If not, these are tough times, and a big increase in a monthly bill might suck.
Just for the conversation, since I started using this phone, my personal data usage went down 20%. I also came from a Samsung Note 2.
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Actually VZW is matching AT&T with 4 lines and 10gb of data for $160 right now.
Personally, I won't give up my unlimited data for anything. I just bought the M8, and I'm pleasantly surprised by how much I like this phone. I paid full retail, I know you can get them cheaper on swappa, eBay, and CL, but I wanted to be the 1st to own it. Great phone, I have 2 weeks to return it if I change my mind.
As far the OP's question, I don't think any phone is worth giving up my unlimited data for.
By the way this phone was cheap full retail. 32GB internal storage for $600 from Verizon store.
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As stated previously I also don't believe there is any phone worth losing unlimited data. Not to take anything away from this device it's awesome don't get me wrong but I would max out a data plan in like three days lol.