The sync bar has been on more than off in my status bar and I cannot figure out why. I've tried clearing the data from gmail, yet still nothing.
My iPhone and iPad both alert me to new mail, I check the Sensation and it just has that stupid sync logo in the status bar.
Any ideas how to get the google sync to be more reliable. I'm generally on WiFi or sitting at my desk at work with 3-4 bars 4G.
that means its syncing with something, not necessarily google. could be htc sync, facebook, twitter, weather, qik video chat, google maps/latitude, etc
mbaran said:
The sync bar has been on more than off in my status bar and I cannot figure out why. I've tried clearing the data from gmail, yet still nothing.
My iPhone and iPad both alert me to new mail, I check the Sensation and it just has that stupid sync logo in the status bar.
Any ideas how to get the google sync to be more reliable. I'm generally on WiFi or sitting at my desk at work with 3-4 bars 4G.
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go to the gmail apps settings and make sure you have the notification on, then go to accounts/sync and make sure that gmail box is checked to sync
It's likely caused by the HTC Sense sync client. It takes a long time to sync as it makes a backup of your Sense configuration settings.
I personally disabled it as I started noticing that I've used a lot of data the first week that I bought this phone.
i have noticed the same and i think i will do what carlo said and disable it too.. to see if that works... i will just sync manually before i go to bed or every other day
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It's likely caused by the HTC Sense sync client. It takes a long time to sync as it makes a backup of your Sense configuration settings.
I personally disabled it as I started noticing that I've used a lot of data the first week that I bought this phone.
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I also found put that it syncs your contacts and texts. I wish there was a way to disable that. Oh well, started using Cerberus instead to track my phone.
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Ok so I have notice that the sync icon keeps popping up and I have went into the settings and disable the sync for gmail but kept the contacts and same with FB just have contacts but every like 3-5 mins it pops up again has anyone had this issue and know how to fix this? I am rooted not roms just root.
I don't remember seeing it that often but it didn't stop until I turned off auto sync and background data on my completely stock Inspire.
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Well so far everything seems ok after I took off g calendar but still not sure but what does disabling the data and auto sync data do anyways
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Turning them off keeps you in control of syncing your accounts. If an app needs background data, it will tell you. When you want to update go into accounts and sync under settings and click sync all.
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I see.. was not 100% sure lol and I also noticed that the mock location was un checked if I remembered it was checked so I checked and its almost 24 hrs can I have not seen it starting to auto sync.
Found HTC HUB kept syncing every 3 minutes. This may be a bug in Sense 3.0 but not sure. My battery is no longer losing 4/5% per hour without use. Not saying this will solve everyone's battery life problems but give it ago. Also turned Facebook sync off.
Hope this helps some of you guys.
recklesslife85 said:
Found HTC HUB kept syncing every 3 minutes. This may be a bug in Sense 3.0 but not sure. My battery is no longer losing 4/5% per hour without use. Not saying this will solve everyone's battery life problems but give it ago. Also turned Facebook sync off.
Hope this helps some of you guys.
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As a general rule, sync management should always be in play...especially on a brand new phone. This includes email. Push email eats battery badly. Also included in this is location settings and brand specific apps. Very few people think of HTC hub.
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As a general rule, sync management should always be in play...especially on a brand new phone. This includes email. Push email eats battery badly. Also included in this is location settings and brand specific apps. Very few people think of HTC hub.
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Actually Polling email affects the battery more than push. Polling your phone will connect every X amount of minutes to poll the server for new mail so it's constantly using data every time it checks. Push email the emails are only pushed to the phone when there are new messages so data is only used when the server pushes the message to your phone instead of your phone connecting to poll your email account every 15 minutes or every hour, sending data to the server, the server checking if there are messages, then pulling the data down.
There has been debate on this but think about it.
if you poll for email every 15 minutes the phone is opening a data connection to the server every 15 minutes even if there are no messages. with push you only use data when the message is pushed to you.
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Found HTC HUB kept syncing every 3 minutes. This may be a bug in Sense 3.0 but not sure. My battery is no longer losing 4/5% per hour without use. Not saying this will solve everyone's battery life problems but give it ago. Also turned Facebook sync off.
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where do you check the settings for the HTC HUB syncing?
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where do you check the settings for the HTC HUB syncing?
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Settings - Accounts & sync - HTC Sense
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Settings - Accounts & sync - HTC Sense
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i was doing this before but i wasnt seeing HTC Sense thats y i asked, but i just realized its because it wasnt added to the list yet, so i just dint add it since im not even using it
Yeah i turned it off and im lasting a day and a half now. I like it but it's not worth all that battery life.
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HTC Hub is useless anyway. I don't know why anyone would want to use it.
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When you have the two check boxes to sync htc hub and htc sync checked what info does it sync anyway?
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When you have the two check boxes to sync htc hub and htc sync checked what info does it sync anyway?
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my guess is the hub is to let you know of new widgets & crap & htc sync is is for their online site that can locate your phone, backs up your contacts/sms, & all of that
Honestly the screen is the culprit of battery drainage on my phone. I turned it all the way down and its been 5 hours and my battery is still 93%
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Jackasaur said:
Honestly the screen is the culprit of battery drainage on my phone. I turned it all the way down and its been 5 hours and my battery is still 93%
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Mine too. I found that friendstream was the actual culprit. Even though it said "Display" i discovered that that includes widgets also. Took friendstream off my desktop and unchecked the HTC HUB & SYNC and I'm perfect now.
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Actually Polling email affects the battery more than push. Polling your phone will connect every X amount of minutes to poll the server for new mail so it's constantly using data every time it checks. Push email the emails are only pushed to the phone when there are new messages so data is only used when the server pushes the message to your phone instead of your phone connecting to poll your email account every 15 minutes or every hour, sending data to the server, the server checking if there are messages, then pulling the data down.
There has been debate on this but think about it.
if you poll for email every 15 minutes the phone is opening a data connection to the server every 15 minutes even if there are no messages. with push you only use data when the message is pushed to you.
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I think you misunderstand push vs pull in this context.
Pretty much all home WiFi routers as well as many mobile operators put your phone behind NAT. Also, every time you change networks your phone may end up with a different IP address. This means your phone is effectively unreachable for push messages in the way that you describe: sitting idle waiting for a message.
To be addressable by the push server it will need to poll each time it changes IP. To work around the NAT issue it will need to poll frequently regardless of IP changes, just to keep an open channel. (This because NAT mappings time out after a short while.) Push in the traditional sense is cool just because your message arrive instantly.
The idea that push saves battery is really just because of how Apple introduced push. They don't allow other apps to poll or to keep a traditional push connections open in the background. Instead they force all apps to use their push system, which results in a number of battery savings:
* Keeping 1 channel open with Apple's server vs. tons of poll/push connections with various servers is more efficient, simply because there is much less activity.
* That 1 channel is kept open with a specifically designed and very efficient protocol. It's not exchanging a lot of data just to keep the connection alive. (E.g. when you poll your e-mail you have a TCP handshake, an SSL handshake, an IMAP login and then a message list; much less efficient than the simple poll done by Apple.)
* Since no apps are pushing or polling themselves, they can be terminated or suspended completely without running stuff in the background. They don't wake up until the user responds to an Apple push message.
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Mine too. I found that friendstream was the actual culprit. Even though it said "Display" i discovered that that includes widgets also. Took friendstream off my desktop and unchecked the HTC HUB & SYNC and I'm perfect now.
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I don't use hub or sense (though Sense is always listed in my running apps). My question is my screen is always 95% of the drain. You indicate that widgets are also included in the mix. I have Pure Messenger widgets, doubletwist (which is ALWAYS running even when its not a widget or activated by me), FB for android, Twitter, Twidroid and Friendcaster as widgets on my screens. However, I have Fcaster, Twitter, Twidroid and Pure messenger (for g-mail) polling every 4 hours. I am getting killed when I perform any extended action like taking a few pics and talking on the phone. If I open up any FB app I can watch the battery start to tick backwards like an odometer. Are these widgets responsible for this, though they are are scheduled for polling?
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I think you misunderstand push vs pull in this context.
Pretty much all home WiFi routers as well as many mobile operators put your phone behind NAT. Also, every time you change networks your phone may end up with a different IP address. This means your phone is effectively unreachable for push messages in the way that you describe: sitting idle waiting for a message.
To be addressable by the push server it will need to poll each time it changes IP. To work around the NAT issue it will need to poll frequently regardless of IP changes, just to keep an open channel. (This because NAT mappings time out after a short while.) Push in the traditional sense is cool just because your message arrive instantly.
The idea that push saves battery is really just because of how Apple introduced push. They don't allow other apps to poll or to keep a traditional push connections open in the background. Instead they force all apps to use their push system, which results in a number of battery savings:
* Keeping 1 channel open with Apple's server vs. tons of poll/push connections with various servers is more efficient, simply because there is much less activity.
* That 1 channel is kept open with a specifically designed and very efficient protocol. It's not exchanging a lot of data just to keep the connection alive. (E.g. when you poll your e-mail you have a TCP handshake, an SSL handshake, an IMAP login and then a message list; much less efficient than the simple poll done by Apple.)
* Since no apps are pushing or polling themselves, they can be terminated or suspended completely without running stuff in the background. They don't wake up until the user responds to an Apple push message.
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So traditionally push would usually take up less battery life? (with Apple, Blackberry) but with Android it eats more battery? hmm I like to get my mail pretty quickly so setting my email to poll every 15 minutes takes up less battery then if it was pushed? It just seems odd that it would eat more battery with android but the opposite on apple and BB devices (I only know about BB never owned an iphone or ipad, never will)
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Mine too. I found that friendstream was the actual culprit. Even though it said "Display" i discovered that that includes widgets also. Took friendstream off my desktop and unchecked the HTC HUB & SYNC and I'm perfect now.
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How much of a battery increase did you notice from removing friend stream? I had the friend stream widget and just removed it. Hopefully that will help. I also use the HTC calendar widget, mail widget, weather widget and message widget
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How much of a battery increase did you notice from removing friend stream? I had the friend stream widget and just removed it. Hopefully that will help. I also use the HTC calendar widget, mail widget, weather widget and message widget
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I go from generally...well..let me give u today's numbers.
5:11pm Unplugged at 100%
8:54pm 74% with moderate usage. (Tweetdeck, 47 texts, Google Talk non stop, 5 phone calls about 15 minutes or so a piece)
I only have Engadget, Bookmarks, Google Music and power Widget on Display and I am doing great... i generally recharge once a day now.
So I am 100% sure Friendstream is the Display killer for battery and HTC Sense is the other culprit...Disable these 2 and you will see what I mean.
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So I am 100% sure Friendstream is the Display killer for battery and HTC Sense is the other culprit...Disable these 2 and you will see what I mean.
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How do you disable HTC Sense?
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How do you disable HTC Sense?
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I think he meant to disable HTC Hub from sync as mentioned earlier. If you use an alternative launcher I think you can use a task killer or app like android assistant to kill HTC Sense at start up. because even if you use another launcher it still runs in the background
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I think he meant to disable HTC Hub from sync as mentioned earlier. If you use an alternative launcher I think you can use a task killer or app like android assistant to kill HTC Sense at start up. because even if you use another launcher it still runs in the background
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I was kinda thinking the same and will be trying Zeam...thanks
I'm having trouble syncing my Google account on my AT&T SGS2.
Basically the phone won't sync automatically when connected to wifi. The only way to get new email, google voice text, calendar entry etc. is to perform a manual refresh, which is extremely annoying and inconvenient.
And no, it doesn't auto sync even when the screen is kept on.
Funny thing is when wifi is turned off (so when using 3G data), syncing works perfectly and push notifications come almost instantly.
I've tried different kernels and roms and none of those help. I'm starting to believe that I have a weirdly defective device. Any ideas?
Morning all.
I am refering to the accounts and sync on the phone itself. Not the HTC Sync application.
The model is irrelevant, but I have an HTC Incredible S
It has done this since day one, so does my GF's
Basically it always seems to start to Sync (Gmail, FBook etc) when I am doing something internet related. If I am texting, or going though menus , or on a call, or gaming the sync icon never appears.
As soon as I try to browse a webpage or go on youtube or tune in radio it decides now is the best time to sync all my account and jam up my internet. (Wifi or Mobile)
Why on Earth does it do this, it always always waits for me to use the internet, then slows it to a hault by trying to sync everything. Surely it makes more sense to restrict sync when using data-intensive apps.
I'm sick of cancelling sync to the point where I may set it to manual, but I don't want to.
So...... Why does my phone always choose an inconvenient time to try and sync, Would it not make sense to do it when the screen is locked, or when you walk into a wifi zone and the screen is locked, or if you have a decent mobile connection, and your not using it!
Anybody else notice this?
Thanks
Dean
Hey guys,
Tried searching for this, but nada.
Anyone else having issues with your phone being idle but powered on ans upon bringing on the screen you receive a google talk notification that's old? Is been happening to me lately, and I can't tell if it's the phone or the fact that my desktop version is intercepting the message and preventing the phone notification.
I'm tempted to no longer use the desktop built in gmail version, but I wanted to see if others are having similar issues.
Thanks in advance!
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Can't guarantee this, but I have a feeling it may have something to do with the phone letting the Google talk process close when the phone is in it's sleep state. I've noted that I keep having to re sign in to gtalk when I wake up my phone and suspect that it is an issue with the horrible multitasking that HTC has bundled into sense 4.0.
I assume both of you also get delayed notifications with push email using the native Gmail app? I also frequently get logged out of Google Talk when I put the phone in standby mode. When I am logged out of Google Talk, my push emails are delayed in the Gmail app until I log back into Google Talk.
So it seems to be some problem of getting disconnected from google services when the phone is asleep.
I don't think i've been getting delayed notifications, but I do notice that my chat gets out of order a lot. My replies will be above whoever is talking to me no matter what order each was sent in.
Almost every phone that comes out gets a google talk going eventually so there is lots out there, but each phone has it's own issues. Here is a thread that was pretty good from the Galaxy Nexus Forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1400367
With the HOX I have had issues with Google Talk not working great when the wifi is dropping, so this might be part of the wifi issue that pretty much everybody is having with this phone. The wifi stays connected but seems to go to sleep so your phone only gets the notification once it is woken up. Try turning off the wifi and seeing if you have the same problem.
As for Google Talk, there are some oddities that go along with using it on multiple devices. Here is some stuff I figured out playing around with it on multiple devices and computers at the same time. (I posted this in the GN forums as well)
"Google Talk is my main means of communication it seems so I have played with it a lot. Here are my observations.
1. To keep it "up" all the time in the Talk App hit the menu button (three dots now) >settings>uncheck automatic away status. Also make sure your phone has automatic syncing turned on for your gmail account: Setting>Accounts and Sync>ON (for your chat gmail address anyway). Additionally make sure your mobile data is turned on if you are ever off wifi: Settings>More>Mobile networks>Data Enabled (checked to turn on)
2. You can have up to 6 devices linked to your talk account at once, after that they just stop working.
3. When you receive a IM it appears on both your phone and your gmail account. If you start typing on the gmail account (or G+) it hijacks the whole session and you phone no longer gets the notifications, but the conversation still shows up on the chat window on the phone. When you are done with the IM session make sure you close the window on gmail (or G+) and send one last message from your phone or tablet to take the session back over, if you don't your phone will not receive future chat notifications. You can also just log out of your gmail/G+ session and it will automatically return everything to your phone/tablet but who ever does that?
4. To figure out how it all worked and tinker with it I use both of my gmail accounts and chat back and forth with them. You can do it from separate browsers or just open an incognito window in Chrome and log into your other gmail account. I would recommend this so you can see all of this stuff in practice.
Good Luck, hope this helps"
Gtalk and gmail delays
Hi all,
I have performed tests and discovered that if i disable WiFI and only use the phone's data connection "4g" or LTE that i receive all my messages with no problem even when the phone locks/goes to sleep. However if i leave wifi turned on, within 5-10 seconds i stop receiving them and will only receive them when i wake up the phone/unlock or wait for the delay which can be anywhere from 5-15 mins.
Trying to figure out a way to by pass this, but can't seem to figure it out. I don't want to keep my wifi off when i'm at work or home so i don't use data as i have 3GB and not unlimited so it kind of sucks that i have to keep wifi off for now. Any thoughts/ideas would be great, thanks.
k0sun7eash3d said:
Can't guarantee this, but I have a feeling it may have something to do with the phone letting the Google talk process close when the phone is in it's sleep state. I've noted that I keep having to re sign in to gtalk when I wake up my phone and suspect that it is an issue with the horrible multitasking that HTC has bundled into sense 4.0.
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This. I have issues with timely/accurate reception of notifications from GV. I only use my account for voicemail, but typically I only get voicemail notifications if I open the actual application (which I do because my gmail account receives an email notification now, as well). Sometimes I notice GV as a running task, but often times not, so to me it seems that (possibly) multitasking or some other form of process management in ICS or Sense is not prioritizing the GV process and it's associated actions. I dont mind the aggressive multitasking, but it would be nice to have the option of protecting some processes, such as GV.
I removed google + app completely with titanium backup, and the problem is gone., I get the messages immediately
Push Notifications Fixer can fix it
xda http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2142503
play store https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andqlimax.pushfixer
I'm running the latest Viper, I've never had an issue receiving or sending msgs. The only time the phone won't alert me is if I am actively typing in the browser window.
I'll note though that I never have wifi on, it's always on the mobile network.
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Push Notifications Fixer can fix it
xda http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2142503
play store https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andqlimax.pushfixer
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I tried everything not even this works for me
Same problem, screen off - phone disconnects, unlock the phone - messages start to appear
Same problem on 2 different phones and 2 different numbers
I don't use G Talk, but I see the same thing with G Voice. I almost never get voicemail notifications on my HOX (they show up instantly on my old GNex). I blame Sense (for this and other things).
Same problem, but with Nexus 4 when I am on WiFi. With data connection, it works without problems.