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Why such low ram?

Why do I get such low RAM?
On my Sensation I get around 160 MB free with no apps running. On my iPhone 4 with 512 ram I got around 330 MB~ with everything closed.
I disabled sense and uninstalled some bloatware yet that doesn't seem to help. What's hogging my memory???
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Don't mean to sound like a smart ass but that's HTC sense for you...

ungraph said:
Why do I get such low RAM?
On my Sensation I get around 160 MB free with no apps running. On my iPhone 4 with 512 ram I got around 330 MB~ with everything closed.
I disabled sense and uninstalled some bloatware yet that doesn't seem to help. What's hogging my memory???
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if you have a trawl through all the information in XDA (Painful i know) you will see that its no bad thing to have things in RAM. Android works differently to iOS and Windows and works best when its applications are held in RAM.
It will also auto-kill your apps when it needs to and so you dont need an task killer. in fact, using a task killer can use more battery and slow your phone down - If you kill something that doesnt want killing it will re-open and use battery and resources doing so.
Thanks

alexguitar said:
Don't mean to sound like a smart ass but that's HTC sense for you...
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I checked Sense in Settings --> Applications, and it's showing that it's only using 5.3 MB. ?? What gives

Hi again,
I really wouldnt worry about it. Mine has 610MB, used 396MB and only have 214MB free with nothing showing in task manager
Cheers

ungraph said:
I checked Sense in Settings --> Applications, and it's showing that it's only using 5.3 MB. ?? What gives
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Sense is not just one app, it's built into the entire rom, so you haveany things that get loaded into ram, even though you can't see them.
Plus, android likes to actually use free ram, since unused ram is wasted ram. There are some kernel memory settings that will cache apps in the memory for quick access, and when you load an ap that needs a lot of ram, say a game, it'll close some least used cached apps until there is enough free space, and when you close out of the game, it loads those apps back into memory when they are called again.
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Dev Related

Hi there devs,
Rcently my friend told me about a rom for their fone which gave total ram as free, the developers of the rom developed some tweak to do that
here's the link: http://www.living-optimus.com/2013/07/p350-tweak-para-liberar-ram.html ,
i just think this might help G3 development. Posting this is Dev section coz its kinda important stuff and needs to catch a few eyes.
here the result they got
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Total free ram. Is that even possibly?
Nevertheless, Looks like some build prop tweak. Trying it right away.

Is it worth to have so much free ram? It is said that unused ram is wasted or am I mistaken?

zygis10 said:
Is it worth to have so much free ram? It is said that unused ram is wasted or am I mistaken?
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More RAM = more multitasking, apps won't get closed as often if system is running out of RAM.

not total free ram...maybe the core applications are provided different portion of the total ram ...dunno what just guessin

I think u are right aarun. maybe the system is pre-allotted some portion of the ram. And the rest may be given to the user apps. But this can b a bad idea cos if the system may want more RAM like on first boot or sth there may be problems. Sometimes even the system gives away some part of its RAM usage when some apps require it. But in this case of partitioning the RAM this may not be possible. Lets see though what this mod has to offer.....

There are three tweaks there which one should i pick? If this really works i won't buy a new phone next year!

@aarrun
can u upload build.prop and system.prop files from ur friends phone and xda link of the rom ur friend is using.

superfrancy97 said:
There are three tweaks there which one should i pick? If this really works i won't buy a new phone next year!
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OK, i translated the page and the real tweak is the fourth. I tried it on my phone and RAM got optimized a little (i have 54 applications installed and normally i get 40-50 Mb of free RAM now i'm getting 100-110 MB of free ram). This evening i will try the other improvements too!
I am on CyanogenMod Alpha9 MTD and here's my build.prop.
Always do a Nandroid backup and build.prop backup before trying this stuff.

awesome!!!! Its really working!

amarendar94 said:
awesome!!!! Its really working!
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I did a data wipe to test if i really could get total RAM free but the maximum of RAM free i could obtain was 152 MB
Is the tweak really working?

[Q] Thread-xxxx consuming RAM

I was checking what apps consumes RAM from my galaxy nexus (running android 4.3, franco kernel), as there was a case when my available RAM went down to as low as 2MB!! So as expected, almost all applications get killed after removing them from foreground (including Launcher).
I checked System Monitor, and there were "apps" named Thread-xxxx consuming RAM. At one time, I noticed they were consuming around 80+MB to 90+MB. In the screenshot I attached, there are three Thread-xxx consuming around 50+MB each.
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Can anyone explain what are they for? They are not apps that can be "force closed", tapping on them doesn't do anything in system monitor.
They seem to free their consumed RAM after restart. So if I'm running out of RAM, i only need to restart my phone. Any other way to free their RAM without restarting?
Please tell me what other info I need to provide.. Thanks!

By the way, these Thread-xxxx processes appears only when the option "Show system processes" is checked.
I was again able to get a screenshot with those processes consuming RAM. Can't seem to find a way to free ram other than reboot.
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garuhhh said:
I checked System Monitor, and there were "apps" named Thread-xxxx consuming RAM. At one time, I noticed they were consuming around 80+MB to 90+MB. In the screenshot I attached, there are three Thread-xxx consuming around 50+MB each.
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How to handle threads in Android, and what you need to watch for
Processes and Threads

immortalneo said:
How to handle threads in Android, and what you need to watch for
Processes and Threads
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Thanks for taking time to reply,
but I need to know, on a user perspective, how do I kill those threads?
I'm not doing any app development.

I was trying to see whether one app is causing this problem. The first one I checked is Skype.
I didn't turn it on for 2 to 3 days, and no Sign of those Thread processes.. Until I made a video call with Hangouts, immediately after the video conference these Thread processes showed up again. See the attachment. It started with only one (the 70MB) then this morning there were two of them.
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I tried going back to Stock Kernel to see whether I'll see any RAM problems, but after almost a week of using stock kernel, I haven't experienced any of these problems. But i miss my good battery life with this kernel..
by the way, after reboot, I don't have these Thread-xxx processes, but after a few hours they start to show up (see the attached image). They're all 20+ processes. Although right now they don't consume RAM yet.
I hope somebody can give me a hint as to what these are. Googling is no use. Or at least a good keyword to use will also be fine.
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[Q] Android Without free RAM!!!!

Hi! I have an Xperia E dual (C1604) and i'm with this problem, everytime i look the phone have only 90~30MB of free RAM!So every eight hours must restart the phone! I'm using the Experia Black Edition ROM, greenify in all my apps (except the launcher and keyboard), and i'm having problems to acess big sites and play hard games because of this problem. Can someone help me?

Hello.
No one can exactly predict the problem/culprit without further information. But i think you should start with looing up, which apps or services is exactly taking the RAM. It would be a nice idea to try this app, [Startup Manager: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=imoblife.startupmanager&hl=da], and remove some startup items and see if the problem persists.

JACK_SNOWSTALKER said:
Hi! I have an Xperia E dual (C1604) and i'm with this problem, everytime i look the phone have only 90~30MB of free RAM!So every eight hours must restart the phone! I'm using the Experia Black Edition ROM, greenify in all my apps (except the launcher and keyboard), and i'm having problems to acess big sites and play hard games because of this problem. Can someone help me?
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In either way you wont be able to play high end games since its a low ram device i had the exact device but i threw it out the window and got a better phone suggest you doing that + more ram wont give you anything since the cpu and gpu is really really crap. so if you dont need to play games and just dont want the system to lag i suggest installing Android LimeOs 1.1 or 1.12 since its very very light weight i have
xperia go and another phone on xperia go it has 512 ram and with lime os there is about 200-100 mb left
thats the limit of free ram cuz the system rezerves about 300 mb

In either way you wont be able to play high end games since its a low ram device i had the exact device but i threw it out the window and got a better phone suggest you doing that + more ram wont give you anything since the cpu and gpu is really really crap. so if you dont need to play games and just dont want the system to lag i suggest installing Android LimeOs 1.1 or 1.12 since its very very light weight i have
xperia go and another phone on xperia go it has 512 ram and with lime os there is about 200-100 mb left
thats the limit of free ram cuz the system rezerves about 300 mb
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yeah, i know about that....but i don't have money to buy other phone, and if i had money to change my smartphone, i would not be asking. But thank you!!! I will search this Android ROM,thank you!
Hello.
No one can exactly predict the problem/culprit without further information. But i think you should start with looing up, which apps or services is exactly taking the RAM. It would be a nice idea to try this app, [Startup Manager: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...manager&hl=da], and remove some startup items and see if the problem persists.
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this was the first thing i made when i installed the ROM and the apps.
Guys, my problem is, after hours, my android become slow, and without free RAM, i installed the "watchdog" app, and i saw, all memory is consumed by system apps (some are necessary, some not) and Whatsapp closes, my Launcher (smartlauncher 2) closes too, and it's pissing me off!
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RAM Hog?

Is this normal RAM usage? I just got my phone today and have a minimum of apps installed on it. Also, what is the icon next to the 4G LTE icon?
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normal for a samsung lol

0dBu said:
Is this normal RAM usage? I just got my phone today and have a minimum of apps installed on it. Also, what is the icon next to the 4G LTE icon?
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Pretty much every Android device ends up essentially allocating nearly the maximum amount of a device's RAM to the OS itself. The OS then manages your various apps by utilizing that allocated RAM as well as scaling up or down its use of the RAM as necessary. So although it seems strange, there's actually more RAM available to apps than it appears.
Perfect normal.
As for the icon I don't know... NFC icon maybe?

There is a saying that goes a little like this "Free ram is wasted ram" and for the most part it is true.
Android is smart enough to deal with ram all on its own and unless you are noticing tab reloading or other issues with multitasking, you shouldn't care about the amount of "free" ram you have.
Also, icon next to your LTE icon is for NFC.
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I get that free RAM is wasted RAM and I'm not am Android noob, that just seemed excessive.

In my LG G2 before with 2 GB Ram I get 900mb user free and with my Note 3 before with 3 GB ram I get 1.9 GB user free RAM. I think this is excessive. Though I always root my device and use greenify with it but still.

If you know that free ram is wasted ram, instead of thinking it's excessive, you should be thinking "Why is there still 13% not being used?"

I have no issue with the phone using a ton of RAM, but I'm finding that when I'm in the car using Google Nav (foreground) and Pandora (background) together, will usually cause Pandora to close. The only time I've seent his before was when the memory leak was first introduced on my Nexus 5. Really odd stuff.