[Q] Desire S or Optimus 2X. Which to buy ? - HTC Desire S

Yes, I went through this post. Here are my requirements in order
Good battery life
Future Updates
Camera
Application running stability
OS Stability
I dont want to spend much so Samsung Galaxy S2 or HTC Sensation is out of the picture. Spec wise I found the following
DS has 1GHz Snapdragon, O2X has 1GHz dual core Tegra 2
DS has 768MB RAM, O2X has 512MB RAM
DS fits my pocket perfectly, O2X is litle bigger
DS comes with Android 2.3 Gingerbread, O2X is pushing updates release further and further
DS looks fairly stable, O2X is buggy. Need a comparison of O2X with CM and DS stock ROM
What I am looking for is when Google releases Android 2.4 Ice cream Sandwich some time in Q4, I want to have it on my phone ASAP. If LG is taking so long to release GB updates I wonder how long will they take for Ice Cream Sandwich. I am a light user. Few calls, few messages, occasional gaming, occasional photography, occasional WiFi but a lot of music and apps. Which device do you think I should go for ? I am looking all this from Ice Cream Sandwich point of view. I dont want my phone to be obsolete by Q1 next year.

prince87 said:
Yes, I went through this post. Here are my requirements in order
Good battery life
Future Updates
Camera
Application running stability
OS Stability
I dont want to spend much so Samsung Galaxy S2 or HTC Sensation is out of the picture. Spec wise I found the following
DS has 1GHz Snapdragon, O2X has 1GHz dual core Tegra 2
DS has 768MB RAM, O2X has 512MB RAM
DS fits my pocket perfectly, O2X is litle bigger
DS comes with Android 2.3 Gingerbread, O2X is pushing updates release further and further
DS looks fairly stable, O2X is buggy. Need a comparison of O2X with CM and DS stock ROM
What I am looking for is when Google releases Android 2.4 Ice cream Sandwich some time in Q4, I want to have it on my phone ASAP. If LG is taking so long to release GB updates I wonder how long will they take for Ice Cream Sandwich. I am a light user. Few calls, few messages, occasional gaming, occasional photography, occasional WiFi but a lot of music and apps. Which device do you think I should go for ? I am looking all this from Ice Cream Sandwich point of view. I dont want my phone to be obsolete by Q1 next year.
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reading from your summary above, there appears to be no decision, I'd buy the Desire S, especially if I didn't already own one!

ben_pyett said:
reading from your summary above, there appears to be no decision, I'd buy the Desire S, especially if I didn't already own one!
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Yes. It looks good now. But in Q4, Ice Cream Sandwich is coming. I heard it comes with optimization for dual core and hardware acceleration. Desire S will fall behind then.

prince87 said:
Yes. It looks good now. But in Q4, Ice Cream Sandwich is coming. I heard it comes with optimization for dual core and hardware acceleration. Desire S will fall behind then.
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I had 3 O2Xs before I got so sick of them that I demanded a different phone. Got the DS instead.
Yeas, they're powerful, but my word the software is terrible!

mikeyd85 said:
I had 3 O2Xs before I got so sick of them that I demanded a different phone. Got the DS instead.
Yeas, they're powerful, but my word the software is terrible!
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That is what is preventing me from buying it. If only they had released the upgrade and it was better ! How does it look with latest CM ? On the other hand Sense 3.0 wont be completely supported on Desire S so it'l probably be last to get Ice Cream Sandwich.

if u have enough money,buy LG 2X.

prince87 said:
That is what is preventing me from buying it. If only they had released the upgrade and it was better ! How does it look with latest CM ? On the other hand Sense 3.0 wont be completely supported on Desire S so it'l probably be last to get Ice Cream Sandwich.
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I never hacked it due to it being dodgy.

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ice cream?

so hearing the rumors of a new nexus coming with ice cream does that mean us current nexus s users especially the 4g won't get the ice cream update? id like to think the phone will be supported for awhile yet?
fixxxer2008 said:
so hearing the rumors of a new nexus coming with ice cream does that mean us current nexus s users especially the 4g won't get the ice cream update? id like to think the phone will be supported for awhile yet?
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Of course our beloved phone will get the latest updates, at least for 18 months after the release. Nexus One already has the Gingerbread update, why wouldn't we get Ice cream Sandwich?
You can sleep tight, our Nexus S will continue to be supported for quite some time
treUse said:
Of course our beloved phone will get the latest updates, at least for 18 months after the release. Nexus One already has the Gingerbread update, why wouldn't we get Ice cream Sandwich?
You can sleep tight, our Nexus S will continue to be supported for quite some time
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mostly because i heard you will need a dual core to run it and our phones do not have that.
that's typical marketing bull ****. They said the same thing about gingerbread and my HTC CDMA hero is running it faster than the original 1.6.
Google never said that any newer version of android will need dual core. This is just what all the manufacturers would like you to believe so you buy into the hype and spend money for a new phone.
I bet you, all Nexus line phones will get ice cream sandwich before the SDK is even posted.
obsanity said:
that's typical marketing bull ****. They said the same thing about gingerbread and my HTC CDMA hero is running it faster than the original 1.6.
Google never said that any newer version of android will need dual core. This is just what all the manufacturers would like you to believe so you buy into the hype and spend money for a new phone.
I bet you, all Nexus line phones will get ice cream sandwich before the SDK is even posted.
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good to know!
fixxxer2008 said:
so hearing the rumors of a new nexus coming with ice cream does that mean us current nexus s users especially the 4g won't get the ice cream update? id like to think the phone will be supported for awhile yet?
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Google has been courting both HTC and LG for the next Nexus device. I posted a link to HTC's candidate on another thread. I know a lot of people will be disappointed if we dont get it but the NS4G is only weeks old the device itself is going on 6 months ...ours is just a refresh with a 4G radio. That being said i still think most 1ghz processor/512mb + devices should see the update. Eventhough at launch it wasnt the best speced device available. (A lot of the reason N1 users didnt jump ship for it and the reason we dont have the following of the N1 imo.)But all the reports from Google IO/CNET say its to bridge the gap between handsets and tabs. I know it stings but our device is dated already I'm not saying its a lack luster device but...It's not like the N1 which is still comparable to a majority of high end handsets available. The Nexus S just didn't make the evolutionary jump as far as the N1 did IMO. But time will tell I guess.
ICS info...
http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=20062119&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-266
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I will upgrade regardless. The Nexus S is an excellent device, but I could use more RAM.
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Free memory and future OS updates

Hey guys just wondering what you guys think the longevity will be on the 2x considering it has a paltry 512mb of ram. Do you think 512mb will be enough to run ice cream smoothly? It's a shame to have this device with such awesome hardware all around but skimming on ram. I'm hoping we will see ice cream without issues. Thoughts?
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Ice cream? Last update we will probably get, will be official gb.
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I think that we'll at least see a port of ice cream sandwich, although the memory really limits the possibility of a smooth running OS given all the supposed features of it
i dont think 512mb ram is going to be a barrier for Ice cream honeycomb runs fine on 512mb.
It'll work on 512MB of ram.
I think GPU on older handsets will not like it when ICS comes out. G2x users will be just fine.
Cool good to know. Thanks for replies. It really is a shame LG limited the memory this devices hardware could go past ice cream if not for the memory limit. Of course that's what they want, us to keep buying!!!
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The Nexus S will get IceCream, and thus we will too. Tegra2 seems to be the hit marker. All of the tablets are Tegras and phones too. So we will be supported even if we don't get it officially.
The point of IceCream is to merge the Tablet and Phone paths into one (auto-sensing screen resolutions and more GPU acceleration).
Supposedly IceCream is 2.4 but tablets wouldn't move in that direction... unless they have IceCream 2.4 as a stepping stone and have 4.0 (JellyBean?)

Ice Cream update ? What and when to expect ?

So I have been reading the last 6 months about the supposed biggest update for Android ever = Ice Cream Sandwich. I have a few questions.
- What OS # will it be ? 4.0 ?
- What's approx release date ? This fall on the next Nexus device ?
- When will other current phones get Ice Cream ?
- Is it really going to be the mind blowing incredible update they it is ? Completely change Android radically with massive improvements and new ways of doing things ?
There was lots of hype last year before Gingerbread, saying it would be a big update, and change the look of the UI and be totally fresh. But to me its barely any different than Froyo.
Anything else ?
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wow, surprised that 71 people have viewed this thread, but none of them have a responded ?
I thought this site was for [H]ard Geeks only ? I am sure one of you knows something more in detail about the next big Android update ?
Ice Cream Sandwich will be Android 4.0.
It will bring a Honeycomb-style UI to ALL android devices - no more phone vs tablet OSes. This also means no more hardware buttons - they're going to be onscreen like Honeycomb.
The first 4.0 Device is expected to be the Nexus Prime, a most-likely Samsung phone with a 4.3ish" screen to be released in the fall of this year.
Some (possibly many) Honeycomb and Gingerbread devices will be upgraded to ICS.
That answer your question?
Most people are as clueless as you are. Not much info is known except it's supposed to be basically GB and HC merged for use on phones and the new Nexus one will be the first to start it off supposedly sometime towards the end of the year.
mtmerrick said:
Ice Cream Sandwich will be Android 4.0.
It will bring a Honeycomb-style UI to ALL android devices - no more phone vs tablet OSes. This also means no more hardware buttons - they're going to be onscreen like Honeycomb.
The first 4.0 Device is expected to be the Nexus Prime, a most-likely Samsung phone with a 4.3ish" screen to be released in the fall of this year.
Some (possibly many) Honeycomb and Gingerbread devices will be upgraded to ICS.
That answer your question?
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i hope that there won't be onscreen buttons, i hope there will be gestures..
swiping with two fingers down for home or something. so we dont loose any screen size for the buttons, on screen or not, they waste space on the screen
or maybe something like Zmooth in the market, where you got a small area to make gestures to simulate the buttons
i rly rly hope that they will implement something like this, and not just onscreen buttons..
So the Nexus-Prime will be the debut device for Android 4.0 Ice Cream.
If it is made by Samsung, curious how much better spec'd the Prime will be over the upcoming Galaxy S2 + ?
And I heard a rumor that Google wants to release this new Nexus earlier than the normal Christmas time, but try and compete with iPhone5 with an October launch ? Do you realistically see that happening ?
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Zorachus said:
So the Nexus-Prime will be the debut device for Android 4.0 Ice Cream.
If it is made by Samsung, curious how much better spec'd the Prime will be over the upcoming Galaxy S2 + ?
And I heard a rumor that Google wants to release this new Nexus earlier than the normal Christmas time, but try and compete with iPhone5 with an October launch ? Do you realistically see that happening ?
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This is a likely idea if I were Google.
really lookin forward to this. it looks the business.
I waiting for it
I hope at least most popular devices like SGS will get update, maybe xda-forum will not disappoint
Zorachus said:
So the Nexus-Prime will be the debut device for Android 4.0 Ice Cream.
If it is made by Samsung, curious how much better spec'd the Prime will be over the upcoming Galaxy S2 + ?
And I heard a rumor that Google wants to release this new Nexus earlier than the normal Christmas time, but try and compete with iPhone5 with an October launch ? Do you realistically see that happening ?
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i definitely hope it will be released around the iphone5 time..
and hey, the nexus one was the better twin of the htc desire, the nexus S is the better twin of the galaxy S. why shouldnt the nexus prime be the better twin of the galaxy SII+?^^
I'm reading some stuff about ICS and i think that this release it will have the following specs optimized:
-Jit
-A new UI that fits on smartphones and tabblets,
-An optimized kernel
-A new way of interatcion with market and the other produtcts of google.
Will it support duel-core smartphones..? And if so, anyone knows how it will do it?
hope we'll get it soon
i wait it so long
One answer to all the questions you asked, no one knows
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Google has not given any information about ICS. Guess they will hold an event to give all ins and outs just like they did with Honeycomb. Rumours are by the way that there are multiple ICS devices coming out at the same time in fall/winter. (LG, Samsung, HTC, Motorola, Sony)
I hope that the on-screen buttons are not a design requirement for devices running ICS. It would be frustrating to not be able to get CM8 on my Tbolt.
I hadn't heard about the hardware buttons being gone, that's a shame...would it be the soft touch screened like I have on my DInc (which I wouldn't classify as hardware like say, on the Droid X) or just button screens drawn in the actual viewed screen?
So the Dual-core processor isn't a minimum hardware requirement .. thank god !

So now we wait.....

What for?
Ice Cream Sandwich of course!
Release date is Q4 this year from Google.
Anyone know if it will work on our G2x's? It is 'supposed' to run on 'all' platforms!
Let the discussion begin!
DB
We still waiting for a finished gingerbread
I dont even see ice cream sandwich in my future with this phone
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Bored, are we? Why speculate on something that may or may not see the light of day for the G2x - I doubt the phone will still be in use when Android 10000.9 hits.
Gingerbread just hit and its not even a final release. Lets get GB 100% before we start *****ing and complaining about it not being able to boil water and pleasure the hamsters.
...on another note, I still await the day Android has half the media codex as Windows Mobile. I miss CorePlayer. These crappy media players for Android are a real let down.
Im actually pretty sure that Icecream sandwich will come to our phone through CyanogenMod 8. CM7 was supported on this phone pretty much from the get go and I doubt they would drop support so quickly.
jrharvey said:
Im actually pretty sure that Icecream sandwich will come to our phone through CyanogenMod 8. CM7 was supported on this phone pretty much from the get go and I doubt they would drop support so quickly.
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I am sure! I have GB running, and it seems to be running well. No problems installing, no other problems found so far.
Wish I could Skype with the cameras, but that is about all of my annoyances. Very happy with the phone, very happy with the GB OS. There maybe an update that makes it even better, but still...... ICS seems to be in our future!
DB
dabajan said:
I am sure! I have GB running, and it seems to be running well. No problems installing, no other problems found so far.
Wish I could Skype with the cameras, but that is about all of my annoyances. Very happy with the phone, very happy with the GB OS. There maybe an update that makes it even better, but still...... ICS seems to be in our future!
DB
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Dude, they haven't even released an official version of the Gingerbread and you're thinking of ICS? Let's see how the Gingerbread will go down and then maybe think about ICS.
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We have such little ram, I can't imagine it would be a pleasant experience.
You don't wanna know where this was sent from.
mmapcpro said:
We have such little ram, I can't imagine it would be a pleasant experience.
You don't wanna know where this was sent from.
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yep, I'm always thinking about what a complete waste this phone really is. Released with froyo, no dual core support drivers are crap and when/if we do ever get a fully functional gingerbread it will be at the end of its cycle and never really get its dual core support. Lg purposely gimped it with 512mb ram. A real shame. I fully expect to not ever see an official ICS release. All these dual cores being released with gingerbread ram requirements are going to be put to waste.
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After this am sticking to the nexus line unless LG makes it then ile run away to samsung or Htc
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mr mystery said:
yep, I'm always thinking about what a complete waste this phone really is. Released with froyo, no dual core support drivers are crap and when/if we do ever get a fully functional gingerbread it will be at the end of its cycle and never really get its dual core support. Lg purposely gimped it with 512mb ram. A real shame. I fully expect to not ever see an official ICS release. All these dual cores being released with gingerbread ram requirements are going to be put to waste.
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I honestly think 512mb of ram isn't a requirement for ICS. If that's the case then the Nexus S and Nexus One (which both have 512mb of ram) will be left in the past and I don't think Google is ready to stop yet. I foresee at least one more major update for the Nexus S (ICS) and then maybe Google will have more strict requirements. I think Google is more big on software rather than hardware. As for the G2x receiving ICS officially that will most likely not happen, especially since the G2x didn't make the expected sales LG were going for. Remember majority equals priority for these big name company's and majority don't own a G2x. Majority switched to the Sensation or whatever even exchange they can get. This will be my first and last LG phone unless the next line of Nexus is with LG (I hope its either HTC or Samsung for Super Amoled screen).
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i talked to a guy today, who said he overheard someone on an airplane bound for zimbabwe, that he heard from his girlfriend in argentina that ice cream sandwhich would be out by end of sept. for the g2x. woohoo!!!!!!!!!!!
I dunno where you get your info from, but they are wrong! I was told by Santa Clause, who heard it from the Easter Bunny, who won the info in a bet with a leprechaun that was running away from a unicorn while chasing the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, that Ice Cream Sandwich won't be available on the G2X until at least winter.
I ate an ice cream sandwich today...way better than gingerbread.

ICE Cream sandwich ??

Is there any conformation that LG Optimus 3d will get the next version of android. If yes then when ?
OMG!!we are waiting for Gingerbread and you're thinking about IC
Some rumors say that the update will be IS and no more gingerbread.. im not sure though
You can make sure that even in unofficially, the ice cream sandwich will exist for o3d. I know it because the omap4430 will be the ooficial chipset for ICS.
at this rate, we get icecream on 2013
lordsyre27 said:
Some rumors say that the update will be IS and no more gingerbread.. im not sure though
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absolutely wrong rumors...i'll receive gingerbread beta ROM in mid october.
No way will we get IS from LG because it wont even be on the optimus 3d 2
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I am sure that we will get the update because it is the update that will give the full power of the device as ICS will support dual cores fully, so with dual core and dual channel we will get much much better performance. The question is when? Actually LG should know that if they want to success in smartphones market, they should give a good support and they should beat all other companies, sonyericsson learned the lesson from their experience with X10, now they are on the top of companies that give the best support for their devices, I hope that LG learns the lesson and became the first company that rolls out ICS update(Which is not expected ).
crime_of_heart said:
You can make sure that even in unofficially, the ice cream sandwich will exist for o3d. I know it because the omap4430 will be the ooficial chipset for ICS.
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Actually, its going to be the newer Omap4460.
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Actually, its going to be the newer Omap4460.
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Well, they are almost the same hardware...
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I think they should ditch Ginger bread and give us IS . .. . . .. . .
" does any one know if there's going to be proxy support in IS "???
nic85 said:
absolutely wrong rumors...i'll receive gingerbread beta ROM in mid october.
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Isn't it a bit late for LG too still be on a beta of Gingerbread in October. You would have thought they would be way past that stage by now. It'll take even longer for it to be released now.
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Some rumors say that the update will be IS and no more gingerbread.. im not sure though
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It would make a lot more sense for LG just to go straight to Ice Cream Sandwich as they've left Gingerbread so late to be released.
I think it would be very very poor of LG if they don't even bother to release Ice Cream Sandwich at all. Do they want there reputation to go down even more.
dinoric81 said:
Isn't it a bit late for LG too still be on a beta of Gingerbread in October. You would have thought they would be way past that stage by now. It'll take even longer for it to be released now.
It would make a lot more sense for LG just to go straight to Ice Cream Sandwich as they've left Gingerbread so late to be released.
I think it would be very very poor of LG if they don't even bother to release Ice Cream Sandwich at all. Do they want there reputation to go down even more.
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I totally agree with that. If they are not able to release the GB this month, it's better to drop everything and start with the IC update.
It's been said that Google will release the update on Q4 which is very close now, so LG' better put themselves together and work harder, otherwise next time I buy a phone it won't be from LG.
Dear Friends,
Lg O3D is very smooth and 3D is really great with stock rom and even faster with custom roms. I am already satisfied with Froyo since i can run almost all the apps but some games related GB and some frontcam based apps. Yes, GB or ICS are really welcome but i can live with Froyo since not so much complains on performance and usage...
Kind regards
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