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[Q] please post your quadrant score

I saw a store rep demo'ed it and got 2700, and the 3D got whopping 100+fps on "walking up room" part.
It is exceptional.

mingkee said:
I saw a store rep demo'ed it and got 2700, and the 3D got whopping 100+fps on "walking up room" part.
It is exceptional.
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I ran the first quadrant within thirty minutes of getting the phone, and it scored 2554 or something like that.
Just ran one and scored... 2463

you have to realize this is the same chip as the XOOM and Atrix but its powering a lower resolution so the quadrant scores will be higher BUT you're at a lower resolution. I have a Xoom and it gets 1800 while this gets 2500. I'd rather have a higher resolution than a higher score. Still you shouldn't have any problems playing games on here.

Consecutive runs with no tweaking at all, background sync on and heavy live wallpaper running.
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It's a 3000 phone, not a 2700 phone...

These scores mean nothing except its a very fast phone. People shouldn't get hung up on benchmarks so much.
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mobilehavoc said:
These scores mean nothing except its a very fast phone. People shouldn't get hung up on benchmarks so much.
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Nobody seems to be getting hung up in this thread?

mobilehavoc said:
These scores mean nothing except its a very fast phone. People shouldn't get hung up on benchmarks so much.
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After scoring 1700 with my Legend with data2ext, I realized that Quadrant scores don't necessarily don't mean much. What I want to see is how much this phone scores in GLBenchmark.
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mobilehavoc said:
These scores mean nothing except its a very fast phone. People shouldn't get hung up on benchmarks so much.
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I don't get your point. How does it mean nothing but also means it's fast? It's a benchmark test. The point of it is to gauge performance, nothing more. Would you have bought one if it scored 850? After all... its a meaningless number.

djmcnz said:
Consecutive runs with no tweaking at all, background sync on and heavy live wallpaper running.
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It's a 3000 phone, not a 2700 phone...
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This is the G2X forum so I think we want scores from that phone only not the O2X.
Also, 3000 + with no tweaking? Really? Is this with stock rom? If not I belive a non stock rom constitutes tweaking.

atkhobby said:
This is the G2X forum so I think we want scores from that phone only not the O2X.
Also, 3000 + with no tweaking? Really? Is this with stock rom? If not I belive a non stock rom constitutes tweaking.
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It's the same hardware. The benchmarks will be the same except for any software quirks. Not sure about tweaking, I interpret that to mean "optimising for benchmarks". The only real alternative rom available is Paul's and all he's really done is turn the engineering code off, not really a tweak. Nevertheless, I expect the G2x won't be encumbered by these LG oversights (hope?) so should bench around 3000 out of the box.
The point I was making was perfectly relevant for this thread I think?

djmcnz said:
It's the same hardware. The benchmarks will be the same except for any software quirks. Not sure about tweaking, I interpret that to mean "optimising for benchmarks". The only real alternative rom available is Paul's and all he's really done is turn the engineering code off, not really a tweak. Nevertheless, I expect the G2x won't be encumbered by these LG oversights (hope?) so should bench around 3000 out of the box.
The point I was making was perfectly relevant for this thread I think?
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I don't think there's any problem with you adding the comparative benchmarks from the O2x to the discussion. However, I DO think you should have been very clear about what those benchmarks were from so people aren't wondering why their phone out of the box isn't performing as well as yours.
Also, I'm still not entirely clear from your response. Are you running a custom rom or not?

MWBehr said:
I don't think there's any problem with you adding the comparative benchmarks from the O2x to the discussion. However, I DO think you should have been very clear about what those benchmarks were from so people aren't wondering why their phone out of the box isn't performing as well as yours.
Also, I'm still not entirely clear from your response. Are you running a custom rom or not?
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I'd hate for anyone to mmisinterpret, I'm running stock LG ROM with no engineering code. What I mean by that is that it's basic Google code but it *does* include the LG framework, so probably slower than stock Android.
Edit: It would be clear to even a casual observer from the screen shots that it was not stock Froyo.

djmcnz said:
I'd hate for anyone to mmisinterpret, I'm running stock LG ROM with no engineering code. What I mean by that is that it's basic Google code but it *does* include the LG framework, so probably slower than stock Android.
Edit: It would be clear to even a casual observer from the screen shots that it was not stock Froyo.
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I think it was the "no tweaks" part that was confusing. I'm also wondering if the G2x will suffer from the same engineering code issue that the O2x has. Originally I thought we would be getting AOSP, but apparently it's still LG manipulated, just without their launcher and probably a few other things.

MWBehr said:
I think it was the "no tweaks" part that was confusing. I'm also wondering if the G2x will suffer from the same engineering code issue that the O2x has. Originally I thought we would be getting AOSP, but apparently it's still LG manipulated, just without their launcher and probably a few other things.
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Oh? That's quite interesting news to me, thanks. That's a bit of a bummer actually that its not ASOP, I was looking forward to that. Let's hope the cut is shallow and easy to clean.
I hear CM7 is running on x2x so this all may become moot?

Sorry, I didn't read further.. I see the answers here in the forum. Please ignore this post
djmcnz said:
Consecutive runs with no tweaking at all, background sync on and heavy live wallpaper running.
It's a 3000 phone, not a 2700 phone...
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Just curious, how did you get the black status bar at the top of your phone with the blue icons... Cause I want to do that with mine asap. Thanks

luckycook82 said:
Just curious, how did you get the black status bar at the top of your phone with the blue icons... Cause I want to do that with mine asap. Thanks
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In this case you just need to take the png files from the European 2x framework-res.apk and use them to replace the equivalent in the US 2x. Always backup first. /offtopic

djmcnz said:
In this case you just need to take the png files from the European 2x framework-res.apk and use them to replace the equivalent in the US 2x. Always backup first. /offtopic
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Can you do a bench on Nenamark? Curious to see what the FPS is on that test?

jlevy73 said:
Can you do a bench on Nenamark? Curious to see what the FPS is on that test?
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Just one run...

quadrant score
My quadrant score with pauls modaco rom is 3200+ which i am extremely happy with. on stock rom i was getting 26-2700.

>_<
O2x owners get the hell out of our forum! Your devices are programmed differently than ours, you've most likely tweaked your devices in some way (who comes to XDA and does not do so?), and you're confusing the situation.
Out of the box, the G2x from T-MOBILE USA scores about 2400-2500 on Quadrant. End of story.

Just something for you Quadrant lovers to think about

Found and interesting article and i thought i'd throw it out there. Basically when it comes to quadrants you will have two very polarizing point of views. You will have those that LOVE the program and they must test everything. And those that swear never to use it. But i found an interesting command line from the CMD prompt.
Code:
mount -t tmpfs tmpfs /data/data/com.aurorasoftworks.quadrant.ui.standard
Long story short it mounts the Quadrant Standard application on the RAM of the phone so you can get a true reading. Since the I/O is what bottle necks everything
I ran three test with the QS after three test i got a high of 2528, and a low of 1918. 610 point difference. Not to shabby for running CM7N75 O/C'd to 1516 with a performance governor
Then i mounted QS on the RAM of the phone and ran three test. The highest being 2997 and the lowest being 2785. 212 point difference.
just throwing out some food for thought.

Why do people always cry about Quadrant? those lil silly numbers means nothing I love how all the idiots who review the roms and make videos always do it and gives general public this idea that its real.
5th March 2011 said:
As I said before as syntactic benchmark means nothing as it does not translate in to real world performance. If someone wanted to really inflate it lol they wouldn't have to do much other than allocate it on tfs or ram as they will get higher score on I/O and R/W which will inflate the score which is very easy to spot as its never consistent with regular.
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UsrBkp said:
Why do people always cry about Quadrant? those lil silly numbers means nothing I love how all the idiots who review the roms and make videos always do it and gives general public this idea that its real.
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first and foremost - personal attacks aren't needed, wanted, or warranted.

I am sorry if you thought I personally attacked you but I assure you that was not the case. As I was speaking more in general, but what I said still stands.

UsrBkp said:
I am sorry if you thought I personally attacked you but I assure you that was not the case. As I was speaking more in general, but what I said still stands.
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I know you weren't coming after me. But still in general. We are here to help one another and expand horizons. Not belittle each other.

UsrBkp said:
Why do people always cry about Quadrant? those lil silly numbers means nothing I love how all the idiots who review the roms and make videos always do it and gives general public this idea that its real.
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I personally don't use quadrant, but any time someone talks about performance they can either post quadrant/linpack results, or they can say "it's really fast." You can't call someone who posts quadrant results an idiot unless you call anyone who has ever commented on a phone's performance an idiot. We talk about this stuff all the time, no need to demean anyone unless you have the one-stop end all of performance gauges.

I love it when people talk and talk and talk but they never listen. As once again the message was lost, which still exist on the original message. I don't know where he got the idea I was attacking him as that maybe some type of paranoia or delusion.
darinmc that will never happen due to the different hardware archstructure. Even when device is using ARMv7 the instruction set is interpreted differently from manufacture to manufacture. Great example is Snapdragon vs Hummingbird where NEON is utilized to improve the IOPs. If its allocated on top of davlik it can be cheated its simple as that.

UsrBkp said:
I love it when people talk and talk and talk but they never listen. As once again the message was lost, which still exist on the original message. I don't know where he got the idea I was attacking him as that maybe some type of paranoia or delusion.
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Sorry for the typo
i guess that " n't " means alot. Sorry again.

Quadrant has become very popular with people to see where their phones stand performance wise, but at times I find it not to be the most accurate...Unlike Neocore or Linpack which I think are better ways to test GPU/CPU instead. The scoring system may need some work to make it balanced. Personally I think it needs work, earlier I tried Faux's Ginger rom and it scored about the same as the stock MT4G rom...This is clearly odd since the ginger is lighter and actually has a much much smoother experience and higher response times. Quadrant doesnt deal with real world usage. Feel free to disagree if you feel differently.

how about smartbench, is that any better than quadrant?

clarknick27 said:
how about smartbench, is that any better than quadrant?
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From what I seen Quadrant favors Snapdragon while Smartbench favors Hummingbird. But try GLBenchmark thats what we mostly use as its more comprehensive.
"As I said before as syntactic benchmark means nothing as it does not translate in to real world performance." - HKM

UsrBkp said:
From what I seen Quadrant favors Snapdragon while Smartbench favors Hummingbird. But try GLBenchmark thats what we mostly use as its more comprehensive.
"As I said before as syntactic benchmark means nothing as it does not translate in to real world performance." - HKM
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thanks Ill give it a shot

UsrBkp said:
From what I seen Quadrant favors Snapdragon while Smartbench favors Hummingbird. But try GLBenchmark thats what we mostly use as its more comprehensive.
"As I said before as syntactic benchmark means nothing as it does not translate in to real world performance." - HKM
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Hahahaha, where have you been? Thought you retire drop by Sensation section help me out with the SamSux troll over there
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epsix said:
Hahahaha, where have you been? Thought you retire drop by Sensation section help me out with the SamSux troll over there
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LOL I see people still recognize me. I mean hopefully "they" don't know you know who, as ill try to keep low profile for now. Only reason I came back was due to the recent interest in "fail-pu" which I was trying to shed some lights in here few months back and got myself you know what in CM7NB thread. Hopefully "they" don't go crazy and start issuing you know what as originally ordered by the 2 heads. I am sure MT4G community will suffer if they do it, I mean here I hacked the mmcblk and posted the info and risked my device to help others yet Mr New.Sheriff wanted to show himself as the big man. Oooh well ill help ya much as I can and look in to the Sensation section.

What makes you think that mounting the application in RAM (thus minimizing I/O interactions) gives you a "true reading"? It's not like all your applications are stored in RAM. They access the file system also. So the speed of your phone's filesystem obviously affects the overall speed of the phone and should be included in a good benchmark. Unless you're only interested in comparing CPU/GPU speeds.

sundayhustler said:
What makes you think that mounting the application in RAM (thus minimizing I/O interactions) gives you a "true reading"? It's not like all your applications are stored in RAM. They access the file system also. So the speed of your phone's filesystem obviously affects the overall speed of the phone and should be included in a good benchmark. Unless you're only interested in comparing CPU/GPU speeds.
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I don't think anyone in this thread said allocating it to tfs gives true reading. All the OP was doing was posting how one can easily hack the score. Its which we known ages ago but the point was when you make an standard everyone must follow it. So obviously if you allocate the whole ROM in RAM instead of NAND or SDCard the IOPs will always be higher.
If its software it can be altered simple as that and someone will always do so and try to pretend they have the legit score but for people like me we can easily tell what is real and what is fake. The legit max score verified by me was 3618 I think without any type of hack all I did was strip the rom and made it cleaner. Which you folks can get around 3200-3400 using AOSP with no problem. Now if you scoring 3800-4000 then well you know whats going on. I am not going to name folks but come on they aint fooling anyone.

neidlinger said:
Found and interesting article and i thought i'd throw it out there. Basically when it comes to quadrants you will have two very polarizing point of views. You will have those that LOVE the program and they must test everything. And those that swear never to use it. But i found an interesting command line from the CMD prompt.
Code:
mount -t tmpfs tmpfs /data/data/com.aurorasoftworks.quadrant.ui.standard
Long story short it mounts the Quadrant Standard application on the RAM of the phone so you can get a true reading. Since the I/O is what bottle necks everything
I ran three test with the QS after three test i got a high of 2528, and a low of 1918. 610 point difference. Not to shabby for running CM7N75 O/C'd to 1516 with a performance governor
Then i mounted QS on the RAM of the phone and ran three test. The highest being 2997 and the lowest being 2785. 212 point difference.
just throwing out some food for thought.
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Off topic, but what font are you using in those screenies? And a link maybe?

UsrBkp said:
darinmc that will never happen due to the different hardware archstructure. Even when device is using ARMv7 the instruction set is interpreted differently from manufacture to manufacture. Great example is Snapdragon vs Hummingbird where NEON is utilized to improve the IOPs. If its allocated on top of davlik it can be cheated its simple as that.
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That was pretty much my point, that an end-all doesn't exist. I'm no android pro, just think that if nothing can define performance then everything is game. It's all subjective anyway. My phone, for instance, is really really really fast. Yours is probably just really fast. Mine is 2 really's faster. It's how I roll.

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That was pretty much my point, that an end-all doesn't exist. I'm no android pro, just think that if nothing can define performance then everything is game. It's all subjective anyway. My phone, for instance, is really really really fast. Yours is probably just really fast. Mine is 2 really's faster. It's how I roll.
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lol and that kind of the reason is why we have Quadrant in first place. Its all about false sense of security as the owner of the device is just simply fooling themselves. Now I am not sure if you know as all chips are different which actually depends on each wafer. But in perfect world with same defect rate as 2 let say you and me both have same phone. You running ROM X1.0 and I am also running ROM X1.0 and with the same settings. Now if you score 100 and I score 105 thats discrepancy. For it to be truly applicable it has to yield the same result over and over. Now thinking it would yield different result is known as insanity unless your fan of quantum mechanics that is yet ironically do to that we have chips today lol.
Think of it as 2 Fords they both running in the same road same model and one of them goes ahead. They are still bound by the same hardware but do to other variables it yields different results. Now those variables are not always predefined and it can be altered without any hardware modifications. But for it to be standard it has to be same. Now if you also have a Ford but have 300mph v8 under the hood you just cheated and inflated the score.
I am not sure if what I am saying is making any sense to anyone but to think your MT4G is better than someone else's is just crazy lol good luck putting that on ebay/cl saying you scored +300points extra on quadrant than other owners see how that goes for ya IRL.

my 3800 quadrant phone sold for eleventy million dollars thank you very much (it came with a case).

CF Bench (More accurate benchmark)

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/cf-bench-for-android-devices/
Anyone check it out yet?
You gotta scroll all the way down in the results page to get your overall score.

i installed this program scored a 2210 not bad i guess
FBis251 said:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/cf-bench-for-android-devices/
Anyone check it out yet?
You gotta scroll all the way down in the results page to get your overall score.
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Apparently the dev just wants to get some initial data before tweaking the app. I think it'll eventually get to be more accurate than Quad. I saw a post about someone getting a 10k score with only a 1.5ghz OC using CM7 on a tablet... Yeah, made the dev post up a comment saying that he'd fix the bug... Haha.

[Q] Quadrant scores?

Hello. I've bought a nexus s a few days ago and I've started swapping roms.
My question is simple, how do people manage to get 4-5k quadrant scores?
Currently I'm using Pure Bionix 1.6 rom, but the maximum score I was able to get was around 3.3K.
Describe everything you do, from roms/kernels to apps closed etc.
Sorry if this is a newbie question

Install 1.6.1, then use SetCPU to OC the kernel.
That's how I achieved my 5300 quad.
You can also try other kernels as well.
YMMV

Use matrix rom amd just over clock abd run quadrant a few times back to back and you will hit 4500+
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cyanogenmod 7 + trinity 1.44
4500-5000

Oxygen 2.3.1 @ 1300Mhz ->> 4286, highest score for me with this ROM.
And I didn't do anything special to get this score, I only overclocked CPU.

Thanks for the answers. I've done as you've said krylon. I installed 1.6.1 and oced the cpu to 1540 1540 on demand, however the max score I was able to get was around 3400. Am I missing something?
I'm using adv task killer to kill all the running apps before the test.
My nexus s is an i9023 btw.

spartanpg said:
Thanks for the answers. I've done as you've said krylon. I installed 1.6.1 and oced the cpu to 1540 1540 on demand, however the max score I was able to get was around 3400. Am I missing something?
I'm using adv task killer to kill all the running apps before the test.
My nexus s is an i9023 btw.
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set setcpu to 1540 max/1540 low. bench four times in a row, throw out the first 2 results, the forth should be the highest.

That's what I'm doing atm, yet the max I get is 3400.
Me and my luck with cell phones

spartanpg said:
That's what I'm doing atm, yet the max I get is 3400.
Me and my luck with cell phones
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its possible that your phone doesnt like that high of a overclock. try trinity t144 kernel. also, have you updated to the most recent bionix?

I flashed the T144 kernel and the phone got a bit slower yet really stable. The thing is the scores went down a little bit, around 3250 which I already expected. Could it be the phone itself?
I've youtubed a bit to watch how other 4000+ runs went and on the first image teste (2d if I'm not mistaken) I'm obtaining a constant 27-28 fps rate, and that was the only difference.

No need to worry about that. Quadrant scores can be faked and really don't mean much when it comes down to it. It's all about the real world performance.

spartanpg said:
I flashed the T144 kernel and the phone got a bit slower yet really stable. The thing is the scores went down a little bit, around 3250 which I already expected. Could it be the phone itself?
I've youtubed a bit to watch how other 4000+ runs went and on the first image teste (2d if I'm not mistaken) I'm obtaining a constant 27-28 fps rate, and that was the only difference.
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are you using quadrant advanced or standard? if youre using quadrant advanced, could you provide a screenshot please. id really like to see the score breakdown. the score is really low. also, in the op of the Trinity thread in the development section is a dalvik-wiper.zip, would you flash it please, then try again.
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No need to worry about that. Quadrant scores can be faked and really don't mean much when it comes down to it. It's all about the real world performance.
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orgasms can be faked too, that doesnt mean anybody is faking there quadrant scores here. with such a low quadrant score for these kernels, i bet his real world performance is reduced also.

simms22 said:
orgasms can be faked too, that doesnt mean anybody is faking there quadrant scores here. with such a low quadrant score for these kernels, i bet his real world performance is reduced also.
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While not necessarily being faked you can't say that a test where you throw out the first three scores and then use the forth because it is always higher is terribly accurate or being honest. Just because you ran quadrant four times and got a score with 500 more points on the last test doesn't automatically mean your real world performance is that much better. Honestly it's just the Android equivlant of buying a really big truck to overcompensate for something else (not to mention the cause of people always asking these types of questions over and over).

So after searching around I found some1 in xda with a similar problem and I ended using this in the terminal:
su(press enter)
mount -o remount,noauto_da_alloc /data /data(press enter)
And believe it or not, after that I managed to get 4500 right away in standard quadrant 1.1.7. After closing apps and getting advanced quadrant 1.1.1, I managed to get 4900, which is more than fine for me. What I'd like to know is what exacly did that command do.
Regarding the dalvik-wiper.zip, I wasn't able to find it. Will it by any means increase the performance further?
Finally I'd like to ask two things:
1) How safe is it to run a Min 100 Max 1440 OC setting?
2) In case of warranty issues, will this fully revert the phone to the original (or updated from original) state? - http://nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-hacks/how-to-unroot-nexus-s-i9020ti9020ai9023/
Thanks for all the help so far

spartanpg said:
So after searching around I found some1 in xda with a similar problem and I ended using this in the terminal:
su(press enter)
mount -o remount,noauto_da_alloc /data /data(press enter)
And believe it or not, after that I managed to get 4500 right away in standard quadrant 1.1.7. After closing apps and getting advanced quadrant 1.1.1, I managed to get 4900, which is more than fine for me. What I'd like to know is what exacly did that command do.
Regarding the dalvik-wiper.zip, I wasn't able to find it. Will it by any means increase the performance further?
Finally I'd like to ask two things:
1) How safe is it to run a Min 100 Max 1440 OC setting?
2) In case of warranty issues, will this fully revert the phone to the original (or updated from original) state? - http://nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-hacks/how-to-unroot-nexus-s-i9020ti9020ai9023/
Thanks for all the help so far
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i didnt even consider that because its included in the bionix/trinity combo. but it does have to be included in a stock rom. whats odd is, how did you lose it
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onigiri1692 said:
While not necessarily being faked you can't say that a test where you throw out the first three scores and then use the forth because it is always higher is terribly accurate or being honest. Just because you ran quadrant four times and got a score with 500 more points on the last test doesn't automatically mean your real world performance is that much better. Honestly it's just the Android equivlant of buying a really big truck to overcompensate for something else (not to mention the cause of people always asking these types of questions over and over).
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you are in a way right and in a way youre wrong, im not going to argue the fact that all benchmarks are inaccurate. because they are. and ive proved it over and over again. BUT, that said.. its a good way to see where the phones performence is and where it should be(if youre not cheating), especially if youre a developer. for example, when morfic makes some changes in a kernel, we run benchmarks to see how and where that change effected the performance.

simms22 said:
you are in a way right and in a way youre wrong, im not going to argue the fact that all benchmarks are inaccurate. because they are. and ive proved it over and over again. BUT, that said.. its a good way to see where the phones performence is and where it should be(if youre not cheating), especially if youre a developer. for example, when morfic makes some changes in a kernel, we run benchmarks to see how and where that change effected the performance.
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I was just making the point that most of the super high quadrant scores are inflated and not very accurate, but I agree with you in that benchmarks are a good way to make general comparisons like the example you described, but it isn't an end all, be all. When it comes down to it real world, user experience in my opinion is what really matters.

onigiri1692 said:
I was just making the point that most of the super high quadrant scores are inflated and not very accurate, but I agree with you in that benchmarks are a good way to make general comparisons like the example you described, but it isn't an end all, be all. When it comes down to it real world, user experience in my opinion is what really matters.
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real world use is all that matters, period. but quadrants are still fun to run, as long as no body is cheating. speaking of, this is from a galaxy s 2 at 1.6ghz, the nexus s has officially been dethroned from the top of quadrant.. http://androidcommunity.com/samsung...-benchmarks-nearly-7800-in-quadrant-20111110/
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Any chance I could get these answered please? Would really apreciate it.
1) How safe is it to run a Min 100 Max 1440 OC setting?
2) In case of warranty issues, will this fully revert the phone to the original (or updated from original) state? - http://nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-hacks...0ti9020ai9023/

[Q] Fast, nominal, or slow cpu?

How do you tell if which type of cpu your phone has? I've looked and can't seem to find out how to check my phone to see which I have. My cpu always seems to run hot no matter what type of kernel I try, and I'm wondering if the cpu may be slow and not capable of tweaking.
Any help someone can give me would be great.

To find out which processor you have, use Terminal Emulator from the Play Store. Reboot then type this command:
su
dmesg | grep ACPU
Here's an explanation of what this means and also recommended voltage settings for each processor type courtesy of a very knowledgeable, helpful, and great kernel dev: Imoseyon. Any "thanks" goes to him and not me for providing all this info.
Post #1341, just read Imoseyon's response to me:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/31329-ke...11012/page__st__1340__p__1034933#entry1034933
Imoseyon post #1418 for recommended voltage settings per cpu type:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/31329-ke...-kernel-v16-11012/page__st__1410#entry1042976

This is the output I get from that command. How am I supposed to interpret this as fas, nominal, or slow?
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
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Try it again after rebooting, mine works each time
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crjjr said:
How do you tell if which type of cpu your phone has? I've looked and can't seem to find out how to check my phone to see which I have. My cpu always seems to run hot no matter what type of kernel I try, and I'm wondering if the cpu may be slow and not capable of tweaking.
Any help someone can give me would be great.
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Found it. For anyone else that may be looking, go to this site and follow the directions. You'll need terminal installed on your phone. It works on any GS3.
http://teamuscellular.com/Forum/top...eankernel-tw-jb-imoseyon-droidroidz-usc-v141/

Finally, it worked.
Is there a performance difference between a slow CPU, a nominal CPU, and a fast CPU?

BlueCross said:
Finally, it worked.
Is there a performance difference between a slow CPU, a nominal CPU, and a fast CPU?
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Not that I know of, you can run pretty much any kernel stock as well as adjust governors and io scheduler. The primary difference is in how much you can UC/OC or even UV/OV and how well your CPU can hold those tweaks without fear of bootlooping or instability. But as far as just flashing kernels and leaving them there, you're fine. Like I said, I'm basing this all off of what Imoseyon has said so he is WAY more knowledgeable in this area if you need additional input. This slow, nominal, fast cpu exists based on the manufacturer process so its not something you can adjust. It's permanently set with the cpu.

SlimSnoopOS said:
Not that I know of, you can run pretty much any kernel stock as well as adjust governors and io scheduler. The primary difference is in how much you can UC/OC or even UV/OV and how well your CPU can hold those tweaks without fear of bootlooping or instability. But as far as just flashing kernels and leaving them there, you're fine. Like I said, I'm basing this all off of what Imoseyon has said so he is WAY more knowledgeable in this area if you need additional input. This slow, nominal, fast cpu exists based on the manufacturer process so its not something you can adjust. It's permanently set with the cpu.
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The basis for the difference in CPUs is the same as car Manufacturing. Part's are divided by spec tolerances. The closer to spec is the difference. In car terms GM separates parts according to how close they are to spec. Fast would go in Cadillac, Nominal Buick and slow Chevrolet. They all use the same part just have closer spec tolerance. :laugh:

prdog1 said:
The basis for the difference in CPUs is the same as car Manufacturing. Part's are divided by spec tolerances. The closer to spec is the difference. In car terms GM separates parts according to how close they are to spec. Fast would go in Cadillac, Nominal Buick and slow Chevrolet. They all use the same part just have closer spec tolerance. :laugh:
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I can always count on this guy to drop some thorough knowledge.
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I tried this and got an error message :
sh: grep: not found
write: Broken pipe
I'm on stock rooted, and I granted the su permission.
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HeadlessPonch said:
I tried this and got an error message :
sh: grep: not found
write: Broken pipe
I'm on stock rooted, and I granted the su permission.
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Have to do immediately after a reboot and some custom boot animations will keep it from working.

prdog1 said:
Have to do immediately after a reboot and some custom boot animations will keep it from working.
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No custom animation. I got rid of my lock screen to get to my homescreen faster and added a shortcut to the terminal app. I started typing as soon as the app would let me and got the same error.

Your busybox install must be borked. Download busybox free from the playstore and do a "smart install"

prdog1 said:
The basis for the difference in CPUs is the same as car Manufacturing. Part's are divided by spec tolerances. The closer to spec is the difference. In car terms GM separates parts according to how close they are to spec. Fast would go in Cadillac, Nominal Buick and slow Chevrolet. They all use the same part just have closer spec tolerance. :laugh:
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As a general rule, CPUs that come off the same fab are tested and then placed into different "bins", based on how they perform at different speeds and voltages. The better performing "top bin", chips get rated and sold at the highest clock speed. The slower chips get a lower clock speed assigned, and are sold at a lower price.
This method works well for AMD and Intel, who both sell a wide range of clock speeds for a particular generation CPU at different price points. It eliminates waste by enabling them to sell the lower performing chips instead of rejecting or destroying them, and allows them to offer different price points which is beneficial from a marketing perspective.
With phones, the CPUs are often clocked the same (e.g. [email protected] 1.5 GHz), but the CPUs still range in capability depending on their mfg tolerances, and in the case of our Snapdragon S2s, they are tagged accordingly. Whether you end up with a slow or fast chip in your phone is totally random, but frequently your chances of getting a faster chip increase over time as the fab process is fine tuned, and chip yields go up.
That doesn't mean you can't get a fast CPU right off the bat. For example, I pre-ordered mine on day 1 (June 6th?) and still got a fast CPU.

x714x said:
Your busybox install must be borked. Download busybox free from the playstore and do a "smart install"
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That worked, thanks!
Now I know I'm nominal. The first line says "ACPU PVS: [1],FMAX[0]". It's different from the other 2 posted results in this thread (all 3 are actually different). What do those numbers mean?

I was lucky enough to have a fast CPU; which values on those charts do I want? I opened Kernel Turner and went to "Voltage" and it is a bunch of weird numbers--and I see something for "-1.5 across board," how many times should I hit that? I'm assuming that's how you undervolt.

Kelton Rivas said:
I was lucky enough to have a fast CPU; which values on those charts do I want? I opened Kernel Turner and went to "Voltage" and it is a bunch of weird numbers--and I see something for "-1.5 across board," how many times should I hit that? I'm assuming that's how you undervolt.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36743286

Would this apply for his aosp kernel as well? The 4.2 kernel?
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Hi,
First post in this forum in a long time. Or maybe ever.
Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, I'm new to this ROM, and had a stable one in my Thunderbolt, so was away from flashing for almost a year. Just got a vz S3, rooted it as soon as I got home, and after doing some research, decided on Liquid Smooth. Downloaded Liquid-JB-v2.1-Beta3.1-d2vzw this morning, so whatever the latest version as of this morning (Jan 23) is what I flashed. Also got the correct gapps. All went well, and so far, I like what I've seen. (Thanks, developers, this has been the EASIEST flash to a new rom I've ever done.
One problem, and I hope someone can point me in the right direction, as I'm googled out on trying to find a solution.
When I go to settings, performance, current, or, maximum CPU frequency, the highest it goes it 1512. The youtube videos on this show choices up to 1900.
Can anyone point me in the right direction on this?
Thank you.
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Just installed Setcpu, and it would not allow (nor show) any setting higher than 1512.
Thanks again for any insight.
tprophit said:
Hi,
First post in this forum in a long time. Or maybe ever.
Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, I'm new to this ROM, and had a stable one in my Thunderbolt, so was away from flashing for almost a year. Just got a vz S3, rooted it as soon as I got home, and after doing some research, decided on Liquid Smooth. Downloaded Liquid-JB-v2.1-Beta3.1-d2vzw this morning, so whatever the latest version as of this morning (Jan 23) is what I flashed. Also got the correct gapps. All went well, and so far, I like what I've seen. (Thanks, developers, this has been the EASIEST flash to a new rom I've ever done.
One problem, and I hope someone can point me in the right direction, as I'm googled out on trying to find a solution.
When I go to settings, performance, current, or, maximum CPU frequency, the highest it goes it 1512. The youtube videos on this show choices up to 1900.
Can anyone point me in the right direction on this?
Thank you.
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tprophit said:
Hi,
First post in this forum in a long time. Or maybe ever.
Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, I'm new to this ROM, and had a stable one in my Thunderbolt, so was away from flashing for almost a year. Just got a vz S3, rooted it as soon as I got home, and after doing some research, decided on Liquid Smooth. Downloaded Liquid-JB-v2.1-Beta3.1-d2vzw this morning, so whatever the latest version as of this morning (Jan 23) is what I flashed. Also got the correct gapps. All went well, and so far, I like what I've seen. (Thanks, developers, this has been the EASIEST flash to a new rom I've ever done.
One problem, and I hope someone can point me in the right direction, as I'm googled out on trying to find a solution.
When I go to settings, performance, current, or, maximum CPU frequency, the highest it goes it 1512. The youtube videos on this show choices up to 1900.
Can anyone point me in the right direction on this?
Thank you.
---------- Post added at 01:54 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:46 AM ----------
Just installed Setcpu, and it would not allow (nor show) any setting higher than 1512.
Thanks again for any insight.
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You need to run a custom kernel that is overclockable. The stock kernel on liquid isnt overclockable from what I remember.
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BlueCross said:
Would this apply for his aosp kernel as well? The 4.2 kernel?
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Ya, its hardware level so it doesnt make a difference what rom you are running.