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I'm torn between WM and Android devices

I figure this is the best place to ask for advice.
I fell in love with HTC/keyboard phones when I got an unlocked mda (i'm on att) a few years back. They keyboard and ruggedness of the phones (they've outlasted a few drops here and there) had won me over, especially after using an n95 briefly a few years ago. I got an 8525, and now I'm on a tilt (8925). I've always upgraded roms and liked trying new things, so I tried something new about a week ago.
I went the Android (ion) on sd card route, and loved it (but tried to go nand and it never worked correctly). My battery seems to last forever now (where a week ago, before I started using android, my battery was dying at around 6 pm), the speed of everything (the phone dialer seems to be running at light speed compared to winmo) and the touchscreen responds so much better. Even with the occasional freeze and crashes, I haven't gone back to winmo (except on the occasional restart and re-running haret)
It's time for a phone upgrade. I (briefly) had a tp2, but it still felt slow in winmo 6.5. And seeing how android isn't as well developed on it as it is on the kaiser, I'm looking at other options.
I'd like to keep att 3g, and have native android, AND a hardware keyboard. Does this exist? If i gave up a keyboard (though i don't really want to since I text a bit and surf the web a bit as well), are the newer touchscreens good/fast enough? I was looking at the Hero, and the ion/magic (which seem to be almost the same,though I like the price of the ion/magic), but maybe you guys can help me out? I have to go the Ebay route, seeing as how I'm stuck on att for another year (long story short, gave upgrade to family member, who has since screwed me on their end of the bargain) so I guess that's another thing to keep in mind. Help?

Depending on how much you want to spend will Ddepend on your options right now the only official android device for att with a keyboard is the backup nd I personally think it is horrible. You could spend the $529 and get an att Nexus One, which is only touch screen but is fast enough to handle input well. Plus with the many touchscreen keyboards out now it is pretty easy to transition to touchscreen. I just did this whole post using the swype keyboard and it is pretty fast and accurate. if you can hold off then there are gonna be many new handsets comming. Plus flashing new roms for android is highly addictive lol.

I just got the htc hd2 . the device is fantastic. the software blows donkey d....
In my opinion windows mobile 6.5 feels undeveloped . I know i probably havent figured it all out yet but its what i see so far.
So here I sit trying to make the best of this and hoping someone ports android over to the hd2.
thats my two cents.

If you want Android, then the Nexus is Awesome, Fast, Slim, Cool, etc. Try one out at a store to see if it fit's

i was almost ready to switch then i bought an lg expo. it is so sweet and mega fast.

Trust me, on a screen the size of 3.5+, you can type faster on a touchscreen than on a hardware keyboard

Telus Milestone is your best bet. And yes, you will have to buy it from ebay or some unofficial store.

I was a big winmo fan but they are dragging in the upgrade department.
6.5 was a minimal upgrade at best and 7 is limited on the multi-tasking front.
My son has a Motorola Droid and I really like the OS.
I'm headed for a Xperia X10 with a snapdragon processor but only after it comes to the US to support our 3G band.
That could be tomorrow or a year from now knowing SE's inability to get a device to market on time.

I'd really like to go with the nexus with it's seemingly ginormous screen (though everything has a ginormous screen compared to my tilt 1), but the $560 price tag (after taxes on the site) is quite a bit much to stomach.
I might look at the milestone, but I'm a little weary of motorola's quality, the diminutive size of the keyboard, and @ their price i'd rather stick to a touch screen only telus hero or magic.
Maybe I just need to win the lottery or knock over a bank...

crackness said:
I'd really like to go with the nexus with it's seemingly ginormous screen (though everything has a ginormous screen compared to my tilt 1), but the $560 price tag (after taxes on the site) is quite a bit much to stomach.
I might look at the milestone, but I'm a little weary of motorola's quality, the diminutive size of the keyboard, and @ their price i'd rather stick to a touch screen only telus hero or magic.
Maybe I just need to win the lottery or knock over a bank...
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I'd definitely go with the Nexus (If funds can afford), you think that it is too much now, but it is worth it when you get it (or so I've been told by... everyone).
I would sell my soul for a Nexus One, but I already sold it to Google in exchange for an extra 70mb in Gmail, should've waited

Looks like I'm getting either a HTC Desire or a X10 as wm & ms are starting to annoy me. Android just looks and feels so much better

Fallen Spartan said:
Looks like I'm getting either a HTC Desire or a X10 as wm & ms are starting to annoy me. Android just looks and feels so much better
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I switched from longtime wm user to android and have not looked back. It is stable, fast, smooth, cool and fun Good luck

WM for me
I am quite happy with WM6.5.3 on my Rhodium, it does all my business and personal stuff just as I like
But if for some reason I did want to switch from WM definitely 100% sure I´ll look into Android as my first choice

orb3000 said:
I am quite happy with WM6.5.3 on my Rhodium, it does all my business and personal stuff just as I like
But if for some reason I did want to switch from WM definitely 100% sure I´ll look into Android as my first choice
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Well, it's either that or iPhone OS/WebOS and we know which website doesn't support those

I've broken down and done it. Tally up one more order for a Google Nexus One with AT&T 3g bands. Now to wait impatiently until it comes in

crackness said:
I've broken down and done it. Tally up one more order for a Google Nexus One with AT&T 3g bands. Now to wait impatiently until it comes in
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If for some reason that only your god/non-existent being knows the reason why, you do not like the phone.... I'm ready for it

JAguirre1231 said:
Well, it's either that or iPhone OS/WebOS and we know which website doesn't support those
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Even if those were supported in XDA my choice wouldn´t change

From what I heard, AT&T's Backflip is ok. It's running Android as well as having a keyboard. The thing is that it's a Motorola. I believe this is Motorola's 2nd Android phone besides the Motorola Cliq (correct me if I'm wrong)

Kid Poker said:
From what I heard, AT&T's Backflip is ok. It's running Android as well as having a keyboard. The thing is that it's a Motorola. I believe this is Motorola's 2nd Android phone besides the Motorola Cliq (correct me if I'm wrong)
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Then you heard wrong. Not only is the phone running the second worst layer of ui for Android (it runs MotoBlur, the worst is TouchWiz), it does not use Google Search, it can't use apps outside of the market, it's made by Motorola, and it has the weirdest design of a phone I've ever seen.
And I'm pretty sure it is Motorola's 3 or 4, not sure if the Devour came out before it (I know the Droid and Cliq did though).

Crackness, you sound exactly like me when it comes to looking for a phone. I am on AT&T so I want to keep that, I want speed and the hardware keyboard is a must for me, well I have a solution for you : Motorola Backflip
Yes the design is odd, but truthfully once you hold it in your hands, it actually does make sense. True the Backflip is on Android 1.5 because of the MotorBlur but they are coming out with an update soon. Otherwise the phone is amazing. Fast and keyboard is great. Trust me, it is definitely something you should look at.

Help in Buying new Phone.

Hi Guys.
I need help in buying a new phone. I am using a Hyundai A 200 with winmo 5 and i have'nt had any problems with it except for its massive size and low battery life. I wanna go for a new smartphone so after a long research and review reading decided to go either with HTC, Samsung and Motorola. The devices i was satisfied with were HTC HD2, Samsung I8000 OMNIA 2 and Motorola Milestone (DROID).
Price wise HTC HD2 - 28k, Samsung Omnia 2 - 28k and Moto Milestone - 27.5k [Am from India].
A few days ago i visited a mobile shop for a hands on approach to clear my doubts and finally decide. I Liked all the three devices but obviously sided with the HTC HD2. Things that actually blowed my brains were the sheer screen size, responsiveness, capacitive touch screen, 1Ghz Processor & SENSE... Though the Touchwiz interface of Samsung and Android Of Moto were Good but HTC Hd2 was just awesome. It was when i came home and started reading reviews of HD2 in-depth that i realized its camera had a pinkish hue, the device hung up (getting up from sleep mode) etc, that was disappointing.
I dont wanna spend 34k and end up with a laggy phone. I also read that the codec support in OMNIA 2 was way better than in HTC HD2 (not and issue cos I can always convert it to suppored formats ). The guy from the mobile shop told me android sucked esp since file transfers over bluetooth were'nt possible (but later i read that rooting made that possible), and my friends told me that Applications couldn be installed on the SD card in android but i read in the forums yesterday that an app "app2sd" or something similar made this possible. I am open to both Win Mo and Android.
So now am really confused I want to know if the HTC HD2 has these flaws and if custom ROM's covered these flaws? Should I go for HTC or SAMSUNG or MOTO? Which one is really worth the money?
Am gonna use the device for reading e-books & lotsa documents (esp Word and excel files), listen to music and watch a few videos, Gaming (occasionally), as a portable camera and video recorder (shots are gonna be indoors mostly so if someone could give me the results of indoor shots it would be really appreciable) and calls, texts and mails, of course!
I also noticed the poll results for the Best HTC device of 2009 and HTC HD2 bags 46.90%
Everything is pointing toward HTC HD2, so if I get a positive outlook for owners i would go ahead with it or i have to look into the alternatives. so, Please do update me with your suggestions and views.
Also do let me know if I should consider some other device or wait for another few months if any better device is in the making
Thank you in advance.

Send me 20k U.S. and I'll hook you up with any phone you want, ha ha.
Nah, just messin.
Anyways, go with Android, man. I would be so pissed moving from Android to winmo. I like my apps too damn much. I think I'm breaking down and getting a nexus one. Even after I swore I'd never get anything without a physical keyboard again. =[

If you gonna be using Word and excel files alot then you probably want windows mobile...go with the hd2 and its suppose to be getting windows phone 7, which is suppose to be alot better than WM or thats what i hear...

Go for Leo definitely!

Thank You
Thank you so much for your suggestions and prompt replies guys....
Still i read that HD2 in plagued with software lags, Hang ups, and other random issues.... any solutions for these issues??? are they hardware related or software related??? what about the pink hue bug in the photos???

r3s-rt said:
Send me 20k U.S. and I'll hook you up with any phone you want, ha ha.
Nah, just messin.
Anyways, go with Android, man. I would be so pissed moving from Android to winmo. I like my apps too damn much. I think I'm breaking down and getting a nexus one. Even after I swore I'd never get anything without a physical keyboard again. =[
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Android's still got a lota snags right or thats what i understood after reading a lot of posts in this forum. Its Open source so we can expect nothing but the best and comparing it to the i phone or winmo doesnt do it any justice... Which is the better phone for the Android platform??? I was thinking of Se Xperia X10 or HTC Legend..... But after going through XperiaX10's wishlist i have second thoughts....

The Nexus is an awesome android device...and I don't have any snags that can't be tweeked

wow all the prices are very high.. you say HD2 cost still 34K which is circa 5900HKD here in Hong Kong the HD2 goes for 24.5K (4200HKD)
Anyhow as previously some mentioned if you need to sync with your PC and with Microsoft outlook for your PIM WM is the best.
Until now I can’t really see the advantages of Android over WM and especially Motorola which has not much devices on the market therefore it will be difficult to get support even here.
For my opinion it comes down to HD2 or Samsung. Between them I would choose HD2. However again for my opinion paying 34K for device that will not get an official upgrade is far too high.. I hope you guys going to not kill me but what is the price for Iphone???

galaxys said:
The Nexus is an awesome android device...and I don't have any snags that can't be tweeked
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I definitely agree but Nexus is being "thinned" for India.... I don know why we get all the Thinned and mini versions...

Bulldog said:
wow all the prices are very high.. you say HD2 cost still 34K which is circa 5900HKD here in Hong Kong the HD2 goes for 24.5K (4200HKD)
Anyhow as previously some mentioned if you need to sync with your PC and with Microsoft outlook for your PIM WM is the best.
Until now I can’t really see the advantages of Android over WM and especially Motorola which has not much devices on the market therefore it will be difficult to get support even here.
For my opinion it comes down to HD2 or Samsung. Between them I would choose HD2. However again for my opinion paying 34K for device that will not get an official upgrade is far too high.. I hope you guys going to not kill me but what is the price for Iphone???
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I got a cofirmation mail from my phone retailer that the price is actually 28 k and not 36 k as mentioned in their site....
Moto is out of my mind too... HTC legend and se Xperia x10 were taken up in favor of android but still HD2 kicks butt when it comes to screen size....
Iphone 3GS 32 GB is 39 k here....

Pink Hue camera issue...
i read in a lot of forums that the hdt hd2 is plagued by a pink hue in the pictures taken with its camera and few say that its a hardware issue and others say its a software issue any ideas on this???? in the support page of HTC this update [Update for HTC HD2 – Digital Picture Enhancement
This update for HTC HD2 ensures every picture is captured in the clearest digital quality. The HTC HD2 and its twin LED flash will take beautiful pictures so you can cherish your memories forever] is available is this for the correction of pink hue????

Considering exchanging Captivate for Xperia X10...

Hey, I was wondering if anyone else has thought about this too, but, since it's been less than 30 days since the launch of the captivate, we'd be able to exchange / return it for a full refund. The reason I'd consider it is because the new Sony Ericsson Xperia X10. It's not that the captivate is a bad phone or anything, (i love it!), it's just that this new Xperia X10 has some pretty killer specs and the stock sony skin looks pretty damn nice. 1ghz cpu, 8.1 mp camera w/ flash... I'm not sure what version of android it's launching with yet though...
Any thoughts?
TLDR, bigger, sexier phone from sony, still able to exchange.

It only has Android 1.6 on it...Which screams NO WAY to me...Sony should have been able to create a phone that could run at least the current version...so why didn't they?

fiendiish said:
It only has Android 1.6 on it...Which screams NO WAY to me...Sony should have been able to create a phone that could run at least the current version...so why didn't they?
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Well they haven't confirmed which OS it will run. The reason it takes so long for everyone to roll out new android OSs, is because they have to update their skins to match it, which is why we don't have 2.2 right now, because Samsung is wasting their time with touchwiz (which i hated and replaced)

The SE X10 is just another crippled qsd825X device, it stands no were near a galaxy S phone.

These types of threads are always good for a laugh. Usually the OP has already made up their mind. What you then have is two different groups of people responding. First group either tries to "help" the OP reconsider by bad mouthing their thinking or extoling the virtues of the current "flavor of the month" device. Then you have the second group of antagonists that simply want to discredit/embarass/harass the OP and insist he return the device imediately and just go away.
Of course the OP usually has an agenda also. Any way you slice it they are looking for a way to justify their decision. If they stay, they are happy knowing their initial decision was correct. If they go they can blame it on how bad the community treated them.
Always good for wasting away a few precious moments.

Maroon Mushroom said:
Hey, I was wondering if anyone else has thought about this too, but, since it's been less than 30 days since the launch of the captivate, we'd be able to exchange / return it for a full refund. The reason I'd consider it is because the new Sony Ericsson Xperia X10. It's not that the captivate is a bad phone or anything, (i love it!), it's just that this new Xperia X10 has some pretty killer specs and the stock sony skin looks pretty damn nice. 1ghz cpu, 8.1 mp camera w/ flash... I'm not sure what version of android it's launching with yet though...
Any thoughts?
TLDR, bigger, sexier phone from sony, still able to exchange.
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Where are these killer specs you speak of ? 1ghz snapdragon is old not to mention comes with slowest GPU , 8p camera is nothing new ... and if OS is 1.6 then its a major downgrade. Internal only 1GB of storage , can't play back MKVs.
Sony is way late to the game with this phone, no superAMOLED or somekind of high end LCD . It was suppose to be released 9 months ago, 9 MONTHS !

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=749689
Basically, you are coming to the Captivate forum for your opinion, so you are going to hear things slanted towards the (awesome) Captivate. that being said, the biggest issue right now facing the Captivate is it's GPS. When (not if) it gets fixed, it will be the best phone on AT&T's network, and perhaps the best current android. It's GPU is second to none, the hummingbird is slightly faster then last year's batch of snapdragons, it comes with a massive 16GB internal memory, the SAMOLED is great (though there is argument as to which screen is best, the new LCD HD, iphone's screen, or the SAMOLED).
The only hardware in which the captivate is lacking is the camera. However megapixel is not the end all be all. And the flash on a cell phone is next to worthless because it is not powerful enough to illuminate even a small room or remove red eye, so I don't consider it's lack of flash important.

X10 has been out in Europe for several months
I owned an X1, dont trust SE they will screw ya with the lack of software updates
X10 may never get 2.2, at least the Galaxy S phones are all GUARANTEED 2.2

I hate how everyone dismisses the flash on phone camera's. Yeah it can't light up a room but it can light up the face of my four friends staying a few feet away from it outside at night.

All I have to say is dont buy a phone with a Qualcomm processor in it. Just look at the HTC phones that pale in comparrison in terms of performance. Nuff said. The same company that made the humming bird processor made the Apple A4 processor.
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AllTheWay said:
The same company that made the humming bird processor made the Apple A4 processor.
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That would be Samsung.

I also owned a x10 looks sweet but 1.6os maybe 2.1 update and prob not 2.2. Screens nice same processor as n1 but the n1 is hella faster I currently also own the galaxy s i9000 euro version its super smooth and as fast if not faster than the n1 and its running 2.1 .
Also if your not into the touch wiz do what I did I put the stock 2.1 launcher works great!
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I had an SE phone since.... well, long ago, when they were called just Ericsson. Anyway, I had P800, P900, and P1i. All those times, I would think that, man, won't it be nice when they provide an update that was worthwhile. They never got to it. I lost all my interest in Sony Ericsson in general. I switched from my malfunction P1i to Captivate, and I haven't seen that P1i ever since....

Maroon Mushroom said:
Well they haven't confirmed which OS it will run. The reason it takes so long for everyone to roll out new android OSs, is because they have to update their skins to match it, which is why we don't have 2.2 right now, because Samsung is wasting their time with touchwiz (which i hated and replaced)
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They have confirmed it is running Android 1.6. Is there particular reason why you want the X10? At best its a great midend handset. It only beats the Captivate in the megapixel race? Things like industrial design and Android skin are subjective of course.
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No multitouch and Android 1.6 = no deal.

ConceptVBS said:
That would be Samsung.
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No that would be ARM and Samsung fabbed it...

tabrisnow said:
I had an SE phone since.... well, long ago, when they were called just Ericsson. Anyway, I had P800, P900, and P1i. All those times, I would think that, man, won't it be nice when they provide an update that was worthwhile. They never got to it. I lost all my interest in Sony Ericsson in general. I switched from my malfunction P1i to Captivate, and I haven't seen that P1i ever since....
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DUDE SAME HERE!!! I thought I was like the 3rd person to even have p1i.... It was a f....ing dump, hardware camera, bla bla bla is great..... UPDATES NONE!! There were like some firmware updates, but there was absolutely no app support. GDesk was like OMG..... then nothing was really supported, it was just horrible waste of money..... 500 bux for a barely function "smartphone".... THAT Thing was crap.....
Funny story, I have a friend that works for SE in San Diego for Product Marketing. She's all please support SE and by the Xperia X10, I was like don't even get me started..... She STFU..... only if she offered a BJ.....
Sorry guys /rant.

Speaking of SE San Diego, I just came from the Sony Style store in Fashion Valley Mall here in San Diego. I finally saw the X10. After rebooting it, I started to play with it and check out the apps and settings. I didn't like it from the get-go. I just had to put it down and checked out their 3D TVs instead
Getting a hands-on experience with an X10 was like a step back. I've been a Sony Ericsson user for years (owned 3 phones and loved them.). I was disappointed on this one. I was playing with my coworker's HTC Incredible. Incredible phone indeed! This is what got me to take the Android plunge! (I've owned 2 older HTC devices). Since I'm still with AT&T (I didn't want to jump ship yet) and I didn't want to settle for the HTC Aria with a slower processor, the Captivate was the best choice for me.

AllTheWay said:
All I have to say is dont buy a phone with a Qualcomm processor in it. Just look at the HTC phones that pale in comparrison in terms of performance. Nuff said. The same company that made the humming bird processor made the Apple A4 processor.
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I agree stay away from Qualcomm. They helped screw a lot of people with the whole 'missing drivers' problem a few years ago.
I think the company is called Intrinsic (sp?) Anyway they designed Hummingbird for Samsung and they are also owned by Apple.

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No that would be ARM and Samsung fabbed it...
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Actually, that would be Samsung who licensed A8 the architecture from ARM.

[Q] Help Me Choose a Smartphone plz

Hi Guys,
This is my first thread in the android section cuz I have been a windows mobile user for a long time with my SE xperia x1.
Now i'd like to buy another phone and unfortunately Windows Phone 7 lacks a lot of things so I'll go with an android phone. I think that froyo is really good.
I thought about the SE X10 but it only has android 2.1 and no official update for or no update at all for 2.2 which reflects how hard it'd be to update to any further version.
I also did some reading and found that Android 2.3 is soon to come and its minimum requirements are 1ghz processor and 512mb RAM. and I want to be able to update to it when the update comes out, so i want a phone with these minimum requirements and to currently have android 2.2 froyo on it.
so if u plz guide me to a phone with these specifications and not very expensive i'll be very thankful

T-Mobile's HTC G2 is a good phone, it has stock Android 2.2 and since it's one of Googles phones it should get the 2.3 update fairly quickly. Also Motorola's Droid 2 is stock 2.2 so it will get the update faster than other phones and has a 1ghz processor, and the Nexus One is probably the best Android phone out there.

Thanx for ur reply but sry i forgot to mention that i'm from Egypt and i'm going to get this phone from UAE so unfortunately there's no carrier phones so T-mobile g2 is not an option

An unlocked Nexus One should work over there. Do you're carriers use GSM?

I guess so, but I won't find a nexus one I'm not buying online

Well The Nexus One is the safest card at the moment. It will most likely be upgraded to gingerbread.
So if you can get hold of a nexus one, I think your problem is solved.
Here's something to read...
http://www.brighthand.com/default.a...ingerbread+3.0+Nexus+One+Upgrade+Release+Date

Thanx for your help, Bu I don't Think that the nexus one will be available where I'm buying plus honestly I don't think it looks beautiful either
so is there any other phone to consider??
The update to 2.3 doesn't have to be official but if the phone have the minimum requirements I believe that someone here at XDA will get the update running on it in no time
so any other recommendations ??
EDIT: There's a Probability that the Nexus One might be available so I'd like to know what does it lack among the phones available now cuz it has ben out since Jan 2010 it must be late on something I guess

I dont own one myself , so I cant really tell you anything about its cons or pros or whatever. However its physichal aspects does seems to feel a bit old, compared to HTC desire that is...

Alright, Let's say that I go for the desire
do u think that it'll be getting the 2.3 update either officially or non-officially
one more thing, is there any drawbacks with the desire?

I have no idea when it come to the desire actually.
And no, I personally think desire is the best android handset out yet =)

ahmedsalem89 said:
Alright, Let's say that I go for the desire
do u think that it'll be getting the 2.3 update either officially or non-officially
one more thing, is there any drawbacks with the desire?
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I think the desire will not get an official 2.3. update.
But the Desire is almost the same as the Nexus One, which will get the 2.3. update, so there probably will be lots of 2.3.-ports for Desire from Nexus One.
I would'nt got for a SE-device, because imho their support is bad (updating on 2.1. when 2.2. already has been released 6 months ago WTF).
Regards

Yes I agree and as they both have practically the same specs, It would be bad marketing if they didnt offer a upgrade to the Desire aswell in my opinion...

Personally I would recommend the Galaxy S because the support is decent, it has a lot of supporters (custom roms, custom kernels, AOSP-ification etc).
Also hardware wise it is superior to anything on the market right now (strongest graphics chip) and the Super AMOLED is something out of this world! you have to see it to believe it.
Optionally you could wait till January for Nexus 2 which is a (?) modified version of galaxy S with gingerbread.
Secondary I could recommend the N900, it's an AWESOME hacking phone, just got USB hosting support (USB drives etc) and it looks like nokia might bring MeeGo to it after all.
But it's early adoption, yada yada, you'll have to take chances and learn some terminal commands and linux (no biggie) and in reward you get to run android, ubuntu palm pre apps (awesome games) at an almost perfect state(meaning phone, uit etc, games run perfect )!
Now what I would not recommend you to get is an iPhone.
The software support is awful, jaibreaking literally breaks the device (gsm etc...), buld quality, you must have read about it and buh-bye widgets flash and customizations.
's a blog about all that stuff, I keep reading and remain astonished...
http://theiphonefever.blogspot.com/2010/05/iphone-4g-screen-multimedia-flop.html

Yes you could buy a n900 and port it with upcoming nitdroid 0.0.9 (android 2.2.1)
But if you were looking to buy a android device in the first place I would not recommend to buy a n900 and port it to android and so on. I mean... gingerbread is soon to come and the NITDroid project is currently on the froyo stageline , in that case you would always be at least 1 year behind.

I wouldn't go for a galaxy S because of the lack of flash for the camera and the looks, I guess it looks kinda cheap and the desire is way better looking but I agree with you the super AMOLED is great.
and the n900 is very low on specs even if it'd boot android it'll be slow and laggy IMO, plus it's a NOKIA and for me this reason is more than enough not to buy it
and off course I wont even consider an iphone these phones r way stupid
I agree with nickownzya about SE phones I was astonished when I knew that the x10 got 2.1 while 2.2 was already out. why would they do that?!!!
so I guess I'll be either buying a desire or a nexus one, good looking, great support, and better hardware.
Thanx for the help guys

Desire and Nexus are cool but otherwise I hate HTC designs. Why do they always have to make that "spotted" back? what's wrong with a smooth finish?
Hard choice anyway, nexus seems to be close to the end of it's "lifetime" and kinda lags on specs HD video etc, but desire has more potential but doesn't have the same support...
Either way I don't agree about the galaxy looking cheap. SO far it's the only device with gorilla glass display (scratch proof so far for me) and it has the sleekest/thinnest shape of them all.
Also it has the strongest video hardware which will keep it from becoming obsolete a while longer than the competition. So far nothing takes full advantage of it though, unfortunately.

When it comes to design, it differs from a person to another. for me this plastic is too much plus it's a fingerprint magnet and I hate that. I would prefer a metal finish, metal buttons or even harder looking plastic with matte black or gray.
U seem to be a big galaxy S fan yourself and I don't hate it but If only they have added flash for the camera and took the whole thing and put it into a better looking body something like the milestone 2 which BTW also has Gorilla Glass display or a SE x10 I'd definitely go for it .
Anyway, Honestly I'd prefer the desire because of the same reason u mentioned .

Then go for desire, you wont be disapointed =)

Samsung galaxy s. You can't get better hardware.
Its not perfect out of the box.
Infact it need little care, but then its great.
I had an iphone4 before i did buy my sgs. Well now i don't have a iphone 4.
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ahmedsalem89 said:
Alright, Let's say that I go for the desire
do u think that it'll be getting the 2.3 update either officially or non-officially
one more thing, is there any drawbacks with the desire?
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We are not Jesus Christ or prophet mahomet....
There is plenty of threads to look for if you want an android phone. As I know... no one here works at google or at HTC ... we don't know nothing about gingerbread and wich one is gonna be updated and when. Google, youtube... make your homework. There's plenty of videos and reviews on the net...
I thought egyptians still use papyrus to communicate... no?

[Q] Curious: Why did you purchase that?

I was curious what was your reason behind purchasing either a phone, tablet, or slate? Please Bold the device name, so we know the product. Some products have common names, such as Desire. Most of know about HTC Desire but its for new the comers.
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So I've purchased the last year and half
Nexus, To get into Development and I needed an unlock phone. My iPhone 3G was slow and Nexus was just shockingly fast.
iPad: It had 3G and GPS, i wanted to use it as GPS Dashboard. I ran into troubles with the apps, none of the apps support the full screen navigation till several months later.
iPhone 4: Development and just to be hip (don't slam me for being hip...)
Nexus S: Also great for development and the damn thing had a front facing camera that I could use within development apps.
Moto Atrix: 4G*, Dual Core, frontfacing camera, GFX, 1gig of ram, and I thought it would be great for development but I prefer the Nexus S. Honestly, I love my Atrix but its a pain. Its running on 2.2 as of now, the 4G connection is slower than 3G, and MOTO Blur. Moto Blur should be an option on its devices.
Asus Eee transformer: It was cheap, fast, and of course (you guessed it!) for development...

I got this Desire about a year ago. When i choosed it i could also pick a Galaxy S and an iPhone4 (contract). I didn't pick the Galaxy because i wasn't convinced about the build quality, the annoying lack of flash and notification led annoyed me and also because at that time development for that specific phone was kinda weak. The iPhone wasn't even worth considering because iOS4 was piss poor compared with froyo, and also because xda goodies were just too tempting for me. Probably if the iPhone had iOS5 on it already, with many android features copied, my choice would have been a little harder, but i was so curious about android that i would have probably grabbed the Desire anyway.

I find it interesting that a lot of people now are working towards Android, what made you decide on Android when you had options like WebOS, Windows Mobile, Symbian. Or Was it the hardware too?

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I find it interesting that a lot of people now are working towards Android, what made you decide on Android when you had options like WebOS, Windows Mobile, Symbian. Or Was it the hardware too?
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Well actually being a long trade HTC fan helped me deciding. I was coming from a winmo 6.1 HTC device (Cruise) and i wanted to try out android. Sure hardware was also something i took into account: android phones were much better than any symbian back then already, and WP7 seemed unable to compete in terms of functionality, it seemed to be a really locked down os plus i truly hated the interface (and i still do lol). WebOS was actually worth considering, but it already felt like something from the past: back in the days of the big android boom i saw google's platform as the best option, tho i always appreciated palm devices in terms of form factor and ease of use.

vnvman said:
Well actually being a long trade HTC fan helped me deciding. I was coming from a winmo 6.1 HTC device (Cruise) and i wanted to try out android. Sure hardware was also something i took into account: android phones were much better than any symbian back then already, and WP7 seemed unable to compete in terms of functionality, it seemed to be a really locked down os plus i truly hated the interface (and i still do lol). WebOS was actually worth considering, but it already felt like something from the past: back in the days of the big android boom i saw google's platform as the best option, tho i always appreciated palm devices in terms of form factor and ease of use.
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I love how Palm's GUI and user experience is right in the middle of being like an iPhone and Android. Its pretty as an iphone but open like android device. Its an ideal OS but I think the hardware... Thats whole different story, Its so small.

Motorola Milestone 2: Because I needed a new phone and wanted a qwerty keyboard and wanted to try something different (android)

Incredible: I wanted a decent Android phone with development going strong and it was only $99 at the time.
Nook Color: Wanted a tablet but couldn't dish out $300+.

Heyallo said:
Motorola Milestone 2: Because I needed a new phone and wanted a qwerty keyboard and wanted to try something different (android)
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what did you have before?
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Incredible: I wanted a decent Android phone with development going strong and it was only $99 at the time.
Nook Color: Wanted a tablet but couldn't dish out $300+.
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I had the desire to purchase Nook Color and turn it into a honeycomb device but I really needed a snappy processor and a good graphic accelerator. Have you hacked the Nook Color and if so, with what?

Last year and a half for me:
iPhone 3GS 32GB White: Loved my original iPhone from 2008 (primary on TMO), but it couldn't run any new apps so I upgraded and the price was right. Sold it.
iPhone 3GS 16GB Black: I really did not like white. At all, so I bought this, but it was an unlockable baseband, ugh. Sold it.
HTC Desire CDMA: My backup phone (Touch Diamond on Verizon) was getting too old, so I thought I'd pick up something modern to replace it.
Droid Incredible AMOLED: Bought for my wife to use on PagePlus, to replace the original iPhone she had since 2008 on TMO. She loves it, hates iPhones.
Droid Incredible SLCD: Liked my wife's D-Inc better than the HTC Desire, but I liked the Desire's SLCD better than the AMOLED, so I got an SLCD D-Inc for myself.
Nexus One: I bought it to use on TMO, because after using the D-Inc, I didn't like my white iPhone 3GS at all. Not just because I don't like white phones, but because its low-res screen looked like crap in comparison. Love the N1, still have it, but plan to sell.
iPhone 4: My new primary on TMO, replaced the N1. Main reason for it, because I already have a D-Inc as a backup, my wife has a D-Inc, and we both decided variety=good, better not to have too many of the same thing, so iPhone it is. I do like it, love the Retina display, build quality, size, thinness, how it feels in the hand, smooth games, and I'm much happier with it now that I found a nice HTC Clock for it.
HTC Surround: Mostly got this because it was a good price (at the time) on the marketplace, and I'm already familiar with Android and iOS, I wanted to see what WP7 is like. I am actually more impressed with it than I expected to be. UI a bit boring, but the same apps on WP7 are WAY nicer than their iOS and Android counterparts. Only problem is, there aren't very many apps available in general.
Samsung Omnia II i920: WM6.5 phone, bad ESN, that I picked up cheap. Sort of got it in my head this would be a nice dev phone. I thought it would be cool to write an "Alien Dalvik" for WM6.5 so it could run Android apps. I just hate the thought of all the millions of "obsolete" WM6.5 phones out there and had the idea that a Dalvik VM for WM would be a very good form of recycling. Will probably end up selling as I seldom follow through on any idea I ever get.
MyTouch 3G: It was cheap, thought it could make a nice desk clock that auto-sets its time/date. It would have cost at least as much to buy an atomic desk clock that's always lit, and this could even display weather at the same time.

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A very old HTC Touch HD running Windows Mobile 5.1 (or was it 6.1, I forget the number)

HTC Evo 4G: I love Android, easily rooted/unlocked. Bought used on eBay several months ago. Won't upgrade until contract is up in Feb 2012. Bought to replace HTC Hero CDMA on Sprint.
HTC Hero CDMA (aka HeroC): Bought refurbished from Sprint for $80, no contract renewal needed. I bought this to get rid of a crappy Blackberry 8520 I was using on Sprint that I got free when I started my contract. For me, Android does what I need.
Blackberry Curve 8520: Bought because all my friends had Blackberries. While I found it useful for sending text messages, I found it useless for about everything else (web browser)!
All phones were on the Sprint network.

Heyallo said:
A very old HTC Touch HD running Windows Mobile 5.1 (or was it 6.1, I forget the number)
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I love my HTC Touch HD, sleek for its time.
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HTC Evo 4G: I love Android, easily rooted/unlocked. Bought used on eBay several months ago. Won't upgrade until contract is up in Feb 2012. Bought to replace HTC Hero CDMA on Sprint.
HTC Hero CDMA (aka HeroC): Bought refurbished from Sprint for $80, no contract renewal needed. I bought this to get rid of a crappy Blackberry 8520 I was using on Sprint that I got free when I started my contract. For me, Android does what I need.
Blackberry Curve 8520: Bought because all my friends had Blackberries. While I found it useful for sending text messages, I found it useless for about everything else (web browser)!
All phones were on the Sprint network.
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I feel sorry for BB lately, its going down hill fast. They made a pretty bad moves since the iPhone came out. Nice bargin on HTC Hero, lovely device.

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I feel sorry for BB lately, its going down hill fast. They made a pretty bad moves since the iPhone came out.
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Same here, i still hope that they manage to release something nice soon, the new bold coming out on september isn't that bad it seems...

iPhone 3GS 16GB Black: First experience with smartphone. And needed one for work wich allowed me to connect and synch easy with my workspace
Galaxy Apollo: Had some issues with iphone sold it and got this pretty cheap Android phone. Using it for roughly a year now and like it alot. Perfect synch to both work and personal spaces.
iPad: Won it so didn't buy it but really didn't like or needed it that much so sold it after 1 month and got myself a new video card

First i had a LAMEE chocolate (BL-40) from LG - never had a worse phone on my life. I wanted to try touchscreen and stuff, and it was almost free...
Then i switched to a blackberry. That was a total deception. EVERYBODY said that Blackberry was soooo good, i found it to be an average phone at best.
After that i switched to a Xperia X10, which came with a malfunction on the usb conector and tech support declared it as bad use. (never trust brazilian tech support - is the worse). I got it resoldered, and it worked for another 10 months. - I wanted a phone with android mostly because of its sync, to have all my services linked with my gmail account was awesome.
Last saturday i got a Samsung Galaxy SII, and so far is the best. I decided not to go with Sony anymore, and i wanted one of the newest. I'm yet to experience lag with it...

The I i saw the dell venue pro running the sexy wp7 UI i was in love. I had a few of the big name android devices that were huge at the time and they just seemed slow in comparison. Then there was the ergonomic feel, the curved glass, the keyboard that's flawless for one-handed use... Everything about this phone is just flawless IF you weren't one of the ones who got one of the faulty initial devices.

iPod Touch 3G My MP4 broke
Moto Defy Because I needed a new phone, and this seemed the best for my spesifications, and, well, for development. For example, I am trying to port Motoblur widgets and apps into MIUI.

HTC Legend - Bought this because I needed the Chuck Norris of smartphones. You could hammer some nails with this baby. The size is also spot on for me.

HTC Thunderbolt: 4G (15-20mbps downloads). 'Nuff said.
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what do you guys think about adding photos of your gadgets? it would be nice if you guys personalized those gadgets