hey i've installed a couple of roms on my phone then installed that stock att radio over one, it was great, nearly doubled my battery live and reception was excellent, but after trying miui and doing a nandroid restore of my old rom when i try to flash the radio again it tells me "FAILED remote: not allowed"
i see this tutorial here but im wondering if theres a gui one click for it and how come its not included with the S-off and rooting business?
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-gain-s-off-radio-and-engineering-on-htc-desire-hd/
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hey i've installed a couple of roms on my phone then installed that stock att radio over one, it was great, nearly doubled my battery live and reception was excellent, but after trying miui and doing a nandroid restore of my old rom when i try to flash the radio again it tells me "FAILED remote: not allowed"
i see this tutorial here but im wondering if theres a gui one click for it and how come its not included with the S-off and rooting business?
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-gain-s-off-radio-and-engineering-on-htc-desire-hd/
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look here --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
Doo Doo said:
look here --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
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this will give me not just eng s-off but engineering s-off? i already have S-off but need engineering to have total control of the radio
thatg said:
this will give me not just eng s-off but engineering s-off? i already have S-off but need engineering to have total control of the radio
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eng s-off is engineering s-off.
First thing if you aren't compiling a kernel and trying to run it then you should not eng s-off your phone there are other methods. (go to our dev section and look for the radio thread)
Second if you didn't know (could figure out) eng s-off is the engineering hboot then, you probably shouldn't try to mess with that level of the phone ... no?
mudknot2005 said:
eng s-off is engineering s-off.
First thing if you aren't compiling a kernel and trying to run it then you should not eng s-off your phone there are other methods. (go to our dev section and look for the radio thread)
Second if you didn't know (could figure out) eng s-off is the engineering hboot then, you probably shouldn't try to mess with that level of the phone ... no?
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Eng s-Off is completely unnecessary for the only level of radio control most of us mortals need... Flashing different radios.
This eng s-Off radio method, in all it's obsolete glory, sure has legs...
I'm sure it doesn't help matters that it still appears to be the "official" method over on the desire hd radio thread. There sure isn't any post here in the inspire sections that continue to endorse this method.
ok just tried this, when using the visionary app it didnt reboot when i tried permaroot so i rebooted it myself, then when using S-off one click it tells my my bootloader is corrupt
edit: computer had bad drivers worked with my other one thanks yall!!
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I bought a used Inspire 4G , and I notice it states SHIP S-OFF, so I am wondering whats the difference between SHIP S-OFF and ENG S-OFF? Can I flash any Inspire 4G ROMs for SHIP S-OFF? ( I did flash Andriod Rev)
ronan_zj said:
I bought a used Inspire 4G , and I notice it states SHIP S-OFF, so I am wondering whats the difference between SHIP S-OFF and ENG S-OFF? Can I flash any Inspire 4G ROMs for SHIP S-OFF? ( I did flash Andriod Rev)
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You can flash ROMs with S-off like you have now if you're rooted. ENG off is for flashing a new radio. Before you even think about flashing a new radio, read everything possible on here about it. It can be very risky and leave you with a bricked Inspire. Be aware of that before you dive into that ball pit.
Specifically, SHIP=Shipping bootloader
ENG=Engineering bootloader. Use ENG at your own risk.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA Premium App
thanks mrro82
mrro82 said:
You can flash ROMs with S-off like you have now if you're rooted. ENG off is for flashing a new radio. Before you even think about flashing a new radio, read everything possible on here about it. It can be very risky and leave you with a bricked Inspire. Be aware of that before you dive into that ball pit.
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You do not need eng s-off to flash radio firmware updates. Use the method in the hack kit as an example of how to do it with only radio s-off and a shipping hboot. It's easy, safer and more reliable than fastboot flashing.
The main advantage to eng hboot is for developers testing kernels. You can safely fastboot boot images. The average user has no good reason to be fooling with fastboot flash.
ronan_zj said:
I bought a used Inspire 4G , and I notice it states SHIP S-OFF, so I am wondering whats the difference between SHIP S-OFF and ENG S-OFF? Can I flash any Inspire 4G ROMs for SHIP S-OFF? ( I did flash Andriod Rev)
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Ok - this is a great post because I need to return my Inspire to stock. When I go to bootloader I have:
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF
I'm still rooted because I want to use my Inspire for another couple of weeks before returning. I also have gotten rid of Radio S-Off because I'm not gonna flash any radio's from the stock one that I'm using now.
Is the above bootloader what the stock bootloader came with ?? In other words , if I flash over a stock RUU will I be ready for return ? I just can't remember what my bootloader said when I bought it (I would assume it was "S-On")
jcrompton said:
Ok - this is a great post because I need to return my Inspire to stock. When I go to bootloader I have:
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF
I'm still rooted because I want to use my Inspire for another couple of weeks before returning. I also have gotten rid of Radio S-Off because I'm not gonna flash any radio's from the stock one that I'm using now.
Is the above bootloader what the stock bootloader came with ?? In other words , if I flash over a stock RUU will I be ready for return ? I just can't remember what my bootloader said when I bought it (I would assume it was "S-On")
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I doubt that most reps would check if your phone had S-off in the boot loader. As long as you have the stock rom on the phone when you return it in case they look at the functionality I pretty sure you are ok anyway.
Why bring it back though? What are you picking up instead?
Can someone post a tutorial on how to get radio s-off? Do you need to go back to complete stock?
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk
anaphora68 said:
Can someone post a tutorial on how to get radio s-off? Do you need to go back to complete stock?
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk
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s-off, or s-on? To get s-off, just follow the hack kit instructions.
I did follow the hack kit. What I'm trying to do is get radio s-off. What I'm asking is, should I follow the hack kit, and then restore the Desire HD stock ROM and run the Desire HD hacks for radio s-off?
so i have eng s-off and flashed a new radio, is there any danger of having eng s-off if it is not tinkered with?
Why do all of my questions go unanswered? Do i smell bad?
anaphora68 said:
I did follow the hack kit. What I'm trying to do is get radio s-off. What I'm asking is, should I follow the hack kit, and then restore the Desire HD stock ROM and run the Desire HD hacks for radio s-off?
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You've lost me. If you followed the hack kit, then you should have radio s-off already and have a rooted ROM with the ability to run most any "hack" you want.
If you've followed the hack kit and are rooted and now want to go back to stock with radio security back on, then that's something entirely different.
mj0528 said:
so i have eng s-off and flashed a new radio, is there any danger of having eng s-off if it is not tinkered with?
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There shouldn't be. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the danger is in what you can accidentally mess up through bootloader commands when you have eng s-off. Normal flashing of ROMs, ect. shouldn't pose any threat.
mj0528 said:
Why do all of my questions go unanswered? Do i smell bad?
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I don't know, and not from here.
IsraelR said:
There shouldn't be. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the danger is in what you can accidentally mess up through bootloader commands when you have eng s-off. Normal flashing of ROMs, ect. shouldn't pose any threat.
I don't know, and not from here.
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Thanks man!
Finally got it working. I re-ran the hack-kit.
Just flashed the newest test radio (running CM7 test 22) and I have to say, the speeds, up and down, are amazingly fast compared to the stock radio. I'll post more impressions later.
Also picked up a 1600MAH battery. So far, so good.
anaphora68 said:
Finally got it working. I re-ran the hack-kit.
Just flashed the newest test radio (running CM7 test 22) and I have to say, the speeds, up and down, are amazingly fast compared to the stock radio. I'll post more impressions later.
Also picked up a 1600MAH battery. So far, so good.
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Where did you get the battery?
Did a search on ebay. It's a 1600mah Desire HD battery replacement. So far, so good.
Hey fellas I want to try a different radio and this is where my search led me so can someone tell me where or how to get ENG-OFF on this device?Apparently S-OFF isn't enough to flash a new radio.I get the error FAILED...Any help would be awesome.Thanks!Oh yeah...Inspire 4G CM7 Nightly...
ryanoption said:
Hey fellas I want to try a different radio and this is where my search led me so can someone tell me where or how to get ENG-OFF on this device?Apparently S-OFF isn't enough to flash a new radio.I get the error FAILED...Any help would be awesome.Thanks!Oh yeah...Inspire 4G CM7 Nightly...
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You don't NEED ENG S-Off to flash a radio
See this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002226) thread
You can just use a PD98IMG.zip and flash through HBoot - much safer this way. If you really want, here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403) is the one click ENG S-Off tool
I downloaded Android Revolution HD 1.0.1 and Format data partition EXT4 and i was trying to install them thru the CWM provided on this page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14679336#post14679336 It keeps displaying e:error in /sdcard/format data partition ext4.zip(status 1) I already have RUU_Pyramid_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.1_Radio_10.42.9007.00P_10.11.9007.15_M_release_192608_signed installed and SHIP S-OFF
PLZ HELP
-It seems that is fails everytime when i'm installing a ROM, the same thing happened when i installing MDJ's sensation sense ROM
I don't know if SHIP S-OFF will allow you to do what ENG S-OFF (ENG=Engineering).
do i need to have a eng s-off device to flash custom ROM?
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I don't know if SHIP S-OFF will allow you to do what ENG S-OFF (ENG=Engineering).
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do i need to have a eng s-off device to flash custom ROM?
Calm down, no need to post multiples of the same thing
Like I mentioned, I don't know what SHIP S-OFF allows you to do. It may, or may not, give you engineering capabilities. We won't know for sure until others who have SHIP S-OFF chime in with their findings. It's most likely the case though, as changing ROMs and kernels is an engineering function.
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Calm down, no need to post multiples of the same thing
Like I mentioned, I don't know what SHIP S-OFF allows you to do. It may, or may not, give you engineering capabilities. We won't know for sure until others who have SHIP S-OFF chime in with their findings. It's most likely the case though, as changing ROMs and kernels is an engineering function.
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lol i did that cuz i just noticed that i replied to my post but not yours, so i'll trying to get a eng S-OFF on my phone
willxyz said:
lol i did that cuz i just noticed that i replied to my post but not yours, so i'll trying to get a eng S-OFF on my phone
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Just out of curiosity, can you check your SDCARD for a file called SMART_IO.crd?
So I am as excited as everyone else about s-off. Been waiting for awhile, but in the haste of everyone rooting their phone, I haven't been able to find a thread about restoring s-on in case of warranty work. Have I over looked something?
lots of views but no comments. This is from the IRC if interested
<splayer7> sorry if this has been asked, but what about resuming s-on for warranty work?
<hyuh> splayer7: no, not available
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lots of views but no comments. This is from the IRC if interested
<splayer7> sorry if this has been asked, but what about resuming s-on for warranty work?
<hyuh> splayer7: no, not available
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Exactly what has been said. There is no unrooting or S-On restoring at this time. I would just wait if you haven't already. HTC Released their source codes today. Its only a matter of time before an easier root is available with unroot, and S-on.
Was told that we could s-on by running the RUU. Here's a link to some I've found but haven't tested any of this. http://droidangel.blogspot.com/2011/06/htc-sensation-ruushipped-roms-packaged.html
kevinliu2336 said:
Was told that we could s-on by running the RUU. Here's a link to some I've found but haven't tested any of this. http://droidangel.blogspot.com/2011/06/htc-sensation-ruushipped-roms-packaged.html
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do we have any confirmation on this working correctly
Tried it, resets your ROM but doesn't reset s-off
Guys.. There is about a 25% chance at best that HTC will actually check the boot loader status before providing warranty service. Even if you are unlucky and they do, if you make enough noise they might make an exception and let you off the hook. I think that as long as the issue that you are trying to resolve isn't a direct result of s-off or root, it should be fine.
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So I am as excited as everyone else about s-off. Been waiting for awhile, but in the haste of everyone rooting their phone, I haven't been able to find a thread about restoring s-on in case of warranty work. Have I over looked something?
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Flash an official RUU, and the device will be S-ON! TESTED!
lge73 said:
Flash an official RUU, and the device will be S-ON! TESTED!
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Are you sure man? Somebody else above tested and found the opposite..
If the ruu is left untampered with, the boot image will be replaced with a stock one. Boot image is where your s-off lives. So in theory it should without a doubt work. You just have to make sure the boot image is in the ruu
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If the ruu is left untampered with, the boot image will be replaced with a stock one. Boot image is where your s-off lives. So in theory it should without a doubt work. You just have to make sure the boot image is in the ruu
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I used the rom.zip file included in an untouched RUU, and I checked it includes HBOOT, also saw version change when I went into HBOOT.
It does NOT reset S-OFF back to S-ON.
I dont know if when you flash it reads S-OFF so keeps it, for users who genuinely had S-OFF?
I have personally tested this, and can confirm that using HTC's stock RUU does not return the phone to S-ON. However, it did remove the top area that says revolutionary, so now it appears as though I have a factory S-OFF device
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App
bummer.. I really hope there is a way to reverse s-off, just in case. but then again, I do have insurance so I guess I could say it was 'stolen' if I really need to get it replaced
prank1 said:
For those worrying about warranty issues..
You can try flashing the correct RUU for your phone.
IF that doesn't get rid of -revolutionary- s-off, then you can flash the ENG HBOOT (which gets rid of -revolutionary- but gives you ENG S-OFF) then you can flash the correct RUU for your region (which will definitely get rid of ENG S-OFF, and make you official stock HBOOT S-ON)
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Try flashing ENG HBOOT, then the RUU afterwards.
I am going to try to get my phone back to S-ON now, just to test everything
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Hmm, very odd indeed, after flashing the RUU I have 'stock' Radio S-OFF (no -Revolutionary-) , I tried fastboot oem write secuflag 1 and fastboot oem writecid HTC__001 but I am still Radio S-OFF.
Just so people know, flashing full RUUs, even HBOOTs do NOT get rid of Radio S-OFF. Thats why it is favored by people, it can only be turned S-ON specifically by tools which may be released for the Sensation in the near future. I thought these tools only sent the commands that I tried to change the Radio security status. It would appear not.
However
There is no need to worry, Radio S-OFF probably won't void your warranty (if you sent it to a HTC repair center), as long as you have the correct CID and ROM installed you should be fine.
If I remember correctly, with the past Android phones, some people randomly got S-OFF (like sensation users did) out of the box. The HTC repair center didn't care. They don't like custom ROMs, custom HBOOTs, rooted ROMs, etc
I've just found out about this tool.
It supports HBOOT 0.98.0000 and 0.98.0002. (It seems that there are some problems with 1.47.xxx ROM and 0.98.0002 hboot. Follow this guide first and then return here )
It's built by AlphaRev and unrevoked.
Go check it out: http://revolutionary.io/
Yup... found out from me....because i couldn't make my DS S-OFF again and i went in alpharev chat room and ....just asked )
Its a nice tool, and works! Unrevoked and Alpharev.. interensting
HAHA! I was waiting for this and I just did the downgrade and everything yesterday.
Sigh, what a laugh.
Any advantage over the old S-OFF, is it a newer HBOOT?
Same hboot... just that you don't have *** Alpharevx ***
Now you have *** Revolutionary *** on top of the bootloader screen
Well that's good I guess. I hate having out of date software
Work for me 0.98.0002
Thanks for great team
So is it worth flashing on top of alpharev
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA App
I don't think you can just "flash it" because it will probably say you are already s-off.
If you are s-off then there is no need to do anything... only if you get back s-on and want to get s-off.
.sh4d0w. said:
I don't think you can just "flash it" because it will probably say you are already s-off.
If you are s-off then there is no need to do anything... only if you get back s-on and want to get s-off.
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Your right I just tried lol it comes up you are already s-off what the hell do you think you are doing
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA App
mine says, failed to get root
Same here.
Sorry I cannot offer support for this tool. Maybe you can try contacting them on irc.
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=revolutionary
If it says failed to root use this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1190992 to downgrade to rom with 98.0000 hboot and then use Revolutionary... Some ppl did this today here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1185919&page=3 pages 3,4,5
But this tool should work with hboot 0.98.0002 too.
Yea it should , but as we can see, it wont work properly on 0002 . Maybe it wont work only on some new roms
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But this tool should work with hboot 0.98.0002 too.
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It looks like it can't temp root any 1.47.x.x ROM.
Not yet, at least.
Without root access, it can't flash the hacked hboot.
Could you report this on their irc ? They don't know probably, so this way they can improve it's functionality.
badeaioan said:
Could you report this on their irc ? They don't know probably, so this way they can improve it's functionality.
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I did! The bot just replied:
Not supported <end>
Still I believe it won't take long before we see the light...
I did the update few days ago, and I tried this tool with no luck :/
Ok, so I have been trying to unroot my thunderbolt and put it back to stocked gingerbread so that my company can not tell i fiddled with it. I read the step by step guides on how to unroot but here is my current situation in boot loader my phone says
Revolutionary
Hboot-6.04.1002
mecha xd ship s-off
microp-/
RADIO - 1.49.00.0406w_1
emm-boot
First i flashed the RUU of gingerbread so now the phone is stocked. But i cant turn S- ON And i noticed that every ones guides has lower radio then mine and peaple have hboot 1.04.0000 but i have 6.04.1002... what am i doing wrong?
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Ok, so I have been trying to unroot my thunderbolt and put it back to stocked gingerbread so that my company can not tell i fiddled with it. I read the step by step guides on how to unroot but here is my current situation in boot loader my phone says
Revolutionary
Hboot-6.04.1002
mecha xd ship s-off
microp-/
RADIO - 1.49.00.0406w_1
emm-boot
First i flashed the RUU of gingerbread so now the phone is stocked. But i cant turn S- ON And i noticed that every ones guides has lower radio then mine and peaple have hboot 1.04.0000 but i have 6.04.1002... what am i doing wrong?
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Try this guide: http://forums.androidcentral.com/th...ow-root-unroot-thunderbolt-revolutionary.html
chromium96 said:
Try this guide: http://forums.androidcentral.com/th...ow-root-unroot-thunderbolt-revolutionary.html
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Problem solved, thanks man, you saved me ALOT of stress. I also stumpled on a nifty all in one root program gor gingerbread, so this problem wont ring up again. but again, thank you.