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So after todays update i returned my Thunderbolt

Its gone, todays radio made the phone even worse for me, always had a crap signal to begin with but it got almost unusable after the update, i was gonna get a charge but......the store said they have moved back the date to a TBA again, he also said they bionic has been cancelled, i was left with no option but to go back with the iphone, i almost went with a galaxy S, but ive had one of those upto getting my TB and didnt really wanna go back to something i had already had..
To sum it up, the TB is a great device that lacks the testing it required, it seems to have been rushed out with horrific battery life even with custom roms its still crap for heavy users, and poor signal..
Ill buy one again if they get there crap together and fix the obvious faults, but until Verizon releases a good dual core android im gonna have to stick with what i know.

Cool story, bro.

cool story bro, tell me again with subtitles.

I don't notice any change after the update

ThunderBolt isn't for everyone I guess. I love 4G and I can work with the small battery.
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One less person to hear whining..... Duh winning!
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Good for you. No one gives a ****.

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Yikess......not sure where you live, but I get fantastic 4 g everywhere in Chicago, have had 2-3 random reboots since I bought on day 1 (which could be less that the reboots on my Dinc), and get reasonable battery life, best phone I have yet to own.

Not to crap on your post , but I took my ip4 back because of bad service. My TB will hold service where the ip4 wouldn't. I will take service over battery anyday.
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Interesting.... You took it back, after being rooted and applying the update (that's what your other post said) sounds like someone may have messed up...

I just had 4G turned on in my city (Sacramento) a few minutes ago.. I've had the phone for a while and it rocks!!!.. I am surprised you've had so many issues with your phone.

lilmoney30 said:
Not to crap on your post , but I took my ip4 back because of bad service. My TB will hold service where the ip4 wouldn't. I will take service over battery anyday.
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Yeah and at least you can change the battery when it dies.. You can't even do that with the iPhone, what a great "feature". Two batteries and a stand alone charger only cost $10 on eBay. Besides I get over a day of battery anyways. I think the real problem existed between the phone and the ground...

I've loved my TB since day 1 and have no problems with it other than a slow to find me GPS. I love this phone and would have to agree that the problems for many seems to be between the phone and the ground. Rooted with DasBAMF 1.6.3 FTW!

1 less idiot asking where the unrevoked 1 click root is at...

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1 less idiot asking where the unrevoked 1 click root is at...
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Golden .... Still hanging out in the TB forum after the break up though? Sounds like he's not really over it ...
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ip4, u're holding it wrong.
thunderbolt, u're rooting it wrong.

i don't get it heh

never had an issue on my end. a few minor gliches running CM7 beta... but its a beta. i got the extended battery. made a world of difference. it will hold me over until slahyer updates the rom
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Best Battery Saver App Ever!!

Ok so i have tried many battery saver apps and have come to the conclusion that most of them are a joke. Until i tried BatteryXL. With a bit of setup this app has give me over 20 hours of life with use. I am talking about web surfing, texting, gaming, calls and some picture taking. I use my phone a lot and it just would not make it half the day. I even tried an extended battery. But even that sucked. Juice defender isn't bad if you buy the pro version, but BatteryXL is free. There have been a few glitches , as it is still in beta, but they are very minor and didn't effect its usage. So if anyone is looking for an app to help with battery life try it and see how it works for you. I am no way affiliated with the creators of this app. I am just a big fan of it and i know how many evo user complain about battery life. Also if you want to know i am using Sinister rom version 7 and anthrax kernel 009. The rom and kernel you use will affect how much this app helps.
Again i have no affiliation with the make of this app so don't ask me if you have issues. Submit then to the maker.
EDIT: If you don't have an intelligent thing to say, then do the world a favor and keep your mouth shut. The air is polluted enough as it is

Guys, please do not make me close this thread. Stay on its original purpose instead of attacking each other.
Consider this a warning. There is no point on either use so much exclamations marks, replying in such way to it and then attacking back in the same way.....
I am telling you the nicest way, stay on topic.
YOU ARE WARNED!

Thank you D.O.C. I just wanted to inform others about this app because i know battery issue is a big problem for most of us Evo users. And i am sorry for the off topic spat

BatteryXL has saved my battery.. i've been under 50% for over 4 hours already and still have 39%..
thanks for sharing...

Interesting

I switched over to an ICS rom and it still is getting me around 15 hrs or so. I love this app.

Been using it since the 28th and been able to go a full work day without a charge....on my normal high use day....thanks

I bought jd pro a while back but this one seems so much easier to set up. We shall see how it goes.
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One thing I hate about this app is it shuts down my 3g when I programed it to shutdown everything else lol
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Yea I've tried using this app but it just doesn't work like juice defender... this app doesn't auto sync 3rd party email apps or twitcaster... juice defender makes it possible to sync specific apps during a specific time frame to resync information while the screen is off.. I haven't seen this app (battery XL) do that at all...
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Yeah, I'm a bit leery of it myself, after reading all sorts of comments about people having issues getting various radios to come back on. Would like to see more feedback about it, though.
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Only issue I have had is every now and then it won't turn my mobile data back on. I will take that since I can get almost 20 hours of use every day. I will post a screen shot of it later today to prove it.

Yeah, I enjoyed this app until I too had problems with it randomly turning off my data, other than that it is great at saving battery life.
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Here is a screen shot of my battery status s of right now. 12 hours and still over 60%. Not as much use today but still, about 1 hour of web and games, and lots of texts.
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What does this app do exactly..? In what ways does it save battery... does it lower cpu usage or does it disconnect wireless connections when not in use or what..?
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Like most battery savers out there it controls connections and other features. But unlike most others this one actually does help get you more battery life. Before using this app i would only get about 12 hours total before I needed to charge. Now as you can see from above I get about double that.

@OP.
prior to using this app, were you one of those (like me) who always turn off unnecessary radios and services manually? Cuz I've always done that, and if this app makes an effect beyond that, I might be interested.
But I prefer to do it manually, myself (not to mention, due to OCD, I would always turn off radios manually). Are you not in that camp?
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No. I can't say I am. I never remember to turn them off so this app is great for me. It does have some other cool stuff. Check it out is all I can say. It is free. So if you don't like it you aren't out anything.

Simply put, the app sucks. Sucks bad. The concept is good, but the app, it sucks

lilajrestnom said:
What does this app do exactly..? In what ways does it save battery... does it lower cpu usage or does it disconnect wireless connections when not in use or what..?
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works fine on HTC one, somewhat its like the HTC power saver but better .
this one actually has more configurable options and behaves in a smart way
think probably the best battery saver out there at the momonet

ROM for best battery life

I just got the Samsung Galaxy s3 the other day and I am impressed. I was coming from an iPhone 4. Only thing I don't like is the battery life. So far I've flashed synergy 1.7, beans build 8, and Scotts cleanrom. Synergy seems to be the best on battery life, but I just want to know what others think. Also, I am running IMO lean kernel .01 on all of them at stock speeds. Not over clocked. Just wanting opinions.

Try synergy 1.3, best rom with excellent battery life
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There really is no best rom, it's all about user preference and exactly what you do with your phone. Try them each out for a week to weigh the pros/cons (or in your case scope out the battery life), then go with the one that you like best.
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I'm anal when it comes to being updated. My personal preference is staying on the latest. I just want decent battery life. I'm already on 91% and I took it off the charger an hour ago
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Vorfidus said:
There really is no best rom, it's all about user preference and exactly what you do with your phone. Try them each out for a week to weigh the pros/cons (or in your case scope out the battery life), then go with the one that you like best.
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Thanks for the info but I've done that. They all seem the same. I think my real concern is the kernel. I like Scotts cleanrom but I wanna know which kernel is recommended for battery and performance
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All the ROMs do a pretty good job. If battery life is your #1 concern and nothing else matters:
1. keep screen brightness on minimum. Screen filter can reduce brightness even more.
2. If you use wifi, set it to sleep unless charging.
3. Don't use 4g. Use 3g only.
4. Disable syncing or data entirely and only manually sync when you need to. (Something like JuiceDefender can automate this)
5. Disable google backup.
6. Disable GPS and verizon/google location services.
7. Disable bluetooth.
8. Check and eliminate all wakelocks using betterbattery stats.
9. Turn off all haptic feedback.
10. Freeze all Samsung and Verizon related services using titanium Backup.
11. Maybe a mild underclock on your kernel.
At this point, you will get great battery on your dumbphone with a giant screen

Haha thanks man. Yeah I'm just stupud about battery. I pay attention to it too much. I'll do all that. Stupid giant screen indeed
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1350 on this phone runs good with great battery life.
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I was having horrific battery on 1.7 with IMO's 0.1 beta. I completely wiped and reinstalled 1.7 on stock kernel, let my battery completely die and charged it up last night. Today I am at 90% after 3.5 hours unplugged listening to pod casts the whole time and texting and reddit app. Yesterday I was at 78% doing much less and unplugged for less time. I think when updating to new ROMs its important to do a full wipe and make sure if you use TiBu don't restore any system data. I don't have anything frozen as well

I'm getting almost 24 hours with about 2 hours of screen time, so much better coming from a Galaxy Nexus

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8. Check and eliminate all wakelocks using betterbattery stats.
10. Freeze all Samsung and Verizon related services using titanium Backup.
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What are wakelocks and how would I go about doing that? Which services are safe to freeze?

hey guys i just got an s3 and im new to this ad understand there more roms. what is currently the rom with the best battery life? I use my phone quite heavily with power saver mode on and it still doesn't last me a whole day. im on stock and still have to root. cheers

most roms are same across the board.. I would recc. synergy as is w/ziggy kernel. turn off 4g/sync/gps when not using it. :good:

Vorfidus said:
There really is no best rom, it's all about user preference and exactly what you do with your phone. Try them each out for a week to weigh the pros/cons (or in your case scope out the battery life), then go with the one that you like best.
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This ^^^^^^^^^^
And the reason these threads are closed immediately. Please search before posting and it would have been obvious.
There is no substitute for reading about the software you are going to alter your $700 device with.
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[Q] Screen absolutely killing battery

Hi, so ever since ICS, or at least SCv7 (not sure if it did it stock, I switched right away), my screen has bee completely killing my battery
I still get perfectly fine life with the screen off, but it just drops right down with it on even not doing anything to heavy. Definitely a problem not normal.
Anyone have any ideas? Is this happening to anyone else?
P.S. Thanks for the new Q and A section by the way.
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What are your screen settings at (levels, auto on/off, etc)? Screen is by far the biggest drain on battery. Check my Battery Guide, last Page for an app mentioned to lower brightness more than the stock settings will allow for- maybe that would help in certain instances. I haven't tried it myself, but will be doing so over the weekend, and if beneficial I will update the OP with it.
My SGS3 is the same as my A2 being that the screen gobbled up battery like crazy. So, I suppose you're not alone, at least with what I've experienced.
Not sure if any of this is helpful, but thought I'd share my thoughts...
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Apex_Strider said:
What are your screen settings at (levels, auto on/off, etc)? Screen is by far the biggest drain on battery. Check my Battery Guide, last Page for an app mentioned to lower brightness more than the stock settings will allow for- maybe that would help in certain instances. I haven't tried it myself, but will be doing so over the weekend, and if beneficial I will update the OP with it.
My SGS3 is the same as my A2 being that the screen gobbled up battery like crazy. So, I suppose you're not alone, at least with what I've experienced.
Not sure if any of this is helpful, but thought I'd share my thoughts...
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I keep it on auto or low all the time. this is definitely a real problem, because it was nowhere near as bad on GB. now I know they fixed the cell standby issue, but I can literally see the battery go right on down when I turn it on. 3-4 hours on would kill it.

Maybe try with auto off for a while, see if you notice any difference.
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Turn auto off and get a widget to adjust yourself. Read an article one time how on Android system auto brightness is more harm than good.
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joe3681 said:
Turn auto off and get a widget to adjust yourself. Read an article one time how on Android system auto brightness is more harm than good.
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yeah I know it is not good but my point is there is something wrong. just looking at xda and stuf I went from 50 to 10 in 40 min
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lkrasner said:
yeah I know it is not good but my point is there is something wrong. just looking at xda and stuf I went from 50 to 10 in 40 min
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Looking at your battery's discharge rate graph, looks pretty normal. There's no drastic drops in battery, it's fairly linear in discharge, and even if the screen is using most of that. However, there could be other culprits. What about sync, or haptic, or any of the other things I outlined in my guide? WiFi is off, from what I saw, but might not just be the screen. Have you tried editing build prop for "deeper" deep sleep or edits to other things? I'm going to update my OP with a few more things I thought of for improving overall battery life this weekend. Maybe some of the new ones will help...
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I'm sure that the display is eatin more than GB ....
i didn't see display going >50% in GB ..... now on ICS its like always >=70%
i have 2nd system as MIUI from "rdavisct" when i switch to it & come back to ICS
then my battery calibration scrambles ... i did switchin yesterday & it showed me
30% far early than expected

Same problem here..my screen draining 57%

Why don't you try the app betterbatterystats it's here in xda:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15869868
This may help to see the real problem of the fast battery drain you said, also you can install the app rootDim from the playstore to custom your screen brightness.
I hope this helps.
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If YOU are noticing degraded battery life after kitkat update, post here!

Are you noticing worse battery life after doing the kitkat update? I am, and I want to know if you are too.
Post in here, take the poll, and lets figure out how to track down what is going on.
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I will get some screens soon and try to track it down but I have been noticing that on days I use my Bluetooth after I turn it off. See a drastic.decrease in battery and my phone gets hot. I was have seen others say there was a Bluetooth wakelock as well and it's very random when it happens
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I'm down from 1.5 day to hardly 10 hours on a single charge

That's basically what I'm seeing, maybe 12 hours if I'm lucky. Granted I am using my phone a lot lately since I just got it but still... My s2 t989 with same usage was lasting far longer.
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Here's just today's bat life after sleeping 8 hours.
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My two main reasons for me rooting are ad blocking and greenify. I just learned that greenify added support for non-root users. I have greenified every app I don't use on a regular basis and am noticing significant difference in battery. The only thing is that after you use a greenified app you have to re-greenify manually.

Greenify and tasker work great, I had tasker auto hibernate all greenified apps upon screen on. Its basically the closest you can get to automation without rooting.
Greenify has saved my battery issues.
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Usually when going from previous to a newer android I factory reset twice
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Same here
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Usually I do a factory reset after such an upgrade
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Usually I do a factory reset after such an upgrade
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More often than not, a factory reset will take care of battery issues after a major OS upgrade. I'm not sure if it's left-over system files or something about the "upgrading" of existing apps during the process, but I've had to do it with both my Galaxy S3 and Nexus 7 2012. Not every upgrade, mind you, but with one or two.

I do notice my system battery monitor jumping around all crazy, this is after a factory reset.
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My wife's battery life has become so bad since the update, that I'm on this site trying to figure out how to downgrade her phone right now. (My N5/CM11 sometimes lasts longer than her G2 now)

Curious how everyone is now doing on the 20e update?
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Bout the same for me. Only thing I notice is that before my wifi was always running in background according to bbs, no matter what I did to change settings. Not anymore after update.

First cycle on the update I lost 35% or so in a couple hours with little use. I checked battery use and Instagram was the primary hog. Uninstalled and reinstalled the app and getting awesome battery life comparable or better than before the update. Not sure why instagram went crazy but works fine now
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The update fixed a serious wakelock issue caused by wifi calling for me. A lot of wakelocks seem to have disappeared with the update for me.
Nothing leaps and bounds, but notice a bit of an improvement for sure.