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Very specific question, and I have search everywhere for an answer.
I know it's a little lengthy of a post, but I tried to be as detailed and specific as possible.
I have android on HD2.
I need the pin lock to kick in and lock the phone completely after a set amount of time (let's say 5 minutes of inactivity). What I mean is, the only way to access the phone is by entering the pass-code or by complete hard reset only. This is for security reasons in case I loose the phone, or if I leave it somewhere unattended- at my office desk for example). I DON'T want the pin lock to kick in every time I turn off/on the screen, because that would be very inefficient and time consuming.
On the other hand, I need the slid lock to kick in within seconds after turning off the screen (so I don't activate the phone every time I touch the screen, or every time I press on a hardware button by mistake, when the phone is in my pocket).
Lastly, I am not looking for an app lock program. I do not need an a program that can prevent individual apps from running.
Before you answer:
Android 2.2 only allows to
1) activate and set time delay for both (pin-lock and slide-lock) at the same time interval. (There is no option to set delayed activation of pin-lock independent from slide-lock. For example if I set to activate the lock in 5 minutes, than both the slide lock and pin lock will kick in after 5min. If you turn off the screen and press on a button inadvertently while it is in your pocket you will be activating the phone and consequently make random calls, activate programs and so on...)
2) disable pin lock and keep slide lock activated. (but than, you than don't have the security of the pin-lock).
3) disable pin-lock and slide-lock altogether
Windows mobile behaves in a similar way, but using S2U2 fixes these issue.
I am using HTC HD2 with Android HyperDroid CyanogenMod 6.
I'd rather see this baked into CM myself, but this feature is actually standard in HTC Sense-based builds.
Anyone? Someone?
Am I the only one who thinks this is Extremely useful and basic functionality?
Also looking for a solution on this. Have you maybe found one?
Running CM 6.1.1 on HTC Desire Z
Greetings!
Hi, on HTC Desire (HD & Z) you can set the lock time out in the "lock" menu independently of the screen on/off setting
Does anybody know of a fix for e.g. Galaxy S
any luck, any help?
You can use a widget to enable or disable pin lock, and have the auto lock set on a low time.
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tincmulc said:
You can use a widget to enable or disable pin lock, and have the auto lock set on a low time.
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Can you recommend any specific apps that do that?
(surprisingly, this is still not a built in feature in the native OS).
So i was thinking of disabling the ring lock screen on sensation so that when you turn on the screen, it takes you to home right away.
For now, there is no such an option to permanently disable it. But i realized that a lot of third-party software have this ability. For example, if u try Go SMS PRO, it gives u an option to pop up a window when you get a new txt which bypasses the lock screen, meaning that you will not see the ring lock screen when the phone is turned on.
So i am sure there is a way to tweak the sensation to get rid of the lock screen. At the very least, we can trace how GO SMS does this and make a small program or patch out of it....
but is there any one who knows how to do so?
Wait for CM7
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Isn't there widget called "No lock" or something like that.... I thought that worked, not sure though, I do like that ring lockscreen.
Try this ?
I remember uninstalling a lockscreen on a sensless Rom thru titanium backup. Try it out but make sure to back it up first.
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borodin1 said:
Isn't there widget called "No lock" or something like that.... I thought that worked, not sure though, I do like that ring lockscreen.
Try this ?
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Correct. I've been using No Lock since my HD2. Works great.
I just turn it OFF using Elixir 'Lock' switch and then using the 'Lock Screen Widget' to soft OFF & can use volume or power button to turn ON
no lock works fine. but im wondering how much battery it drains while its running in the background....
Ders is a way to disable it. Go to system/app and look for htclockscreen.apk and rename it to htclockscreen.bck this disables it and give u the orignal android lockscreen and if u wish to go back to sense 3 lockscreen simply rename the .bck back to .apk
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Ders is a way to disable it. Go to system/app and look for htclockscreen.apk and rename it to htclockscreen.bck this disables it and give u the orignal android lockscreen and if u wish to go back to sense 3 lockscreen simply rename the .bck back to .apk
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but i dont want any lock screens at all
I just downloaded the No Lock app and trying it out. It seems to work great for disabling the ring lock screen, at least it seems like I have found some a way to not have to fight to unlock my Sensation right now.
Does it also remove the PIN lock screen as well? I just want to get rid of the unnecessary ring screen, but still want security on my phone.
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Does it also remove the PIN lock screen as well? I just want to get rid of the unnecessary ring screen, but still want security on my phone.
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I just tested all three methods of security and yes with the pattern, pin, and password the No Lock disables all of them. So when you are using No Lock your device will not lock in any way unless you doable No Lock. Or if you use the lock widget it will look your device but it ask for administrative rights first.
Now there might be another app out there that will disable just the default lock screen but still allow you to use the pin, pattern, or the password. But if you still want some security you can try Smart App Protector (app lock). It is on the Android market and it is free. It allows you to lock any application you want to be secure with a pin, pattern, or password. I am about to test it out myself.
If you're using Android Revolution HD there are files you can flash to disable it
I tried No Lock, but nuked it after trying it out.
It had the function I wanted but had a bad (for me) sideeffect.
On incoming call, I reached down in my pocket and one or two of my
sausagefingers accidentally denied the call while picking the phone out
of my pocket. Everytime.
My Alzheimerbrain just could'nt remember to pick up the phone gently-ish.
So I'm doomed to be semibound by phone.
Hi
Apologies for not having this in the ARHD forum but I dont have the 10 posts yet to be able to post in developer forums.
I have come across and issue when using ARHD 6.2.1 and any app to turn off the lock screen such as No Lock, No Lock Screen or Delayed Lock.
Generally I would have the lock screen turned off (sense ring and security pattern) when I am at home and then turn it on when out or at work, but with this rom, or it could be ICS itself, whenever the lock screen is turned off and I hit any notification in the notification bar, the phone locks, I have to swipe the ring, input the pattern and then the screen is locked from then on, even through the no lock widget shows otherwise. It will then stay locked until I hit the no lock widget twice.
I have tried every no lock type app available, go locker, magic locker and none seem to be able to work around the issue. The description of Delayed Lock says this "Since ICS there seems to be an issue when using the "hide lock" method: When clicking on a notification, the lockscreen might be shown. Please use the "deactivate lock" method instead!" but this doesnt work either.
Has anyone else had the same problem and found a work around? Does anyone know if these apps work with Stock ICS on the galaxy nexus for example?
Any thoughts much appreciated, thanks.
There is an option in the ROM settings (in the security section) to disable to lock screen without the need for secondary apps.
It works like a charm.
You can switch back and forth between locked and not locked quickly and easily.
Hi, thanks for the quick reply. Do you mean settings\security\configure lock screen?
Thats the only option I can find in my ROM and if you configure the lock screen to off here, you have to re input it again to turn it on. Hardly quick and easy. It also doesnt bypass the lock ring which the secondary apps do, but maybe I'm missing something or ARHD is missing something from ICS.
What ROM are you running?
Settings/security/screen lock.
Its the top item on the menu in the security screen.
Choosr 'off'. Im on ARHD too and I use this setting so I guarentee it works. (Of coure I have Sense removed so maybe that is a factor)
It takes 2 seconds to set or disable the lock.
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Thanks skipjacks, ahh youre not running sense, I guess that's the difference as the settings are sensified.
What did you use to remove sense? I see there's an ahrd mod to remove HTC sense lock.screen that I can try.
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Thanks skipjacks, ahh youre not running sense, I guess that's the difference as the settings are sensified.
What did you use to remove sense? I see there's an ahrd mod to remove HTC sense lock.screen that I can try.
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Thats what i used
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Oh right, back to square once then. Because I flashed that last night and while it gives me the (less functional) ics lock screen, it doesn't change any of my settings so I still can't change the lock screen as you suggest.
Can you tell me what phone and arhd version you have? Do you have everything else sense still on the phone?
What do I need to do to have the pattern lock be the only lock screen I have? I removed the sense lock screen but that puts the ics lock screen first and then the pattern unlock which is a complete waste of time.
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Sense lock and pattern
Unfortunately I don't see a way to disable the HTC Sense lock since it it the only thing that protects the phones from input. You will have to unlock Sense before you can use whatever security settings you have applied.
The only thing I could see as a possiblity is removing the HTC Sense software but then what is the point of having the HTC One S? Most likely a custom ROM will be the only way to get the results you are looking for.
It is very easy to remove the sense lock screen. As I indicated, I already did that. Now the ics lockscreen comes before the pattern which makes no sense (pun not intended)
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I know this might sound like a pain, but using the facial recognition will also work, if the recognition doesnt recognize it goes to a pattern unlock.
You still need to unlock using the sense unlock or the ics unlock first.
OP, I'm not really sure how this is supposed to work, and I've never seen this behaviour on any ROM, ICS or Gingerbread. The problem is, how is the phone supposed to know that you want to unlock if there is no lock screen?
Let's say the phone is sleeping and the screen is off. No way to unlock right now. So then I press the power button to wake the phone. That doesn't necessarily mean I want to unlock it. Maybe I want to check the time, or see if I have any notifications. There needs to be a further action to tell the phone I want to unlock, which is the purpose of the lockscreen.
The pattern lock is not designed to BE a lockscreen, it is designed to prevent people unlocking your phone who are not authorised to do so.
kuroneko007 said:
You still need to unlock using the sense unlock or the ics unlock first.
OP, I'm not really sure how this is supposed to work, and I've never seen this behaviour on any ROM, ICS or Gingerbread. The problem is, how is the phone supposed to know that you want to unlock if there is no lock screen?
Let's say the phone is sleeping and the screen is off. No way to unlock right now. So then I press the power button to wake the phone. That doesn't necessarily mean I want to unlock it. Maybe I want to check the time, or see if I have any notifications. There needs to be a further action to tell the phone I want to unlock, which is the purpose of the lockscreen.
The pattern lock is not designed to BE a lockscreen, it is designed to prevent people unlocking your phone who are not authorised to do so.
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I completely disagree. If you press the power button, you want to use your phone. If you want to check the time, do that in the status bar or the fact that it displays on the pattern screen regardless. There is no point in having an action to tell the phone I want to unlock it.
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I completely disagree. If you press the power button, you want to use your phone. If you want to check the time, do that in the status bar or the fact that it displays on the pattern screen regardless. There is no point in having an action to tell the phone I want to unlock it.
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You can disagree, but that's not the way that Android works, and it never has been. It's also not the way iPhone works, for that matter.
The fact that it has been this way "forever", isn't an argument for keeping it this way. What if we had to press the power button 20 times to wake it up? Would you like to keep it that way because it had always been that way? No, you would've said it was useless.
I want to use some sort of security, but I don't because the way it is now it just takes too much time.
If anyone made a lockscreen that way, that UI designer would probably get fired pretty quickly.
The fact is that the trend is going in completely the opposite direction of what you want; the trend as you can see from HTC's lockscreen and also the ICS lockscreen is to display more information on the lockscreen without having to unlock the phone (time, weather, notifications, music etc). That decision is the result of customer feedback and market research.
So the way the phone designers are looking at it is (in the case of using a pattern lock or face lock):
Step 1) Information screen (lock screen)
Step 2) Security screen
I think the closest to get to what you want to do is install something like volume wake + volume unlock, so you can press the key twice in quick succession to wake the phone and skip the first lock screen, and go to your pattern as fast as possible. There is no way that I know of to completely get rid of the lock screen totally.
It takes about 1/2 a second to swipe the ring to get to your pattern lock, so I think "it takes too much time" is a bit of an exaggeration.
kuroneko007 said:
You can disagree, but that's not the way that Android works, and it never has been. It's also not the way iPhone works, for that matter.
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That's not true, the lock screen as he described it is exactly how my nexus one worked in Android 2.1-3. It is far simpler and provides all the information needed to either power off the screen or continue to unlock, in one step.
dscel said:
That's not true, the lock screen as he described it is exactly how my nexus one worked in Android 2.1-3. It is far simpler and provides all the information needed to either power off the screen or continue to unlock, in one step.
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I have always used a hidden lock screen with gesture unlock. So when I hit my power button, I see some basic information. No indication it is a security or lock screen, until I enter my special gesture to unlock the phone.
I agree with the OP, there needs to be more options. Can't wait for CM 9...
kuroneko007 said:
You can disagree, but that's not the way that Android works, and it never has been. It's also not the way iPhone works, for that matter.
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Android has NOT always been this way, CM7 definitely had this behaviour. Ie no pattern unlock = ICS lock screen. If you have a pattern lock, the ICS screen does not get used.
So + 1 for the op on this, I really can't stand having to unlock twice to use my phone, but I still want the security of the pattern unlock or the number lock or the face unlock.... Pleeeease!
OK, I admit: I was completely wrong. Very sorry.
I tried this on AOSP Gingerbread and ICS, and in both cases, the pattern lock is part of the lockscreen that comes on when you turn on the screen, as OP said.
The problem that you have is that the pattern unlock HTC's pattern unlock app, it is not the normal Android pattern unlock (you can tell by the icon design, fonts etc). So it can't integrate with the stock lockscreen.
The only way to do what you want is to get rid of Sense 100% (not just hiding it), and that means use an AOSP-based ROM such as CM9, AOKP or "JollyRancher".
kuroneko007 said:
OK, I admit: I was completely wrong. Very sorry.
I tried this on AOSP Gingerbread and ICS, and in both cases, the pattern lock is part of the lockscreen that comes on when you turn on the screen, as OP said.
The problem that you have is that the pattern unlock HTC's pattern unlock app, it is not the normal Android pattern unlock (you can tell by the icon design, fonts etc). So it can't integrate with the stock lockscreen.
The only way to do what you want is to get rid of Sense 100% (not just hiding it), and that means use an AOSP-based ROM such as CM9, AOKP or "JollyRancher".
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Thats what I hear! LeeDroid told me pretty much the same.. I normally would have jumped to go AOSP, but Sense isnt so heavy now and I quite like the framework, i.e the copy paste stuff, the browser seems to be more capable with handling frames etc.. I have changed my launcher, so I now get pretty much the best of both worlds!
But damn that forced lock screen!
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The answer is already there at the end of my last post. What you want is not possible on a sense rom, so go install CM9.
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Is there anyway to do this on stock android? My iphone did this, and s4. Have htc one m8 running skydragon GPE rom. Basically stock android 4.4.4 I want to be able to delay password but keep lockscreen. So when I lock my phone, in 2 minutes it will require password. Right now I can delay lockscreen temporarily but that gets rid of it completely. I want to be able to keep it. This post might sound confusing, maybe I should upload video of what I want.
Edit: Here is link to video: https://onedrive.live.com/redir?res...46&authkey=!AKu_zjrsBdzpVI8&ithint=video,.mp4
I know it is ios but I have my ipad set to lock 15 minutes after screen is off. The lockscreen still appears so i can unlock it but I don't enter password until 15 minutes after screen is off. I want to be able to set my phone to do the same thing except smaller time.
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patstar5 said:
Is there anyway to do this on stock android? My iphone did this, and s4. Have htc one m8 running skydragon GPE rom. Basically stock android 4.4.4 I want to be able to delay password but keep lockscreen. So when I lock my phone, in 2 minutes it will require password. Right now I can delay lockscreen temporarily but that gets rid of it completely. I want to be able to keep it. This post might sound confusing, maybe I should upload video of what I want.
Edit: Here is link to video: https://onedrive.live.com/redir?res...46&authkey=!AKu_zjrsBdzpVI8&ithint=video,.mp4
I know it is ios but I have my ipad set to lock 15 minutes after screen is off. The lockscreen still appears so i can unlock it but I don't enter password until 15 minutes after screen is off. I want to be able to set my phone to do the same thing except smaller time.
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in a samsung phone its simple: settings>lockscreen>lock automatically>set time of delay