What do I need to do to have the pattern lock be the only lock screen I have? I removed the sense lock screen but that puts the ics lock screen first and then the pattern unlock which is a complete waste of time.
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Unfortunately I don't see a way to disable the HTC Sense lock since it it the only thing that protects the phones from input. You will have to unlock Sense before you can use whatever security settings you have applied.
The only thing I could see as a possiblity is removing the HTC Sense software but then what is the point of having the HTC One S? Most likely a custom ROM will be the only way to get the results you are looking for.
It is very easy to remove the sense lock screen. As I indicated, I already did that. Now the ics lockscreen comes before the pattern which makes no sense (pun not intended)
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I know this might sound like a pain, but using the facial recognition will also work, if the recognition doesnt recognize it goes to a pattern unlock.
You still need to unlock using the sense unlock or the ics unlock first.
OP, I'm not really sure how this is supposed to work, and I've never seen this behaviour on any ROM, ICS or Gingerbread. The problem is, how is the phone supposed to know that you want to unlock if there is no lock screen?
Let's say the phone is sleeping and the screen is off. No way to unlock right now. So then I press the power button to wake the phone. That doesn't necessarily mean I want to unlock it. Maybe I want to check the time, or see if I have any notifications. There needs to be a further action to tell the phone I want to unlock, which is the purpose of the lockscreen.
The pattern lock is not designed to BE a lockscreen, it is designed to prevent people unlocking your phone who are not authorised to do so.
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You still need to unlock using the sense unlock or the ics unlock first.
OP, I'm not really sure how this is supposed to work, and I've never seen this behaviour on any ROM, ICS or Gingerbread. The problem is, how is the phone supposed to know that you want to unlock if there is no lock screen?
Let's say the phone is sleeping and the screen is off. No way to unlock right now. So then I press the power button to wake the phone. That doesn't necessarily mean I want to unlock it. Maybe I want to check the time, or see if I have any notifications. There needs to be a further action to tell the phone I want to unlock, which is the purpose of the lockscreen.
The pattern lock is not designed to BE a lockscreen, it is designed to prevent people unlocking your phone who are not authorised to do so.
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I completely disagree. If you press the power button, you want to use your phone. If you want to check the time, do that in the status bar or the fact that it displays on the pattern screen regardless. There is no point in having an action to tell the phone I want to unlock it.
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I completely disagree. If you press the power button, you want to use your phone. If you want to check the time, do that in the status bar or the fact that it displays on the pattern screen regardless. There is no point in having an action to tell the phone I want to unlock it.
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You can disagree, but that's not the way that Android works, and it never has been. It's also not the way iPhone works, for that matter.
The fact that it has been this way "forever", isn't an argument for keeping it this way. What if we had to press the power button 20 times to wake it up? Would you like to keep it that way because it had always been that way? No, you would've said it was useless.
I want to use some sort of security, but I don't because the way it is now it just takes too much time.
If anyone made a lockscreen that way, that UI designer would probably get fired pretty quickly.
The fact is that the trend is going in completely the opposite direction of what you want; the trend as you can see from HTC's lockscreen and also the ICS lockscreen is to display more information on the lockscreen without having to unlock the phone (time, weather, notifications, music etc). That decision is the result of customer feedback and market research.
So the way the phone designers are looking at it is (in the case of using a pattern lock or face lock):
Step 1) Information screen (lock screen)
Step 2) Security screen
I think the closest to get to what you want to do is install something like volume wake + volume unlock, so you can press the key twice in quick succession to wake the phone and skip the first lock screen, and go to your pattern as fast as possible. There is no way that I know of to completely get rid of the lock screen totally.
It takes about 1/2 a second to swipe the ring to get to your pattern lock, so I think "it takes too much time" is a bit of an exaggeration.
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You can disagree, but that's not the way that Android works, and it never has been. It's also not the way iPhone works, for that matter.
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That's not true, the lock screen as he described it is exactly how my nexus one worked in Android 2.1-3. It is far simpler and provides all the information needed to either power off the screen or continue to unlock, in one step.
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That's not true, the lock screen as he described it is exactly how my nexus one worked in Android 2.1-3. It is far simpler and provides all the information needed to either power off the screen or continue to unlock, in one step.
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I have always used a hidden lock screen with gesture unlock. So when I hit my power button, I see some basic information. No indication it is a security or lock screen, until I enter my special gesture to unlock the phone.
I agree with the OP, there needs to be more options. Can't wait for CM 9...
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You can disagree, but that's not the way that Android works, and it never has been. It's also not the way iPhone works, for that matter.
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Android has NOT always been this way, CM7 definitely had this behaviour. Ie no pattern unlock = ICS lock screen. If you have a pattern lock, the ICS screen does not get used.
So + 1 for the op on this, I really can't stand having to unlock twice to use my phone, but I still want the security of the pattern unlock or the number lock or the face unlock.... Pleeeease!
OK, I admit: I was completely wrong. Very sorry.
I tried this on AOSP Gingerbread and ICS, and in both cases, the pattern lock is part of the lockscreen that comes on when you turn on the screen, as OP said.
The problem that you have is that the pattern unlock HTC's pattern unlock app, it is not the normal Android pattern unlock (you can tell by the icon design, fonts etc). So it can't integrate with the stock lockscreen.
The only way to do what you want is to get rid of Sense 100% (not just hiding it), and that means use an AOSP-based ROM such as CM9, AOKP or "JollyRancher".
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OK, I admit: I was completely wrong. Very sorry.
I tried this on AOSP Gingerbread and ICS, and in both cases, the pattern lock is part of the lockscreen that comes on when you turn on the screen, as OP said.
The problem that you have is that the pattern unlock HTC's pattern unlock app, it is not the normal Android pattern unlock (you can tell by the icon design, fonts etc). So it can't integrate with the stock lockscreen.
The only way to do what you want is to get rid of Sense 100% (not just hiding it), and that means use an AOSP-based ROM such as CM9, AOKP or "JollyRancher".
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Thats what I hear! LeeDroid told me pretty much the same.. I normally would have jumped to go AOSP, but Sense isnt so heavy now and I quite like the framework, i.e the copy paste stuff, the browser seems to be more capable with handling frames etc.. I have changed my launcher, so I now get pretty much the best of both worlds!
But damn that forced lock screen!
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The answer is already there at the end of my last post. What you want is not possible on a sense rom, so go install CM9.
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I'd really like to see a couple of what I would consider to be enhancements to the standard 2.1 lockscreen.
I'm wondering if it's possible to make the unlock slider REQUIRED to unlock the phone because, at this point, you can still unlock the phone by pressing the Menu key again. This would prevent the phone from being accidentally unlocked if the Menu key gets double-pressed while in your pocket, without the need to set up a full unlock pattern. It would also make the "slide to unlock" bar functional, instead of just being nice to look at but pointless to use.
Additionally, I'm wondering if it would be possible to change the Mute/Unmute slider to mute ALL SOUNDS, including the media volume. The reason I ask is because those of us using the Touchdown Exchange application have the option to have the app read our notifications, incoming email, calendar appointments, etc., out loud to us using TTS, which is "played back" as media, not as a notification. Yesterday, while I was in a meeting, I THOUGHT I had the phone on silent. Then an email came in. Made me look like the idiot that I probably am anyway.
I'm now using a single-click app from the market that mutes EVERYTHING, but it would be very nice to have this feature built directly into the lockscreen.
Any chance this can be done? Anyone interested in doing it? Thanks in advance.
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I'm wondering if it's possible to make the unlock slider REQUIRED to unlock the phone because, at this point, you can still unlock the phone by pressing the Menu key again. This would prevent the phone from being accidentally unlocked if the Menu key gets double-pressed while in your pocket, without the need to set up a full unlock pattern. It would also make the "slide to unlock" bar functional, instead of just being nice to look at but pointless to use.
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why is everybody complaining about that. i still use 1.x (since a year) and i never accidently unlocked my phone.
but i think its good to have a touchscreen option. until now the menu button is in heavy use on my phone
skarboy said:
why is everybody complaining about that. i still use 1.x (since a year) and i never accidently unlocked my phone.
but i think its good to have a touchscreen option. until now the menu button is in heavy use on my phone
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This isn't a complaint, it's a request. The slider is there, so why not make it functional instead of just pretty?
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This isn't a complaint, it's a request. The slider is there, so why not make it functional instead of just pretty?
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Anyone interested? I mean, it would make better sense, right?
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Anyone interested? I mean, it would make better sense, right?
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I agree. it does make sense. Especially with the 2.1 roms. sometimes I hit menu multiple time and then i am depressed cause I didnt get to swip the unlock.
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I agree. it does make sense. Especially with the 2.1 roms. sometimes I hit menu multiple time and then i am depressed cause I didnt get to swip the unlock.
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Ya I feel the same way sometimes hehe
It would be nice as I like the pattern lock mainly because it forces you to enter it to EVER unlock the phone.
But I don't really care about having a complex pattern to keep my phone "secure". I always just have the pattern be a simple swipe right then up. The lock on the 2.1 default lockscreen is just as simple and I love it actually but I just wish it would always require the unlock action to unlock. Customizing it in other ways would be an added bonus.
I also agree about muting ALL sounds, that is what that slider should be doing in my opinion as well. Seems like it should I mean "Sounds off" to me means "mute everything".
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Ya I feel the same way sometimes hehe
It would be nice as I like the pattern lock mainly because it forces you to enter it to EVER unlock the phone.
But I don't really care about having a complex pattern to keep my phone "secure". I always just have the pattern be a simple swipe right then up. The lock on the 2.1 default lockscreen is just as simple and I love it actually but I just wish it would always require the unlock action to unlock. Customizing it in other ways would be an added bonus.
I also agree about muting ALL sounds, that is what that slider should be doing in my opinion as well. Seems like it should I mean "Sounds off" to me means "mute everything".
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Yeah. I believe all of this is possible. Perhaps put a setting in Spare Parts to turn these functions on and off? I don't know. I wish a developer would share some thoughts.
It can be very usefull, the double sliding on no audio produce the effect to activate the vibration mode
buy or download the free version of LockBot
u get the option to use Iphone/Hero/Eclair/Flan lockscreens with many choices of backgrounds ect..
and it allows u to NEED to slide to unlock has alot of options.
i use LockBot Pro very useful app
How exactly do you "accidentally" press menu?
I keep my phone in my pocket separate of any objects that could possibly press and buttons.But the amount of force and accuracy would be needed just to hit the button. Just press power,home,call and then swipe its pretty simple.
EkostonS said:
buy or download the free version of LockBot
u get the option to use Iphone/Hero/Eclair/Flan lockscreens with many choices of backgrounds ect..
and it allows u to NEED to slide to unlock has alot of options.
i use LockBot Pro very useful app
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With lockbot all you have to do is hold down the home button and switch to a different app and then boom..lockbot has now become usless
@ OP It is possible to do. I had a BB 9530 and they had the pattern lock ust like the g1. what they dide was disable the buttons except for end key. Im not a dev but I dont think it would be that hard to implement this ina rom
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How exactly do you "accidentally" press menu?
I keep my phone in my pocket separate of any objects that could possibly press and buttons.But the amount of force and accuracy would be needed just to hit the button. Just press power,home,call and then swipe its pretty simple.
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Moreover, both Magic and Dream have a chin lol; it's really unlikely that menu button would be spontaneously pressed; pressed twice is just nonsense!
dreamhunterr said:
Moreover, both Magic and Dream have a chin lol; it's really unlikely that menu button would be spontaneously pressed; pressed twice is just nonsense!
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Listen guys, I appreciate the feedback, but this thread isn't about alternative solutions. And talking about how YOU don't unlock the phone with accidental double-presses of the Menu key doesn't help here either. Some of us do. Keep in mind that some people carry their phones differently than others. All of us have different lives, and our days might present situations and conditions under which our pockets/phones can get bumped or pressed against. It can happen. But, even if you don't have an issue with double-pressing the Menu key, wouldn't it just be nice to have a BUILT-IN lockscreen that is more functional than it is pretty to look at?
Also, suggesting Market apps, paid or not, does NOT help. I'd really like the EXISTING 2.1 lockscreen to be more functional. If someone is willing to try implementing this, it would be nice to be able to turn these settings on/off using Spare Parts or adding additional menu options under the phone's Settings --> Location & security.
i would have to say i agree with the OP, although i do love the 2.x unlock pattern page now because it has the time and charging status, before i would have to hit menu to get the screen to come on, then back (if i dont need to unlock) to get the time...this way is so much better!!!
+1 for the OP
I also often unlock my phone when it's in my pocket -- I guess I'm just an active dude.
Helloooooooo developers! Chime in please.
catch me if u can!
Doesnt look like any devs are interested in this...mainly because there will be a new lockscreen probably when gingerbread drops
Your best bet would be to pm somebody you know has done work on lockscreens (i.e. Stericson) but like i said there will probably be a whole new lockscreen anytime now
This ROM says that the menu button doesn't work when the screen is unlocked. i personally haven't tried it out, but this might be what you're looking for.
i dont understand the "accident" part. lol i love how i can unlock by pressing menu and by sliding. i live in chicago. when its cold as hell outside and im walking down the street wearing gloves. i can still unlock my phone and make a call.
hope it never goes away.
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i dont understand the "accident" part. lol i love how i can unlock by pressing menu and by sliding. i live in chicago. when its cold as hell outside and im walking down the street wearing gloves. i can still unlock my phone and make a call.
hope it never goes away.
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Like I said, I don't want the "double menu press to unlock" function to be removed, I just want a feature to be ABLE to disable it if the end user wishes to do so.
hey guys,
any of you found an app to replace the swipe unlock for the unlock pattern, rather than having both?
not urgent as this is the best phone I've ever had, but would be a nice touch.
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not possible buddy sorry
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not possible buddy sorry
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You're right... but it's such a shame don't you think... really no need for the swipe, if you have the pattern....
I thought that was the case...
May look into how hard it will be to create an app to do it
The swipe unlock can be replaced with iphone/hero/donut/eclair style unlocking using the lockbot app. So I think an app should be able to solve this (However I'm not capable of making suck apps).
there is a free app called "No Lock" which simply disables the lock screen apparently. If you have the pattern lock underneath this then i guess you would just get that.
i haven't tried this, but just came across it by accident and it reminded me of this thread
Thanks for that, but no luck
It disables both the lock and the unlock screens (if that makes sense)
It is quite handy if you are at home and have the phone on a table and having a text conversation where you keep turning the screen on and off, but not quite what I wanted
I wonder if this is something that could be built on top of to give us what we want, I will email the Dev of this app and see what they say about it.
I will update when I know more
Right then guys, I have had a response from BoD
I sent them this:
Good afternoon,
I have downloaded the no lock app for android. It is great app, however, there are quite a few users of android who would like to see an app that would remove the lock screen but keep the pattern unlock screen or pin screen etc. Im hoping you are open to suggestions, and as you have created the app to remove the lock screens completely (which is pretty much halfway there), I was wondering if you were thinking of creating an app capable of this?
If you are and would like beta testers, I'm sure i could get a few volenteers together to do so.
Thanks,
To which they responded (very quickly too):
Hi!
Unfortunately there is no way (that I know of) to do that currently.
I hope you'll enjoy the app anyway.
Have a nice day,
So.... It looks like they are not aware of how this can be done, IF it can be done, which is a shame.
Thanks sungrad for pointing the app out though
no probs sorry it wasn't much use
it exists in the security settings in the phone (pattern lock ) just enable it
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it exists in the security settings in the phone (pattern lock ) just enable it
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I have the pattern unlock enabled.
The problem is that to unlock my phone now I have the swipe (with the triangle and the curve) and the pattern unlock. I want the pattern unlock to replace the swipe unlock, rather than be requested as well as the swipe unlock.
It's only a minor issue I have, but it does get annoying when you are using it a lot (text conversation etc)
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I have the pattern unlock enabled.
The problem is that to unlock my phone now I have the swipe (with the triangle and the curve) and the pattern unlock. I want the pattern unlock to replace the swipe unlock, rather than be requested as well as the swipe unlock.
It's only a minor issue I have, but it does get annoying when you are using it a lot (text conversation etc)
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it is really annoying but i have an idea the application mananger if we could know its name we could deactivate it like what they do with htc devices they deactivated htc sense
nobody has a solution for that?
Not exactly what you're after but there are widgets that toggle the unlock pattern off/on. You could toggle the unlock pattern off when texting so you only have to do the swipe. SwitchPro Widget has this feature but I haven't tested it with X10.
EDIT: Found this. It may be what you're after http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.brandongoodman.smartlock
Bump? I just wonder if anyone found a solution to this? I would really want what the OP states
just wanted to add... be careful with the "pattern lock" ... it literally disables your phone after 5 wrong pattern tries. I nearly did a system wipe just to unlock it.. Luckily for me it accepted my email account with "null" for password to re-enable it
I had that no lock app and it looked nice and handy but it messed with the pattern and slide default unlock when I went to uninstall, all I wanted was the pattern but no matter what way I set it,the swipe unlock would always be there, after loads of reboots and setting/unsetting a lock pattern it still did`nt work, this is after I uninstalled, after I dont know how many reboots even when I had the pattern enabled the swipe would come up first then the pattern, sometime only the swipe, it worked itself out, so be cautious of it....
I have searched everywhere and I cannot find how to stop the normal unlock method and ONLY use the pattern to unlock the screen. I don't like having two unlock screens and I would like to use the pattern unlock. Is this possible without being built into a rom? I would prefer to remove the necessary files from the phone instead of installing new apps but anything is better than nothing right now.
On my hero i attempted to remove the sense unlock screen only to be greeted with the vanilla lockscreen.
I also tried using screenmodewidget but it disables both the lockscreen and pattern unlock.
Yeah, apps like "No Lock" do the same thing. Ugh.
Is this possible within a custom rom? anyone?
Id like this also, the pattern screen is a much sleeker looking screen than the standard unlock
it really makes no sense to have both
but no one can tell me how to make it just pattern lol
menu>settings>security>set unlock pattern.
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menu>settings>security>set unlock pattern.
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yes thats how you set it lol, how do i disable the HTC and vanilla lockscreens while keeping the pattern one?
davebu said:
yes thats how you set it lol, how do i disable the HTC and vanilla lockscreens while keeping the pattern one?
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LOL, i didn't realize that it showed the htc thing still. it shouldn't. it should just be the pattern showing when you turn the screen on.
sorry, until someone actually writes a 2.1 ROM for this phone (i think the only reason someone hasn't is because the 4g kernel stuff hasn't been released yet, even tho 2.1 aosp has), you may be stuck with that...
weird tho...i don't think my girlbuddy's incredible does that, and it's sense too...
here's a quick work-around to kind of have only pattern lock. So when the normal lock screen comes on, just hit the "Menu" key and that'll go away, now you have just the pattern lock. This way it seems quicker for me.
BTW, i'm using the nonSense ROM, so it comes with standard Droid lock with the lock on left and speaker on right.
throttle unlock:
http://www.throttlelauncher.com/portal/Table/Products/ThrottleLock/
Vrasidas said:
throttle unlock:
http://www.throttlelauncher.com/portal/Table/Products/ThrottleLock/
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Might be nice except....
"Prerequisites
* WM 5 / 6 / 6.1/ 6.5. Device."
Evos are android phones, not WinMobile
Its Really Easy to remove the HTC Lock Screen from your Sensation!
You Will Need Root To Do This!
I was getting lag when tring to un-lock the phone..
So all I did was rename the: htclockscreen.apk - to: htclockscreen.bck
And Now I have a lag free Lock Screen
i have no lag since 2.3.4 .. not to mention rooting sensation is direct contradiction to "Realy easy"
Thanks. I don't know that I've had any real lag issues, but I do like the option of getting rid of the "lock ring" lock screen and going with the standard Android lock screen.
I haven't decided whether to keep it like this or not, but I kind of like it.
I'll have to adjust to using a swipe across the screen instead of bottom to top to unlock though.
EDIT: Neat . . . it displays Charging (xx%) on this lock screen. That's kind of handy.
You guys are Ca-razy. The lock ring lock screen with the ability to instantly go to one of four frequently used apps is one of the main reasons I got this phone.
And as for lag, I have absolutely none with the standard lock screen.
And now you have to unlock to answer a phone call?
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And now you have to unlock to answer a phone call?
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I didn't notice that until just a few minutes ago. (Hadn't gotten any calls 'til then).
I'm back to the original .
I hate the lock screen in general so I use "No Lock" from the market (it is free). Now I just press the button and do what I need to do without having to drag a ring.
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You guys are Ca-razy. The lock ring lock screen with the ability to instantly go to one of four frequently used apps is one of the main reasons I got this phone.
And as for lag, I have absolutely none with the standard lock screen.
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I agree, this lock screen is awesome. Im one of the few that can't stand vanilla android.
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I agree, this lock screen is awesome. Im one of the few that can't stand vanilla android.
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...and another one
ive been a fan of sense since the WinMo days, but 2.1 for android sealed the deal for me, been a fan ever since (damn you homonyms!!!)
and yes, the lockscreen for 3.0 was a HUGE incentive to stay away from vanilla/asop...that, and the clock widget
Using the latest nightly builds of Cyanogenmod I believe I now have one of the most secure lock screen one could come up with.
It basically involves using a picture of a real PIN lock screen as a background for the lock screen. Then enabling only a gesture to unlock the phone.
This fools the person trying to get into your phone into attempting to enter a PIN code when the real way to unlock is to draw your specific gesture on the phone.
I have attached a picture you can use to do this. On the one I actually use I even added a block of text that tells them who to call if they find my phone so I might get it back.
If anyone wants more specific instructions on how to do this, let me know.
The ONLY drawback to using a gesture lock screen on cyanogenmod is if someone calls the phone. In that event, you need to "slide to unlock" and the phone is then left unlocked. Oh, and no real emergency call, but who needs to do that?
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Using the latest nightly builds of Cyanogenmod I believe I now have one of the most secure lock screen one could come up with.
It basically involves using a picture of a real PIN lock screen as a background for the lock screen. Then enabling only a gesture to unlock the phone.
This fools the person trying to get into your phone into attempting to enter a PIN code when the real way to unlock is to draw your specific gesture on the phone.
I have attached a picture you can use to do this. On the one I actually use I even added a block of text that tells them who to call if they find my phone so I might get it back.
If anyone wants more specific instructions on how to do this, let me know.
The ONLY drawback to using a gesture lock screen on cyanogenmod is if someone calls the phone. In that event, you need to "slide to unlock" and the phone is then left unlocked. Oh, and no real emergency call, but who needs to do that?
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LOL niceeeee
i'll definitely try this on my iPod
emergency call is pretty important.
Awesome idea, just did it to my phone.
From my fist to your face, enjoy.
Good idea. My gestures a star
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Turn off the phone, and look at your finger marks on the screen. You will clearly see your gesture...
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Turn off the phone, and look at your finger marks on the screen. You will clearly see your gesture...
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Okay really not one of my friends is that smart, nor my parents
And I have like 6 gestures on there, on sensitivity 10 so no there's no way ;]
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Turn off the phone, and look at your finger marks on the screen. You will clearly see your gesture...
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You learn to wipe the screen alot when using the pattern or gesture unlock. But again, the numeric buttons still make them think it's a PIN and not something they draw.