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HTC Touch Pro/AT&T Fuze with Fido

Hey everyone,
I got an AT&T Fuze (Touch Pro) and Im using it on Fido in Canada. My data is working perfectly fine, my only issue is that my phone keeps switching from 3G to H every once in a while, I was just wondering why and whats the reason for that?
Also, I have a little exclamation mark (in a yellow triangle) in the top right hand corner right beside the 3G/H/E Icon. I don't know why thats there?
Thanks to all for the help!

No, that's neither yours nor your phone issues. Once you' re in the better speed coverage, the phone will jump to H or your phone is accessing the internet.
"little exclamation mark" is a "roaming" indicator.

Heres the thing, it jumps back and forth while even accessing/using data.
Is there anyway to get rid of the exclamation mark?

have you flashed the rom?

I would be interested in how to get rid of the roaming icon too.
I have tried all the registry changes to no avail. The icon, and roaming warnings for things like the weather app, remain. It's about the last thing I need to fix but I seem to be stuck.

Im using RRE's ROM. So far it seems to have fixed itself, but now Im having more issues. I wonder if I should flash to a different ROM.

Hi guys,
I have a somewhat related problem and I hope someone can help me out. I just recently bought an unlocked HTC Touch Pro (not the Fuze version) and I am using it with my Fido sim card. Everything works and I was able to setup EDGE on it, but what bothers me is it keeps saying that I am roaming (for example when I access the Weather app). I am wondering if this is just some sort of a glitch due to the phone being unlocked or am I really roaming? I also get that roaming icon at the top. I am located in Vancouver so I am not out of town or anything. I just want to make sure so I don't end up having a crazy invoice by the end of the month. Thanks very much in advance.

mu061686 said:
Hi guys,
I have a somewhat related problem and I hope someone can help me out. I just recently bought an unlocked HTC Touch Pro (not the Fuze version) and I am using it with my Fido sim card. Everything works and I was able to setup EDGE on it, but what bothers me is it keeps saying that I am roaming (for example when I access the Weather app). I am wondering if this is just some sort of a glitch due to the phone being unlocked or am I really roaming? I also get that roaming icon at the top. I am located in Vancouver so I am not out of town or anything. I just want to make sure so I don't end up having a crazy invoice by the end of the month. Thanks very much in advance.
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It's because Fido uses Roger's towers now, but the companies are still identified separately and therefore it thinks you're roaming. As long as you have a data plan, you should be ok.
PS. Depending where in Vancouver you are, you should be getting at least 3G (3G), or hopefully HSDPA (H), vs Edge (E).

xda_fanboy said:
It's because Fido uses Roger's towers now, but the companies are still identified separately and therefore it thinks you're roaming. As long as you have a data plan, you should be ok.
PS. Depending where in Vancouver you are, you should be getting at least 3G (3G), or hopefully HSDPA (H), vs Edge (E).
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xda_fanboy, thank you very much for the helpful information. I can finally stop worrying. I do have a data plan with Fido so that should do. However, this is the second day of using the Touch Pro and the only data network I get is Edge. The only setup I did to my phone is what is listed in http://www.iday.ca/2008/11/how-to-setup-rogers-or-fido.html, under the Fido section. Would you mind taking a look and see if that is all that I need to do? I really appreciate all your help. Thanks again.

mu061686 said:
xda_fanboy, thank you very much for the helpful information. I can finally stop worrying. I do have a data plan with Fido so that should do. However, this is the second day of using the Touch Pro and the only data network I get is Edge. The only setup I did to my phone is what is listed in http://www.iday.ca/2008/11/how-to-setup-rogers-or-fido.html, under the Fido section. Would you mind taking a look and see if that is all that I need to do? I really appreciate all your help. Thanks again.
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Please see my post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3192894&postcount=3 and see if it helps. I believe you also need to go into Settings>Connections>Advanced Network and enable HSDPA/HSUPA to get the full benefit.

mu061686 said:
xda_fanboy, thank you very much for the helpful information. I can finally stop worrying. I do have a data plan with Fido so that should do. However, this is the second day of using the Touch Pro and the only data network I get is Edge. The only setup I did to my phone is what is listed in http://www.iday.ca/2008/11/how-to-setup-rogers-or-fido.html, under the Fido section. Would you mind taking a look and see if that is all that I need to do? I really appreciate all your help. Thanks again.
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I also have this phone and live in Vancouver on Fido. I don't think it will work on 3G, or so it seems. Mine is not the ATT version either, just the stock HTC. Currently it runs fine on the standard network, although as mentioned i have not been able to get rid of the roaming icon, but have never been charged extra. Its too bad we can't use it on 3G, and if any can find a way, that would be awesome, id love to be using the full potential of this phone.
I think we are stuck with no 3G, unless there are any suggestions?

If your not using the AT&T Fuze, then you won't have 3G in North America. Don't worry about the roaming icon. Since the phone (or is it the software?) has no idea that Fido uses Rogers' towers, it thinks your roaming. I have the roaming icon as well, had it on many non-branded Fido phones.
I turned off 3G because I hate seeing my icon go to 3G then H at random times besides when Im using actual data and it seems that with 3G, I get worse reception! Makes no sense I know, I've tried 3 different radio's and all have the same issue. Im thinking if an HTC Touch Diamond Rogers branded Radio will work, then that would probably work the best. Anybody know if/where I can get it?

Professional Help PLEASSSE!!!! HTC TOUCH PRO Rogers wireless!!
I Cant get my phone to use HSPDA or 3G high speed internet. Its only working with EDGE.
Now ive been reading these forums, but i have no clue how to get the correct rom for my device, nor do i know how toeven install it or set it up if i did.
I know people are busy these days but if SOMEONE OUT THERE can please walk me through it step by step...ill marry you (only if ur a chick i dont swing those ways!!!!)
Id love to get the full potential out of my phone please help me...
HTC TOUCH PRO
ROGERS WIRELESS

Speng2 said:
I Cant get my phone to use HSPDA or 3G high speed internet. Its only working with EDGE.
Now ive been reading these forums, but i have no clue how to get the correct rom for my device, nor do i know how toeven install it or set it up if i did.
I know people are busy these days but if SOMEONE OUT THERE can please walk me through it step by step...ill marry you (only if ur a chick i dont swing those ways!!!!)
Id love to get the full potential out of my phone please help me...
HTC TOUCH PRO
ROGERS WIRELESS
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If you bought a stock HTC Touch Pro (non-ATT, non-North American) then you won't have the NA 3G radio frequency and you're stuck with Edge.
Regarding a ROM, head over to the ROM sub-forum. There's a step-by-step guide on flashing your first ROM. As far as which ROM is best, it depends entirely on what you want from it, and even then varies by personal choice from person to person. There is no 1 "best" ROM. Check out all the ROM threads (there's a Roger's specific ROM available FYI) and pick one based on what you like.

xda_fanboy said:
If you bought a stock HTC Touch Pro (non-ATT, non-North American) then you won't have the NA 3G radio frequency and you're stuck with Edge.
Regarding a ROM, head over to the ROM sub-forum. There's a step-by-step guide on flashing your first ROM. As far as which ROM is best, it depends entirely on what you want from it, and even then varies by personal choice from person to person. There is no 1 "best" ROM. Check out all the ROM threads (there's a Roger's specific ROM available FYI) and pick one based on what you like.
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I have a similar problem as Speng2, but I have the HTC Fuze which is the american ATT branded one. I unlocked it, flashed the NATF 4.7 rom and tried many diff radios and can never get more than EDGE. I used to have 3g when it was stock. I live in Los Angeles which is a 3g area. I get full edge signal but no 3g or HSPDA. I have a feeling it has to do with a setting. Pls help.

ipisbored said:
I have a similar problem as Speng2, but I have the HTC Fuze which is the american ATT branded one. I unlocked it, flashed the NATF 4.7 rom and tried many diff radios and can never get more than EDGE. I used to have 3g when it was stock. I live in Los Angeles which is a 3g area. I get full edge signal but no 3g or HSPDA. I have a feeling it has to do with a setting. Pls help.
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This thread was specifically for Fido, a Canadian carrier. I have no knowledge of the settings you will require for your carrier in LA, which is the most likely reason you are not getting 3G. I would try contacting them if you haven't already. Otherwise try and find a thread for your carrier, or perhaps check HF (not sure if we can post URL's to other sites). Good luck!

What if you dont have a data plan
xda_fanboy said:
It's because Fido uses Roger's towers now, but the companies are still identified separately and therefore it thinks you're roaming. As long as you have a data plan, you should be ok.
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What if you don't have a data plan? It seems that sypod has not been charged extra for Roaming... Does anyone know how Roaming works with FIDO? I just got the HTC FUZE and I don't want to have to pay outrageous Roaming charges. Any Ideas?

How to unlock 3g on a quadband Raphael.

I'm In India,
I got a Raphael this particular one :HTC Raphael
It has a Qualcomm® MSM7206A™ 528 MHz
with the latest stock radio : 1.13.25.24
And a custom ROM.
Now my problem is at the time i bought this there was no 3g in my country.
Now a few carriers provide 3g.
I can't access 3g.
I want to know if there is any way to access 3g by installing a PROGRAM or a ROM or a particular RADIO.
P.S: it doesn't matter if i can't make video calls(as no secondary camera) i would just like to access 3g network.
Please help needed and much appreciated.
PLEASE HELP
Thank you so much.
please help needed ( ihave searched all the fourms but haven't really found a solution, i have PMed many developers they don't respond. Please don't close this thread--> to mods. This is really important.

the raphael can handle 3g no problem. it's up to your service provider to give you access to 3g...

Try just going into the Comm Manager and enabling 3G and see if it connects.

mputtr said:
the raphael can handle 3g no problem. it's up to your service provider to give you access to 3g...
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rmcknight said:
Try just going into the Comm Manager and enabling 3G and see if it connects.
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My raphael is not unlocked or maybe doesn't have the chipset to recieve the 3g network please see my link !
I'm asking if there is any way that i can unlock the settings !
It is nothing to do with operator or comm manage.
Please understand the problem.
The problem is the chipset/processor not the Software or the operator
anyways thanks
PLease post if any solution...

When i first bought my TP, i used my old sim card (from my BA) which was only supporting 2G..so i had to go to the operator to ask for a new sim card that support 3G! once i got the new sim card i could get into 3G no problme....
check your sim card if it support 3G
also check the network setting on your phone (start->setting->phone->band and then make sure to select auto or WCDMA)
hope this helps

moh980 said:
When i first bought my TP, i used my old sim card (from my BA) which was only supporting 2G..so i had to go to the operator to ask for a new sim card that support 3G! once i got the new sim card i could get into 3G no problme....
check your sim card if it support 3G
also check the network setting on your phone (start->setting->phone->band and then make sure to select auto or WCDMA)
hope this helps
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Hey GUys please GO TO THE LINK I PROVIDED In the first post all this is not the problem the probles is the 706A processor provided by HTC which doesn't allow the phone to recieve signals beyond the 1900 band and the 3g signals are at 2100 band range !
And most of the Raphaels which have 3g have the 701A processors not 706A
I was just wondering if some senior member / chef / developer / a friend could help me.......
And tell if flashing a radio are a program will help this situation
Trust me it has nothing to do with operator, SIM , Comm manager !
Thank you all !
Please help if anyone....

actually... 3g operates not only on the 2100 band but also the 1900 and 850 band. It is up to your provider to allow you to use 3g. When I went back to thailand, the phone company I used "locked" 3g and my phone would complain that i could not connect to 3g.. until I called the phone company and I went through a series of instructions that "unlocks" my number to allow 3g.
You need to do a little more research on your question before you go ahead and tell everyone they're wrong. Trust me, providers can prevent you from using 3g capabilities.
The radio only helps transmit the information. some work better than other, but they do not prevent you from using a specific radio. Processors also do not matter since it is more related to the processing speed of the phone, not its ability to handle networks.
check this link to see that the touchpro is indeed, 3g ready, all versions of it that I know of. http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_pro-2413.php

mputtr said:
actually... 3g operates not only on the 2100 band but also the 1900 and 850 band. It is up to your provider to allow you to use 3g. When I went back to thailand, the phone company I used "locked" 3g and my phone would complain that i could not connect to 3g.. until I called the phone company and I went through a series of instructions that "unlocks" my number to allow 3g.
You need to do a little more research on your question before you go ahead and tell everyone they're wrong. Trust me, providers can prevent you from using 3g capabilities.
The radio only helps transmit the information. some work better than other, but they do not prevent you from using a specific radio. Processors also do not matter since it is more related to the processing speed of the phone, not its ability to handle networks.
check this link to see that the touchpro is indeed, 3g ready, all versions of it that I know of. http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_pro-2413.php
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Sir with all due respect and without being rude to you i have to tell you to READ THIS LINK BEFORE POSTING :HERE
And please note the network part and the part which says the processor :Qualcomm® MSM7206A™ 528 MHz :this processor is the processor which does not allow me to recieve the 3g signals.
And in my country my operator does not have 3g yet but would launch in december. I traveled to 3 countries in last 1 year and tried to connect 3g (with stock radio and rom and failed)
I respect you but i have to say you are "Wrong"
thank you
and please refer to the link.
And i have done all the research i could possibly do before posting a thread.
Thank you ( no offense meant)

ok. you are right. In this case, there is nothing you can do since it is the chipset itself. It is not meant to do 3g and it probably will not do 3g unless you go in and try to mess with the bios itself. That would most probably brick your phone. So to answer your question, no it's not possible unless you want to risk bricking your phone.
the only thing i can say is that it sucks that you bought the version that couldn't do 3g, but there is probably not a way to change that.

It looks like it can not do 3G at all. Interesting, I didn't know they made Raphaels without 3G. It probably doesn't have any hardware to do 3G, just like the european ones don't have the hardware to do 850MHz and 1900MHz 3G used in the U.S.

petard said:
It looks like it can not do 3G at all. Interesting, I didn't know they made Raphaels without 3G. It probably doesn't have any hardware to do 3G, just like the european ones don't have the hardware to do 850MHz and 1900MHz 3G used in the U.S.
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yeah. I thought all touch pro phones are 3g enabled. Well I would have to admittedly say that it really reeks to have a 3g capable phone forced at only 2g through hardware limitations.

guys 3g can be possible
if ppl here check this prior link http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_pro-2413.php
it will show that the release date is june 08 so it means that the company at that time had 3g capabilities in the tp well i am from india mumbai and am using mtnl as a network provider well i had 3g enabled on my sim card 3g did not work on my tp but it did work on my friends nokia phone so the question of sim card not supporting 3g does not arise also asfaik it has something to do with the radio especially the protocol version which should end in something that is not 'G' so i want ppl who are reading this to post some of their radio of links which points to a radio ...

franci1s said:
if ppl here check this prior link http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_pro-2413.php
it will show that the release date is june 08 so it means that the company at that time had 3g capabilities in the tp well i am from india mumbai and am using mtnl as a network provider well i had 3g enabled on my sim card 3g did not work on my tp but it did work on my friends nokia phone so the question of sim card not supporting 3g does not arise also asfaik it has something to do with the radio especially the protocol version which should end in something that is not 'G' so i want ppl who are reading this to post some of their radio of links which points to a radio ...
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Hey do you also have the 706A procesoor ??
And guys it sucks that HTC dared to do this cheapstake thing !
Anyways my bad luck I'll change now only after 2 years so no 3g......
But on the optimistic side i love every other part of the phone specially the way flashing can be done like no other phone !
Its great !
3g would have been an icing on the cake though !
but HTC sucks with that !
Thank you all...

franci1s said:
if ppl here check this prior link http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_pro-2413.php
it will show that the release date is june 08 so it means that the company at that time had 3g capabilities in the tp well i am from india mumbai and am using mtnl as a network provider well i had 3g enabled on my sim card 3g did not work on my tp but it did work on my friends nokia phone so the question of sim card not supporting 3g does not arise also asfaik it has something to do with the radio especially the protocol version which should end in something that is not 'G' so i want ppl who are reading this to post some of their radio of links which points to a radio ...
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sorry francis. As I have realized later in this thread, based on the OP's phone spec, his/her phone is quite literally incapable of doing 3g because it does not have the hardware capability to utilize it.
sim cards, as far as i know does not do anything with which band you can use, it simply holds information like contact list and your phone number ID. Radio also does not matter as i have stated in an earlier post. Radios are like channels on a wireless router, it can send the same signals, it just depends on which channel works best with the majority of computers in the place.

mputtr said:
sorry francis. As I have realized later in this thread, based on the OP's phone spec, his/her phone is quite literally incapable of doing 3g because it does not have the hardware capability to utilize it.
sim cards, as far as i know does not do anything with which band you can use, it simply holds information like contact list and your phone number ID. Radio also does not matter as i have stated in an earlier post. Radios are like channels on a wireless router, it can send the same signals, it just depends on which channel works best with the majority of computers in the place.
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just for your information even Francis has the same set of TP with the same processor (706A) and hence he has the smae problem/ bad luck !
And we both need the same solution ( IF ANY AT ALL.........)
Thank you.

yes i realized that I misread the post and misunderstood your original problem. But in this case it seems like a hardware limitation. something you can't solve with software changes. Although I'll have to admit that there is a chance that a bios flash might do something. but you will probably run a massive risk of bricking your phone permanently and I highly doubt it is worth the risk.
Hopefully one of the mods here would know if there is a way around this. good luck

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mputtr said:
yes i realized that i misread the post and misunderstood your original problem. But in this case it seems like a hardware limitation. Something you can't solve with software changes. Although i'll have to admit that there is a chance that a bios flash might do something. But you will probably run a massive risk of bricking your phone permanently and i highly doubt it is worth the risk.
Hopefully one of the mods here would know if there is a way around this. Good luck
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shoutout to mods please help (but not at the cost of a brick)​
MOD EDIT: yelling will not help you overcome a device hardware limitation.

closed at OP request.

[Q] HSUPA and Data on Captivate Help

I seem to be having an issue with my data and am trying to narrow down the reasons for my problem. The issue is I CANNOT use HSUPA (H) for data, I always get a connection timed out issue. I put the phone in 2G GSM mode only and have data working, but of course I was spoiled with better speed I can't stand it.
My question is if AT&T could be doing upgrades to the towers in my area, will that affect my speeds, or is something broken internally in my phone. When I select WCDMA mode, it takes FOREVER for it to connect and says searching for a long time but does connect or displays (H) with 3/4 bars of signal. My friend has an unrooted captivate on 3G and has no issue with data. Does anyone know the cause of this.
I have tried a few different modems (jl3, jk4, kp1....) all the same and have tried 2 different OS's with same data timed out issues while trying to use (H). I am currently in the process of flashing back to stock to see if that will resolve the issue. Thank you for your time guys.

Thanontos said:
I seem to be having an issue with my data and am trying to narrow down the reasons for my problem. The issue is I CANNOT use HSUPA (H) for data, I always get a connection timed out issue. I put the phone in 2G GSM mode only and have data working, but of course I was spoiled with better speed I can't stand it.
My question is if AT&T could be doing upgrades to the towers in my area, will that affect my speeds, or is something broken internally in my phone. When I select WCDMA mode, it takes FOREVER for it to connect and says searching for a long time but does connect or displays (H) with 3/4 bars of signal. My friend has an unrooted captivate on 3G and has no issue with data. Does anyone know the cause of this.
I have tried a few different modems (jl3, jk4, kp1....) all the same and have tried 2 different OS's with same data timed out issues while trying to use (H). I am currently in the process of flashing back to stock to see if that will resolve the issue. Thank you for your time guys.
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H doesn't necessary mean HSUPA. It simply means HSPA (HSDPA only or HSDPA and HSUPA). You didn't mention anything about your firmware but I guess you are experiment with non-Captivate firmware and modem combination trying to get HDUPA working. From what you described, it seems your current firmware and modem combinations lacks 850MHz support for 3G (most European firmwares lacks 850Mhz) and your local tower happens to use 850MHz, not 1900Mhz. Just a guess.

Make sure you have the modern set to proper frequency (WCDMA 850 or 1900) for your area. The modem thread can tell you all about how to do it.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

Sorry guys, I guess that was an important part I forgot. I was running Andromeda and thought the same so tried Cognition 4.1.1. Also after going to stock 2.1 I still have the data issue. I can connect to wifi just fine, but no using ATT data will work.
I called customer service and walked through the steps as usual and after some looking into my area, he said there were 3 towers reporting severely degraded. It just sucks seeing my friends phones working with no issues. He said that repairs are stated to be finished sometime in the next few days and to call back later in the week if the problem persists.

Looks like you tried both i897ROM and non-i897 ROM, so it's not firmware related.
Did you try to put someone else's SIM into ur captivate? How about some other devices in ur area?

amtrakcn said:
Looks like you tried both i897ROM and non-i897 ROM, so it's not firmware related.
Did you try to put someone else's SIM into ur captivate? How about some other devices in ur area?
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I didn't think about trying my friends sim card. I will test tomorrow morning. Ty for the idea to isolate the problem to my phone!

umm not really related to your phone. but im suggesting its the tower upgrades getting them ready for 4G that is causing your phone to act up. i have a HD2 and we have 3G down here. but since early march i get nothing but EDGE. what happens in the month march? AT&T will be launching 4G in selected markets. it was confirmed once i was talking to a AT&T tech. so im just waiting to see what happens in the end of this month.
NOTE: it could also be your sim card having problems. AT&T replaced mine thinking it was a problem with the sim card since i have a AT&T native W350 and i was getting the same problems. call them up again and ask to talk to a tech and tell them your having a problem with your sim card. they will set you up a appointment at a corporate store. free of charge.

I did not think that the Captivate's hardware was capable of HSUPA?
Is it?

bobapunk said:
I did not think that the Captivate's hardware was capable of HSUPA?
Is it?
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there is a thread on how enabling HSUPA on the captivate. so if we can enable it im sure its capable.
heres the link if you want to read up on How to enable HSUPA on the Samsung Captivate

bobapunk said:
I did not think that the Captivate's hardware was capable of HSUPA?
Is it?
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it is capable but att blocks it to save bandwidth

hmm,
That thread has not been updated for a long time...
What would happen if I flashed that i9000 modem with a KB1 based Kernel?
sal2708 said:
there is a thread on how enabling HSUPA on the captivate. so if we can enable it im sure its capable.
heres the link if you want to read up on How to enable HSUPA on the Samsung Captivate
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bobapunk said:
What would happen if I flashed that i9000 modem with a KB1 based Kernel?
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you would have data, but no voice

Sorry for nor replying sooner. My 3G data seems to be working again. My lack of in depth knowledge is why I put the hsupa above when my phone displayed H I didn't know what to call it.
It must have been tower upgrades. I didn't restart my phone and left it on the charger overnight and the next morning I had no issues. I did a reboot of the phone as a test and connected with data with no issue. Too bad as I was close to getting a replacement, though it would suck and be my luck to get one with other issues. Mine is a 1007 and works perfect (other than the obvious GPS.)
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Pirateghost said:
you would have data, but no voice
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That is what I thought, thanks!

[Q] Activate 3G on the WiFi-Only version of the Xoom?

So Hawk2k8 posted a guide on how to get the 3G Xoom to work on another carrier. http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1016158
My question is, if we buy a Verizon 3G SIM card, can we use it on our WiFi only Xoom? What are the hardware/software differences between the 3G version and the WiFi version? Can we activate 3G on our WiFi-Only version by flashing it with the 3G image and adding a Verizon 3G SIM card?
Thanks!

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It is not possible to "activate" 3G mobile data on the WiFi Only Motorola XOOM. The WiFi only XOOM does not have the hardware required to connect to any mobile data networks. If you want to use data on the go, but only have a WiFi only XOOM I suggest you purchase a MiFi Wireless Hotspot device. Also, I would suggest you don't flash the system image from the Verizon XOOM, this could lead to a bricked XOOM.

What is missing from the WiFi version? Just the SIM card or more hardware than that?

jonnirage said:
What is missing from the WiFi version? Just the SIM card or more hardware than that?
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Doesn't even have the 3g radio hardware in it. You'd have as much luck inserting a CD ROM into it and getting it to work as you would trying to use it to get 3g service

jonnirage said:
What is missing from the WiFi version? Just the SIM card or more hardware than that?
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You would need to have a 3G radio.

lol he said a verizon 3g sim card. *slits wrists and runs through raccoon city singing we are the world"

jonnirage said:
So Hawk2k8 posted a guide on how to get the 3G Xoom to work on another carrier. http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1016158
My question is, if we buy a Verizon 3G SIM card, can we use it on our WiFi only Xoom? What are the hardware/software differences between the 3G version and the WiFi version? Can we activate 3G on our WiFi-Only version by flashing it with the 3G image and adding a Verizon 3G SIM card?
Thanks!
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wifi only has a slot infront of the sd card but no radio. do with that as you will lol.

you can use it to hold tiny crackers if you want

bahah why would they even put a place to insert a sim card on the wifi only?

znfrazier said:
bahah why would they even put a place to insert a sim card on the wifi only?
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Bwaaaaaahahaha no connection port there though. Just looked. Space there though. So i assume one could buy a radio and put it there. Lol.. or use it to store Barbie accessories.
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znfrazier said:
bahah why would they even put a place to insert a sim card on the wifi only?
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I assume making another bezel that would remove that slot but still have access to the microSD would cost too much to justify.

jonnirage said:
So Hawk2k8 posted a guide on how to get the 3G Xoom to work on another carrier. http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1016158
My question is, if we buy a Verizon 3G SIM card, can we use it on our WiFi only Xoom? What are the hardware/software differences between the 3G version and the WiFi version? Can we activate 3G on our WiFi-Only version by flashing it with the 3G image and adding a Verizon 3G SIM card?
Thanks!
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you could always use your android phone to wirelessly tether to your xoom. i just realized i can tether from my htc desire to xoom and have internet anywhere

LINKSLOVESANDROID said:
you could always use your android phone to wirelessly tether to your xoom. i just realized i can tether from my htc desire to xoom and have internet anywhere
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You've hit the nail on the head. That's what i do.. why get a contract?? I must say be cafeful. I'm pushing 2gb of data almost after only three days of about three hours of use tethered to my Mytouch 4G. Crazy huh? So if you're on a verizon or att phine tethering i warn you. Beware of overages or T-Mobile's 2gb throttle.
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i beg to differ
I have a wifi only xoom, and it does indeed have a sim card tray as well as the connectors. Now it might not have a "3G" radio in it as other have said. Which I find questionable. The reason is that i know these thing are mass produce, and as stated above, it will cost motorola alot more to produce a seperate line of production.
So it make sense for both version to have similar hardware. If motorola did indeed open a seperate production line to remove or not add the 3G radio, then they could have easily use that same oppertunity to disconnet the sim tray or it's connectors. Now lets assumed they don,t have a "3G" radio 3G being the main focus, could it still work with other sim card that are not 3G and don't require a 3G radio? Like the good old 2G or Edge.
If that't not an option, Well there are several more options. The same way you have to send the 3G Xoom in for the hardware upgrade to 4G, does that not mean you can shop online for a 2G, 3G, or even 4G and do your own upgrade. Because worse case they remove the 3G radio, the slot is still there the connectors are still on the motherboard. Ifixit has a tear down.
But I personally think it's all in the gut of xoom, motorola just disable it so that it can't be active. Am not a programmer, but I believe in the long run, the wifi xoom owners will be the winner. Why? Well because for one it was $200 cheaper, even if you have to buy a radio in the future it will cost less or maybe pull one off an old cellphone (jk). And you didn't pay all that money under contract for 2 long years.
Now this is all an opinion so I don't wanna hear anyone being super technical and breaking it down, cuz am not a programmer or a repair guy, but am a hopeful owner if a Wifi Only Xoom.

supremecream06 said:
I have a wifi only xoom, and it does indeed have a sim card tray as well as the connectors. Now it might not have a "3G" radio in it as other have said. Which I find questionable. The reason is that i know these thing are mass produce, and as stated above, it will cost motorola alot more to produce a seperate line of production.
So it make sense for both version to have similar hardware. If motorola did indeed open a seperate production line to remove or not add the 3G radio, then they could have easily use that same oppertunity to disconnet the sim tray or it's connectors. Now lets assumed they don,t have a "3G" radio 3G being the main focus, could it still work with other sim card that are not 3G and don't require a 3G radio? Like the good old 2G or Edge.
If that't not an option, Well there are several more options. The same way you have to send the 3G Xoom in for the hardware upgrade to 4G, does that not mean you can shop online for a 2G, 3G, or even 4G and do your own upgrade. Because worse case they remove the 3G radio, the slot is still there the connectors are still on the motherboard. Ifixit has a tear down.
But I personally think it's all in the gut of xoom, motorola just disable it so that it can't be active. Am not a programmer, but I believe in the long run, the wifi xoom owners will be the winner. Why? Well because for one it was $200 cheaper, even if you have to buy a radio in the future it will cost less or maybe pull one off an old cellphone (jk). And you didn't pay all that money under contract for 2 long years.
Now this is all an opinion so I don't wanna hear anyone being super technical and breaking it down, cuz am not a programmer or a repair guy, but am a hopeful owner if a Wifi Only Xoom.
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A useful suggestion! Nice one!
It might be worth looking into this?

supremecream06 said:
I have a wifi only xoom, and it does indeed have a sim card tray as well as the connectors. Now it might not have a "3G" radio in it as other have said. Which I find questionable. The reason is that i know these thing are mass produce, and as stated above, it will cost motorola alot more to produce a seperate line of production.
So it make sense for both version to have similar hardware. If motorola did indeed open a seperate production line to remove or not add the 3G radio, then they could have easily use that same oppertunity to disconnet the sim tray or it's connectors. Now lets assumed they don,t have a "3G" radio 3G being the main focus, could it still work with other sim card that are not 3G and don't require a 3G radio? Like the good old 2G or Edge.
If that't not an option, Well there are several more options. The same way you have to send the 3G Xoom in for the hardware upgrade to 4G, does that not mean you can shop online for a 2G, 3G, or even 4G and do your own upgrade. Because worse case they remove the 3G radio, the slot is still there the connectors are still on the motherboard. Ifixit has a tear down.
But I personally think it's all in the gut of xoom, motorola just disable it so that it can't be active. Am not a programmer, but I believe in the long run, the wifi xoom owners will be the winner. Why? Well because for one it was $200 cheaper, even if you have to buy a radio in the future it will cost less or maybe pull one off an old cellphone (jk). And you didn't pay all that money under contract for 2 long years.
Now this is all an opinion so I don't wanna hear anyone being super technical and breaking it down, cuz am not a programmer or a repair guy, but am a hopeful owner if a Wifi Only Xoom.
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Looking at the price break down for parts: google: xoom costs $278
it looks to be about $20+ for the 3g radio that they put in the xoom if they put that in the wifi models aswell they would be loosing all that money, im pretty sure they would not do that.. and it doesn't take much for them to set their assembly robots to not add that part in, also that could be why they are released at different times. Different assembly procedures. Just a thought

theres a mini pci-e slot maybe we can install 3g radio just like laptop

This is really a possibility for the wifi xoom?
I imported mine from the US to Oz, are there any differences in bandwidth between 3G US and 3G Oz?

http://imgur.com/a/61qp6#eno2T
good luck.

wyefye said:
http://imgur.com/a/61qp6#eno2T
good luck.
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DAMN!!!!
Back to the drawing board....
well i guess I'm stuck tethering with my iphone 4 via bluetooth

[Q] question about 3g xoom's hardware, please help me

Hello
i've asked this before, but nobody answered me.
please answer this question :
Motorola Xoom 3g (Not 4g), has a mini-pci-e hardware installed which enables it to operate 2g/3g networks, yes?
i'm outsite us, and i'm not a verizon customer.
but i have a MZ600 xoom , verizon branded, but not 4g upgraded (because i'm outside US)
i want to be able to use my simcard for 2g/3g networks for sms and gprs
but mine is not upgraded and as i know, it hasnt requeired hardware
now my question is, can i buy the mini-pci-e hardware installed on 3g xooms and install it on my xoom to operate my sim card? (as i found from other topics, 3g uk xooms can operate sim card for 2g/3g networks, sms/gprs)
is it possible or not? i want to use my 2g sim card for gprs
where can i buy a mini-pci-e gsm modem that works with xoom?
i'm really confused.
please help me.

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Squiz0329 said:
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sorry, but didnt understand what you mean!
please somebody tell me, how can use my mz600 for gprs

Look trough this thread, initially it concerns a slightly different request but it provides a wealth of info regarding that slot and which components Motorola used. And after page 4 some people have the same request as yourself but there is no definitive answer yet.
Anyway, have a look:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1095501

nobody know
thanks for your reply,
i've seen it before, but nobody know the card installed on 3g motorola xoom
and nobody found a card that motorola xoom can recognize it and operate it

just found this www.roundsolutions.com/shop/en/OEM-GSM-GPS-Solutions/HSPA-Modem/HSPA-mini-PCI-Modem
has android drivers!