Possibly switching OS's need insight from inside - Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a Samsung Epic 4G & I really love the device & the android OS but I was possibly looking to switch up OS's. I must admit that the Pre 3 & webOS really has my attention at the moment but so does WP7 with Mango. Would someone whose actually had a bit of experience on these 3 OS's mind giving me their input and maybe a brief comparison so I might be able to make a more informed decision.
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[Q] windows mobile 7/

Is there a way to run windows mobile 7 on a htc thunderbolt?
ide like to try it out if possible
curtisjhare said:
Is there a way to run windows mobile 7 on a htc thunderbolt?
ide like to try it out if possible
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Ban him now.
curtisjhare said:
Is there a way to run windows mobile 7 on a htc thunderbolt?
ide like to try it out if possible
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One question..... WHY!? Windows Mobile sucks... If you mean WP7 then no. It's completely different. Windows Mobile and WP7 aren't the same though...
There isn't a Windows Mobile 7. I'm sure he meant Windows Phone 7.
But to answer your question, a port of Windows Phone 7 isn't going to happen. No drivers, no interest etc.
Might wanna try the HTC Trophy if you want a Windows Phone experience.
If you want the look and feel of WP7 then try launcher 7 and the other apps from that developer. He is doing some great work
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I just came from t-mobile and the HD7 and I chose 4g lte over wp7. If verizon had a lte wp7 phone, I would be all over it.
Android beats wp7 in versatility, but wp7 wins in stability and smoothness. The UI being consistent throughout the phone is nice to have.
I have an HTC Leo HD2 that runs CoreDroid HD (GB) and WP7 and I can tell you WP7 is butt. I would love to be more eloquent but that is basically how I feel. But that isn't addressing the question at hand. I would tell you from a hardware stand point our phones can definitely run WP7. As we all know the first thing you need is a developer in your corner that is willing to get through the muck of having RIL issues on our 4G devices. All of the 4G phones on verizon as of yet are Android phones so I think that could be an issue. I am no developer and dont pretend to be, but merely from a "is it possible?" standpoint I believe the answer is yes. If my HTC Leo can dual-boot I am sure our T-bolt can as well. If HTC decides to release a 4G WP7 phone you are probably in a much better position.
stedrocklp said:
I have an HTC Leo HD2 that runs CoreDroid HD (GB) and WP7 and I can tell you WP7 is butt. I would love to be more eloquent but that is basically how I feel. But that isn't addressing the question at hand. I would tell you from a hardware stand point our phones can definitely run WP7. As we all know the first thing you need is a developer in your corner that is willing to get through the muck of having RIL issues on our 4G devices. All of the 4G phones on verizon as of yet are Android phones so I think that could be an issue. I am no developer and dont pretend to be, but merely from a "is it possible?" standpoint I believe the answer is yes. If my HTC Leo can dual-boot I am sure our T-bolt can as well. If HTC decides to release a 4G WP7 phone you are probably in a much better position.
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Just love when someone basically says something sux, but then doesn't give any explanation.
Sure its possible. They got android on the hd7 in china, I'm guessing the hardware besides the 4g radio is pretty similar.
nrfitchett4 said:
Just love when someone basically says something sux, but then doesn't give any explanation.
Sure its possible. They got android on the hd7 in china, I'm guessing the hardware besides the 4g radio is pretty similar.
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It's easier to port android than wp7. Not that it's easy, but it's easier.
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Nikolai2.1 said:
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that made me laugh, lol.
As for the OP, he should probably ask in the GENERAL android forums. You guys are aware there's a huge world of forums out there on XDA, not just the Thunderbolt and your questions will probably get better answers there than here if they're not entirely thunderbolt specific. I say that because it matters less if it runs on the TB and matters more if someone has gotten it to work on a HTC android phone to begin with.
However, they're all ARM based CPUs and lower level functions on the phone probably shares some traits with the windows htc phones so id say it could be done. However, I don't have any motivation to buy or look at a windows mobile 7 phone to find out since they're about as developmental friendly as iphones (which is next to nil).
If you mean WP7 then no. It's completely different. Windows Mobile and WP7 aren't the same though...
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They're not that different. Sure it has a different UI and they locked it way down from what it used to be on windows mobile, but they both share the same kernel family (windows ce descendants). Like windows 7 on the pc, it's called windows phone 7 because it's version 7 of the windows ce kernel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Phone_7
Lets port iOS while were at it...ridiculous.
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If it is bad as wm6 then it's horrible. Had to move to a blackberry from wm6 due to freezing and constant overheating... even with the development community. This phone has a great bunch of teams working on android... it'd be a waste to have them work on wm7 imo...
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I liked my imagio,after tweakin and oc'in it,was nice,limited but nice and stabile,to each his own,if one system was the fix all then you wouldnt have multiple platforms,just cause you dont like one or the other doesnt mean that everybody has to think the same way
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coliny59 said:
If it is bad as wm6 then it's horrible. Had to move to a blackberry from wm6 due to freezing and constant overheating... even with the development community. This phone has a great bunch of teams working on android... it'd be a waste to have them work on wm7 imo...
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I take it you haven't used a wp7 then since I had one reboot in 7+ months of use.....
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Lmao dude this made me laugh
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To be honest, I am a microsoft hater. They should merge with rim and the resulting company would probably be the most ridiculous entity ever.
Having said all that, I tried wp7 & was surprised at how nice it was. Probably would be great for non techies and women and children. Very smooth, intuitive and hassle free. not for me but I don't think its as bad as say blackberry is which truly is the bottom of the pile now by a massive margin.
Windows phone is not open source so it will probably be very hard to port to our devices. Plus people want sexier not simpler things so I doubt any dev will care.
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I would pay $1 for this. Someone is losing out on 10s of dollars for hours and hours of work
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This is like asking if you can change your Linux box to windows 3.5...
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@curtisjhare
If you are serious about a Verizon WP7 device, you should look at the HTC Trophy. Don't hold your breath waiting for WP7 on the Thunderbolt. The odds of that are about the same as iOS on the Tbolt.
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You can make it look like a Windows 7 Phone...

So WEBOS will be open source

Does that mean we might see a port on our phones?
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I suppose if they release everything like kernel source I don't see why not. Personally I'd love to see webOS on my nexus s
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I sure hope we do.
Not that I plan on changing to it permanently, but it might be cool.
I would PAY big to get webOS on the Nexus S 4G!!
I formally owned the Palm Pre and the Pixi. The pre had horrible hardware but the OS was beautiful, simple, elegant, and overall a pleasure to use.
So... I will lend my girlfriend for two weeks to the first developer to make this possible.

[Q] [2 ALL DEVS] Any chance to see WebOS/iOS/WP7 on NS/NS4G?

With the UnBrickable Mod?
I read that webOs was ported to the Evo, and many mobile Os can be flashed on the HD2.
So, is possible to see other mobile Operating systems on our smartphone?
Share your experience, i wanna know about the incredible world of mobile operating systems
Happy New Year 2 all the estimated Developers and all the members of XDA!!!
Not trying to be a ****, but why is it so hard to type 'to' instead of 2? Rest of your post is written well...
Happy new year to you too
Romonster said:
Not trying to be a ****, but why is it so hard to type 'to' instead of 2? Rest of your post is written well...
Happy new year to you too [/QUOT
Lucky you, you managed to succeed without trying
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So far, nobody answered my question....i'm confused
doubtful. Not enough interest.
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vetvito said:
doubtful. Not enough interest.
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Far from it. The reason we'll probably never see webos or wp7 on the nexus s is that neither of those os's are fully open source like android, in fact wp7 is completely closed source.
webOS was ported to the Evo 3D but virtually nothing worked from what I remember, making it far from useful, useable, or anything past booting really.
Ios - Never been ported to anything non-apple (as far as I know).
Meego - Possible I guess, but I dont know why anyone would bother putting that amount of time into it.
WebOS - Looking possible, its going open source i hear, but the nexus S community is only going to decrease due to the release of the Galaxy Nexus
Windows Mobile - Dead
Windows Phone 7 - This was ported to the HD2 as the HD2 was used as a test phone for the OS and the drivers got leaked! Microsoft used it as it was a high spec Windows Mobile phone. (It got android as it was very similar to other HTC phones that ran Android, such as the N1 and Desire)
Ubuntu - I guess, probably wouldn't be too hard to get going, why anyone would want to I have no idea.
BB OS - hahaha...
so.... no interest.
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I realize this isn't what you're looking for, but if you're just interested in emulating the WP7 look, give Launcher7 from the market a try. I'd also recommend using the Ubermusic music player with the optional metro theme.
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Anyone tempted to give WP8 a blast? (Lumia 920)

Well?
I've had iPhones, and I have had lots of Android phones ranging from Nexus One to my current Galaxy Nexus.
Android has come on a hell of a long way, but it still lacks a little polish for me.
None of the current crop of Androids really interest me that much (but I am looking forward to seeing the next big HTC and Sony), the new LG Nexus really doesn't do it for me (just looks like the GNex, still a crap camera by all accounts).
However the Lumia 920 has caught my eye. Its a desirable piece of kit, and with Windows 8 just around the corner too, it should start to see much better support and development. I am definitely looking forward to Windows 8. So it kind of makes sense to try on a phone too.
I reckon although the Lumia's specs are not class leading, WP7 was a very quick OS on my GFs Omnia 7 (considering how crap the specs were on that).
Anyone else tempted to give it a shot?
Yeah, for me it's also between the Lumia 920 and I'm also looking forward to BlackBerry 10. Both offer things that haven't be done before. Hopefully they will be reasonably priced.
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I want to try WP8 because personally, I like Windows 8 and I think WP8 will be just as good as Windows 8. I like the look of the Lumia 920 but it just doesn't cut the mustard for me... I'd rather by a cheaper Windows Phone to get a taste of WP8.
Looks like WM8 will gain a lot of market (in the future). The story is worth observing though.
I was looking forward to WP8... but it still looks like WP7 with a bit more customization.
Ill pass
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There's just too much between Android/iOS and Windows Mobile for me, will it ever gain the support it needs to be a valid competitor? I just don't see it happening I'm afraid.
I currently have a lumia 900 and what really breaks the phone is the lack of apps. Of course there's plenty of decent apps but there's still a lot of work to be done, for example: no pandora app, I use citibank and no app for that, etc.
I really like the OS itself and the how different it is to say iOS or android, but unfortunately the lack of apps makes me want to go to android.
It's kind of a vicious cycle, developers don't take into consideration WP because of people, people don't go WP because of fewer devs.
Not sure what microsoft is planning, but I've had the phone since it came out and there really hasn't been much change.
I was excited about WP8 but less so now.
I have had enough of Microsoft on the computer space. I don't want them in the mobile area. Actually, if Google were to create a real desktop OS I'd be all over it too.
HTC butterfly from japan is the phone I'm looking at. WP8 has no apps at all. It may of changed but my gf tried out a lumia 900 for a week and hated it.
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Yes because I will always love windows. People don't like change, give windows 8 and phone 8 a few months and people will adapt to the change.
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I was waiting for WP8, but now i'm a little bit dissapointed... We will see if there will be some useful changes. Hope they will do sth with multitasking. Its really irritating!
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I currently have a lumia 900 and what really breaks the phone is the lack of apps. Of course there's plenty of decent apps but there's still a lot of work to be done, for example: no pandora app, I use citibank and no app for that, etc.
I really like the OS itself and the how different it is to say iOS or android, but unfortunately the lack of apps makes me want to go to android.
It's kind of a vicious cycle, developers don't take into consideration WP because of people, people don't go WP because of fewer devs.
Not sure what microsoft is planning, but I've had the phone since it came out and there really hasn't been much change.
I was excited about WP8 but less so now.
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That isn't gonna change soon seeing as how Microsoft are ignoring their developers. They're withholding the SDK for WP8 till they release the OS officially.
I will try it, do not want to be left behind.
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Samsungs new open source OS

i have been blabbing and shouting about samsung going for its own OS. But most people here were like android is the big fish its free and found saying that samsung cant ditch royalty free android. I have noticed there move when they let the cyanogen community leave the exynos so easily.
Tizen is what i heard is the upcoming open source os by samsung. I knew the way samsung was growing the influence of TW on its phones.
It will be both good and bad for samsung to manage the updates google free and can be free from the limitations. But on the other hand ita development might be slow because of just one vendor putting it on their phones.
So instead of android becoming samsung. Samsung made its own android.
Tech keeping pace.....
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Is it something like Samsung becoming like Apple?
Samsung as a hardware Manufacturer so far so good. But as a developer of complete OS, I am not sure. What happens to 100s and 1000s of Android applications?
Edit: Google must have sailed 7 rough seas and moved 7 tough mountains to make android what it is now. (still it could not make it's presence on desktops)
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Well soon google will realize the mistake of going complete open source. I have also mentioned this to google before to make some properitery libs in the android regarding security issues. But google didnt listen. Now android should meet its competition.
Seems like now android wont have the best of the best hardware rather samsung will bring it on its own os. Thats why maybe they saved the flexible display and didnt plan to put it on s4.
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It will be a very sh1tty OS like bada i hate. I working a hundred or more phones monthly (in a service center since 5 years) and i can say that Samsung is the worst software developer company. All Samsung platform in the past was simple, as simple as crap. Todays Samphones (smart ones) are very good but they using other companies software as base. I still think Bada is a dead end sorry if there are bada lovers in here. Android has some years behind and its a real benefit. Finally sorry for my bad English knowledge.
I really doubt Samsung will launch an own OS; What could happen would launch an Android-based OS, but with another name.
Ugh.. Thisll be like badda os.. BAD OS!!! :/
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Have a Wiki read about the upcoming OS : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tizen
Using meego samsung is trying to do what nokia should have done... I always appreciate the good work. If they come up with something better i will definitely go and get it.
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friedje said:
Have a Wiki read about the upcoming OS :
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I hope I am reading the wiki wrong becouse it sure looks like a HTML5 based app sdk. Web based apps might look good on paper for developers that want easy porting but from a user experience perspective they just suck compared to native.
I will concede that Enlightment libraries are very efficient and fast, though.
My question is, do users really need yet another mobile OS?
bada+meego
yuck
android will do very well while it is being developed
who knows after that.
unfortunalby it's a near future for android being less used by companies, just look at Firefox OS wich is in the cloud completely(i'm not really comfortable with this idea tough.) and now samsumg... i just hope they don't fall in the WebOS failure it was...
phone networks in many countries wont support cloud based operating systems. It would require far too much bandwidth. Alot of countries,? especially poorer countries, still don't have fully 3g networks.
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steekyjim said:
phone networks in many countries wont support cloud based operating systems. It would require far too much bandwidth. Alot of countries,? especially poorer countries, still don't have fully 3g networks.
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Thats absolutely true. Bandwidth is a real issue. But the real deal is that one has to cope with the advancements. Lack of resources cant hinder the development.
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here all the phone networks use edge for their mobile internet. Good luck with that one. It might be possible for a cloud phone specifically designed for use in parts of the US and western Europe. But outside that its going to fail compared to native apps. Poor countries can barely maintain their existing networks let alone pump millions into upgrading networks for just one os
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The Ubuntu Mobile will kick all the OS's a bit back.
I am also positive for ubuntu. But the one thing i didnt understand is why ubuntu is so late in grabbing the phone platform.
the success of any new os is only if they allow the existent device to switch to their OS and not just the upcoming phones. Thats the only way they can grab a bigger marketshare.
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Ubuntu hasn't really been ready for a release to the average user yet.
The X.org display server alone is a huge problem, it kinda sucks, with the Wayland display server being developed there's more of a hope.
That and the fact Ubuntu in general is pretty awful to manage; every version since 10.04 has seen me go more and more into the terminal because settings in the GUI just vanishes or becomes more obscure.
Truth is the average user has no interest in using the terminal, except for various simple copy/paste'able commands.
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gszabi said:
The Ubuntu Mobile will kick all the OS's a bit back.
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LOL Ubuntu. Keep dreaming mate.
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Im also thinking that the ubuntu will get some success jn mobile platforms. The main advantage in the ubi is the linux kernel. I would not be surprised if it can run android apk-s like BBX.
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LOL Ubuntu. Keep dreaming mate.
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Too true.
As much as I think they're on to something with that, I'm not sure they've got even a clue how they'd get to Android style adoption.

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