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Can't overclock my Nexus S

Hey all,
I've tried on multiple occasions now to overclock my phone, using both the Trinity & Netarchy (1.1) kernel, everytime I have done so however it will put me into a bootloop, sometimes not getting past the nexus boot animation or lock screen, I'm sure that I'm doing everything right
1. Wipe data/cache
2. Flash ROM (I've tried Stock, Bionic, CM & Modaco, which I use currently.)
3. Boot
4. Flash kernel
5. Boot
I've no idea what's going on, I've just about given up, perhaps I've been handed a crappy piece of silicon, should have returned it before it was too late
Any help appreciated anyways, peacee.

Instead of flashing the ROM and then immediately applying the kernel, let the phone completely reboot. Then go back into recovery and flash the new kernel. Should work.

I've tried this already dude, probably should of mentioned it in my steps cheers anyhows

risegeek said:
I've tried this already dude, probably should of mentioned it in my steps cheers anyhows
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Which variations of the Trinity and Netarchy kernels have you tried and for which rom?

kenvan19 said:
Which variations of the Trinity and Netarchy kernels have you tried and for which rom?
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I've tried Trinity 1.2 > 1.4 on Modaco, Bionix & Cyanogen platforms
I've tried Netarchy 1.1 > Modaco & Cyanogen (1.0 was actually working but following the thread it wasn't actually applying the overclock )

risegeek said:
I've tried Trinity 1.2 > 1.4 on Modaco, Bionix & Cyanogen platforms
I've tried Netarchy 1.1 > Modaco & Cyanogen (1.0 was actually working but following the thread it wasn't actually applying the overclock )
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Have you tried Netarchy 1.2 yet? I've had a lot of issues with CM7, including kernels. Sometimes I would have to just flash the kernel 3 times and then it would work. Now I'm using MoDaCo and it is infinitely more stable. I've noticed the trinity kernels tend to be a little more volatile and hit or miss than the Netarchy one seems to be. If it is really of grave concern to you, if you live in an area where a return would be easily possible and if you are within your return period, return it and try a different slice of silicon

I've actually had this phone since release date, sadly I am out of the return period, I don't really mind all that much, this phone has been amazing coming from a constantly slow and crashing iPhone 3G.
I've just downloaded the new kernel from Netarchy, it seems to address stability issues regarding voltage, which I think it might be. I'll flash it and update this post in a second.
EDIT: Hasn't helped seems to be looping at the Google screen now.

Same thing is happening to me. I've had my phone since launch date and I can't seem to get it to overclock more than 1.3ghz (which is very unstable). It's so frustrating when people are posting pictures of 4000+ score on quadrant and I get a bootloop instead. I really hope they can tweak it so that people like us can run at these higher frequencies.

What the heck? I keep hitting edit but it keeps quoting =( please delete.

sanketrino said:
Same thing is happening to me. I've had my phone since launch date and I can't seem to get it to overclock more than 1.3ghz (which is very unstable). It's so frustrating when people are posting pictures of 4000+ score on quadrant and I get a bootloop instead. I really hope they can tweak it so that people like us can run at these higher frequencies.
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Have you tried Netarchy's kernel? A link to his thread is in my sig and it works great for me. It will boot you to 1GHz then using SetCPU (which can be attained for free on XDA, legally, just search for it. The Dev posted it) you can up the clock speed. You should take note however that the Nexus S is damned fast stock. I typically run my phone at 1.2GHz unless I want to show off to my friends and then I bump it up hehe
EDIT: Thank you also for not posting a new thread about this Its nice to see people using the search function!

Blah please delete.

I'm using netarchy's kernel right now at 1.3ghz but as soon as i go to 1.4ghz it crashes which is slightly annoying. 1.3ghz is much more stable now though.

sanketrino said:
I'm using netarchy's kernel right now at 1.3ghz but as soon as i go to 1.4ghz it crashes which is slightly annoying. 1.3ghz is much more stable now though.
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Odd...for my own testing purposes I've been running at 1.4GHz (testing battery life vs other clock speeds) since yesterday and haven't had a single crash. What ROM are you using?

I'm using modaco r10 and correction to my earlier post, 1.3ghz on netarchy's kernel isn't much better than trinity. Ran Nfs shift for 5 seconds and it rebooted.
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sanketrino said:
I'm using modaco r10 and correction to my earlier post, 1.3ghz on netarchy's kernel isn't much better than trinity. Ran Nfs shift for 5 seconds and it rebooted.
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Hmm, I used his 1.1v kernel on MoDaCo but never the new kernel so I can't speak to its stability.

Some phones are able to run up to 1.4-1.5 without issues whereas some aren't due to hardware limitations (different batch,build quality etc).
Most however, from what i read in the forums, are able to clock up to 1.3 with either kernels (CFS or BFS, versions types etc) without facing the issue of random rebootings.
Personally, i'm only able to clock up to 1.3. I'll get random reboots if i run smartbench with a 1.4. Quadrant is fine for me at 1.4 though. Was able to get ~3500-3600 scores but in terms of real life situations, i can't tell the difference between a 1.3 to 1.4.

Hey guys,
seems my thread is still alive I flashed the newest version of netarchy the other day, I can manage 1.2-1.3 quite happily atm - I have to manually use SetCPU after each boot though, if I set on boot it will loop
ah well.

[Q] No audio from video recordings...maybe ROM related? [SOLVED]

Update-Solutions added
This thread kinda rambles, and covers a couple different issues.
I'll try to summarize the solutions to each to time and eliminate extra reading for those who might end up here later.
Issue #1: My Mesmerize was not recording sound with videos
Solution: Go into Voodoo Sound Control app (download from market if you don't have it) and under [recording profile], select "Original". Solved!
Issue #2: I was having various minor issues that sounded as thought they might be fixed by flashing a new kernel.
scarmon25 suggested that I try out OTB-Reloaded. He was right, this is a great kernel! It allows overclocking and undervolting at the same time. I'm hoping this will give me both better performance and greater battery life.
Solution: Backup everything (Nandroid and TiBackup suggested), Flash the new kernel from recovery (you can use ROM manager to boot into Clockwork Mod Recovery) and reboot.
I'm not about to get into a discussion of backups, recovery, flashing, which kernel you need, etc... This is just a plug/endorsement for the OTB-reloaded kernel, period.
Issue #3: At some point while updating to 2.2 Froyo and flashing new kernels, ROMs, etc... my home screen started rotating along with my apps. I could turn rotation on/off from the notification tray, but that disabled it for apps also.
Solution: It was pointed out by add144 that it's the home screen launcher that controls home screen rotation.
I'm running LauncherPro, be he mentioned that most other launchers (ADW, GO Launcher, etc...) also have the ability to allow or lock home screen rotation.
In my case (LauncherPro), here's the process for locking your homescreen rotation while still allowing auto-rotation in other apps:
1) From home screen, go to Menu (button) -> Preferences
2) Select Behavior Settings
3) Uncheck "Enable Auto-rotation"
4) Done!
I hope this summary saves someone some time and fruitless searching.
Cheers!
-Mike
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Hi all,
I apologize for this question being a bit light on useful details, but my memory isn't so great.
I have a Mez, running 2.2 Froyo (updated from USCC), a custom ROM (I think), and a custom kernel (not sure which one).
I know that sounds insane, but there was a time a while back when I was flashing different things trying to find something that worked to my liking, and honestly just can't remember what combination I settled on.
It doesn't help that I'm still fuzzy on the whole ROM vs Kernel thing.
Anyway, here's the issue...
The videos I record on the phone have no sound.
You can hear a little background hiss, but no actual sound from the mic.
I can't remember if it worked before I updated to 2.2, but I suspect it did or I think I'd have noticed it before.
I guess I could flash everything back to stock and see if that fixes it, but I'd REALLY rather not do that, since it would take me so long to get it back sorted.
Is there a way to figure out exactly what I currently have installed on the phone?
Also, can anyone think of things I can do to troubleshoot the no audio issue?
Thanks in advance,
-Mike

This sounds like a issue I had on one of the earlier voodoo kernels. The fix was to download the voodoo control appear from the market and set recording preset to normal. This was fixed in the later releases of voodoo. Do you know which kernel your are on. That would help us narrow it down for you.
Edit. If you download the cpu spy app from the market you can pull your info up and see which kernel your on. It won't say exactly which one but should have the authors name in it so we can know which one your on to an extent.
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Thanks for the quick reply scarmon.
I checked my voodoo sound options (already had the app) and I don't have a 'normal' recording preset.
My choices are:
Original
Balanced (new default) - with DRC
High Sensitivity - with DRC
Loud Environment - with DRC
I assume this means I have one of the newer versions of voodoo sound?
I'll get that cpu spy app and see what it says about my kernel.
Thanks!
-Mike

Elmojo said:
Thanks for the quick reply scarmon.
I checked my voodoo sound options (already had the app) and I don't have a 'normal' recording preset.
My choices are:
Original
Balanced (new default) - with DRC
High Sensitivity - with DRC
Loud Environment - with DRC
I assume this means I have one of the newer versions of voodoo sound?
I'll get that cpu spy app and see what it says about my kernel.
Thanks!
-Mike
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Use original

Switched to Original, audio works now, thanks!
I wonder why the "new" profiles don't work?
Is it a limitation of this phone or a problem with voodoo?

The newer voodoo kernels have that issue fixed. I believe it was just a issue with the first few ec10 voodoo kernels. May wanna try one of the new OTB or imnuts kernels. The recording works on those as I have tried both.
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scarmon25 said:
The newer voodoo kernels have that issue fixed. I believe it was just a issue with the first few ec10 voodoo kernels. May wanna try one of the new OTB or imnuts kernels. The recording works on those as I have tried both.
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Good to know, thanks.
Is updating to one of those kernels you mentioned a simple 'boot to recovery and flash zip from SD card' or something more?
Here's a screenshot of my current kernel info from cpu spy...
Does that help any? I don't recognize that author.
EDIT: That OTB kernel sounds really interesting.
Please refer to my above question about the simplicity or complexity of flashing that kernel over the one I have now.

Yeah u flash in CWM. If your on voodoo and 2.2 then you shouldn't have any issues. If u go with OTB make sure to get the voltage control app. So u can adjust it. Just go easy on the over clock and undervolting till u see how your phone reacts. If u go with OTB let me know and I will post my settings. Been running them for a while and they seem pretty stable.
Edit. Switched to PC to correct my spelling.
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The above is what I'd try first. If you still find that you're having issues even with a new kernel, I'd consider flashing a new ROM as well.

scarmon25 said:
If u go with OTB let me know and I will post my settings. Been running them for a while and they seem pretty stable.
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I'll be flashing OTB shortly and would love to get your settings.
Thanks!
-Mike

K, This is what I have been running and it seems pretty stable for me. Keep in mind each phone is different and yours may not respond as well, or it may do even better then mine. I would suggest using the apply for now option in voltage control for a few days and once you know there good, you can apply at boot. Also nemisses included and great feature in CWM that allows you to remove boot settings in the event that you set something at boot and it doesn't work. You will get this once you flash the OTB v1.3 kernel. This will update CWM and the feature is under the advanced section of CWM if you need it. Here's the settings I have been using.
For the Scheduler I use BFQ
I set the Max Clock to 1200mhz
I have the following step and voltage drops enabled
200 mhz -100
400 mhz -100
600 mhz -75
800 mhz -75
1000 mhz -75
1200 mhz -50
With theses settings I am getting about a day of moderate use from my battery and great performance. You may play around with it and may get better results. Hope this helps.

OTB 1.3?
The thread I was watching only goes to v1.2 for OTB-reloaded.
What am I missing?
I also noticed that is was technically a Fascinate kernel, is that a problem?

It works on the mesmerize too. That's what I'm on. There should be a link in the OP that's has v 1.3. Its he second link at the bottom of the OP
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Okay, I think I see the issue.
I was looking at this thread, whereas I think you're referring to this thread, right?
What's the difference between those 2 kernels, other than the OTB version?

one is Touch wiz and one is AOSP. If you are on stock Froyo you need touchwiz. AOSP will not work on stock ROM. You posted in the right one for OTB. This is the one you need for Stock Froyo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1011626
The 1.3 link is towards the bottom of the first post.

scarmon25 said:
one is Touch wiz and one is AOSP. If you are on stock Froyo you need touchwiz. AOSP will not work on stock ROM. You posted in the right one for OTB. This is the one you need for Stock Froyo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1011626
The 1.3 link is towards the bottom of the first post.
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I don't think I'm on stock froyo, though.
As far as I can tell, I'm running SuperFrankenClean 0.292.
I base this on the files I found on my SD card while I was moving some stuff around just now.
In any case, it sounds like the touchwiz kernel is the one I need.
I'm downloading it now and will flash in a few.
Let me know if it looks like I'm about to frag something and I'll wait.
-Mike
OOPS! That should be SuperFrankenClean 2.9.2 ROM and EC10_ulv_voodoo kernel....I think.
Does that change anything?

Wait. Let me pull that ROM and I can tell you.
K this is showing to be used with touchwiz based kernels so u should be good to go.
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Yeah your good man flash away. As long as its a touch wizard kernel you good to go. If u used the one I linked u too then u will be fine.
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Awesome, flashing now....
If you hear a scream, it means it didn't work. lol
-Mike

Well I'm here all night so if it does go wrong we will fix it. But honestly you shouldn't have any issues
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Best combo

I'm tired of reading 60+ pages on each kernel and rom thread. What combo of rom and kernel seems to be the best? I know everyone is different but looking for the majority..

I using whats in my sig and couldn't be happier. Great performance and decent battery life.
Tap-a-Talked from my Mesmerize
Rocking Hienz 57
Ultimate Honeycomb
OTB Voodoo v1.3

It really depends on what kind of performance (battery life, speed, etc.) you're after, versus what user experience you're after (heavy theming capability, Samsung's default TouchWiz interface versus something more AOSP-based).
I personally use the Mesmerize port of MIUI with the FROIS 2 theme. Because that's AOSP-based, it's REALLY fast, and I don't even think I've had my Voodoo lagfix enabled for a while. It scans my SD card in seconds, whereas on a TouchWiz rom it takes close to a minute.
On the other hand, there are things broken with the AOSP ROMs. If you're the kind of phone user who can live without those things, AOSP-based ROMs can be VERY fast, and VERY pretty.
TouchWiz tend not to be as fast on the whole (YMMV), but they should pretty be rock-solid stable, and still over some fun customizations and themes.
without specific examples, does that at least give you a better idea of which ROM you should check out?

I am really looking for stability and battery life. With the company email always polling and working in a building that has a worse signal than an underground bunker my battery dies in under 8 hours. Right now I am rooted with a stock EC10 voodoo kernel. My big problem now is after being in an area that I lost signal, none of my texts went through. I could get them but not send. A reboot fixed it but dont want it to happen again.
I have been looking at the OTB kernel and JT's voodoo. For a ROM I have been looking at PnP but with the recent issues I have been waiting for the update. The H57 rom seems promising though.

Heinz is good.

For ROMs and burgers. Seriously though it is a great ROM. I couldn't go back to stock and be happy after having this.
Tap-a-Talked from my Mesmerize
Rocking Hienz 57
Ultimate Honeycomb
OTB Voodoo v1.3

Now the 5/7 version of H57 has the kernel included with the zip? So, wipe the phone and install zip from sd and should be good? If so, is it a voodoo kernel? I looked through all 25 pages and didnt see if it was.

1fast72 said:
Now the 5/7 version of H57 has the kernel included with the zip? So, wipe the phone and install zip from sd and should be good? If so, is it a voodoo kernel? I looked through all 25 pages and didnt see if it was.
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It's the OTB-Reloaded version 1.3 - yes it's voodoo

Sweet.. Got it Dl'd and going to flash soon.

Well got it flashed and seems to be working awesome. Only problems i have found is that the camera will freeze up and have to reboot. Changed the scheduler to CFQ and havent tried again. The first thing I noticed that I dont like is that the silent button on the pull down is not there. It has mobile data. I use the silent alot at work and wish it was still there.

I'm not sure about other roms, but with Heinz 57, there are a handful of lockscreen styles that have the ability to silence the phone (turn on/off silence mode). For example I know the Rotary and AOSP unlock screens allow this.
It took a little getting used to, but I'm liking not having to unlock my phone to silence it.

ATTENTION: Potential fix for sleep death

Ive had sleep death since day 2 of ownership....three days ago i flashed existz jvp voodoo gb kernel and have NOT had sleep death. I need people to see if this is a fix or just luck. If your on gingerbread, (NOT miui or cm7) try this kernel and see if it fixes it. I *think* its compatible with all jvo and jvp. Im on jvo and it works
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Appreciate the heads up fyi for us all. I'm running DG's latest right now but will keep this in mind.

I dont think it would work on newest cog due to different kernel source. This is I9000 based and cog is captivate based.
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Yeah, I just meant I'll keep it in mind for when I flash to a Rom that could use that Kernel. Again, thanks for the fyi.

topiratiko said:
Ive had sleep death since day 2 of ownership....three days ago i flashed existz jvp voodoo gb kernel and have NOT had sleep death. I need people to see if this is a fix or just luck. If your on gingerbread, (NOT miui or cm7) try this kernel and see if it fixes it. I *think* its compatible with all jvo and jvp. Im on jvo and it works
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I personally tried every kernel/rom combo out there and finally just had to replace my phone. I really hope you found a solution for your phone, but when I'd find a good combination for my phone it would usually start shutting down again eventually. Not trying to shoot you down, just letting you know my experience with the issue.
The only thing that actually put a band-aid on my issue was the app "Captivate Keep Alive". I say "band-aid" because although the phone was no longer shutting off on it's own, the battery would drain real fast, so it wasn't really the ideal solution. If you're still under warranty, I recommend just getting it replaced.
Thread with same issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731560

id10terror said:
I personally tried every kernel/rom combo out there and finally just had to replace my phone. I really hope you found a solution for your phone, but when I'd find a good combination for my phone it would usually start shutting down again eventually. Not trying to shoot you down, just letting you know my experience with the issue.
The only thing that actually put a band-aid on my issue was the app "Captivate Keep Alive". I say "band-aid" because although the phone was no longer shutting off on it's own, the battery would drain real fast, so it wasn't really the ideal solution. If you're still under warranty, I recommend just getting it replaced.
Thread with same issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731560
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I know the feelin...i was using softlocker...same as keep alive but without the atrocious status bar icon....if it shuts down on this kernel ill do the warranty....its been 4 dayz with no shutdowns and 8 + hours of phone idle nightly....lookin good so far
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One day without random shutdown, may be it really works.
I've tried many Roms and kernels with no luck, thanks

pexo74 said:
One day without random shutdown, may be it really works.
I've tried many Roms and kernels with no luck, thanks
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Glad its working. Keep me posted...day 5 no shutdown
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The reason you may not be having any sleep death is if the governor is set not to go into Deep Sleep. The Talon kernel supports OC/UV and that may be the culprit. However, my experience with voltage regulation kernels has not been nearly as stable as with ones that don't. I had to just replace my phone when I had the sleep death issues...good luck though.

Is sleep death a reboot. Ive been on oc/uv talon kernal and it gets reboots pretty often it drives me nuts. Always happens when i listen to music too
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trekie86 said:
The reason you may not be having any sleep death is if the governor is set not to go into Deep Sleep. The Talon kernel supports OC/UV and that may be the culprit. However, my experience with voltage regulation kernels has not been nearly as stable as with ones that don't. I had to just replace my phone when I had the sleep death issues...good luck though.
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I'm sure that is going to Deep Sleep, I've Cpu Spy installed in my phone.

pexo74 said:
I'm sure that is going to Deep Sleep, I've Cpu Spy installed in my phone.
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Same here
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Anyone have anymore feedback?
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Day 7 NO sleep death
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1 week without shutdown. O'be tried the new release of talon, and works too.

[Q] Best Kernel for battery life/stability

Hi I am flashing this phone for a friend and I come from the Samsung Captivate so its fairly similar. Only question I have and I hope someone can help without flaming me is which Kernel would you suggest? Im going with Infused 1.5.2 as the rom and I am just curious what pairs with that best? Thanks in advance.

jivy26 said:
Hi I am flashing this phone for a friend and I come from the Samsung Captivate so its fairly similar. Only question I have and I hope someone can help without flaming me is which Kernel would you suggest? Im going with Infused 1.5.2 as the rom and I am just curious what pairs with that best? Thanks in advance.
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if you're one of those "set it and forget it" types... i was incredibly pleased with the latest release of gtg's infusion 1.5.2 rom/kernel combo. very responsive, smooth and snappy. by far my favorite of all his releases to date for this phone.
if you're the type that likes to do a bit of fiddling for an ultimately rewarding end result, i recommend installing the above mentioned rom with bedwa's OC/UV kernel. i've had nothing but a smooth and stable experience with the two paired together. nothing but good things to say about both of these. having voodoo lagfix alone makes a huge difference. when you combine that with overclocking you get a device that feels much more awake and ready to perform. undervoltage allows you to use less battery power, even though the cpu is running at a higher frequency. really, makes a HUGE difference. cannot express how pleased i am with these two running together.
*i might also add that i've never installed any of the other roms. i have tried the defuse kernel with BLN was introduced(it has since been removed due to buggy issues).

bradbusa said:
if you're one of those "set it and forget it" types... i was incredibly pleased with the latest release of gtg's infusion 1.5.2 rom/kernel combo. very responsive, smooth and snappy. by far my favorite of all his releases to date for this phone.
if you're the type that likes to do a bit of fiddling for an ultimately rewarding end result, i recommend installing the above mentioned rom with bedwa's OC/UV kernel. i've had nothing but a smooth and stable experience with the two paired together. nothing but good things to say about both of these. having voodoo lagfix alone makes a huge difference. when you combine that with overclocking you get a device that feels much more awake and ready to perform. undervoltage allows you to use less battery power, even though the cpu is running at a higher frequency. really, makes a HUGE difference. cannot express how pleased i am with these two running together.
*i might also add that i've never installed any of the other roms. i have tried the defuse kernel with BLN was introduced(it has since been removed due to buggy issues).
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It was for a friend.so set it and forget it was my best option. He instantly noticed a speed improvement in the responsiveness using infusion. Thanks for the help.
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jivy26 said:
It was for a friend.so set it and forget it was my best option. He instantly noticed a speed improvement in the responsiveness using infusion. Thanks for the help.
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cool man. no problem. infused rom makes a world of difference in itself.

I've had the best battery life and stability on Infusion 1.5.0
Overclocked to 1.6, with the right undervolting i lost 3% battery over night (9+ hours)
I tried the 1.8 infusion but "OnDemand" stops working and thats my favorite setting so I went back to 1.5.0

I never had good luck with ondemand, along with most other users. Ondemand always FC'd on me
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