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So far every rom I have tried end up having very bad reception with 3G activated. The reception goes back to 100% with it disabled (EDGE)
Any idea why is this happening? Any fix out there?
what about your radio???
signal strength is more likely a radio issue than a ROM issue...
what radio are you using?
are you sure your radio is compatible with your ROM?
and finally....some radios Work better in certain countries...
this is a link to the "ultimate radio thread...."
read about different radios there and see what radio fits your rom...
you might also see members from your part of the world describe what radio gave the best 3G signal...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
the 3G signal is actually a weaker signal in regards to signal strength. That's why you are able to pick up a better GSM signal then you are a 3G signal.
This has always been the case and it's the same for HSDPA as well.
Keep trying different radio's until you find one that fits your needs.
UNhooked said:
So far every rom I have tried end up having very bad reception with 3G activated. The reception goes back to 100% with it disabled (EDGE)
Any idea why is this happening? Any fix out there?
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It depends on the band your provider is using and where you are. For example. In Las Vegas, AT&T is using 850Mhz for Edge and 1900Mhz for HSDPA. 850Mhz penetrates walls/cars/etc. much better than the 1900Mhz spectrum so Edge 'usually' provides a better signal. Which, by the way, means the radio works less hard and does not drain the battery as quickly. That is not the only reason Edge gets better battery performance mind you but - at least in this case - it is a factor.
In some parts of the country AT&T using 850 for HSDPA and 1900 for Edge so the tables could actually be turned.
As with many isssues - there are not absolutes - just a bunch of variables that need to be taken into account.
i a not trying to be a **** but what does this have to do with Windows mobile 6? this is a radio problem not a rom development issue, and to make matters worse a mod commented on this topic with out moving it...
I can only say what my own experience has been. In South Africa we have about 98% GPRS Coverage and about 94% Edge coverage. 3G(and HSDPA) however covers only about 40%. The short version is that there are less towers available that actually give 3G/HSDPA and that your device will switch to one (even if the signal stregth is lower) if it is available. The problem is that you have good GPRS coverage (Say 10 towers to a specific areas) and 3G/HSDPA have dismal coverage (Say about 3 towers to the same said area.
On the bright side, our service providers charge for Data only (Fast or slow it is the same price).
If I am not utilising the internet sharing feature I switch 3G/HSDPA off and have crystal clear reception ALL the time!
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i a not trying to be a **** but what does this have to do with Windows mobile 6? this is a radio problem not a rom development issue, and to make matters worse a mod commented on this topic with out moving it...
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Oh esteemed one...please grace us with your knowledge and expertise on the proper etiquette on how to handle every single situation on XDA-Developers.
I should have closed the thread but since this wasn't a question that is asked every day I kept it open for the time being. Sorry my vigilance was not to par.
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i a not trying to be a **** but what does this have to do with Windows mobile 6? this is a radio problem not a rom development issue, and to make matters worse a mod commented on this topic with out moving it...
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Seems like you're spending a lot of time complaining about the way things are run around here. I know everyone appreciates the useful contributions that you make. We are aware that you don't like a lot of things here, no need to rehash what you've already stated multiple times. Moderating is a time consuming and mostly thankless job, so maybe you should ease up a bit buddy.
seriously? whats the point of different sections of a forum then? why have Moderators? Sorry i am the only one speaking what i feel around here but it seems this forum has been a flame zone and a place for rudendent questions. Moderation is not that hard "click move post" done. there are some great minds on Xda and i have seen many of them walk away because of crap like this over and over again. How many radio threads are there?
if you would like to continue this lets do it over PM as not to waste space
Ok, enough already. This is a radio question. There is no radio forum so there is no other place but software and general. Thus it belongs with the other threads pertaining to radio's which happens to be in the Rom development section.
@ austin
I've noticed that lately you have been extremely upset with XDA. You have been a great developer around here and you will be missed, of this I am sure. With that said, you are more than welcome to enjoy YOUR forum.
All of my custom built rom's are released there, I made this forum so us real dev's can meet and share idea's and App's!! Trust me its NOT like XDA!
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If it's that bad, why do you continue coming back and starting things?
With all that said, "why can't we all just get along?"
thanks guys I'll give diff radios a shot. I usually go by what the Chef reccomends but just noticed that even after flashing Roms and radio reccomendations from diff chefs my 3G has always been bad. Thought I might have missed a fix out there like the keyboard fix for non-At&t roms.
yes lets all get along!
not like Xda is in reference to the ability to flame, swear, and do what ever else you like except ask dumb n00b questions
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not like Xda is in reference to the ability to flame, swear, and do what ever else you like except ask dumb n00b questions
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I read this,.
PM - For access to my private forum!!
-ROM's
-APP's
-DEVELOPER TOOLS
-TO MUCH TO LIST!!
All of my custom built rom's are released there, I made this forum so us real dev's can meet and share idea's and App's!! Trust me its NOT like XDA!
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and I read this,.
Seems that now you are blaming to XDA,. if its not like XDA, and your signature reader have to trust you about your private link, then why keep coming here?
Dont you have a better place there? that have their own Development tools? Apps? and ROMs?
Then if you have a better place there, then you keep coming here, for what? just to post unuseful post and so the reader could read your signature too??
haha,. its a bit funny right here,.
XDA-Developer have their believe and their developers, and so did yours,.
and if you keep blaming like that, i would say that,
"If your forum was that good, and famous with their own development tools, why should you promote it until you write "PM - For access to my private forum!!" more than once? is it quiet there? why should we go to PM? whats you got to hide?"
So many Site with their development tools, and developers, but those site just didnt need to promote like that, and you know, almost them all could be crowded, just without promoting like yours"
I grow up from XDA developer, if you keep blaming it (even you said that you dont blaming XDA, but your words, show me that) then i'll guarantee, that your forum was ugly, thats why you keep blaming XDA, because you are jealous of it,.
Sorry for bad english
Garmin
@ austinsnyc
Just going to stick this in before tread is closed, I visited youre dev. forum. Its full of warez and bad luang (not like me whit bad spelling typos but rude meaningless talk). I really didnt see how youre board will be bether than xda just by letting users beeing able to post warez and talk unmoderated ****? You been a good contributor but isnt you part of what could pull xda down? Beeing all negative and rude to everyone that looks up to you, we all are happy for you having youre own board. But bothom line if you going to be a ****head and just here to recruit why dont you stick to it? Really, this stuff has to stopp.
(now moderate me, but someone had to say it)
Now this is good reading!! lets take this into a thread of its own in the proper place
My sig is the way it is at Mods request thats why you must PM for a link
Also why not advertise, why not let people know that i am starting a forum that allows freedom of speech that includes "swearing/flaming/what not"? I like a nice quite forum thats the whole point, why would i want a bunch of threads made up of questions that are commen knowledge to someone with any type of Windows Mobile would know. Look this isnt about my forum lol, this about a post that had nothing to do with ROM development in the rom development section about something that has been talked about over and over and over again. I am not knocking Xda in anyway shape or form no matter how you may "read it" (Garmin) maybe your understanding of the english language is off? and you missed the point i was making!
Thread closed....nothing else important to add.
So we have Captivate:General Captivateevelopment Captivate:Themes
So how about a Captivate:GPS forum? Then all the repeated questions and repeated copy & pasted answers and all the basically duplicate threads can go in there.
Who's with me!
bwolmarans said:
So we have Captivate:General Captivateevelopment Captivate:Themes
So how about a Captivate:GPS forum? Then all the repeated questions and repeated copy & pasted answers and all the basically duplicate threads can go in there.
Who's with me!
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I don't think an entire forum is needed for GPS issues.
Uh... nah, I don't think it's necessary to make another section just for GPS.
bwolmarans said:
So we have Captivate:General Captivateevelopment Captivate:Themes
So how about a Captivate:GPS forum? Then all the repeated questions and repeated copy & pasted answers and all the basically duplicate threads can go in there.
Who's with me!
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+1.................
The first stage in curing alcoholism is to acknowledge you are a alcoholic.
There absolutely is a GPS issue and people need to stop acting like there isn't. A devoted section would help fix the problem. I am no expert programmer, but have the gurus here separate each section and find the problem. To me that would be pretty cool to see on the web............****Official Captivate GPS Fix Guaranteed on XDA****on Google news, before Samsung puts it out.
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****Official Captivate GPS Fix Guaranteed on XDA****on Google news, before Samsung puts it out.
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Except we don't have any Guaranteed fix. Only improvements, but certainly no "fix".
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+1.................
The first stage in curing alcoholism is to acknowledge you are a alcoholic.
There absolutely is a GPS issue and people need to stop acting like there isn't.
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True.
Technically the first step is "We admitted we were powerless over alcohol, that our lives had become unmanageable."
I agree, GPS on this device is an awful issue. maybie there should be a dedicated forum.
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Yes it is a real problem, but there is no official fix and all of the community fixes are 50/50 in terms of success. Even the problem is not fully understood.
How many different topics could the forum have in regards to GPS - it would just be a bunch of threads "mine works" or "mine doesn't" or "this is what i did to fix GPS".
I want to see what the i9000 gets when Froyo is released - which should be any time now. If Samsung didn't fix it then, I think things will get a lot more serious.
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True.
Technically the first step is "We admitted we were powerless over alcohol, that our lives had become unmanageable."
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LOL...................
-1. Just what we need, more clutter when nobody knows how to use the search button now. There are so many gps threads that I'm like 98% positive that every question anyone has about the gps has probably been asked and answered already
Very clever, but it would have to be a Galaxy S (all variants) GPS forum.
....it would put all the gps threads that keep getting bumped to the top in general into their own little hidey hole....
by the way, I'm happy with my gps, now that I turn off agps, clear gps data before I use it, and accept totally that google nav is totally inaccurate.
Instead how about a forum dedicated to coming up with ways to make Samsung fix the problem.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
I would be happier with a "Samsung and Captivate Suck" sub-forum. Most of us know the captivate has problems and Samsung is somewhat unresponsive, but we code the captivate because it was still the best choice for us. These repetitive threads choke everything useful out of this forum.
k2snowboards88 said:
I would be happier with a "Samsung and Captivate Suck" sub-forum. Most of us know the captivate has problems and Samsung is somewhat unresponsive, but we code the captivate because it was still the best choice for us. These repetitive threads choke everything useful out of this forum.
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Neither Samsung or the Captivate suck. Every device and company has it short comings but I've never been displeased with any of the 4 Samsung phones I've owned (spanning at least 6 years), and certainly not the Captivate. Without a doubt it's the greatest phone I've ever owned. Yes, the GPS sucked, but it's a phone, it's for making phone calls and sending texts. Who would have thought we'd be putting GPS in our phones back in 2005?
I really wanted mine to work- it is a great phone, with a lot of flaws. Core flaws.
GPS
Screen tint variations(minor but none the less it's there)
File system/need for lag fix
Random shut downs for some
It had a lot of positives though. I honestly would have kept mine if it weren't for the random shut downs and having to deal with Att for hours at a time just to get a warranty replacement only to hope it doesn't start shutting down 3 weeks later.
why not just make a poll
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I would be happier with a "Samsung and Captivate Suck" sub-forum. Most of us know the captivate has problems and Samsung is somewhat unresponsive, but we code the captivate because it was still the best choice for us. These repetitive threads choke everything useful out of this forum.
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Ah shaddap
The awesome thinness and lightness does not suck.
The big screen and stunning video playback doesn't suck.
It also doesn't suck for games at alll ... it rocks for games!
The sound is excellent, loud speaker, it has very clear voice conversations.
Dialing is very good.
It boots nice and fast.
But it sure does sucks for parsing urls in email and calendar and the gps does suck in about every way a gps can suck, that's for sure.
No GAL lookup sucks.
No editing of emails people send you sucks.
No touch-drag copy-paste sucks.
I also hate the fact the usb is on the top.
woah WAIT eh you say this isn't a rant thread whu ?
I think my post has been misinterpreted. I want a "samsung sucks" forum so all those threads can be caged there. Then I could easily ignore them and only read real questions and constructive threads in the "general" forum.
I am asking all please don't attack me for posting this as I am but I am desperate....
Hi, I wanted to ask after installing the Stock UVKD1 – Flashable T959VuVKD1zip file will T-Mobile be able to tell I was rooted at one time? What happened is.. I was rooted and after flashing this I wasn't. Not accusing anyone, actually glad because it gave me a reason to return the phone. This purchase wasn't planned but because I own the Vibrant 3g (1st one phone) and love it, love the themes, everything about it. So at T-Mobile store saw 4g and bought it. Nothing like the Vibrant.
The ones that have contributed to this site have been amazing!!! It's too bad that there are so many with just gripes and complaints. Over at the Vibrant sites everyone works together and it's fun. Not a developer, have had many soft bricks but have fun with my phone and enjoy learning.
This is long because I have seen so many attack others and hope people won't waste their time on me because I am returning the phone and haven't posted anything before this anticipating someone would jump on me about where I posted or the answer is elsewhere "go to that forum".
The fact is that everything I have looked at and I have looked everywhere people are having problems and everyone's is a little different than mine so I just want to know if with this rom on my phone can I return it to T-Mobile, to day is the 19th day and I only have 20.
Thanks in advance for any answer someone can provide me with.
im not sure but I don't think you can get D1 over the air right now. however, that doesn't mean you rooted the phone, just that you flashed it. I suspect they might feel the same way about that though. If I was you I would flash from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978836 and then remove root as explained in that forum.
Please feel free to thank this post if this helped.
wrong section .. should have asked in general but download root checker if it says no root then you are fine
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wrong section .. should have asked in general but download root checker if it says no root then you are fine
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I don't think you read my post completely. I know I am not rooted. I do have some knowledge about what to do or I wouldn't be messing with a phone, this was going to be my main phone and I kept my Vibrant to play with and learn.
I was only asking about the rom because I didn't know what rom was on the phone when purchased.
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im not sure but I don't think you can get D1 over the air right now. however, that doesn't mean you rooted the phone, just that you flashed it. I suspect they might feel the same way about that though. If I was you I would flash from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978836 and then remove root as explained in that forum.
Please feel free to thank this post if this helped.
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Thank you so much, I will foll.ow the thread. I am already removing all signs of root. I was just concerned about the rom version.
DjIsD said:
I am asking all please don't attack me for posting this as I am but I am desperate....
Hi, I wanted to ask after installing the Stock UVKD1 – Flashable T959VuVKD1zip file will T-Mobile be able to tell I was rooted at one time? What happened is.. I was rooted and after flashing this I wasn't. Not accusing anyone, actually glad because it gave me a reason to return the phone. This purchase wasn't planned but because I own the Vibrant 3g (1st one phone) and love it, love the themes, everything about it. So at T-Mobile store saw 4g and bought it. Nothing like the Vibrant.
The ones that have contributed to this site have been amazing!!! It's too bad that there are so many with just gripes and complaints. Over at the Vibrant sites everyone works together and it's fun. Not a developer, have had many soft bricks but have fun with my phone and enjoy learning.
This is long because I have seen so many attack others and hope people won't waste their time on me because I am returning the phone and haven't posted anything before this anticipating someone would jump on me about where I posted or the answer is elsewhere "go to that forum".
The fact is that everything I have looked at and I have looked everywhere people are having problems and everyone's is a little different than mine so I just want to know if with this rom on my phone can I return it to T-Mobile, to day is the 19th day and I only have 20.
Thanks in advance for any answer someone can provide me with.
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Well since this KD1 Rom is a t-mobile update, I don't think you'll have any issues returning it. I would unroot the phone though (if is rooted). I'm not an expert; I'm like on the same boat as you are which is learning all this great stuff, but would t-mobile be able to tell if you were rooted once? not really sure.
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im not sure but I don't think you can get D1 over the air right now. however, that doesn't mean you rooted the phone, just that you flashed it. I suspect they might feel the same way about that though. If I was you I would flash from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978836 and then remove root as explained in that forum.
Please feel free to thank this post if this helped.
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Thanks. I have that file so I am good shape.
makavelicruz said:
Well since this KD1 Rom is a t-mobile update, I don't think you'll have any issues returning it. I would unroot the phone though (if is rooted). I'm not an expert; I'm like on the same boat as you are which is learning all this great stuff, but would t-mobile be able to tell if you were rooted once? not really sure.
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Thanks for the help. I removed all signs of root so after I swap out the 32 card for the 16 finish getting that straight I should be in good shape.
You might know this, where was the movie on the phone? I zipped it and got off right away so I don't even remember. If you know that would be great.
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Thank you so much, I will foll.ow the thread. I am already removing all signs of root. I was just concerned about the rom version.
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#1 wrong section, please read before posting in a section that is defined for development only, not general questions.
#2 TMobile retails stores won't even care, probably won't even check.
#3 If they did check, as long as you are on build T959VUVKB5 or KD1 your fine.
DjIsD said:
I am asking all please don't attack me for posting this as I am but I am desperate....
Hi, I wanted to ask after installing the Stock UVKD1 – Flashable T959VuVKD1zip file will T-Mobile be able to tell I was rooted at one time? What happened is.. I was rooted and after flashing this I wasn't. Not accusing anyone, actually glad because it gave me a reason to return the phone. This purchase wasn't planned but because I own the Vibrant 3g (1st one phone) and love it, love the themes, everything about it. So at T-Mobile store saw 4g and bought it. Nothing like the Vibrant.
The ones that have contributed to this site have been amazing!!! It's too bad that there are so many with just gripes and complaints. Over at the Vibrant sites everyone works together and it's fun. Not a developer, have had many soft bricks but have fun with my phone and enjoy learning.
This is long because I have seen so many attack others and hope people won't waste their time on me because I am returning the phone and haven't posted anything before this anticipating someone would jump on me about where I posted or the answer is elsewhere "go to that forum".
The fact is that everything I have looked at and I have looked everywhere people are having problems and everyone's is a little different than mine so I just want to know if with this rom on my phone can I return it to T-Mobile, to day is the 19th day and I only have 20.
Thanks in advance for any answer someone can provide me with.
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What problems were you having with it anyhow?
It sounds like you must have been trying to make modifications to it that are either untested or not designed to work properly with the SGS4G.
I know alot of people call it the Vibrant 4G but it's not the same, there are alot of differences with it, so it's easy for someone with less experience to mess it up. Not saying you don't have experience, but it sounds like you breeze through phones quicker than the flick of a light switch.
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#1 wrong section, please read before posting in a section that is defined for development only, not general questions.
#2 TMobile retails stores won't even care, probably won't even check.
#3 If they did check, as long as you are on build T959VUVKB5 or KD1 your fine.
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I thought you might have helped being that it was your thread i got the rom from and I asked the question there, sent you a pm but this is the last day to return (typing while files are moving from one sd to the other). Wrong again, you seemed to be one of the ones actually developing something for this phone and not wasting time to criticize people. Glad to be returning the phone and returning to the Vibrant forum.
People should do what I'm about to before buying a phone they want to mess with and that is check out these forums what's going with the development and if there are an overwhelming amount of negativity. And I know that's what some of you did, just thought I'd save someone the time of posting it.
Once again I am learning as I'm sure some others out there are too.
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What problems were you having with it anyhow?
It sounds like you must have been trying to make modifications to it that are either untested or not designed to work properly with the SGS4G.
I know alot of people call it the Vibrant 4G but it's not the same, there are alot of differences with it, so it's easy for someone with less experience to mess it up. Not saying you don't have experience, but it sounds like you breeze through phones quicker than the flick of a light switch.
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I have 2 phones the one I am exchanging (returning) the Sam T959V Galaxy S 4 and the Sam T959 Vibrant. That's at least how it's printed on the boxes.
I have not done anything from the Vibrant forum on the Galaxy S 4g phone. I flashed the rom from the thread you posted and went from root to no root. All SU apps wouldn't even open because what was needed wasn't in the needed directory(s).
All's good. Thanks.
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I thought you might have helped being that it was your thread i got the rom from and I asked the question there, sent you a pm but this is the last day to return (typing while files are moving from one sd to the other). Wrong again, you seemed to be one of the ones actually developing something for this phone and not wasting time to criticize people. Glad to be returning the phone and returning to the Vibrant forum.
People should do what I'm about to before buying a phone they want to mess with and that is check out these forums what's going with the development and if there are an overwhelming amount of negativity. And I know that's what some of you did, just thought I'd save someone the time of posting it.
Once again I am learning as I'm sure some others out there are too.
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It honestly doesn't have much to do with negativity.
More so with forum etiquette. I'm not trying to be rude to you, I merely telling you, no matter how much you post "Don't flame me" "don't be negative"...
If you post in the wrong forum anywhere on XDA, you're gonna get a negative response. That's a given not specific to this section.
I didn't see your post over there, until just now. Again cross posting is a no no, I understand you needed and answer. The best place for that would have been the general forum. not the development forum. It clearly says General Q&A section.
You can return the phone, I love my SGS4G and it works great. It seems like your mixing the two issues. Other than a few people on here, the majority get along just fine with no issues.
DjIsD said:
I have 2 phones the one I am exchanging (returning) the Sam T959V Galaxy S 4 and the Sam T959 Vibrant. That's at least how it's printed on the boxes.
I have not done anything from the Vibrant forum on the Galaxy S 4g phone. I flashed the rom from the thread you posted and went from root to no root. All SU apps wouldn't even open because what was needed wasn't in the needed directory(s).
All's good. Thanks.
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After checking your posts it does appear you were doing some SD card swapping and what not.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13410120#post13410120
"The thing is, is that I also have the vibrant galaxy s 4g and was using the 16gb sd for both until my 32 came in and realized, not a good idea. So until the 32 came in I decided to just work on this phone but wanted to get any signs of the 4g off this phone so was cleaning it up and now here I am....."
also you said
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9788716#post9788716
"I won't repeat what I already posted but have gone though over 103 phones (unfortunately, kids) in one year about 90% smart phones."
So if you have gone through 103 phones in one year, than either you're extremely picky, or you just like new phones.
Either way I don't fault you, but don't bag on this forum because you don't know the right section to post in, and you haven't even posted for help regarding the "issues" with your SGS4G.
joedeveloper said:
After checking your posts it does appear you were doing some SD card swapping and what not.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13410120#post13410120
"The thing is, is that I also have the vibrant galaxy s 4g and was using the 16gb sd for both until my 32 came in and realized, not a good idea. So until the 32 came in I decided to just work on this phone but wanted to get any signs of the 4g off this phone so was cleaning it up and now here I am....."
also you said
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9788716#post9788716
"I won't repeat what I already posted but have gone though over 103 phones (unfortunately, kids) in one year about 90% smart phones."
So if you have gone through 103 phones in one year, than either you're extremely picky, or you just like new phones.
Either way I don't fault you, but don't bag on this forum because you don't know the right section to post in, and you haven't even posted for help regarding the "issues" with your SGS4G.
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Didn't have a problem with the cards and don't have a problem with the phone either so I didn't go over to the threads you posted. I have the sd card that came with the phone and the 32 as well as a 16 for the T959. Use my computer a lot to transfer files and have multiple directories to keep it all separate. No problem there.
If I hadn't bought it after the T959 I am sure I would be keeping it as you are. The amount of development here on XDA is great and I didn't realize that the 2nd memory card (the internal on the T959) that is used like a 2nd sd card but at the same time like the internal memory on all the other phones was removed on the SGS4G. Became spoiled with that as well as the builds on the T959 for themes, mods, roms, etc. Don't mean to insult anyone so please don't take it that way.
You've answered all my questions, thank you and I will contact the correct person letting them know question answered, posted in wrong forum (and multiple times, won't forget that) so this thread can be removed or however they handle the errors (or maybe I'm the first).
Who told you you have 20 days? Standard is 14 for returns
Sent from my SGH-T959V using XDA App
DjIsD said:
Didn't have a problem with the cards and don't have a problem with the phone either so I didn't go over to the threads you posted. I have the sd card that came with the phone and the 32 as well as a 16 for the T959. Use my computer a lot to transfer files and have multiple directories to keep it all separate. No problem there.
If I hadn't bought it after the T959 I am sure I would be keeping it as you are. The amount of development here on XDA is great and I didn't realize that the 2nd memory card (the internal on the T959) that is used like a 2nd sd card but at the same time like the internal memory on all the other phones was removed on the SGS4G. Became spoiled with that as well as the builds on the T959 for themes, mods, roms, etc. Don't mean to insult anyone so please don't take it that way.
You've answered all my questions, thank you and I will contact the correct person letting them know question answered, posted in wrong forum (and multiple times, won't forget that) so this thread can be removed or however they handle the errors (or maybe I'm the first).
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Yeah I hear you. I came from a G1 so it was an upgrade. Not much of an upgrade for a vibrant user.
The threads I posted were actually quotes from posts that you had posted on other forums indicating you had issues, but not in the SGS4G forums, in the vibrant forums.
Glad you have no issues with it. No harm done, just to avoid this always check which forum your posting in and try to avoid cross posting.
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Who told you you have 20 days? Standard is 14 for returns
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T-Mobile customer service and I called the store, but I have been so side tracked I didn't even there. Tomorrow is my 20th day technically and just noticed I had a lock screen on it the phone I need to get off so maybe I'll just keep this too and try and make some changes to it to make it fun.
Customer service has been wrong before, but I have always worked things out with them. Been with them since 2000 and am down to 5 lines from 7 and a data line so they have been pretty good but then again I guess policy is policy. Then again I do know that customer service (return by mail) was up to 30 days and the store was way shorter. I am surprised it was 20.
Yeah.. tenure does mean something with the company.. one of the great things a out tmo
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You'd be suprised.. a mom came into the store with a bootlooped mytouch4g with. Cyanogenmod boot animation and wanted a warranty exchange.. I kind of loled and turned her away
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#1 wrong section, please read before posting in a section that is defined for development only, not general questions.
#2 TMobile retails stores won't even care, probably won't even check.
#3 If they did check, as long as you are on build T959VUVKB5 or KD1 your fine.
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Why has the ''is this necessary'' thread been deleted ? and the other one locked ?
There was more people against this opening of a sub-forum than there was for it.
Please listen to us and remove this tmobile section, It isnt needed, and deleting the threads that wanted this section gone is way out of order.. We didnt break any rules..
This is our section, our phone, We dont need nor want this silly tmobile section.. So please remove it !!
If you think im wrong............Im not, Allow me to open a poll as to whether we should keep it or not ??
c'mon mods be fair ??!!??!!
It got removed because it would just start issues with other members of the forum for people who want it or not same thing with this thread.
This is the wrong section your posting in anyway.
What's so hard about looking in other section and looking in T-Mobile section.
The administrators on the site said they want it as a local moderator just spoke to them about it, Majority want it anyway.
well the poll says different... At least leave this thread for a few days and get some statistics before making a decision.
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To be fair i agree with azzle here,bit stupid to have some extra thread for tmobile..end of the day this can all be kept in the android dev section. This is daft.
suprised the mod agreed to this anyway,unless he was pm'ed by everyone asking for it,now if thats the case..then fair enough
OK people, i have re-named this thread and moved it to its proper section. I will allow this to continue, unless it turns into a flame war. We all have opinions, i ask you to respect others.
The extra dev section was asked for, and the admin gave it. Its unlikely its going to be removed, so we will have to live with it.
cheers man ! If its what the people want.. Keep it.. I just think its gunna cause so much confusion when development really gets going.. That things would have been better left how they were..
Im all up for the Q&A Section... If there happens to be differences between Tmobile and International version, I will add it to my threads FAQ section...
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What's so hard about looking in other section and looking in T-Mobile section.
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Whats so hard of not having that section and making double download links (as rom makers will make 2 different versions anyway).
Let the vote stay here for atleast 2 days, then you can see some "results"
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It got removed because it would just start issues with other members of the forum for people who want it or not same thing with this thread.
This is the wrong section your posting in anyway.
What's so hard about looking in other section and looking in T-Mobile section.
The administrators on the site said they want it as a local moderator just spoke to them about it, Majority want it anyway.
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The point is, we have so little development as it is, that splitting the forum into two makes it look like we have even less development, and that could deter people away from the phone and thus more development. Both phones can use both roms so there is no point. If there are small issues such as wifi, we can have stickies.
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The point is, we have so little development as it is, that splitting the forum into two makes it look like we have even less development, and that could deter people away from the phone and thus more development. Both phones can use both roms so there is no point. If there are small issues such as wifi, we can have stickies.
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True I'm not going to argue with that cause ur right.
but It's not hard looking in both sections.
If there are incompatible features between t-mo-us and the international One S, keep them both, if not, merge them. Or at least rename it t-mo US, as t-mo has presence in other countries as well.
The second tmous thread is not needed, if the dev of the rom would simply add to there title.
[rom][sense 4.0] [tmous/EU] [NAME OF YOUR ROM][ANYTHING EXTRA AOSP/STOCK] [Updated XX/XX/XXXX]
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True I'm not going to argue with that cause ur right.
but It's not hard looking in both sections.
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I'm not saying it is, and I usually ventured to the Verizon side when I had a GSM Galaxy Nexus I just don't want development on this device stunted.
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I am going to request another subforum for my own gsm operator. Or maybe even forum for my own mobile :what:
Seriously, this is ridiculous.
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Agreed josh. I was told by senior mods that they did it because "it's what users wanted". Well, that's kind of interesting, because we're NOT wanting it, and we're those users. The initial confusion came on launch day, and that was because nobody was familiar with whether the devices differed. Guides simply need to be updated to reflect compatibility. Now, instead, we've got 2 forums, and in an attempt to alleviate the confusion, they have only caused further confusion, because now it REALLY looks like the devices are different when they are in fact NOT.
When a dev gets into modding, one of the obvious questions is "How many different devices do I have to work with here?". Based off our forum layout, it looks like we've got 2 different devices. This could lead developers to believe that there's more work to be done than necessary to achieve compatibility with both.
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I am on the fence with this one.
While I agree that if a rom developed for EU works - for the majority - and only does not function on a scale that reaches very select users, then the dual dev section is not needed.
However, in that same logic, if a rom developed that is incompatible with the counterpart phones due to whatever reason, and something happens while it was not labeled as EU/US or TMOUS or whatever tag a dev would use, then that would start a stir in the forum, IMO, deterring users from moving to this phone and potentially hurting development.
While i agree that it should be SOP to label the rom as EU or US, at the very least posting inside the thread if its for EU or US in the download links. Having a split forum this early in the development phase could hurt the growth of the phone's custom roms.
This being my second android phone, I myself am considering taking a shot at developing a custom TMOUS minimalist rom. (running as little as possible and having the bare necessities required to run the phone) Thinking of a battery saver galore build, completely Sense Free.
I came from the Nexus S, and the dev forum was split into 2 forums - 1 for the GSM Nexus S, and 1 for the CDMA Sprint Nexus S 4G.
I was a i9020T GSM model. In the very same forum, mods and devs posted ROMs for i9020T, i9020A (att), and i9023 (SLCD model , mostly overseas). Not once was there ever a problem. I just think it's kind of silly that we're being told "it's what users want", and yet we clearly don't want it, atleast the majority don't. I was told it was to help with new users, but here's the thing....this isnt newbforums.com or something. This is XDA DEVELOPERS. Enthusiasts and the tech crowd come here. I'm not saying new users don't, because we see them every day, but they've got their own issue with getting up-to-speed, and I fail to see how fragmenting the community into 2 dev forums helps alleviate the issue. Newbs will be newbs. They just have to read stuff....
Is it possible that I can agree with everyone? Probably a result of my incessant blind optimism.
Clearly, there is a divide here. Some people want the separate forum, others don't. Both arguments seem to stem from the same desire... to maximize development for their specific phones. I emphasize like crazy with you.
People that don't want the split fear that this will slow development by dividing troops and possibly give the appearance of a lesser interest from the dev community. However, having two sides essentially working on the "same" device may even prove beneficial in the end.
People that do want it are likely "we" Americans who always fear upon a devices release that there will be some minor radio variance that will cause our new, $600 baby to turn paperweight. Having a T-Mo(US) thread gives someone like me, with a lesser experience in the dev world, more confidence to take the leap into modding a device. I'm more likely to set up a dev environment, root my phone, and become more active in the community. The more people willing to get their feet wet should help everyone, regardless of continent, in the end.
Lastly, the apparent lack of interest may instead be a lack of knowledge. What other snapdragon S4 Krait phones have been released? AFAIK, there hasn't been a single device dropped with this chip, so development will be decidedly difficult until HTC makes available their GPL code. They probably aren't terribly eager to give other phone manufacturers the fruits of their labor, and money, by aiding them prep the S4 phones/tablets that will inevitably follow.
I am incredibly eager to sink my teeth into the underbelly of the one S. I can accept that for the time being, customization may likely be limited to sense-based mods, as I for one am certainly unwilling to part with what is one of the most impressive cameras ever released on a phone. But I do incredibly miss my notification pull down power switches.
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Is it possible that I can agree with everyone? Probably a result of my incessant blind optimism.
Clearly, there is a divide here. Some people want the separate forum, others don't. Both arguments seem to stem from the same desire... to maximize development for their specific phones. I emphasize like crazy with you.
People that don't want the split fear that this will slow development by dividing troops and possibly give the appearance of a lesser interest from the dev community. However, having two sides essentially working on the "same" device may even prove beneficial in the end.
People that do want it are likely "we" Americans who always fear upon a devices release that there will be some minor radio variance that will cause our new, $600 baby to turn paperweight. Having a T-Mo(US) thread gives someone like me, with a lesser experience in the dev world, more confidence to take the leap into modding a device. I'm more likely to set up a dev environment, root my phone, and become more active in the community. The more people willing to get their feet wet should help everyone, regardless of continent, in the end.
Lastly, the apparent lack of interest may instead be a lack of knowledge. What other snapdragon S4 Krait phones have been released? AFAIK, there hasn't been a single device dropped with this chip, so development will be decidedly difficult until HTC makes available their GPL code. They probably aren't terribly eager to give other phone manufacturers the fruits of their labor, and money, by aiding them prep the S4 phones/tablets that will inevitably follow.
I am incredibly eager to sink my teeth into the underbelly of the one S. I can accept that for the time being, customization may likely be limited to sense-based mods, as I for one am certainly unwilling to part with what is one of the most impressive cameras ever released on a phone. But I do incredibly miss my notification pull down power switches.
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I respect your opinion. Please email HTCdev and express your displeasure at their daily willful GPL violations. That code lawfully belongs in the hands of the open source community.
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See, what we're trying to get at is that there isn't any "flash this version or that version", because there's only 1 version: the HTC One S. Unless you're flashing radios, and custom ROMs should typically NEVER have custom radios unless clearly indicated, then it doesn't matter.
And the Galaxy S was divided into subforums because the actual hardware cofigurations, button layouts, chips, etc, varied quite a bit from model to model, whether it was the international SGS, the T-Mo Vibrant, The Verizon Continuum (vastly different), or the ATT version.
The One S is a single phone, with 2 slightly different radio versions. Other than that radio, they are absolutely identical.
I hope this question isn't too splattered across the Q&A forums, but after I reached page 10 and not finding my specific question addressed in the present day I feel comfortable posting...
I understand that I am most likely reaching here, but I want an internationally unlocked phone (specifically the OnePlus 3T), and I was wondering if anyone knew if there exists a list for Verizon and all the phones that are compatible with it. Through heavy research/ exhausting known resources I have come up short on finding such a list, if there is one. I also understand that the likely hood of me being able to use anything other than a Verizon dedicated phone is either slim pickins or nonexistent...but a girl can hope
I love my ULD that I am grandfathered into...but at this point, I am not so sure it was worth the switch from T-Mobile's GSM service...