Related
I'm searching for a way to Wi-Fi tether without being rooted & bootloader unlocked. This is one of the primary use cases for my phones, and I've been able to do it for years on Windows Mobile without any additional modifications. I'm pondering a move to the Nexus One but I'm still a bit wary of rooting/bootloader unlocking since it is irreversible. Is there a solution for people like me?
(It must be Wi-Fi tethering, Bluetooth and USB are nice but won't cut it. I have a handful of devices I need to connect such as a Nintendo DSi, iPod Touch, and various laptops).
If you want wifi tether, you have to root.
I don't understand why everyone is so apprehensive to root their phone. It's a painless process. You could go from stock to wifi tether in probably less than 10 min if you read all the steps ahead of time and have everything downloaded and ready to go.
Unfortunately some of us are still apprehensive on the voiding of warranty, especially when we are not based in the US. Once rooted and the phone is on its own, subject to the harsh elements of an unloving world...
Perhaps once the 1 year warranty is over, I will root mine.
It's not the process I'm worried about...I agree its incredibly painless and far easier than other things I've done.
It's the warranty I'm worried about. It seems the general feeling is that HTC will still fix problems clearly not caused by rooting/bootloader unlocking, but it's not 100% official.
Back on topic: any sollutions for non-root users?
chambo622 said:
It's not the process I'm worried about...I agree its incredibly painless and far easier than other things I've done.
It's the warranty I'm worried about. It seems the general feeling is that HTC will still fix problems clearly not caused by rooting/bootloader unlocking, but it's not 100% official.
Back on topic: any sollutions for non-root users?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That was on topic... I don't believe there's currently any way to wifi tether unless you have root.
That said, since you want to get your DS on, etc... what if you usb or bluetooth tether to a laptop then use the laptop as the wifi access point? It would be less than ideal, but it would get the job done.
True, that's definitely an option, but unfortunately my Intel 4965 wireless card in my laptop doesn't work with the elegant Connectify sollution for Windows 7, so that's not really an option either I suppose I will have to just bite the bullet and root, or stick with Windows Mobile.
Just check this link
http://gizmodo.com/5447347/how-to-tether-your-android-phone
This message was deleted by its author
Maybe I'm wrong, but I isn't there a difference between Wireless tether for root users and Wi-Fi tethering. I understand there are work arounds, but I can not turn on Wireless tether for root users and connect my PS3 directly. It is not like your phone is turned into a Wi-Fi hot spot. It is an ad-hoc connection. Will the OP's DSi be able to connect to an ad-hoc connection?
Yes, it is an ad-hoc connection you're right, but nonetheless, it can allow multiple clients simultaneously like a router which is what I need. I'm actually not sure about the DS, but devices like the iPod touch and other smartphones can connect just fine.
Well if that's the case, I would just root it. Everything works GREAT! There are somany great applications that become available once you root it. I wouldn't worry about the warranty issue. I rooted my G1 and did all kinds of things with it. If anything ever went wrong it was always an easy fix. These phone are great and the developers behind all the custom ROM's are even better.
t4tav said:
I know it's not exactly what you are after, But PDAnet works over Bluetooth DUN.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm using that right now via USB cable.
Works great and it's easy to use and very stable.
My N1 is rooted, do you guys have any links for a good WiFi tether app?
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
That seems to be the popular one, although I have come across one more that I can't remember right now...
BTW what's with the Speedtest in your sig...
chambo622 said:
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That looks great. Just what I wanted Thanks
chambo622 said:
BTW what's with the Speedtest in your sig...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What do you mean?
If I am not interested in custom ROMS (at least for now), what are the advantages to rooting a tablet?
Does rooting still break some video streaming apps like google play videos?
U can tweak ur tablet n make it faster...u take charge of it... But this tablet is fast already ...also u can remove any app that comes on tablet that cant be removable
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA
There are no custom ROMs avail for the 300 yet anyways.
However, I have rooted mine and it was well worth the little effort to do it.
Definately beaing able to "de-bloat" the tab is a huge advantage.
Also, you can over-clock the CPU and run apps that require SU permission.
If your comfortable with rooting, its definately a good move.
Blocking adverts and backups at the moment
My #1 reason for rooting is AdFree. No more pesky ads in apps.
ksbarnz said:
My #1 reason for rooting is AdFree. No more pesky ads in apps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Using which app?!
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA
Raul69.atl said:
Using which app?!
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
adfree from the market
Tethering requires root ?
I have root on my phone - Droid A854 - but I can't get the Transformer to connect. It sees the network when I use Barnacle - basically Barnacle creates a wifi access point- but it won't connect. My transformer is stock with the 26 update - not rooted. The other possible methods are to use the stock tethering through USB cable - but no go either. Can't seem to get any traction has anybody successfully tethered their tf300 to a phone.
kjwaugh said:
I have root on my phone - Droid A854 - but I can't get the Transformer to connect. It sees the network when I use Barnacle - basically Barnacle creates a wifi access point- but it won't connect. My transformer is stock with the 26 update - not rooted.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have just tested my Samsung Galaxy S2 with CM9 and Wifi tether and all works fine without any issues. So I would start looking at your phone? Maybe test another device to see if that works?
kjwaugh said:
I have root on my phone - Droid A854 - but I can't get the Transformer to connect. It sees the network when I use Barnacle - basically Barnacle creates a wifi access point- but it won't connect. My transformer is stock with the 26 update - not rooted. The other possible methods are to use the stock tethering through USB cable - but no go either. Can't seem to get any traction has anybody successfully tethered their tf300 to a phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I use cm7 on my droid x with WiFi tether and this tablet works fine connecting to it.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using XDA Premium HD app
I use my lg revolution under lg optimus s on the app and it works
Sent from my VS910 4G using xda premium
stock rooted Droid Charge connects fine and no issues.
Sent from my SCH-I510 using XDA
I was hoping
What I was hoping to hear was that the wireless issues are known or that the tablet had to be rooted, or perhaps one program works and one clearly does not. Please let me know what programs are being successfully used - or if you are tethering with USB or wireless. I guess I need to collect what it working and what is not. Your input is greatly appreciated.
I've used the stock Android Wi-Fi tether in MIUI and successfully connected to my tablet.
I have a SGSII rooted and running Darksides ICS Beta 3 ROM. Using Mobile hotspot everything connected, updated, and downloaded fine to my TF300T. I think it's possibly your phone man, sorry. Good luck.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using xda premium
Just to take full advantage or mod with rom toolbox ,etc
Sent from my GT-I9001 using xda premium
Sixaxis Controller and Titanium Backup were enough to warrant rooting here, but then I also found LUKS Manager, which is useful if you need encrypted archives.
Overall really the reason to root is that it gives you more control over your tablet. It should in my opinion be default on all devices, but unfortunately telcos would rather not give Average Joe this much power to circumvent things like tether costs.
The reason root isn't default has nothing to do with tethering. Rooting is a huge security risk. There's a reason a lot of Linux distributions completely disable the root account. Root means COMPLETE CONTROL. Anyone with access to your phone while it's rooted (and that doesn't have to be physical access; your tablet or phone is connected to a giant network of potential hackers at any given moment) can do anything they want with it. Did you encrypt your device to protect your information? Doesn't matter when you're running as the root user - you're still ****ed. Maybe Mr. Hacker Man wants to delete /etc/fstab. Say goodbye to your booting device. Maybe he wants to delete your phone apk. No more phone calls for you. He can do whatever he wants to do.
I think you get the point. And no, none of those scenarios are likely to happen, but they're definitely possible with a rooted device, and that's important to know.
Just for perspective, both my phone and tablet are rooted. I'm not saying you shouldn't root. I'm saying you have to understand the potential risks, and I'm saying that phones and tablets should NOT be rooted by default.
Edit: When did XDA start the profanity filter? I don't remember being censored before.
I've never encountered a Linux distro that disables root, and I've tried a bunch. Android's rooting is more aking to enabling sudo than anything else. You're not running as root for most of the time, you're simply allowed to elevate privileges when necessary, just like most distros offer.
Yes it can be a security risk, but then so is connecting to the Internet or downloading an app. It'd certainly be possible to offer an official and convenient channel to root your device, as opposed to having to use exploits or long-winded processes and risk bricking your device for some of them.
The chances of a nefarious hacker attempting to brick your device are negligible. I'd be much more worried about an insecure banking app leaking data or passwords being left as plain-text, but those can be read with or without root as long as the hacker has access in some way (usually a Trojan horse app or 0-day exploit).
And also, you'd be surprised by how much power telcos can have. One of the prime reasons phone users root is because tethering is disabled (it's such a useful feature!) and they don't want to pay extortionate fees just to use a feature that's default for Android.
That's all true, but my point is just that root should not be enabled by default. Ideally, the manufacturers would provide a way to root along with information about Linux and the way root works for the average user's sake. Unfortunately, even if they did that, the average user is "the average user" because he or she would rather not read about how Linux works, otherwise he or she would have already learned about Linux while researching Android phones, and the docs wouldn't be necessary. As it stands in the real world, the only thing the average user knows about root is that they can tether for free. They don't understand the risks or even that there are risks. This is why malware on Android has the potential to wreak havoc.
As for the tethering specifically, it would obviously be more helpful if it was just enabled by default without having to root. But, since the cell networks must extort insane amounts of money from users to use data for which they are already paying, that won't ever happen.
And as for distributions disabling root, I've used several that did so, but the only one I can remember offhand is the one I currently use, Crunchbang. The only way to perform root operations is through sudo, which is fine with me. I had heard it was a growing trend, but I don't believe the major distros like Debian, Slackware, and Fedora have adopted it.
It doesn't natively work on the Infinity, but I'm stubborn. If anyone can give me some direction as to how best to tackle this, it would be helpful. Maybe someone else had already started on something similar, or if not, at least a starting point.
Mind you, I'm trying to tether FROM my Sprint phone TO my tablet.
BlaqueJacque said:
It doesn't natively work on the Infinity, but I'm stubborn. If anyone can give me some direction as to how best to tackle this, it would be helpful. Maybe someone else had already started on something similar, or if not, at least a starting point.
Mind you, I'm trying to tether FROM my Sprint phone TO my tablet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you tried connecting your Sprint phone via bluetooth? I noticed that when I paired mine, it showed up as a possible tether point but I don't have data on my plan so couldn't test it.
I also think this thread needs to be moved to the Q&A forum.
I doubt you'll get it working through USB. I dont think the Infinity has drivers for that.
There's tons of solutions to get it going over wifi, and if you want something a little more power efficient try a combination of PDANet for Tablets on the Infinity and FoxFi on your phone to tether over bluetooth.
Sigh... the entire point to this thread being in the Development forum is to develop the drivers needed to make it work.
BlaqueJacque said:
Sigh... the entire point to this thread being in the Development forum is to develop the drivers needed to make it work.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unfortunately, unless you have already developed such app, this post does not belong in the development forums, which are for apps/ROMs that have already been developed, not for posts about apps/ROMs that you would like to have developed.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2
Already posted in Q&A. Pretty much the sames answers you received there. Dude, just wifi/BT tether... No one is gonna hack the wireless network on your phone to get free 4G internet.
Obviously I need to go elsewhere, then. I thought this would be good place to go for aid with app development, and instead all I get is 'you're dumb, do it this way' and 'Development is for apps already developed, not for those in development' as seems to be the case. Thanks anyway, I suppose.
Not trying to give you a hard time and certainly didn't mean to insinuate you're dumb. You're just asking for something that doesn't really NEED to be done and really can't be done (at the moment). There are already lots of good solutions for what you're ultimately looking to do, tether your phone to your tablet to access the net. Being stubborn about doing it via USB just doesn't make sense (unless you're not really being honest about wanting simple internet access and you need USB tether for other reasons). Who would want wires when you can do it wirelessly? Wires suck... lol.
Hopefully you'll stick around and enjoy the community. Lots of smart nice people here ready to lend a hand.
Grave digging
I've found a need for this or at least a work around. I work offshore and internet is restricted to 1 device per person. My tablet cannot tether back to my PC but my mobile can. I can usb tether my phone to my PC while on wifi. However you cannot bluetooth tether while on wifi so my tablet becomes useless. Please if you're thinking I should just bluetooth or wifi tether using my data I will ask you to log off life and KYS because as I said earlier I work offshore there is no data. Is there a way to bluetooth tether while on wifi??
Jotokun said:
I doubt you'll get it working through USB. I dont think the Infinity has drivers for that.
There's tons of solutions to get it going over wifi, and if you want something a little more power efficient try a combination of PDANet for Tablets on the Infinity and FoxFi on your phone to tether over bluetooth.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It does have the drivers for it, but it requires a change in the framework to allow it to use the USB device when you plug it in. I have this enabled in cm.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
Unfortunately, my friend uses Windows and when his phone is running as a hotspot, he cannot see it as an option to connect to.
I just got WiFi tether to work on my friends HTC One X, on a stock AT&T ROM, using proxoid and android-wifi-tether. When I tested, it I used my MacBook, which saw the connection as a "device." It was not listed as a "Wifi" connection but I was able to use it as a hotspot with no issue.
Does anyone know how I can get Windows to recognize this and be able to connect to it for internet?
not sure why it would show up for Mac but not windows. I thought it would show up as an ad-hoc connection but it didn't show up at all on windows.
Must be an issue with your apps - WiFi tethering is a pretty simple setup process, at least so I've found on ViperXL and CM10.1.
Protogon said:
Must be an issue with your apps - WiFi tethering is a pretty simple setup process, at least so I've found on ViperXL and CM10.1.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've never had an issue like this. I'm trying to avoid flashing a custom ROM but will if necessary. Is ViperXL pretty user friendly for an older guy who has a hard time with technology? This phone is for an older friend of mine (in his 50's)... please keep in mind, when I say old(er) this is the tech world... I know you're not old if you're in your 50's
x000111 said:
I've never had an issue like this. I'm trying to avoid flashing a custom ROM but will if necessary. Is ViperXL pretty user friendly for an older guy who has a hard time with technology? This phone is for an older friend of mine (in his 50's)... please keep in mind, when I say old(er) this is the tech world... I know you're not old if you're in your 50's
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, ViperXL is no more difficult to use than a stock ROM. You don't need to touch any of the Viper Tweaks if you don't want to, and the ROM comes with various HTC apps like the WiFi Tethering app. You don't get any of the ATT bloatware, though, so if you rely on any of it, you'll need to figure out how to bring it with you.
So I am running a HTC phone and have made some mistakes. I have been trying to change my NAT type on x bone in order to play Rainbow six online with open NAT.
I tried tether to laptop then to box using a cross over cable and forwarding ports over Internet connection sharing. I also tried installing multiple port forwarder applications onto my phone and tethering directly to the XB. One app was meant for a rooted phone (port forward ultimate), which mine isn't and it would let me stop the process before uninstalling.
Unfortunately for me it didn't work and now the tethering speed is INSANELY slow. It tells me there is an MTU error (1340) and the games which used to work fine are now completely unplayable. I wish I had never done all of it just to play one game as the others worked fine.
I am really upset, because the bit of internet I get to play video game is barely keeping my alive at the moment and now its gone.
If you have any advice you would be helping a very ill man get a little bit of joy.
Thanks
Does anyone know anywhere in the UK where I can speak to a professional about my issue. I never get responses on this forum. Any other forums where professionals dwell and give advice/help?
Nobody has the knowledge to help at all?
Can't bring myself to believe that no one has any knowledge of what to do in this situation.
I will pay for someone to help me if that's what it takes to get someone to respond here.
So...If your Phone isn't rooted, you can try (if you have one) to recover all the information. If the Phone has a Guarantee, go to the shop where you buyed it. Since it isn't rooted the Guarantee is still on it. If all of that isn't an Option, the easiest way is to root the Phone (totally worth it anyway) and try an equal App. Not the same just onenwith the same function. Write back if none of these helps, and give some more Information about your mobile (S/N number Android Version...)
akkudererste said:
So...If your Phone isn't rooted, you can try (if you have one) to recover all the information. If the Phone has a Guarantee, go to the shop where you buyed it. Since it isn't rooted the Guarantee is still on it. If all of that isn't an Option, the easiest way is to root the Phone (totally worth it anyway) and try an equal App. Not the same just onenwith the same function. Write back if none of these helps, and give some more Information about your mobile (S/N number Android Version...)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its nothing to do with being rooted or not, my ISP is throttling my tethering somehow and I don't know how or why they are doing it. It worked fine for months, but I tried opening my NAT. It think they are doing something with my IP, subnet mask or MTU, but I don't know how to get around it. Other than rooting and applying tether dun 0, which I would prefer not to do, I am at a loss
Correction, I do know why they are doing it, it's because I tried opening my NAT, which is not allowed. The latency in games has quadrupled. 4g was perfect before, now its barely playable. I want to know why this is happening. Can mobile providers throttle tethering? It still works just very badly.
So, you live in the UK. So you think it's a problem with the provider. Wich provider is it?
It's either my mobile provider or the only other thing I can think of is that I dropped my phone a few weeks back.
Could dropping your phone cause the wifihotspot to work incorrectly? Surely if it was broken it would just work or not work.
I get very decent speeds on my phone but when so tether my speeds are awful, which never used to happen.
I am trying to rule out various possiblities and although I am alright at tech, I don't know much about mobiles and though there were a few knowledgeable people on this forum.
.
I am going to see a professional. I didn't realise it was all amateurs here, my mistake.