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I'm searching for a way to Wi-Fi tether without being rooted & bootloader unlocked. This is one of the primary use cases for my phones, and I've been able to do it for years on Windows Mobile without any additional modifications. I'm pondering a move to the Nexus One but I'm still a bit wary of rooting/bootloader unlocking since it is irreversible. Is there a solution for people like me?
(It must be Wi-Fi tethering, Bluetooth and USB are nice but won't cut it. I have a handful of devices I need to connect such as a Nintendo DSi, iPod Touch, and various laptops).
If you want wifi tether, you have to root.
I don't understand why everyone is so apprehensive to root their phone. It's a painless process. You could go from stock to wifi tether in probably less than 10 min if you read all the steps ahead of time and have everything downloaded and ready to go.
Unfortunately some of us are still apprehensive on the voiding of warranty, especially when we are not based in the US. Once rooted and the phone is on its own, subject to the harsh elements of an unloving world...
Perhaps once the 1 year warranty is over, I will root mine.
It's not the process I'm worried about...I agree its incredibly painless and far easier than other things I've done.
It's the warranty I'm worried about. It seems the general feeling is that HTC will still fix problems clearly not caused by rooting/bootloader unlocking, but it's not 100% official.
Back on topic: any sollutions for non-root users?
chambo622 said:
It's not the process I'm worried about...I agree its incredibly painless and far easier than other things I've done.
It's the warranty I'm worried about. It seems the general feeling is that HTC will still fix problems clearly not caused by rooting/bootloader unlocking, but it's not 100% official.
Back on topic: any sollutions for non-root users?
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That was on topic... I don't believe there's currently any way to wifi tether unless you have root.
That said, since you want to get your DS on, etc... what if you usb or bluetooth tether to a laptop then use the laptop as the wifi access point? It would be less than ideal, but it would get the job done.
True, that's definitely an option, but unfortunately my Intel 4965 wireless card in my laptop doesn't work with the elegant Connectify sollution for Windows 7, so that's not really an option either I suppose I will have to just bite the bullet and root, or stick with Windows Mobile.
Just check this link
http://gizmodo.com/5447347/how-to-tether-your-android-phone
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Maybe I'm wrong, but I isn't there a difference between Wireless tether for root users and Wi-Fi tethering. I understand there are work arounds, but I can not turn on Wireless tether for root users and connect my PS3 directly. It is not like your phone is turned into a Wi-Fi hot spot. It is an ad-hoc connection. Will the OP's DSi be able to connect to an ad-hoc connection?
Yes, it is an ad-hoc connection you're right, but nonetheless, it can allow multiple clients simultaneously like a router which is what I need. I'm actually not sure about the DS, but devices like the iPod touch and other smartphones can connect just fine.
Well if that's the case, I would just root it. Everything works GREAT! There are somany great applications that become available once you root it. I wouldn't worry about the warranty issue. I rooted my G1 and did all kinds of things with it. If anything ever went wrong it was always an easy fix. These phone are great and the developers behind all the custom ROM's are even better.
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I know it's not exactly what you are after, But PDAnet works over Bluetooth DUN.
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I'm using that right now via USB cable.
Works great and it's easy to use and very stable.
My N1 is rooted, do you guys have any links for a good WiFi tether app?
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
That seems to be the popular one, although I have come across one more that I can't remember right now...
BTW what's with the Speedtest in your sig...
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http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
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That looks great. Just what I wanted Thanks
chambo622 said:
BTW what's with the Speedtest in your sig...
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What do you mean?
Is there any of these roms or apks that will allow Wired Tether or Usb internet sharing WITHOUT! having to purchase some other program. Everyone is so up in the air about wireless tethering, but I have noticed that is drains the battery so bad and the battery gets hot. Does anyone have the solution for error 67 on sprint cdma heros while tethering usb. And I have searched with to no avail.
mrfordwrench
My guess is you didnt do a search. With the "wired" tether you need the service enabled on your account. With the "wireless" tether it just works.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656634&highlight=mns
Actually I did search, but you didnt fully read my post I guess.
I know it works with wireless tether, therefor it should work for wired.
But noone has taken the initiative with wired tether that they have with wireless tethering. Wireless would be great if it didnt drain your battery.
But you cant even have a charger hooked up with wireless tether and keep the phone going because the battery heats up. With wireless tether you have 2 radios working full speed an hence draining all the resources. With usb tethering you only have one radio working.
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But you cant even have a charger hooked up with wireless tether and keep the phone going because the battery heats up.
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That is demonstrably not true.
I routinely use wireless tether, both on AC power and on battery power, and I've never noticed my phone getting unusually warm. Furthermore, I specifically use wireless tethering because it allows me to use the USB port for AC charging, which is much faster than having the phone plugged in to a USB port on a computer.
But, as far as your original question goes, all you need to do is spend some time on Google learning how to configure networking on Linux. The underlying Linux networking stack that the Android framework depends on is easily capable of acting as a router. All of the various tethering solutions, whether wired or wireless, are doing nothing that couldn't be accomplished with a few well chosen commands from a shell prompt. The apps are just putting a user friendly interface on it.
I'll admit, though, it would be nice to see a GUI app that offered ALL of the options to the user, instead of just focusing on tethering through one method...
FWIW, I have actually gone back to the 2.11_002 PRI, just to be able to use Internet Sharing. I have been in this mode for several days, and have run several different 2.1 ROMS with this PRI. Sprint TV and Sprint Navigation have been working (although I can't say that I actually use them much). Sprint Nascar and Football do not work (but I usually removed them anyways). Also Sprint does not show up on the lockscreen, but I can live without that as well, as I am already aware that Sprint is my carrier.
What I did to get this to work was to make a nandroid backup of my current setup, then wiped and flashed a ROM (DamageControlv1.1beta5 in my case) that changes the phone to the 2.11_002 PRI (had to boot twice before it showed up in settings > About phone > Software information). After this I just did a reboot into recovery, performed a wipe (data/dalvik/ext), then did a nandroid restore of my original setup.
This has been working well for me for a week or so, but YMMV. There may be some other issues associated with not having the sanctioned Product Release Instructions for my phone, but I have not come across anything yet. Perhaps developers or members with a better understanding of the difference may have some additional insight, but it is working quite well for me. I can't really offer any help or insight other that to say that it works.
"I'll admit, though, it would be nice to see a GUI app that offered ALL of the options to the user, instead of just focusing on tethering through one method..."
Thank you
Exactly what I mean.
I use easytether myself, it was a lot cheaper than pdanet. But pdanet does have the cool sms passthrough to the computer... anyways, you can use both of these for a free trial, after that it is still useable just can't access https websites (so no checking your bank, etc.) But I still use wireless tether quite often as well since I have a lot less trouble with file downloads, etc. Also, if you plug your phone usb cable into the actual phone charger that came with it instead of the computer or an aftermarket usb charger, it will charge while wireless tethering. Stock USB is only listed for 500 mA, where the one that came with the phone is 1000mA (both 5V)
jaybob413 said:
FWIW, I have actually gone back to the 2.11_002 PRI, just to be able to use Internet Sharing. I have been in this mode for several days, and have run several different 2.1 ROMS with this PRI. Sprint TV and Sprint Navigation have been working (although I can't say that I actually use them much). Sprint Nascar and Football do not work (but I usually removed them anyways). Also Sprint does not show up on the lockscreen, but I can live without that as well, as I am already aware that Sprint is my carrier.
What I did to get this to work was to make a nandroid backup of my current setup, then wiped and flashed a ROM (DamageControlv1.1beta5 in my case) that changes the phone to the 2.11_002 PRI (had to boot twice before it showed up in settings > About phone > Software information). After this I just did a reboot into recovery, performed a wipe (data/dalvik/ext), then did a nandroid restore of my original setup.
This has been working well for me for a week or so, but YMMV. There may be some other issues associated with not having the sanctioned Product Release Instructions for my phone, but I have not come across anything yet. Perhaps developers or members with a better understanding of the difference may have some additional insight, but it is working quite well for me. I can't really offer any help or insight other that to say that it works.
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Is there a way to change PRI outside of flashing a full ROM? If it requires a full ROM, how can you tell which ROM has PRI 1.68_003 (or possibly 2.10_003)? I have had 1.70_003 since I bought the phone and that one always gives me error code 67 when trying to use internet sharing. I think the other two official PRIs don't have this error. I am currently running Damage v2.05. I've read this post but I'm not sure that applies to my situation...
Ok I was using damagecontrol 2.05 before but thanks to the guidance of the responses I switched to darchlegend and now mns works with sharing.
Thanks for the all the positive and negative responses....
So I guess it has to do with what pri is installed per the Rom update.
fordwrench
Internet sharing works with any pri on darchlegend
mrfordwrench said:
"I'll admit, though, it would be nice to see a GUI app that offered ALL of the options to the user, instead of just focusing on tethering through one method..."
Thank you
Exactly what I mean.
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Start coding.
azyouthinkeyeiz said:
Start coding.
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Thank you.
Exactly what I meant.
bcnice20 said:
Internet sharing works with any pri on darchlegend
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Interesting...so error code 67 is not tied to the PRI...
Ok so I had Damagecontrol2.05...works great!...just cant use internet sharing.
Installed Darchlegend and it was ok...but not as good, however internet sharing works. Getting strang txt messages like from voicestream, and I am on sprint.
Voicemail wouldnt work properly. So went back to Damagecontrol2.05 for now and trying to figure out how to get internet sharing working.
Fordwrench
OK, Since Root is out I just rooted my phone and installed the Wifi Tether app (avaiable in the market) and it works like a charm.
Have a friend with an iPhone and she was able to connect right up and get online.
Gotta' love root..
Recent convert
I am a recent cover from blackberry to android. One thing I am interested in is rooting. It seems like it us a must to get everything out of the phone... However it also seems much more complicated than loading a beta os on a bb. Can you point me to a good, step by step instruction site on rooting my X. I'm not a "geek" or anything close. I just want to get everything I can out of these devices. Also, does the app you mention work with all macs? I noticed a lot of apps only work with pcs.
showson1 said:
OK, Since Root is out I just rooted my phone and installed the Wifi Tether app (avaiable in the market) and it works like a charm.
Have a friend with an iPhone and she was able to connect right up and get online.
Gotta' love root..
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+1 and confirmed. Rooted and Tethered myself this morning.
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I am a recent cover from blackberry to android. One thing I am interested in is rooting. It seems like it us a must to get everything out of the phone... However it also seems much more complicated than loading a beta os on a bb. Can you point me to a good, step by step instruction site on rooting my X. I'm not a "geek" or anything close. I just want to get everything I can out of these devices. Also, does the app you mention work with all macs? I noticed a lot of apps only work with pcs.
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WiFi tether is of course OS agnostic. It sets your phone up as an access point.
Other apps are USB or possibly Bluetooth tethering, and that might require a client side app.
to Root:
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/07/23/videos-how-to-root-the-droid-x/
Thanks for the help. if i understand correctly, the app would allow for wifi hotspot without paying the$ 20. Fee to vzw?
BB2DX said:
Thanks for the help. if i understand correctly, the app would allow for wifi hotspot without paying the$ 20. Fee to vzw?
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Yes.
The "legality" (Violates TOS, etc) is another matter.
Ok.
I've looked at the sites explaining the rooting process and I think I get it. The crackberry community was great about providing support to people who wanted to do more. So far the android community seems on part with that, just need a rooting and android/linux for dummies site. Its a lot more technical than the bb os.
BB2DX said:
I've looked at the sites explaining the rooting process and I think I get it. The crackberry community was great about providing support to people who wanted to do more. So far the android community seems on part with that, just need a rooting and android/linux for dummies site. Its a lot more technical than the bb os.
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The "hardest" part of this will be setting up the Android SDK and making sure adb works properly.
This is my sort-of first Android phone (I had the Droid 1 on launch day, but took it back), so much of this is new to me too. I do have some minor linux experience, which helps, but I just followed the video link I posted step for step and had no problems.
The problem is, I don't know what android sdk or adb mean. That's why i'm not rushing into rooting. I am scared to brick this device. I love it (except for 8 hour charge on battery. But coming from a bb I should expect not to get the same two days) and am afraid of making a mistake due to lack of knowledge.
gonna post the info from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7334641&postcount=9 here again just in case u guys dont end up to see it
Here is a few things to keep in mind..
The Verizon 3G app is infrastructure, thus it works with things like PSP and Nintendo DS, which is why i keep it. The Wireless tether apps are only ad-hoc for now.
From what ive been told, the verizon app loads a different firmware in the wi chip before running.
this is why i ONLY use the hot app for PSP and DS and the rest wi-t for root
Hope this helps
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The problem is, I don't know what android sdk or adb mean. That's why i'm not rushing into rooting. I am scared to brick this device. I love it (except for 8 hour charge on battery. But coming from a bb I should expect not to get the same two days) and am afraid of making a mistake due to lack of knowledge.
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You are wise to want to read all you can before jumping in.
Android SDK is the 'Software Development Kit'. It's the tools/drivers from Google that allow direct interaction with your android phone. While ostensibly intended for developers, it is the tool you will need.
ADB = Android Debug Bridge. It's a tool that comes with the SDK. It's a command line shell that allows you to push/pull files directly to the phone as well as open a shell (android is just a mini/modified version of linux - hence needing to get 'root' to be able to modify system related files).
Here is a link to a tutorial on how to take screen shots on the Droid X.
This is another thing that can be done with the SDK, so the important part of this tutorial is getting the SDK installed.
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/07/22/how-to-take-screenshots-with-the-droid-x/
Hope that helps.
could have sworn DS and psp could connect to adhocs just fine, i know the wii can.
I've tried this with my nintendo wii. It finds the access point justice fine, but won't actually connect. Does anyone have any clues of possible setup corrections necessary?
I'm using the sapphire 32b.
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could have sworn DS and psp could connect to adhocs just fine, i know the wii can.
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no dice, trust me on that.. they can do ad-hoc if they are doing multiplayer gaming with other ds or psp units but not to go online
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OK i hope to wifi tether as well. What is the process to set this up and what apps specifically do I need to get once I get my droid x? Thanks in advance.
aplechaty said:
OK i hope to wifi tether as well. What is the process to set this up and what apps specifically do I need to get once I get my droid x? Thanks in advance.
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See the various threads about Rooting your X.
If you want to pay VZW, then the app is already on there. If you want to cheat, you will need to Root.
I downloaded the droidxrootv2 zip file to my pc. The videos mention ADB what is this, and where do i get the drivers for it? Also is the wifi tether app named as such or is it called something else on marketplace? Thanks.
Anyone with the AT&T HTC One X been able to find a way to enable tethering?
I know that Roger users get tethering enabled for free, unfortunately AT&T doesn't give us the same courtesy in the US.
I found this trick listed for enabling Tethering on the Galaxy Nexus that works on non-rooted devices.
"Elixer 2
Pros: Free
Cons: Confusing to setup at first
1. Install Elixer2
2. Install Elixer2 Widgets
The way I think this works is, you need to install Elixer2 to give you tons of tools and information about your device, so that the widgets work correctly.
Elixer2 Widgets gives you widget tools to create widgets for your device.
You can create a "Wi-Fi AP (Hotspot) toggle" widget that turns on Portable Wifi Hotspot. Doing this bypasses the wireless carrier check, and allows you to modify your AP settings to create a Hotspot."
I was curious if anyone knows if the Elixer 2 trick works on the AT&T HTC One X too?
Or perhaps someone else has been able to figure out another way since there isn't a root method available yet for the HTC One X.
Tasker widget might be able to do this as well.
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Tasker widget might be able to do this as well.
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Ah, has anyone tried using Elixer 2 or Tasker to enable tethering on an AT&T HOX?
You can tether on any device. Just install the right app or root. However, within a few hours to a few months, att will see and give you a warnign to stop tethring. If you continue, they auto-upgrade you to a tethering line. There is no way to go around it.
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You can tether on any device. Just install the right app or root. However, within a few hours to a few months, att will see and give you a warnign to stop tethring. If you continue, they auto-upgrade you to a tethering line. There is no way to go around it.
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That is not true that they will eventually detect. I have been using tethering for a while on my iPhone and it hasn't been detected. It all has to do with that you need to make sure to use the right APN.
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You can tether on any device. Just install the right app or root. However, within a few hours to a few months, att will see and give you a warnign to stop tethring. If you continue, they auto-upgrade you to a tethering line. There is no way to go around it.
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That's what custom ROM's are for. I don't abuse tethering, I do it occasionally and have never received any type of warning from ATT. Proper custom ROM's remove all kinds of traceable software back to the carriers. (e.g. CM9)
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That's what custom ROM's are for. I don't abuse tethering, I do it occasionally and have never received any type of warning from ATT. Proper custom ROM's remove all kinds of traceable software back to the carriers. (e.g. CM9)
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I am very aware that with a custom ROM or even a root app like Wifi Tether that you can easily enable tethering. However, I am trying to find out if there is a solution to get it working if you are not rooted.
Right now there is no custom ROMs or even a root for the AT&T HTC One X so the custom ROMs or even Wifi Tether are not an option. So back to my original question does anyone know if Elixer 2 or Tasker work for enabling tethering on the HTC One X?
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I am very aware that with a custom ROM or even a root app like Wifi Tether that you can easily enable tethering. However, I am trying to find out if there is a solution to get it working if you are not rooted.
Right now there is no custom ROMs or even a root for the AT&T HTC One X so the custom ROMs or even Wifi Tether are not an option. So back to my original question does anyone know if Elixer 2 or Tasker work for enabling tethering on the HTC One X?
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I understood that, sorry for side stepping on the topic. I got caught up answering that there is a way around the carrier knowing about your tethering.
I don't know how much similarity between HTC's tethering code and Samsung's tethering code, I tried your apps mentioned above on my Samsung GS2 running latest AT&T ICS leak and it didn't work. It does bypass the account checking but there is no internet connection from the tethered devices what so ever. The new tethering code for these Samsung devices in ICS leaks are much difficult to bypass now than the ones in GB.
We will know it once we have AT&T HOX in hand.
This is the easiest solution that works on all android devices.
http://code.google.com/p/proxoid/
Proxy server and adb port forwarding ftw
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That is not true that they will eventually detect. I have been using tethering for a while on my iPhone and it hasn't been detected. It all has to do with that you need to make sure to use the right APN.
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I guess its luck of the draw then lol, i tetherd like 300 mb 2 monthes ago and got an att text warning 3 days later.
Just as an update, the Rogers RUU is online now, you can find it in the DEV section. Those who wanna attempt to flash its boot.img and system.img to an AT&T phone, knock yourselves out!
Not saying it's gonna work necessarily...
Easy Tether always worked for me. It uses the Android debugging mode. You need to use USB but whatever. Totally worthwhile (costs about $10 one time fee) and I'm not sure how they would detect this. IF they gave you a hard time you could simply explain that you develop Android apps and that you're not tethering. They may buy that.
When tethering is enabled through the device via normal means, then I think they would know about it...But if you're going through the debugger, I just can't see how they would know.
If they ever did or worse yet, IF any carrier is collecting data about user agents, etc. to see if you're using a desktop browser...Then I think that's a severe privacy concern.
I would hope anyone getting a warning from a carrier would because they have a rooted phone and they have the actual tethering system feature enabled for which the operating system likely sends up some sort of flag to notify the carrier (hence why people are saying it depends on what ROM you're using). OR because of their usage patterns, ie. heavy usage in short periods of time. A phone can only have so many browser tabs open and use so much data in a short period of time. They have this stuff down to a science.
However...If you're tethering to check your e-mail, browse a little, do work, and like me...build web sites and what not from Starbucks (because their free WiFi doesn't allow you to use SSH) then I really can't imagine you'd get an angry letter.
Again, this is all speculation...I use Sprint and never had an issue. However, come Sunday I will be switching to AT&T for the better looking HTC One X...Oh right and for the working 4G. Despite half the storage space.
Elixir 2/Widgets does not work on my ATT HOX for the mobile AP. I still get the "call 611 to enable tethering" popup.
Has anyone tried Foxfi from the market?
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FoxFi does not support wifi for any HTC phones, only Bluetooth (as stated in-app).
Foxfi keeps giving me some cryptic error message "fail to open bluetooth". Being unable to root / tether and downgrade from 32gb to 16gb (and in actuality 9.96 gb) is really pissing me off...
Edit: Easy Tether works. Just using the free version so far, no issues yet. Will know more extensively in the next few days.
Clockworkmod
I use tether from clockworkmod. cost $4.99 USB only though
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Edit: Easy Tether works. Just using the free version so far, no issues yet. Will know more extensively in the next few days.
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Looking forward to hearing about this, really bugging me that I can't tether (Damn it AT&T).
rooted ATT HTC One X via one click root
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WiFi Tether version 3.1 beta14
Settings:
- Device Profile: Generic ICS
- Enable Routing Fix
Works Perfect
Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, or whatnot. Just so many darn sub-categories..
Anyways, I've had a HTC Inspire 4G before, thought I would love an iPhone 4s, well I jailbroke it and such, and still missed Android. So today I purchased another Inspire 4G on eBay.
It'll arrive Saturday, and I wanna root it, and flash it with a custom ROM.
Is CM7 or CM9 better? I was curious about CM9, since my Inspire is only single-core with 512mb of RAM. Isn't that borderline?
Alright my main question is: I want free Wi-Fi tethering on my Android, someone told me when I flash it to CM7, I can enable Wi-Fi tethering, and AT&T won't ever catch it. Is that true? Cuz I had an app on my iPhone from Cydia, that allowed me to tether Wi-Fi for my laptop, and it worked amazing. I really want that on this Android phone, but also want a program that works well, and that won't get caught easily by AT&T (I guess it needs it's own VPN, instead of using AT&T's).
Thanks for any and all help, and sorry again if I posted in the wrong section. -EG91
The main thing you need is for your computer to-be-tethered...you need an addon for your browser that Allows you to change your agent settings. Super user agent For firefox works great
Gotcha..
Hmm, so it won't be like the real Wi-Fi hotspot then? Cuz on my iPhone, I could press the Wi-Fi tether button, then find the wireless signal on any phone or laptop, and connect to it easily.
I was hoping I could do something like that with my Android..
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Gotcha..
Hmm, so it won't be like the real Wi-Fi hotspot then? Cuz on my iPhone, I could press the Wi-Fi tether button, then find the wireless signal on any phone or laptop, and connect to it easily.
I was hoping I could do something like that with my Android..
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Just Root the Device. Then Download and Install THIS