HI
Been playing around with my Sensation.
What i noticed while sitting in my front room. GRound floor, i have 2-4 bars with the phone on the table.
0-1 bars when deathgripped even 2 bars if im lucky bars BUT WHEN IM ON A CALL. i rang the normal o2 top up line
DEATHGRIPPED IN MY LAP. from 1 bar it jumped to 4 bars and idling between 3-4 bars, no matter how i deathgrip it, it wont go lower than 2 while on a call if i deathgrip it really HARD????
so normal 3-4 bars,
deathgripped 0-2 bars
ring a number deathgripped 3-4 bars or possibly 2
could this be a software issue?
anyone else confirm this asap please
ikhzter said:
HI
Been playing around with my Sensation.
What i noticed while sitting in my front room. GRound floor, i have 2-4 bars with the phone on the table.
0-1 bars when deathgripped even 2 bars if im lucky bars BUT WHEN IM ON A CALL. i rang the normal o2 top up line
DEATHGRIPPED IN MY LAP. from 1 bar it jumped to 4 bars and idling between 3-4 bars, no matter how i deathgrip it, it wont go lower than 2 while on a call if i deathgrip it really HARD????
so normal 3-4 bars,
deathgripped 0-2 bars
ring a number deathgripped 3-4 bars or possibly 2
could this be a software issue?
anyone else confirm this asap please
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That's w.e.i.r.d.
The call doesn't drop I suppose? Maybe it's because it's emitting a more powerfull signal while on a call and the deathgrip doesn't affect it. It's very confusing though...
giorgisp said:
That's w.e.i.r.d.
The call doesn't drop I suppose? Maybe it's because it's emitting a more powerfull signal while on a call and the deathgrip doesn't affect it. It's very confusing though...
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CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TRY THIS. THIS NEEDS TO BE VERIFIED WITH MORE SENSATIONS.
IF WE CAN THEN WE KNOW ITS SOFTWARE ISSUE, im thinking of even posting a video of it.
Deathgrip it hard and i lose al my bars even or down to 1 while not on a call,
but while on a call its 3-4 bars, deathgripped hard its 2 otherwise 3-4
NO WAY, DEATHGRIPPED AT 1 bar. PRESSED CALL, after 15 seconds it jumped to 4 bar in the same position
Simple. On standby it doesn't use as much power to keep signal up as it does when you talk. Why do you think mA usage increases when you talk on the phone?
This is normal. In sby, phone doesn't need perfect signal, it just needs some signal to receive incoming calls, sms, data, then it wakes up and upps the power used for connection with mast/s, so you have good quality connection.
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Simple. On standby it doesn't use as much power to keep signal up as it does when you talk. Why do you think mA usage increases when you talk on the phone?
This is normal. In sby, phone doesn't need perfect signal, it just needs some signal to receive incoming calls, sms, data, then it wakes up and upps the power used for connection with mast/s, so you have good quality connection.
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oh lol i thought i made an astounding discovery, never mind. lol
still getting ri of it and going back to my DHD
ikhzter said:
oh lol i thought i made an astounding discovery, never mind. lol
still getting ri of it and going back to my DHD
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Why do you wanna do that? Isn't Sensation better than DHD?
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Why do you wanna do that? Isn't Sensation better than DHD?
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Im in two minds at the moment, i have no idea what to do. sensation is better, dhd is similiar in signal, also hold it flat landscape it too drops wifi. now that i have noticed, but sensation signal is pretty noticable as it is easily deathgripped due to its shape, so im not sure whether to keep it or not with these deathgrip issues
i absolutely love it but the deathgrip is letting it down
dont like sgs2, its ugly and also quite a few issues on it too.
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Im in two minds at the moment, i have no idea what to do. sensation is better, dhd is similiar in signal, also hold it flat landscape it too drops wifi. now that i have noticed, but sensation signal is pretty noticable as it is easily deathgripped due to its shape, so im not sure whether to keep it or not with these deathgrip issues
i absolutely love it but the deathgrip is letting it down
dont like sgs2, its ugly and also quite a few issues on it too.
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I haven't seen any phone with no issue. If that makes a problem of course you should give it back or think about replace. Because there are people saying that there is no issue at all.
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I haven't seen any phone with no issue. If that makes a problem of course you should give it back or think about replace. Because there are people saying that there is no issue at all.
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I have. My Desire once it had motherboard replaced. BEST phone i ever had, better than sensation, even stock.
But i'm a geek, i want/need new, and sensations dual core is fair bit more future proof than Desire. Can't wait to see what can be done with it once bootloader is unlocked.
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I haven't seen any phone with no issue. If that makes a problem of course you should give it back or think about replace. Because there are people saying that there is no issue at all.
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HTC offered to take it in under warranty, repair or refurbish it for me ?
should i let them?
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HTC offered to take it in under warranty, repair or refurbish it for me ?
should i let them?
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If you have NO other problems, i wouldn't. It's design issue, so repair, another phone won't fix it. But it's up to you if you want to give it a go.
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I have. My Desire once it had motherboard replaced. BEST phone i ever had, better than sensation, even stock.
But i'm a geek, i want/need new, and sensations dual core is fair bit more future proof than Desire. Can't wait to see what can be done with it once bootloader is unlocked.
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I had Desire too. I loved it. But it has problems too. Its display couldn't see even a bit under sunlight. It had dual touch not real multitouch. etc. That's the way how they sell newe phones.
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HTC offered to take it in under warranty, repair or refurbish it for me ?
should i let them?
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If you think you can't live wthout Sensation you should try it. But keep in mind that might not help either.
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I had Desire too. I loved it. But it has problems too. Its display couldn't see under sunlight. It had dual touch not real multitouch. etc. That's the way how they sell newe phones.
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I see these as shortcomings, not a fault tbh. There is always better technology out there, no matter how new your device is.
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I see these as shortcomings, not a fault tbh. There is always better technology out there, no matter how new your device is.
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Agree and in addition to that I see this deathgrip issue as shortcoming too. Better or worse all phones have that.
This is a simple powersaving issue. The amplifier for the phone antenna does not to run at full tilt when it's idling in passive mode. Think of it like CPU scaling.
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That might be a good explanation.
Also we all know that phones consume more power when there isn't enough signal from base station. So we can say phones are able to set this according to situation.
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lol i feel sheepish now, so basically there is no software issue at all , we just have to live with this,
the dhd fared better though because it was bulkier it spread out in our hands, so itwasnt deathgripped often
The term death grip is incorrect not mstter how youbhold it the signal does not die it just loses power so atcually it is more a choke grip then death
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But on certain position it drops wifi and bluetooth?
mt4g royal ginger v2.1
Gregory.u317 said:
But on certain position it drops wifi and bluetooth?
mt4g royal ginger v2.1
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Yes and no. If you only have one bar for wifi, and then grip it tight, then yes, signal will drop, if you have a few bars, signal will just become worse, but you won't lose it completely.
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I've got a brand new Desire S and I love it. Fast, smooth, responsive. Battery life (OK, over my total 2 days of ownership only!) has been brilliant - 9% drop overnight for example.
I'm about to return it.
Why? Because of one thing that makes it almost unusable.
I am, of course, referring to the "Grip of Death" - as per the iPhone 4.
There are a few oblique references to this on the net, but I can't find any detailed posts.
Some mention has been made about this only being a WiFi issue, and it is true that WiFi is badly affected. However I also see 3G signal drops when I hold the phone in portrait mode with my hand wrapping around the base (as most people would in normal "phone" use) - which is, of course, where the antenna is (incorporated into the battery cover)
The WiFi drops on mine are tragic - I can be 3 metres from an access point and if you hold the phone incorrectly (!) the WiFi signal drops out completely and you are on 3G data. Even if directly under the AP you can easily get the signal indicator to drop from full to under 50%.
However the 3G drops are also bad. In my flat, which has a good signal, I can get to one or zero bars of 3G signal just by picking up the phone.
So I have a phone that is unreliable in picking up calls, switches to 3G data when there is a perfectly good AP just nearby, and is basically, generally unreliable.
It's a shame because, apart from this, it's a brilliant little device.
Am I the only one affected this badly? Maybe I have a poor example?
I have a case arriving today to see if it will help. Otherwise it's back to the shop!
hmm..you are the first person to report a drop in 3g signal
can any one else confirm this?
or is it just that the OP got a defective unit?
(i am unable to test as i still dont have my device yet )
I'm wondering if only certain phones are affected. Engadget doesn't mention it and this review specifically says it isn't a problem. It is a mixed bag of responses from posters here. Is it possible that Techradar got an early review model and the problem has since been fixed? You think HTC would comment one way or another since this could affect sales.
Just tried it on my DS, but the death grip does not influence my 3G signal.
With wifi on, I manage to lose only a little bit of signal while holding it in such an unnatural way that it will never occur using it normally.
TheUndutchable said:
Just tried it on my DS, but the death grip does not influence my 3G signal.
With wifi on, I manage to lose only a little bit of signal while holding it in such an unnatural way that it will never occur using it normally.
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can you try covering the back of your device as much as you can with your hands & test the wifi & 3g signal?
it would be very helpful for us
Covered the back as much as I could, no problems with 3G, Wifi drops to zero...
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Covered the back as much as I could, no problems with 3G, Wifi drops to zero...
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i am relived that there is no 3g signal drop
the wifi part is a bit depressing but i can manage without wifi...(but hope they fix it somehow)
@JonathonDesmond i think you got a defective unit try returning it for a new piece
& also tell us if the case helped
kartkk said:
i am relived that there is no 3g signal drop
the wifi part is a bit depressing but i can manage without wifi...(but hope they fix it somehow)
You will never hold the phone like I did when using the phone normally. I pressed some buttons with my nose
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You will never hold the phone like I did when using the phone normally. I pressed some buttons with my nose
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lol
but i hope htc does something like give replacement battery covers which fix the issue..because that is the only hardware defect that people are exaggerating about..
Ok, a few tests, as long as I still have it:
Portrait mode:
No issues in normal one- or two-handed operation.
As soon as something, e. g. my hand, covers the top plastic part at the back the wifi signal goes from all bars down to the dot, or disconnects entirely. I'm not so sure about the mobile signal, some of the time it drops to about half the bars it's had before, but with a considerable delay, and it's a bit erratic at the best of times, so it might just as well be other (environmental) causes.
Landscape:
I really only do this two-handed, with the left hand holding the phone, fingers bunched behind it, thumb in front, covering the HTC logo and first few mm of the screen; the right hand operates and/or stabilizes the phone.
This instantly kills the wifi stone cold dead. 3G actually stayed the same or got better(!)
To sum up: wifi is badly affected to the point of uselessness, 3G doesn't seem to be.
hmm..
can you try the wifi again in landscape? this time without touching the aluminum part of the phone?
(dont cover the aluminum part with your hand or any other item)
kartkk said:
can you try the wifi again in landscape? this time without touching the aluminum part of the phone?
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Actually, I don't see how that would be possible? Covering the top plastic part without covering anything else, I mean. I tried a few contortions and nearly dropped it.
Care to elaborate?
it is a bit tricky i know (dont drop your phone trying lol)
how about putting on top of two books?(such that the books only touch the plastic )
i just want to know if it is the metal chassis which is causing this problem
Good thinking!
Desire S propped up on two stacks of books so that nothing touches the alu parts: all bars. (It did drop one bar from time to time, but that's just normal fluctuations, whereas putting it down on a desk or something reliably takes it down a notch.)
please people contact htc
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please people contact htc
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Why? We arent't their QA department and I've no hopes of getting more than ... err ... yes, "You're holding it wrong." in soothing customer rep speak. Raising awareness of the issue is the best one can do, IMHO - once the tech mainstream press picks this up there's at least a chance of a fix. (That is, if one is actually possible, it might be a concession to the design.)
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Why? We arent't their QA department and I've no hopes of getting more than ... err ... yes, "You're holding it wrong." in soothing customer rep speak. Raising awareness of the issue is the best one can do, IMHO - once the tech mainstream press picks this up there's at least a chance of a fix. (That is, if one is actually possible, it might be a concession to the design.)
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i'm in contact whit the HTC Dutch support desk. After a view mails whit the 1st line of support they send me to the technical support.
It looks like that they are doing there job.
i tried and tried and tried again... i couldnt find any sings of the grip of death!!
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Good thinking!
Desire S propped up on two stacks of books so that nothing touches the alu parts: all bars. (It did drop one bar from time to time, but that's just normal fluctuations, whereas putting it down on a desk or something reliably takes it down a notch.)
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just as i thought it is the metal chasis....
i have heard that wifi has problems passing through metal...
if this really is the reason then i think nothing much can be done ...
can someone else also verify this?
just got phone and wifi definitely drops when held landscape
Ive noticed that 4g signal strength drops drastically when holding the phone normally in portrait mode.
Are u guys experiencing the same issue?
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xdmds said:
Ive noticed that 4g signal strength drops drastically when holding the phone normally in portrait mode.
Are u guys experiencing the same issue?
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If I hold the phone by the top half with my hand cupped over the top, I can get it to lose reception. I doubt that will ever be an issue though.
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If my hand covers the bottom of the phone (which is always when I hold it in portrait mode), then my signal drops significantly. Is this normal for this phone or is it an isolated defect?
I don't have any issues with that myself
I think you're on your own on this one OP.
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If my hand covers the bottom of the phone (which is always when I hold it in portrait mode), then my signal drops significantly. Is this normal for this phone or is it an isolated defect?
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+1 I reported this a while back. I also noticed that my Speck case which tightly holds the phone case seemed to cause signal problems...I've since removed the Speck.
xdmds said:
Ive noticed that 4g signal strength drops drastically when holding the phone normally in portrait mode.
Are u guys experiencing the same issue?
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i notice it sometimes. ive experienced that with some of my other devices. it only occurs here and there. havent had a dropped call one*knock on wood* and im expecting a case in the mail so that will solve the issue anyway.
This happens on many small phones where antennas are near the housing , depending where you hold it you'll affect the antenna's reception. For xeample, On the EVO if you hold the top half the 4G reception decreases, and the bottom half the wifi and cdma decreases
All of you, please research antenna attenuation.
This will happen in all phones where the antenna is near the surface. Signal does not travel through your hand as easy as it does air.
The iphone issue was more pronounced because the exterior antenna. Also, one could ground out the antenna completely by bridging the sections.
That is a deathgrip issue. Just a decrease in signal strength is an attenuation norm.
Although signal does seem to drops data speeds on this phone are faster than my mt4g even when my g2x shows lower signal so i guess its not rly a problem
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If my hand covers the bottom of the phone (which is always when I hold it in portrait mode), then my signal drops significantly. Is this normal for this phone or is it an isolated defect?
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This happens to me too. Especially in poor signal area. I would drop 3G/4G signal all together, and go to 2G.
+1 to this, I've noticed when I stick my phone in my boxer briefs that the reception does indeed drop down to nil
thank god for wifi calling though
For my phone I have 4G icon on screen and no bars, I can get call in my house finally.
It never ceases to amaze me how no matter what, there seems to always be some people that go out of their way to find something wrong with their phone. I really don't get it. Some people are probably better of with a Razr....
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It never ceases to amaze me how no matter what, there seems to always be some people that go out of their way to find something wrong with their phone. I really don't get it. Some people are probably better of with a Razr....
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Was just thinking, **** add another thing to the issues list even though its not a problem... If theres a thread others will believe it.... So now everyone trolling this thread thinks theres a death grip issue when there is not..
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It never ceases to amaze me how no matter what, there seems to always be some people that go out of their way to find something wrong with their phone. I really don't get it. Some people are probably better of with a Razr....
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LOL !!!
update: I went to exchange my phone yesterday and it turns out that phone was just defective.
this new phone I have (although we went through like 3 and they all had backlight bleed) does not have signal drop when I hold it.
I believe the antenna is indeed on the bottom of the device. If you remove the back plate you'll see a sticker on the bottom of the phone. Try covering that sticker completely and you'll see your signal drop.
According to some people, after removing that sticker, they attained a slightly better and consistent signal.
Since removing it, I've noticed a much faster, better amd consistent connection, WAY better now. Hard to believe a silly sticker could cause so much trouble hahahaha
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I had removed the sticker last night and I got 1 more bar and my dl/up speeds improved. Was getting Max 1.5 - 2 dl and 500 up now I get up to 10 megs down and 3 up in my house.
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Does anyone think software update, custom roms, new radios, or kernals will be able to cure deathgrip to an extent where the level is acceptable.
my sensation wifi deathgrip doesnt bother me much, its the deathgrip for the antenna, i just hold it naturally and it drops from 3 4 bars to 0-2 bars.
also unknowingly i have dropped a call twice
ikhzter said:
Does anyone think software update, custom roms, new radios, or kernals will be able to cure deathgrip to an extent where the level is acceptable.
my sensation wifi deathgrip doesnt bother me much, its the deathgrip for the antenna, i just hold it naturally and it drops from 3 4 bars to 0-2 bars.
also unknowingly i have dropped a call twice
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Its the design of the case. Take the back case off and its even worse.
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Its the design of the case. Take the back case off and its even worse.
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yeh i know, i dont like it, wifi isnt an issue for me i can cope with holding it, but i feel the network signal isnt as good as it should be, i have had two calls drop unknowingly, not sure if it was sensations fault or not, but compared to my dhd im always one or two bars down, sometimes none while my dhd does have signal
This only causes an issue if you have a very weak signal, it really isn't worth worrying about, none of the top end Android phones (or iPhone for that matter) are good to have if you're in bad signal areas.
Calls shouldn't drop either, as more power is sent to the antenna when you're on a call. The severity of it seems to vary between the phones at the moment.
there are already 2 threads discussing the issue, why make another one?
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there are already 2 threads discussing the issue, why make another one?
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think software update, custom roms, new radios, or kernals will be able to cure deathgrip to an extent where the level is acceptable.
whether there is a chance these could improve it a little bit.
Not sure why but I'm feeling like beta tester of HTC Sensation.
I think everyone have problem with deathgrip its only depends how you holding the phone.
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Not sure why but I'm feeling like beta tester of HTC Sensation.
I think everyone have problem with deathgrip its only depends how you holding the phone.
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I disagree. I've tried holding the phone flat, smothering it, normally, I can't see a significant problem here. The signal (mobile or wifi) only drops if it is very weak to begin with, most phones have this problem.
It doesn't seem particularly potent to me at all.
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I disagree. I've tried holding the phone flat, smothering it, normally, I can't see a significant problem here. The signal (mobile or wifi) only drops if it is very weak to begin with, most phones have this problem.
It doesn't seem particularly potent to me at all.
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I have no issues either.
I find that since I haven't viewed an example of said death grip, I haven't performed it. Once I see how it's done, it'll bug the never ending ****e out of me.
Out of sight out of mind.
im coming from a nexus s , now that had wifi signal problems.. this phone is hella better
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I have no issues either.
I find that since I haven't viewed an example of said death grip, I haven't performed it. Once I see how it's done, it'll bug the never ending ****e out of me.
Out of sight out of mind.
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It wouldn't matter anyway as if you aren't having issues now you won't have issues while trying to perform it.
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It wouldn't matter anyway as if you aren't having issues now you won't have issues while trying to perform it.
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cool i dont know why im letting it getting to me, i mean having one or 2 network bars isnt bad???
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cool i dont know why im letting it getting to me, i mean having one or 2 network bars isnt bad???
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If your post is being sarcastic, then I advise you that you probably have a weak signal, and therefore you are experiencing other problems.
If you have a really strong signal with another phone and then lose it by doing the 'death grip' on your Sensation, your antenna is probably faulty.
I don't have any issues with my sensation ay all.
Could someone please try this. death gripped my antenna until I had no network signal. 0 bars
Made a cal with zero bars to the 02 pay and go top up line and to my other phone. Cal went through fine with 0 bars showing for network signal while deathgripped.
I can still make a clear cal while death gripping my network signal to zero bars.
Anyone else confirm this
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I just called HTC and had them send me out a new battery door. I was having problems with the signals. Have any of you had these same problems? If so have Yall got a replacement from HTC and did it fix the issue?
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nope, haven't had any reception/signal issues at all.
I believe the death-grip affects your wi-fi signal. When I move my phone to landscape mode and hold it as indicated in some videos, momentarily a bar goes down in my wifi signal but nothing like an interuption. It doesn't drop (and reconnect) wifi either.
It seems to be a hit or a miss with these phones
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I believe the death-grip affects your wi-fi signal. When I move my phone to landscape mode and hold it as indicated in some videos, momentarily a bar goes down in my wifi signal but nothing like an interuption. It doesn't drop (and reconnect) wifi either.
It seems to be a hit or a miss with these phones
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This is why I'd really like it if someone who replaces their battery cover could post before and after wifi signal strength from the same location. It is possible that there has been a redesigned battery cover with a better antenna placement.
I only lost 1 signal bar so i think its normal - like other phones
I am currently having a HUGE problem with death grip. So bad that it drops my WiFi calling when im texting in landscape even from about 15 feet from my router. I am going to call HTC tomorrow and request a new back cover just because its a free step I can take to try and fix it.
seems like HTC have a problem with this model
i have to wait 7 days for my Sensation to come from service
then i will see what is the next step... media, solicitor .... we will see
signal its rubish anyway
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I am currently having a HUGE problem with death grip. So bad that it drops my WiFi calling when im texting in landscape even from about 15 feet from my router. I am going to call HTC tomorrow and request a new back cover just because its a free step I can take to try and fix it.
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ok... so after reading your post I decided to test it out. My router is on the 2nd floor in the study. I used landscape mode to send a couple of emails and texts from the first floor and outside my home. The signal dropped a couple of bars each time and recovered. Didn't drop the wifi signal for sure.
I think it is still a problem and HTC needs to get a fix out. Don't know if it will be a f/w or h/w but it needs to be out. I guess if everyone having this issue raises enough hell, HTC may act sooner.
The 4g phones seem to have a different placement of the wifi antenna and does not contain a death grip like problem due to this reposition.
You can higher the wifi signal (battery usage) in the wifi advanced settings.
Doesn´t help anyway?
All sensations will do this. Rooting the phone and installing custom ROM will fix the issue. Before if i placed my hand over the top of the phone, wifi would drop, sometimes even lose signal entirely. Now after root and ROM, it doesn't even drop one bit.
I was about to return my phone due to this issue, i am glad I waited a bit.
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All sensations will do this. Rooting the phone and installing custom ROM will fix the issue. Before if i placed my hand over the top of the phone, wifi would drop, sometimes even lose signal entirely. Now after root and ROM, it doesn't even drop one bit.
I was about to return my phone due to this issue, i am glad I waited a bit.
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My phone is rooted (s-off) with all bloatware removed. Its still on stock ROM though.
Since we have S-OFF now, the custom ROM's for sensation have started to flow. Just waiting on those ROM's to be stable before deciding on which one to use.
BTW which ROM are you using!!!
Changing the back cover will make no difference. I got a replacement and saw no difference at all.
When I would go into landscape I would lose 1-2 wifi bars, but after I flashed Android Revolution 1.1.6 and kept the stock radio I started only losing 1 bar if any at all.
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My phone is rooted (s-off) with all bloatware removed. Its still on stock ROM though.
Since we have S-OFF now, the custom ROM's for sensation have started to flow. Just waiting on those ROM's to be stable before deciding on which one to use.
BTW which ROM are you using!!!
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I am using:
InsertCoin Sense Android 2.3.4 STABLE 1.2
I have tried them all. This one is by far the best for everyday use.
Everyone complaining about death grip. It's there on all phones, it will go away with a root and custom ROM.
I haven't experienced this at all. compared to my buddies iphone 4 where there is a serious death grip problem any drop in signal on my sensation is moot.
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This is why I'd really like it if someone who replaces their battery cover could post before and after wifi signal strength from the same location. It is possible that there has been a redesigned battery cover with a better antenna placement.
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I've heard that it does, but I'm still waiting on mine to arrive. We have FAR FAR lower signal strength with this phone than with our other phones (motorola cliq / mytouch 4g's)
I just checked and I'm on zero bars right now. I usually have 4 bars right here with my other phone. It's rediculous. Holding the phone reduces my signal strength by ~40-50%. It can completely lose signal, right under a tower (in visual range) if you hold your hand flat against the back.
Flashindude said:
I only lost 1 signal bar so i think its normal - like other phones
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For many people, this is not the case. I know there are different revisions for the back cover. I think it is due to that.
jjcobm said:
I am using:
InsertCoin Sense Android 2.3.4 STABLE 1.2
I have tried them all. This one is by far the best for everyday use.
Everyone complaining about death grip. It's there on all phones, it will go away with a root and custom ROM.
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Glad this is the case for you. It is not for me.
chisleu said:
I've heard that it does, but I'm still waiting on mine to arrive. We have FAR FAR lower signal strength with this phone than with our other phones (motorola cliq / mytouch 4g's)
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Did your wifi situation improve after u got the new cover? my device sucks.. it drops all the way down to zero.. thinking of getting the g2x instead
Signal is good when phone is turned to 2G only, so this appears to be a firmw-/software issue rather than a battery-cover issue.
I had the same problem when i first recieved the devie but as you say custom rom sorted that
I got a my phone at best buy today and I have 2 complaints, speakerphone call quality is very bad, I can hear like if there is a fan blowing air into the microphone while I'm in a quite room. The other thing I noticed was the signal strength, my wife Samsung Stratosphere has 3-4 bars and my S3 has 1-2 bars. Did I get a bad phone or that's the way the phone works?
TIA!
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I got a my phone at best buy today and I have 2 complaints, speakerphone call quality is very bad, I can hear like if there is a fan blowing air into the microphone while I'm in a quite room. The other thing I noticed was the signal strength, my wife Samsung Stratosphere has 3-4 bars and my S3 has 1-2 bars. Did I get a bad phone or that's the way the phone works?
TIA!
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Can you elaborate a little on your user experience? Sounds like a faulty phone but please give more info
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Vertig0 said:
I got a my phone at best buy today and I have 2 complaints, speakerphone call quality is very bad, I can hear like if there is a fan blowing air into the microphone while I'm in a quite room. The other thing I noticed was the signal strength, my wife Samsung Stratosphere has 3-4 bars and my S3 has 1-2 bars. Did I get a bad phone or that's the way the phone works?
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The number of bars displayed is not directly comparable. Phones can be configured to display a certain number of bars at a certain signal strength. Both phones could have the exact same single strength and be calibrated to visually display entirely differently.
Bars mean nothing. Apple once changes the bars to "better reflect network connections" or something... signal strength is important its in the settings menu...
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Can you elaborate a little on your user experience? Sounds like a faulty phone but please give more info
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For example, I called my wife omw home and she was complaining that she could not understand me because it was too loud and she could hear everything around me but me. When I got home I tested the phone having her calling my from my phone and when she switched to speakerphone I was able to listen the A/C louder than her.
The signal strength is just that, her phone gets 3-4 bar and mine gets 1-2 bars 1bar must of the time.
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For example, I called my wife omw home and she was complaining that she could not understand me because it was too loud and she could hear everything around me but me. When I got home I tested the phone having her calling my from my phone and when she switched to speakerphone I was able to listen the A/C louder than her.
The signal strength is just that, her phone gets 3-4 bar and mine gets 1-2 bars 1bar must of the time.
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From my experience the phone is really good at canceling out background noise. My sister was driving her loud car while talking to me on her S3 and I couldn't even hear it, I used to be able to. I'd see if you could get it replaced.
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No Probs
I have not had any of the problems you are talking about. I would try to find another one and do a side by side.
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From my experience the phone is really good at canceling out background noise. My sister was driving her loud car while talking to me on her S3 and I couldn't even hear it, I used to be able to. I'd see if you could get it replaced.
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Was that using the speakerphone?
If you're not pleased, return it. The signal bars on the 2 devices shouldn't be compared, however, as ICS has a different algorithm of calculating LTE signal bars than versions of Android before it. This was covered at great length when the Verizon Galaxy Nexus first came out.
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my speakerphone sounds pretty crappy too
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If you're not pleased, return it. The signal bars on the 2 devices shouldn't be compared, however, as ICS has a different algorithm of calculating LTE signal bars than versions of Android before it. This was covered at great length when the Verizon Galaxy Nexus first came out.
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I see... so it might be an ics bug? I just drove to my closest tower and that was the only time my phone was full bars as soon I drove away like two blocks away I was already down to 3 bars. Also I did a test side by side with my wife's phone and her phone performed on LTE waaay better than my S3...
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I see... so it might be an ics bug? I just drove to my closest tower and that was the only time my phone was full bars as soon I drove away like two blocks away I was already down to 3 bars. Also I did a test side by side with my wife's phone and her phone performed on LTE waaay better than my S3...
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She's connected to WiFi....
culpin said:
She's connected to WiFi....
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she's not.. I noticed that... even if I disconnect from wifi still show the icon letting me know there is wifi available...
Speakerphone and Headphone quality is horrible, on both ends of the call
Having similar problems here!!!!
Having major problems with speakerphone and headphone use while in a car.
The speakerphone in general doesn't sound very clear. Both ends sound like wind or a fan is blowing right into the microphone. It sounds garbled on both the sending and receiving end of the call. Same issue with headphones.
Basically everyone says it sounds like the windows are down and a wind storm is blowing. Windows are up, and no A/C fan is blowing onto the phone.
Second phone with same problem. Bad batch? Basically impossible to use it in a car. Even when not in a car, the speakerphone quality is not that great.
Any suggestions? Maybe there is a setting that needs to be turned on/off?
anyone else with sound issues?
Wish I could be of help. My GS3's voice/sound quality is easily the best I've had on any smartphone I've owned. You might want to take that in and have the reps compare it against another GS3 or if you know someone else who has the same phone, you could test their device against yours.
Alright know this is unrelated to the OP, but I was wondering about mine too. I just got my second S3 from verizon. My first one had some loose housing on the back and creaked like a loose floorboard every time it was touched. Now the new one they sent me today has a dark spot on the screen. It's not noticeable when there are light colors in that area, but when it's dark it's definitely visible. I remember seeing threads about this a while back but didn't take much time reading them. Is this something I should return it for? Thanks for any help
seems you're not alone in the cell reception issue. There's 2 other threads going about this very issue. One in this sub forum, the other is : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29166050#post29166050 . Call and get a tech support ticket opened. The more people opening tickets the faster we get this issue resolved...lol it'll still be slow as ****, but what can you do?
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Vertig0 said:
she's not.. I noticed that... even if I disconnect from wifi still show the icon letting me know there is wifi available...
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That's a "feature" lol. God I can't wait for the bootloader thing to get cracked so we can get some real ROMs going for this thing. The carriers want you off their network, like 5 minutes ago, and they're willing to do ANYTHING even if it's make your phone automatically connect to random networks against your wishes to get you off their network and on to someone else's. It wouldn't shock me to find out they lower the output on their towers artificially to keep folks in the sticks from getting a signal to force them to provide their own bandwidth the way they try to force us to us WIFI when we pay perfectly good money for our wireless connections.
You can shut off some of the annoying reminders in the auto-connect area...but never all. It's always gonna try to dump you onto WIFI. The carriers hate you using their precious bandwidths you paid for..
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Vertig0 said:
I see... so it might be an ics bug? I just drove to my closest tower and that was the only time my phone was full bars as soon I drove away like two blocks away I was already down to 3 bars. Also I did a test side by side with my wife's phone and her phone performed on LTE waaay better than my S3...
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No you're not imagining it, you can see one of the antennas molded into the plastic under the back cover, at the base of the handset...you know right where the fat of your palm rests when actually using the device in portrait mode. There appears to be another at the top right hand side. Dunno which antenna is what...but I did notice if you keep your hand off the bottom area, my signal goes up some. But when the signal changes so much by moving it a few feet one way or another who can really tell what effects what. Also, my flimsy plastic/silicon type case from verizon appears to knock 5-10 dbm off my signal strength too...great stuff that.
I have noticed this exact same thing.
My mom and sister say that it sounds like there is a lot of wind on the phone when I call them. Particularly on speaker phone but even when not. This is when I am inside or in my relatively quiet car.
I hope VZ doesn't try to f** around with me in the store. I have had nothing but horrendous customer service with this POS company before. I bought an expensive product and I expect it to work as a PHONE.
Hey at least you didn't get the crap shoot I got. I would get little dots all over my letters on the screen pretty often (but not all the time). Couldn't get rid of em no matter what I flashed or reset. Had to bring it back to Verizon and practically shove the thing in the old guy's face to get him to see the dots. He basically refused to return it. I complained to their corporate offices and hopefully that guy got a spanking. Another guy graciously exchanged it for me. I thanked him profusely.