I just called HTC and had them send me out a new battery door. I was having problems with the signals. Have any of you had these same problems? If so have Yall got a replacement from HTC and did it fix the issue?
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nope, haven't had any reception/signal issues at all.
I believe the death-grip affects your wi-fi signal. When I move my phone to landscape mode and hold it as indicated in some videos, momentarily a bar goes down in my wifi signal but nothing like an interuption. It doesn't drop (and reconnect) wifi either.
It seems to be a hit or a miss with these phones
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I believe the death-grip affects your wi-fi signal. When I move my phone to landscape mode and hold it as indicated in some videos, momentarily a bar goes down in my wifi signal but nothing like an interuption. It doesn't drop (and reconnect) wifi either.
It seems to be a hit or a miss with these phones
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This is why I'd really like it if someone who replaces their battery cover could post before and after wifi signal strength from the same location. It is possible that there has been a redesigned battery cover with a better antenna placement.
I only lost 1 signal bar so i think its normal - like other phones
I am currently having a HUGE problem with death grip. So bad that it drops my WiFi calling when im texting in landscape even from about 15 feet from my router. I am going to call HTC tomorrow and request a new back cover just because its a free step I can take to try and fix it.
seems like HTC have a problem with this model
i have to wait 7 days for my Sensation to come from service
then i will see what is the next step... media, solicitor .... we will see
signal its rubish anyway
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I am currently having a HUGE problem with death grip. So bad that it drops my WiFi calling when im texting in landscape even from about 15 feet from my router. I am going to call HTC tomorrow and request a new back cover just because its a free step I can take to try and fix it.
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ok... so after reading your post I decided to test it out. My router is on the 2nd floor in the study. I used landscape mode to send a couple of emails and texts from the first floor and outside my home. The signal dropped a couple of bars each time and recovered. Didn't drop the wifi signal for sure.
I think it is still a problem and HTC needs to get a fix out. Don't know if it will be a f/w or h/w but it needs to be out. I guess if everyone having this issue raises enough hell, HTC may act sooner.
The 4g phones seem to have a different placement of the wifi antenna and does not contain a death grip like problem due to this reposition.
You can higher the wifi signal (battery usage) in the wifi advanced settings.
Doesn´t help anyway?
All sensations will do this. Rooting the phone and installing custom ROM will fix the issue. Before if i placed my hand over the top of the phone, wifi would drop, sometimes even lose signal entirely. Now after root and ROM, it doesn't even drop one bit.
I was about to return my phone due to this issue, i am glad I waited a bit.
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All sensations will do this. Rooting the phone and installing custom ROM will fix the issue. Before if i placed my hand over the top of the phone, wifi would drop, sometimes even lose signal entirely. Now after root and ROM, it doesn't even drop one bit.
I was about to return my phone due to this issue, i am glad I waited a bit.
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My phone is rooted (s-off) with all bloatware removed. Its still on stock ROM though.
Since we have S-OFF now, the custom ROM's for sensation have started to flow. Just waiting on those ROM's to be stable before deciding on which one to use.
BTW which ROM are you using!!!
Changing the back cover will make no difference. I got a replacement and saw no difference at all.
When I would go into landscape I would lose 1-2 wifi bars, but after I flashed Android Revolution 1.1.6 and kept the stock radio I started only losing 1 bar if any at all.
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My phone is rooted (s-off) with all bloatware removed. Its still on stock ROM though.
Since we have S-OFF now, the custom ROM's for sensation have started to flow. Just waiting on those ROM's to be stable before deciding on which one to use.
BTW which ROM are you using!!!
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I am using:
InsertCoin Sense Android 2.3.4 STABLE 1.2
I have tried them all. This one is by far the best for everyday use.
Everyone complaining about death grip. It's there on all phones, it will go away with a root and custom ROM.
I haven't experienced this at all. compared to my buddies iphone 4 where there is a serious death grip problem any drop in signal on my sensation is moot.
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This is why I'd really like it if someone who replaces their battery cover could post before and after wifi signal strength from the same location. It is possible that there has been a redesigned battery cover with a better antenna placement.
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I've heard that it does, but I'm still waiting on mine to arrive. We have FAR FAR lower signal strength with this phone than with our other phones (motorola cliq / mytouch 4g's)
I just checked and I'm on zero bars right now. I usually have 4 bars right here with my other phone. It's rediculous. Holding the phone reduces my signal strength by ~40-50%. It can completely lose signal, right under a tower (in visual range) if you hold your hand flat against the back.
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I only lost 1 signal bar so i think its normal - like other phones
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For many people, this is not the case. I know there are different revisions for the back cover. I think it is due to that.
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I am using:
InsertCoin Sense Android 2.3.4 STABLE 1.2
I have tried them all. This one is by far the best for everyday use.
Everyone complaining about death grip. It's there on all phones, it will go away with a root and custom ROM.
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Glad this is the case for you. It is not for me.
chisleu said:
I've heard that it does, but I'm still waiting on mine to arrive. We have FAR FAR lower signal strength with this phone than with our other phones (motorola cliq / mytouch 4g's)
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Did your wifi situation improve after u got the new cover? my device sucks.. it drops all the way down to zero.. thinking of getting the g2x instead
Signal is good when phone is turned to 2G only, so this appears to be a firmw-/software issue rather than a battery-cover issue.
I had the same problem when i first recieved the devie but as you say custom rom sorted that
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I've got a brand new Desire S and I love it. Fast, smooth, responsive. Battery life (OK, over my total 2 days of ownership only!) has been brilliant - 9% drop overnight for example.
I'm about to return it.
Why? Because of one thing that makes it almost unusable.
I am, of course, referring to the "Grip of Death" - as per the iPhone 4.
There are a few oblique references to this on the net, but I can't find any detailed posts.
Some mention has been made about this only being a WiFi issue, and it is true that WiFi is badly affected. However I also see 3G signal drops when I hold the phone in portrait mode with my hand wrapping around the base (as most people would in normal "phone" use) - which is, of course, where the antenna is (incorporated into the battery cover)
The WiFi drops on mine are tragic - I can be 3 metres from an access point and if you hold the phone incorrectly (!) the WiFi signal drops out completely and you are on 3G data. Even if directly under the AP you can easily get the signal indicator to drop from full to under 50%.
However the 3G drops are also bad. In my flat, which has a good signal, I can get to one or zero bars of 3G signal just by picking up the phone.
So I have a phone that is unreliable in picking up calls, switches to 3G data when there is a perfectly good AP just nearby, and is basically, generally unreliable.
It's a shame because, apart from this, it's a brilliant little device.
Am I the only one affected this badly? Maybe I have a poor example?
I have a case arriving today to see if it will help. Otherwise it's back to the shop!
hmm..you are the first person to report a drop in 3g signal
can any one else confirm this?
or is it just that the OP got a defective unit?
(i am unable to test as i still dont have my device yet )
I'm wondering if only certain phones are affected. Engadget doesn't mention it and this review specifically says it isn't a problem. It is a mixed bag of responses from posters here. Is it possible that Techradar got an early review model and the problem has since been fixed? You think HTC would comment one way or another since this could affect sales.
Just tried it on my DS, but the death grip does not influence my 3G signal.
With wifi on, I manage to lose only a little bit of signal while holding it in such an unnatural way that it will never occur using it normally.
TheUndutchable said:
Just tried it on my DS, but the death grip does not influence my 3G signal.
With wifi on, I manage to lose only a little bit of signal while holding it in such an unnatural way that it will never occur using it normally.
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can you try covering the back of your device as much as you can with your hands & test the wifi & 3g signal?
it would be very helpful for us
Covered the back as much as I could, no problems with 3G, Wifi drops to zero...
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Covered the back as much as I could, no problems with 3G, Wifi drops to zero...
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i am relived that there is no 3g signal drop
the wifi part is a bit depressing but i can manage without wifi...(but hope they fix it somehow)
@JonathonDesmond i think you got a defective unit try returning it for a new piece
& also tell us if the case helped
kartkk said:
i am relived that there is no 3g signal drop
the wifi part is a bit depressing but i can manage without wifi...(but hope they fix it somehow)
You will never hold the phone like I did when using the phone normally. I pressed some buttons with my nose
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You will never hold the phone like I did when using the phone normally. I pressed some buttons with my nose
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lol
but i hope htc does something like give replacement battery covers which fix the issue..because that is the only hardware defect that people are exaggerating about..
Ok, a few tests, as long as I still have it:
Portrait mode:
No issues in normal one- or two-handed operation.
As soon as something, e. g. my hand, covers the top plastic part at the back the wifi signal goes from all bars down to the dot, or disconnects entirely. I'm not so sure about the mobile signal, some of the time it drops to about half the bars it's had before, but with a considerable delay, and it's a bit erratic at the best of times, so it might just as well be other (environmental) causes.
Landscape:
I really only do this two-handed, with the left hand holding the phone, fingers bunched behind it, thumb in front, covering the HTC logo and first few mm of the screen; the right hand operates and/or stabilizes the phone.
This instantly kills the wifi stone cold dead. 3G actually stayed the same or got better(!)
To sum up: wifi is badly affected to the point of uselessness, 3G doesn't seem to be.
hmm..
can you try the wifi again in landscape? this time without touching the aluminum part of the phone?
(dont cover the aluminum part with your hand or any other item)
kartkk said:
can you try the wifi again in landscape? this time without touching the aluminum part of the phone?
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Actually, I don't see how that would be possible? Covering the top plastic part without covering anything else, I mean. I tried a few contortions and nearly dropped it.
Care to elaborate?
it is a bit tricky i know (dont drop your phone trying lol)
how about putting on top of two books?(such that the books only touch the plastic )
i just want to know if it is the metal chassis which is causing this problem
Good thinking!
Desire S propped up on two stacks of books so that nothing touches the alu parts: all bars. (It did drop one bar from time to time, but that's just normal fluctuations, whereas putting it down on a desk or something reliably takes it down a notch.)
please people contact htc
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please people contact htc
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Why? We arent't their QA department and I've no hopes of getting more than ... err ... yes, "You're holding it wrong." in soothing customer rep speak. Raising awareness of the issue is the best one can do, IMHO - once the tech mainstream press picks this up there's at least a chance of a fix. (That is, if one is actually possible, it might be a concession to the design.)
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Why? We arent't their QA department and I've no hopes of getting more than ... err ... yes, "You're holding it wrong." in soothing customer rep speak. Raising awareness of the issue is the best one can do, IMHO - once the tech mainstream press picks this up there's at least a chance of a fix. (That is, if one is actually possible, it might be a concession to the design.)
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i'm in contact whit the HTC Dutch support desk. After a view mails whit the 1st line of support they send me to the technical support.
It looks like that they are doing there job.
i tried and tried and tried again... i couldnt find any sings of the grip of death!!
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Good thinking!
Desire S propped up on two stacks of books so that nothing touches the alu parts: all bars. (It did drop one bar from time to time, but that's just normal fluctuations, whereas putting it down on a desk or something reliably takes it down a notch.)
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just as i thought it is the metal chasis....
i have heard that wifi has problems passing through metal...
if this really is the reason then i think nothing much can be done ...
can someone else also verify this?
just got phone and wifi definitely drops when held landscape
HI
Been playing around with my Sensation.
What i noticed while sitting in my front room. GRound floor, i have 2-4 bars with the phone on the table.
0-1 bars when deathgripped even 2 bars if im lucky bars BUT WHEN IM ON A CALL. i rang the normal o2 top up line
DEATHGRIPPED IN MY LAP. from 1 bar it jumped to 4 bars and idling between 3-4 bars, no matter how i deathgrip it, it wont go lower than 2 while on a call if i deathgrip it really HARD????
so normal 3-4 bars,
deathgripped 0-2 bars
ring a number deathgripped 3-4 bars or possibly 2
could this be a software issue?
anyone else confirm this asap please
ikhzter said:
HI
Been playing around with my Sensation.
What i noticed while sitting in my front room. GRound floor, i have 2-4 bars with the phone on the table.
0-1 bars when deathgripped even 2 bars if im lucky bars BUT WHEN IM ON A CALL. i rang the normal o2 top up line
DEATHGRIPPED IN MY LAP. from 1 bar it jumped to 4 bars and idling between 3-4 bars, no matter how i deathgrip it, it wont go lower than 2 while on a call if i deathgrip it really HARD????
so normal 3-4 bars,
deathgripped 0-2 bars
ring a number deathgripped 3-4 bars or possibly 2
could this be a software issue?
anyone else confirm this asap please
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That's w.e.i.r.d.
The call doesn't drop I suppose? Maybe it's because it's emitting a more powerfull signal while on a call and the deathgrip doesn't affect it. It's very confusing though...
giorgisp said:
That's w.e.i.r.d.
The call doesn't drop I suppose? Maybe it's because it's emitting a more powerfull signal while on a call and the deathgrip doesn't affect it. It's very confusing though...
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CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TRY THIS. THIS NEEDS TO BE VERIFIED WITH MORE SENSATIONS.
IF WE CAN THEN WE KNOW ITS SOFTWARE ISSUE, im thinking of even posting a video of it.
Deathgrip it hard and i lose al my bars even or down to 1 while not on a call,
but while on a call its 3-4 bars, deathgripped hard its 2 otherwise 3-4
NO WAY, DEATHGRIPPED AT 1 bar. PRESSED CALL, after 15 seconds it jumped to 4 bar in the same position
Simple. On standby it doesn't use as much power to keep signal up as it does when you talk. Why do you think mA usage increases when you talk on the phone?
This is normal. In sby, phone doesn't need perfect signal, it just needs some signal to receive incoming calls, sms, data, then it wakes up and upps the power used for connection with mast/s, so you have good quality connection.
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Simple. On standby it doesn't use as much power to keep signal up as it does when you talk. Why do you think mA usage increases when you talk on the phone?
This is normal. In sby, phone doesn't need perfect signal, it just needs some signal to receive incoming calls, sms, data, then it wakes up and upps the power used for connection with mast/s, so you have good quality connection.
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oh lol i thought i made an astounding discovery, never mind. lol
still getting ri of it and going back to my DHD
ikhzter said:
oh lol i thought i made an astounding discovery, never mind. lol
still getting ri of it and going back to my DHD
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Why do you wanna do that? Isn't Sensation better than DHD?
Figure_desire said:
Why do you wanna do that? Isn't Sensation better than DHD?
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Im in two minds at the moment, i have no idea what to do. sensation is better, dhd is similiar in signal, also hold it flat landscape it too drops wifi. now that i have noticed, but sensation signal is pretty noticable as it is easily deathgripped due to its shape, so im not sure whether to keep it or not with these deathgrip issues
i absolutely love it but the deathgrip is letting it down
dont like sgs2, its ugly and also quite a few issues on it too.
ikhzter said:
Im in two minds at the moment, i have no idea what to do. sensation is better, dhd is similiar in signal, also hold it flat landscape it too drops wifi. now that i have noticed, but sensation signal is pretty noticable as it is easily deathgripped due to its shape, so im not sure whether to keep it or not with these deathgrip issues
i absolutely love it but the deathgrip is letting it down
dont like sgs2, its ugly and also quite a few issues on it too.
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I haven't seen any phone with no issue. If that makes a problem of course you should give it back or think about replace. Because there are people saying that there is no issue at all.
Figure_desire said:
I haven't seen any phone with no issue. If that makes a problem of course you should give it back or think about replace. Because there are people saying that there is no issue at all.
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I have. My Desire once it had motherboard replaced. BEST phone i ever had, better than sensation, even stock.
But i'm a geek, i want/need new, and sensations dual core is fair bit more future proof than Desire. Can't wait to see what can be done with it once bootloader is unlocked.
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I haven't seen any phone with no issue. If that makes a problem of course you should give it back or think about replace. Because there are people saying that there is no issue at all.
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HTC offered to take it in under warranty, repair or refurbish it for me ?
should i let them?
ikhzter said:
HTC offered to take it in under warranty, repair or refurbish it for me ?
should i let them?
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If you have NO other problems, i wouldn't. It's design issue, so repair, another phone won't fix it. But it's up to you if you want to give it a go.
tinky1 said:
I have. My Desire once it had motherboard replaced. BEST phone i ever had, better than sensation, even stock.
But i'm a geek, i want/need new, and sensations dual core is fair bit more future proof than Desire. Can't wait to see what can be done with it once bootloader is unlocked.
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I had Desire too. I loved it. But it has problems too. Its display couldn't see even a bit under sunlight. It had dual touch not real multitouch. etc. That's the way how they sell newe phones.
ikhzter said:
HTC offered to take it in under warranty, repair or refurbish it for me ?
should i let them?
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If you think you can't live wthout Sensation you should try it. But keep in mind that might not help either.
Figure_desire said:
I had Desire too. I loved it. But it has problems too. Its display couldn't see under sunlight. It had dual touch not real multitouch. etc. That's the way how they sell newe phones.
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I see these as shortcomings, not a fault tbh. There is always better technology out there, no matter how new your device is.
tinky1 said:
I see these as shortcomings, not a fault tbh. There is always better technology out there, no matter how new your device is.
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Agree and in addition to that I see this deathgrip issue as shortcoming too. Better or worse all phones have that.
This is a simple powersaving issue. The amplifier for the phone antenna does not to run at full tilt when it's idling in passive mode. Think of it like CPU scaling.
Figure_desire said:
That might be a good explanation.
Also we all know that phones consume more power when there isn't enough signal from base station. So we can say phones are able to set this according to situation.
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lol i feel sheepish now, so basically there is no software issue at all , we just have to live with this,
the dhd fared better though because it was bulkier it spread out in our hands, so itwasnt deathgripped often
The term death grip is incorrect not mstter how youbhold it the signal does not die it just loses power so atcually it is more a choke grip then death
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But on certain position it drops wifi and bluetooth?
mt4g royal ginger v2.1
Gregory.u317 said:
But on certain position it drops wifi and bluetooth?
mt4g royal ginger v2.1
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Yes and no. If you only have one bar for wifi, and then grip it tight, then yes, signal will drop, if you have a few bars, signal will just become worse, but you won't lose it completely.
Does anyone think software update, custom roms, new radios, or kernals will be able to cure deathgrip to an extent where the level is acceptable.
my sensation wifi deathgrip doesnt bother me much, its the deathgrip for the antenna, i just hold it naturally and it drops from 3 4 bars to 0-2 bars.
also unknowingly i have dropped a call twice
ikhzter said:
Does anyone think software update, custom roms, new radios, or kernals will be able to cure deathgrip to an extent where the level is acceptable.
my sensation wifi deathgrip doesnt bother me much, its the deathgrip for the antenna, i just hold it naturally and it drops from 3 4 bars to 0-2 bars.
also unknowingly i have dropped a call twice
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Its the design of the case. Take the back case off and its even worse.
lightforce said:
Its the design of the case. Take the back case off and its even worse.
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yeh i know, i dont like it, wifi isnt an issue for me i can cope with holding it, but i feel the network signal isnt as good as it should be, i have had two calls drop unknowingly, not sure if it was sensations fault or not, but compared to my dhd im always one or two bars down, sometimes none while my dhd does have signal
This only causes an issue if you have a very weak signal, it really isn't worth worrying about, none of the top end Android phones (or iPhone for that matter) are good to have if you're in bad signal areas.
Calls shouldn't drop either, as more power is sent to the antenna when you're on a call. The severity of it seems to vary between the phones at the moment.
there are already 2 threads discussing the issue, why make another one?
xnifex said:
there are already 2 threads discussing the issue, why make another one?
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think software update, custom roms, new radios, or kernals will be able to cure deathgrip to an extent where the level is acceptable.
whether there is a chance these could improve it a little bit.
Not sure why but I'm feeling like beta tester of HTC Sensation.
I think everyone have problem with deathgrip its only depends how you holding the phone.
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joshua3m said:
Not sure why but I'm feeling like beta tester of HTC Sensation.
I think everyone have problem with deathgrip its only depends how you holding the phone.
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I disagree. I've tried holding the phone flat, smothering it, normally, I can't see a significant problem here. The signal (mobile or wifi) only drops if it is very weak to begin with, most phones have this problem.
It doesn't seem particularly potent to me at all.
Robboftw said:
I disagree. I've tried holding the phone flat, smothering it, normally, I can't see a significant problem here. The signal (mobile or wifi) only drops if it is very weak to begin with, most phones have this problem.
It doesn't seem particularly potent to me at all.
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I have no issues either.
I find that since I haven't viewed an example of said death grip, I haven't performed it. Once I see how it's done, it'll bug the never ending ****e out of me.
Out of sight out of mind.
im coming from a nexus s , now that had wifi signal problems.. this phone is hella better
Profondo_Rosso said:
I have no issues either.
I find that since I haven't viewed an example of said death grip, I haven't performed it. Once I see how it's done, it'll bug the never ending ****e out of me.
Out of sight out of mind.
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It wouldn't matter anyway as if you aren't having issues now you won't have issues while trying to perform it.
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It wouldn't matter anyway as if you aren't having issues now you won't have issues while trying to perform it.
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cool i dont know why im letting it getting to me, i mean having one or 2 network bars isnt bad???
ikhzter said:
cool i dont know why im letting it getting to me, i mean having one or 2 network bars isnt bad???
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If your post is being sarcastic, then I advise you that you probably have a weak signal, and therefore you are experiencing other problems.
If you have a really strong signal with another phone and then lose it by doing the 'death grip' on your Sensation, your antenna is probably faulty.
I don't have any issues with my sensation ay all.
Could someone please try this. death gripped my antenna until I had no network signal. 0 bars
Made a cal with zero bars to the 02 pay and go top up line and to my other phone. Cal went through fine with 0 bars showing for network signal while deathgripped.
I can still make a clear cal while death gripping my network signal to zero bars.
Anyone else confirm this
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Since I can't find any recent posts about the wifi death grip issue which many Desire S users seem to have, I'd like to start a poll to see how bad the issue really is and what could be possible causes.
Please fill in the poll. It would also help to post your specs together with your answer to see if the phones with death grip all have something in common.
Something like:
HBoot
Rom
Kernel
Radio
Date of purchase (If you still have/know it)
Simlock yes/no -- If yes, brand
Color (Grey or black)
Also, please keep in mind that you have to be a few meters away from your modem to properly test if you really have the death grip.
Thanks!
date of purchase 3 months back
brought the device for full price
black
the rest is in my sig
i have tried all rom/kernel/radio combos ,but its still there
the latest radio makes the problem a lot less intense than before
also people say they face problems with g routers,those who use n routers don't seem to have this problem(i am unable to verify this as i only have a g router)
so can someone test with a n router & the radio im using?
kartkk said:
date of purchase 3 months back
brought the device for full price
black
the rest is in my sig
i have tried all rom/kernel/radio combos ,but its still there
the latest radio makes the problem a lot less intense than before
also people say they face problems with g routers,those who use n routers don't seem to have this problem(i am unable to verify this as i only have a g router)
so can someone test with a n router & the radio im using?
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Edit:I just found out that one of my routers is an N-router. However, the wifi death grip was still there and did not decrease at all D:
Thanks for the info!
Also, how is it possible that 100+ people have viewed, but only 4 filled in the poll? Please fill in the poll if you view. It only takes 10 seconds or less.
Thanks!
have the problem on my phone.
Check signature for details
I bought my phone a month ago. It was shipped S-off so I rooted it. Stock ROM, black.
I have experimented with the deathgrip multiple times in various locations, the result is always the same.
As soon as I cover the back panel with my palm, WiFi strength drops by exactly 2 bars. As an example, the connection is excellent and I have 3 bars but as soon as I cover the back panel with my hand the signal drops down to 1 bar. If I've got a good connection with 2 bars then doing this results in a lost connection of 0 bars. It works like clockwork, doesn't matter where I am or which WiFi I use.
There definitely is a deathgrip issue, what bothers me the most is that this happens quite often when I'm using the phone in landscape mode, like texting or playing something via WiFi.
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I didn't even know there was a wifi death grip for the Desire S, I've been using it for 2 months now and did not seem like an inconvenience for me.
When I hold the phone near the top, covering the back with my hand the wifi drops- I find this really annoying as it limits to how I can hold the phone..
i also have it. its annoying.
I never completely lose wifi and I never seem to notice a loss in speed but the signal indicator always goes right down.
Hi all,
Over on the international One X forum, we have a lot of people confirming a serious hardware fault where the wifi contact pins fail to connect to the antenna.
I am curious if this fault affects your s4 at&t version of the phone too.
There is a simple squeeze test you can do to check for the fault.
See the link here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1688538
Fingers crossed your not affected by it.
Oliver
*EDIT* HTC have confirmed the issue only affects the international HOX and the feedback this thread received seems to prove them correct. Great news. *EDIT-END*
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This applies to the AT&T and Rogers One X. If your phone has signal gain when you press on the wifi antenna area of the case, it's defective and will eventually lose connection completely over time, so get it replaced on warranty.
That's not what he was saying, he was just wondering if we had the issue. I can't get mine to drop below full signal with.WiFi, unless I go for a walk outside. So it isn't effexting my phone.
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Hunt3r.j2 said:
This applies to the AT&T and Rogers One X. If your phone has signal gain when you press on the wifi antenna area of the case, it's defective and will eventually lose connection completely over time, so get it replaced on warranty.
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So this fault does applie to the at & t Rogers version? Yes if anyone does suffer this fault, get it replaced or repaired.
Have you been affected by the issue?
Cheers for your feedback
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Thus far I cannot replicate this on my phone. Will test further later.
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my question is, how do we know when our phones will start acting up? Even if we exchange the phone, then there's still the likelihood that the new phone'd also have problems. Unless, HTC already has made some design changes to the newly imported batch (doubt it)
p/s: I have also not seen wifi issues with my phone. But I'll give it some more observations. Then again, I exchanged a HOX before because it couldn't keep a constant signal. So who knows..
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my question is, how do we know when our phones will start acting up? Even if we exchange the phone, then there's still the likelihood that the new phone'd also have problems. Unless, HTC already has made some design changes to the newly imported batch (doubt it)
p/s: I have also not seen wifi issues with my phone. But I'll give it some more observations. Then again, I exchanged a HOX before because it couldn't keep a constant signal. So who knows..
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It may not affect s4 versions at all, it is currently confirmed to affect the international version of the One X, I want to see if other phones are affected too.
The mostly likely causes of the problem are 1. Overheating and 2. The wifi connection pins getting squashed flat whilst your phone is in your pocket.
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ws2112 said:
my question is, how do we know when our phones will start acting up? Even if we exchange the phone, then there's still the likelihood that the new phone'd also have problems. Unless, HTC already has made some design changes to the newly imported batch (doubt it)
p/s: I have also not seen wifi issues with my phone. But I'll give it some more observations. Then again, I exchanged a HOX before because it couldn't keep a constant signal. So who knows..
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If reception is poor and improves when you push the case where wifi antennas are placed, you have a defective unit and you should get a replacement immediately.
damn i just sent my phone in for repairs because of a camera issue. i was experiencing the wifi signal drop prior to sending it in, but thinking it was a software problem. now, when i get my phone back ill most likely have to send it in again for repairs.
I believe our phones have the sam issue, when I press down I believe I do have an increased signal. Thanks for the heads up :/
-duf
It did increase my signal as well. It was struggling to connect where gnex used to have no problems and this corrected it.
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I was having the same problem with my ATT HTC One X.
I couldn't connect in places where my iPhone had 2 (out of 3) bars of wifi.
Unfortunately, it was a big enough deal to send the phone back. I thought they all did this.
If I don't have best wifi performance enabled my wifi is very flaky. It'll lose connection when it has full bars. But with best wifi on it can get about what I can get with my gsii (slightly worse)
Ugh... This isn't a thread about whether the phone has flakey WiFi, it's about whether you can make your WiFi signal change if you squeeze the phone.
For what its worth, mine doesn't seem to change if I lightly squeeze it. I dont really feel like pressing it hard enough to f up the screen though, so maybe you'll have different results...
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ECEXCURSION said:
Ugh... This isn't a thread about whether the phone has flakey WiFi, it's about whether you can make your WiFi signal change if you squeeze the phone.
For what its worth, mine doesn't seem to change if I lightly squeeze it. I dont really feel like pressing it hard enough to f up the screen though, so maybe you'll have different results...
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You don't have the fault then, if you had it you'd get 0-1 bars only around 8 meters away from your router with no walls between, whilst other phones enjoy full bars at that distance. Light squeeze the antenna part of the phone and the reception indicates full bars.
This fault affects bluetooth and battery performance too. It is really bad for anyone who has it. I'm glad you don't have it, but please, Don't make out that this is normal behaviour when squeezed.
My other thread has had 15000 views 200 comments. 7 different YouTube videos from 6 different members of xda forums, 7 self repair guides by 7 of our members taking their phones apart (all confirming it fixed their wifi) and countless people returning their phones for repair.
I only started the thread on 4 days ago. The popularity of the thread indicates what a serious issue it is on the international One X. If your s4 One X's don't suffer the issue or not as bad, it might give us a clue to what is wrong with ours.
Send from my old trusty Desire, untill I get my poorly One X back.
My phone was shipped to HTC for repair a week ago before I knew of this issue. When I saw this thread it made complete sense. My glass in one corner was separated from the actual device enough that light from the screen escaped out of it. I had absolutely no wifi. Still waiting to hear what HTC says. They received the phone a couple days ago. I'll report back on what they say about this.
Does anyone know if the new batch is any better?
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I just bought mine yesterday and it seems to have pretty good wifi reception. It can detect almost every network in range that my laptop detects but shows a weaker signal for them. Connects to my own wifi with full bars when close and loses a connection in the same area of the house that my galaxy note did. So I'd have to say the new batch have no wifi issues that I'm aware of.
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I just bought mine yesterday and it seems to have pretty good wifi reception. It can detect almost every network in range that my laptop detects but shows a weaker signal for them. Connects to my own wifi with full bars when close and loses a connection in the same area of the house that my galaxy note did. So I'd have to say the new batch have no wifi issues that I'm aware of.
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Is this with best wifi performance enabled or disable?
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Is this with best wifi performance enabled or disable?
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Had to give you a thanks, I didn't even know there was a best wifi option! I just checked the wifi setings and it's off. So this is my normal signal strength. I just checked best wifi and one of the signals it picked up was stronger. Mine is a full signal so I can't tell the difference. My daughter's room is the worst reception but it's 1:30AM so I won't test it on best right now.