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Ok guys, it was a good run... a week run. I don't mind this tablet, I tried TNT 2.2 and ZPAD. I liked them both, TNT a little more.
-This tablet has AMAZING potential, and awesome hardware such as the processor. Software out of the BOX is again like everyone says: HORRIBLE.
Overall build quality is pretty good, not considering the little creeks you get holding the center of the back.
-The official thing that ticked me off to return this tablet was.....wait for it............ LCD Display and viewing angles. Im sorry but it seems like its from the Early 2000's not a display we would see in many electronics Now a days.
-Another deciding factor for me is the touch sensitivity, didn't do it for me. Not as sensitive as I would like.
-Non-illuminated keys, hard to use at night, keys get pressed easily at night.
So after thinking if i should wait for iPAD2, since the rumors are racing; or get Galaxy Tab,
Ive decided to get the Galaxy Tab - I got a brand NEW Galaxy Tab(Sprint) on Ebay for $500 - White backing, Sealed BRAND NEW In BOX. No contract.
I'll be turning the Data OFF and using it as WiFi only, It wont be linked to Sprint, I will NOT activate the 3g.
I got to check the device out, and its extremely portable, its nice. 7 Inch isnt THAT bad at all.
Any comments?
Sorry to see you go. Enjoy your new tablet!
I see these goodbye posts all the time in all the forums I've been a part of. And "sorry" is almost in each post?At the end you just need to be happy with your product. Personally I am not replacing this tablet for anything that's out right now because of the dual core tegra 2 processor. My next tablet is going to be another T2 but definitely a better screen and hopefully a gig of RAM. I don't care if its a 10 or 7 inch tablet because both are practically the same in reference to portability since I can't fit them in my pocket.
Honestly, the only goodbye post that I am looking out for is Roebeets, Rothnic, Bekit, or any other devs. But I figured i'd chime in because I don't think anyone should be sorry for moving on to a different device....unless you were getting a cruz tablet then it would be flame city for you. Jk
I'm sure you'll enjoy ur galaxy tab because its a nice device.
Not gonna disagree with any of your complaints, and if it is not right for you, then get the one you want.
Personally I don't mind the screen, since it is only for me, and I just hold it at the right angle. The non-illuminated buttons are a bit of a silly oversight (and I would much prefer real buttons to those capacitive ones) but I don't mind so much since it has on-screen soft-buttons.
I like it because it is well powered (battery and processor), inexpensive, and has a large display.
Most importantly is that it is easily modifiable. If it wasn't it would have gone right back. It nearly did anyway because I was falsely told by Sears' website that it was a viewpad 10. Since roebeet, rothnic, omiji (? sorry can't remember), and all the others I cannot name have made this device software so good I see awesome potential beyond the great tablet it has already become.
So VS owes XDA and it's senior modders a lot since without them probably all of us would have returned the POS that VS put on the shelves.
In summation Thank You to the XDA team working on the G tab, and if anyone else is thinking about returning this product consider this before you do so, because Samsung, Apple, or any other manufacturer will not give the type of updates and support you can get here from an open device like this, from a place like XDA.
And to the OP, I hope you enjoy your Galaxy better, I have a Captivate and I like it. I am sure if you want a good experience out of the box like what I have in my Captivate, you will be very happy with it.
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In summation Thank You to the XDA team working on the G tab, and if anyone else is thinking about returning this product consider this before you do so, because Samsung, Apple, or any other manufacturer will not give the type of updates and support you can get here from an open device like this, from a place like XDA.
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Definetly +1
I could not of said it better myself.
The notionink adam goes on preorder later today also for $400-500. I'd suggest looking into that tablet also.
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Ok guys, it was a good run... a week run. I don't mind this tablet, I tried TNT 2.2 and ZPAD. I liked them both, TNT a little more.
-This tablet has AMAZING potential, and awesome hardware such as the processor. Software out of the BOX is again like everyone says: HORRIBLE.
Overall build quality is pretty good, not considering the little creeks you get holding the center of the back.
-The official thing that ticked me off to return this tablet was.....wait for it............ LCD Display and viewing angles. Im sorry but it seems like its from the Early 2000's not a display we would see in many electronics Now a days.
-Another deciding factor for me is the touch sensitivity, didn't do it for me. Not as sensitive as I would like.
-Non-illuminated keys, hard to use at night, keys get pressed easily at night.
So after thinking if i should wait for iPAD2, since the rumors are racing; or get Galaxy Tab,
Ive decided to get the Galaxy Tab - I got a brand NEW Galaxy Tab(Sprint) on Ebay for $500 - White backing, Sealed BRAND NEW In BOX. No contract.
I'll be turning the Data OFF and using it as WiFi only, It wont be linked to Sprint, I will NOT activate the 3g.
I got to check the device out, and its extremely portable, its nice. 7 Inch isnt THAT bad at all.
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Shouldn't be too bad, and at the price that Samsung is hawking these for they should support it for a while and better than any other currently shipping Android tablet.
7": yeah, I'm missing that form factor ALOT myself, but I just can't bring myself to give up Tegra2 for something lesser even for a better(IMNHO) form factor(7") nor a better screen(awful gTab viewing angles).
I'm keeping my gTab(actually I'm stuck now anyways past my 14d Staples return) and evaluating 7" complementary(to gTab) tablets, of which(ATM) Nook Color is looking nice w/IPS screen and a8 CPU plus now rooted. Just need to get over to a B&N and try out a demo unit... (want to see how overall system and browser fare speedwise @800MHz on an a8...)
Might just wait out until next year and see if anyone coughs up a 7" Tegra2 or one of the other SoC companies cough up their dual core a9 SoCs and they get in a 7"...
Notion Ink: They sound nice, but since they're a new/small tablet only company I'm waiting to see if they survive to release their 2nd tablet, hopefully Tegra3 based...
OP should avoid the 101 then, since mega gimped device.
Probably best to wait until March. There should be 2.3 or higher Tegra 2 tablets all over the place by then.
Maybe a very stable out of box 2.3 Gtablet by then too..... Maybe at least.
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The notionink adam goes on preorder later today also for $400-500. I'd suggest looking into that tablet also.
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$375 only!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/09/notion-ink-adam-pre-order-to-begin-today-pricing-starts-at-375/
I have been refreshing the NI site for days ready to buy Adam but when I got up to bat I couldn't pull the trigger.
$375 is with a standard LCD - not PixelQI. PQ is $499 w/ Wifi or $550 w/ 3G
Shipping is $50 - the thing comes straight from factory in India.
However, a few things made me hesitate on the device I have waited a year on.
- you must also pay 'customs' but nothing states what this fee is
- shipping is $50 through DHL which is not insured
- ccavenue is processing orders and they do not take MC
- you are billed in full as soon as you place order while estimated ship date is 6-8
- given no further manufacturing delays and that shipping is quick 6-8 weeks is a long wait
- specs list "8+ GB Flash"...so is that 8GB or what?
- crazy amount of return conditions the least of which is getting RMA 7 no later than 7 days after shipment (probably take longer than that for DHL to get it to you) and a 20% restocking fee for 'open' items (that's $100 + return shipping)
- no mention of 'bad pixel' policy
So while I am in love with this thing and will be so jealous for those brave enough to order site unseen (not even a hands on or real photo on website) I am just not that brave.
Now the question is....do I open my gTablet and play with it until round 2 or do I look at something maybe a little bit pricier but with a better display?
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I have been refreshing the NI site for days ready to buy Adam but when I got up to bat I couldn't pull the trigger.
$375 is with a standard LCD - not PixelQI. PQ is $499 w/ Wifi or $550 w/ 3G
Shipping is $50 - the thing comes straight from factory in India.
However, a few things made me hesitate on the device I have waited a year on.
- you must also pay 'customs' but nothing states what this fee is
- shipping is $50 through DHL which is not insured
- ccavenue is processing orders and they do not take MC
- you are billed in full as soon as you place order while estimated ship date is 6-8
- given no further manufacturing delays and that shipping is quick 6-8 weeks is a long wait
- specs list "8+ GB Flash"...so is that 8GB or what?
- crazy amount of return conditions the least of which is getting RMA 7 no later than 7 days after shipment (probably take longer than that for DHL to get it to you) and a 20% restocking fee for 'open' items (that's $100 + return shipping)
- no mention of 'bad pixel' policy
So while I am in love with this thing and will be so jealous for those brave enough to order site unseen (not even a hands on or real photo on website) I am just not that brave.
Now the question is....do I open my gTablet and play with it until round 2 or do I look at something maybe a little bit pricier but with a better display?
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Yep they're already out of money...
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Yep they're already out of money...
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For those that are wanting but not ordered an Adam - the Pixel QI versions are already sold out. All they have left now is the LCD version.
Since I couldn't pull the trigger on the Adam I guess the only thing standing between me unboxing my g tablet is questions of the viewing angles. Since my wife picked this up from the store I have not seen it in person. Is it really a deal breaker? What is Office Depot return policy on open products - I know during the holidays returns are extended until Jan 8 but not sure if that mean sealed in the box or not? I imagine I could just go and return it Dec 26 if it is that bad....stores are usually so crazy that day they ask few questions about returns.
Oh, and about Notion Ink. They updated their blog explaining some of the conditions (such as $50 shipping) and it is a little more comforting. I never doubted they were a good, honest company. I think my issue is that they are biting off more than they can chew.
Building a fantastic product in a lab is one thing - seeing a new product introduction through the entire manufacturing process is something completely different and that is where I am not sure of NI's experience. While the prospect of waiting sux, I think I am more comfortable doing so than jumping in on the first run.
It is not a question of NI taking care of me if there is an issues, it is a question of when. I am still jealous of all those who did place the order and will kick myself the day everyone starts posting their unboxing videos :-(
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For those that are wanting but not ordered an Adam - the Pixel QI versions are already sold out. All they have left now is the LCD version.
Since I couldn't pull the trigger on the Adam I guess the only thing standing between me unboxing my g tablet is questions of the viewing angles. Since my wife picked this up from the store I have not seen it in person. Is it really a deal breaker? What is Office Depot return policy on open products - I know during the holidays returns are extended until Jan 8 but not sure if that mean sealed in the box or not? I imagine I could just go and return it Dec 26 if it is that bad....stores are usually so crazy that day they ask few questions about returns.
Oh, and about Notion Ink. They updated their blog explaining some of the conditions (such as $50 shipping) and it is a little more comforting. I never doubted they were a good, honest company. I think my issue is that they are biting off more than they can chew.
Building a fantastic product in a lab is one thing - seeing a new product introduction through the entire manufacturing process is something completely different and that is where I am not sure of NI's experience. While the prospect of waiting sux, I think I am more comfortable doing so than jumping in on the first run.
It is not a question of NI taking care of me if there is an issues, it is a question of when. I am still jealous of all those who did place the order and will kick myself the day everyone starts posting their unboxing videos :-(
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Office Depot will give you a return gift ticket for Jan 8th (they did for me). Since Flash and the acceleromter have issues out of box, Office Depot should allow return and no restock or forced store credit (they do this for opened electronics). The store manager wrote on my receipt "Full return allowed", since he was aware of the issues.
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For those that are wanting but not ordered an Adam - the Pixel QI versions are already sold out. All they have left now is the LCD version.
Since I couldn't pull the trigger on the Adam I guess the only thing standing between me unboxing my g tablet is questions of the viewing angles. Since my wife picked this up from the store I have not seen it in person. Is it really a deal breaker? What is Office Depot return policy on open products - I know during the holidays returns are extended until Jan 8 but not sure if that mean sealed in the box or not? I imagine I could just go and return it Dec 26 if it is that bad....stores are usually so crazy that day they ask few questions about returns.
Oh, and about Notion Ink. They updated their blog explaining some of the conditions (such as $50 shipping) and it is a little more comforting. I never doubted they were a good, honest company. I think my issue is that they are biting off more than they can chew.
Building a fantastic product in a lab is one thing - seeing a new product introduction through the entire manufacturing process is something completely different and that is where I am not sure of NI's experience. While the prospect of waiting sux, I think I am more comfortable doing so than jumping in on the first run.
It is not a question of NI taking care of me if there is an issues, it is a question of when. I am still jealous of all those who did place the order and will kick myself the day everyone starts posting their unboxing videos :-(
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For personal viewing/usage I don't really find it to be that noticeable except when I rotate the tablet specifically to look at this and was simultaneously checking for backlight bleed(had bad bleed on GT & WPDN).
Sorry, but there's a problem with a company that immediately charges for an order when they KNOW it will not be shipping for a while. They're SUPPOSED to NOT charge UNTIL the item is shipped or about to be shipped. So this tells me that they're tight on money ATM...
Someone posted that over 10,000 were sold yesterday. I always wondered about that site and how they could make any money, but figure this, if they made $10 a piece on each that is one incredible day for even many of the larger retailers.
I thought this was going to be great for the G tablet community with which it would make Viewsonic take notice and develop more for this product.
But what if many who bought were resellers jumping on a bargain (my bet). Still eventually if they sold it would still be good.
I always thought the Apple fanatics were really out there standing in lines to buy the latest until it was explained that many were buying to resell and sell higher than retail. Still dopes to pay but does explain more.
The thing is there's little to be made for any who plan to resell. These retail for $350 to $370 and after ebay, paypal, and shipping fees we're only looking at maybe a $20 to $30 profit. Plus with woot limiting the amount you can buy I really think most of the G-Tablets sold yesterday were to people genuinely interested in the product. Well, at least I was one.
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Someone posted that over 10,000 were sold yesterday. I always wondered about that site and how they could make any money, but figure this, if they made $10 a piece on each that is one incredible day for even many of the larger retailers.
I thought this was going to be great for the G tablet community with which it would make Viewsonic take notice and develop more for this product.
But what if many who bought were resellers jumping on a bargain (my bet). Still eventually if they sold it would still be good.
I always thought the Apple fanatics were really out there standing in lines to buy the latest until it was explained that many were buying to resell and sell higher than retail. Still dopes to pay but does explain more.
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I know that our customer support group purchased quite a few of these yesterday .
I had been prodding them toward getting these as our mobile platform for a while, was super happy they came up on woot
I agree that most who got woot deals yesterday were buying for home use and not re-sell. People have been seeing the Gtab, and even through all the exxcitment of the xoom, interest in it was picking up. This just goes to show people are smarter with their money than given credit for and it gives a clear message that we are not willing to pay 6 to 8 hundred dollars for hype and a carrier contract.
I bought mine for personal use. I've been on the fence and could not pass up this deal.
I honestly had my heart set on the iPad 2 pre release, but then once I saw it didn't have retina and the price was still relatively expensive (for a 32gb 3G), I figured I might as well save my money. Once the woot deal came on, I did some research and stumbled across this community, and how couldn't I buy the product for just $280? I just signed up to this forum this week and I'm already addicted reading up on how everyone is modding their gTab. Thanks in advance to all the mods who will make my experience a pleasant one..
Bought mine for personal use as well. Been on the fence for a while over a tablet saw the woot, liked the price and after some research here and elsewhere decided with some fairly simple tweaks this would fit all my needs in a tablet.
Bought mine for personal use and work. Part of my job is providing support for my company's mobile apps, and it is much more convenient to have my own than dig up where the company hardware is hiding. I also have a toddler and we are going on a 4 hr plane trip next month, so I couldn't pass up the opportunity for an electronic babysitter for the trip at this price. (There may be toddler/mom deathmatches over who gets to use it as both of us are geeks)
Bought mine for personal use yesterday too.
I can't wait
Hi purchased the nook color when it was 200 bucks for ebay. and i love it.
It is used at my restaurant as digital photo album / menu
the face that you can grab it with one hand and do demonstrations with it is awesome.
But it is lacking in some ways.
Purchased the gtab for personal use, front facing camera etc. I dont know how usable it will be, but I am hoping the dual core processor helps things out more.
honestly loading webpages on the NC with dolphin or skyfire was ok. but not great, and it definitely could not unseat my netbook that i also carry around with me wherever i go.
I think 285 bucks delivered for a dual core tablet with these specs and the best user group community on the planet (XDA) which has always helped me with my droid1, fascinate (for a friend) nook color, and now gtab... is a super steal. to borrow the words of another forum post: Lucky mofos.
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Well, at least I was one.
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So was I! This is going to be my first foray into tablet computing. At such a low price with real hardware, this going to let me get my feet wet, and if I hate it, i'm sure i can sell it at just a slight loss. Hoping I love it though!
Was in for one as well, though I'd just grabbed a Nook Color (just before that eBay deal); was impressed with how much more usable the larger screen was, and how much it felt like I was trying to work with a postage stamp when I swapped back to my G2.
Then this came up, and couldn't resist long enough for them to sell out.
Actually ended up sucking a few friends in as well..
I had no idea the makers of my TV made a tablet. I jumped on this when I read the specs. Hopefully Woot doesn't take more than a month for this thing to ship out.
to good a deal to pass up....needed a new toy to play with
I just picked up the NC a few days ago. I never even heard of the gtab until it popped up on woot. I've returned my NC.. the hardware on the gtab for the price can't be beat.
Just watch ebay. Yesterday there was one gTab listed with 7 days left current price of like $180. I think there will be lost on there and the price will end up falling on ebay and people wont be able to sell them for much (if any) more then they bought them for.
I plan on keeping mine. Bought it for personal use. Wanted a galaxy tab, but didn't want a contract or to spend 400-500.
I can survive a $280 fight with my wife, not a $500 one.
Good deal, bought for personal use also.
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Just watch ebay. Yesterday there was one gTab listed with 7 days left current price of like $180. I think there will be lost on there and the price will end up falling on ebay and people wont be able to sell them for much (if any) more then they bought them for.
I plan on keeping mine. Bought it for personal use. Wanted a galaxy tab, but didn't want a contract or to spend 400-500.
I can survive a $280 fight with my wife, not a $500 one.
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One closed yesterday around $315 after paypal and ebay fees you'd lose a bit of money on the deal. Personally I bought one for me, just wnated to see ebay pricing in case I didn't like it.
Given that only about 3% of purchasers purchased 3 at once I doubt that very many were purchased for resale.
same with me, you took the words right out of my mouth
I just canceled my order that I placed on woot.com because all this talk about the viewing angles and no market or honeycomb and I really like to have my devices ready fresh out the box so im just gunna wait for the Samsung 10.1 coming in june with its gorgeous display and slim design .I was having that feeling of buyers remorse after I ordered the gtablet lol
Those were the debates I had in my head when I was deciding whether to purchase the woot deal or not. You know what it came down to for me. The cheapest gtab with 16gb internal will be $499. $499-274.99=$224. That's practically 2 Gtabs for the price of one Samsung Galaxy Tab. Plus I will NEVER trust Samsung again when it comes to software. They have screwed me enough times and still are the slowest Android manufacturer at updating software.
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I just canceled my order that I placed on woot.com because all this talk about the viewing angles and no market or honeycomb and I really like to have my devices ready fresh out the box so im just gunna wait for the Samsung 10.1 coming in june with its gorgeous display and slim design .I was having that feeling of buyers remorse after I ordered the gtablet lol
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I no have any problem with the viewing angles. For me it is ok. And don't expect cheaper tablets unless the unknown brands... The Gtablet is one of the most versatile tablets, you can flash freely almost anything without brick it.
And of course always is gonna be a better deal around the corner, if you wait, but it can keep you waiting for life. I rather prefer live the present.
Just my 0.02 cents
Angles do not bother me at all. In fact, I was traveling this week and the guy next to me kept trying to see what I was doing and I was glad to know that he probably was having trouble.
I have not doubt somebody will figure out how to get Honeycomb on this thing, but right now, I am happy with it as it is with Vegan. My plan is to keep this for a year while HC gets its bugs worked out and the technology drops in price. Then I will buy a new one and give this to my kids who use it over 50% of the time anyways...
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I just canceled my order that I placed on woot.com because all this talk about the viewing angles and no market or honeycomb and I really like to have my devices ready fresh out the box so im just gunna wait for the Samsung 10.1 coming in june with its gorgeous display and slim design .I was having that feeling of buyers remorse after I ordered the gtablet lol
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*Honks the Nobody Cares Horn* *HONK!*
I'm about to return my 2nd gtab.
I picked up my first Viewsonic gTab from Tiger Direct in Canada. The battery wouldn't charge right out of the box. I ordered another one and sent the first one back. The second randomly loses power while on battery. I have to tap it in the right spot to get it back up again.
I think the build quality is suspect on these units. I'm going to wait for Xoom/Asus Transformer/Samsung...I have to be patient...I don't want to get sucked in to the iDarkside available in stores now.
If every device worked "out of the box" sites like XDA would not be around. XDA is here to help improve the out of box experience. if you don't do that what's the point of coming here?
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Those were the debates I had in my head when I was deciding whether to purchase the woot deal or not. You know what it came down to for me. The cheapest gtab with 16gb internal will be $499. $499-274.99=$224. That's practically 2 Gtabs for the price of one Samsung Galaxy Tab. Plus I will NEVER trust Samsung again when it comes to software. They have screwed me enough times and still are the slowest Android manufacturer at updating software.
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And that's the same reason I ordered 2. And, if I knew then what I know now, I would have purchased the OP's for a total of 3.
Special thanks to the everyone working on the gTablet. I hope to pay them back somehow.
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I just canceled my order that I placed on woot.com because all this talk about the viewing angles and no market or honeycomb and I really like to have my devices ready fresh out the box so im just gunna wait for the Samsung 10.1 coming in june with its gorgeous display and slim design .I was having that feeling of buyers remorse after I ordered the gtablet lol
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if you think buying a samsung product will get you a great out of the box experience you are sadly mistaken. the samsung vibrant was pretty much useless and took forever to get the froyi update necessary to make it run at even reasonable speed. cannot compare apples and oranges - this is a 285 dollar tablet
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I picked up my first Viewsonic gTab from Tiger Direct in Canada. The battery wouldn't charge right out of the box. I ordered another one and sent the first one back. The second randomly loses power while on battery. I have to tap it in the right spot to get it back up again.
I think the build quality is suspect on these units. I'm going to wait for Xoom/Asus Transformer/Samsung...I have to be patient...I don't want to get sucked in to the iDarkside available in stores now.
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Yea and I read in the thread somewhere that viewsonic didn't even make the device or something like that. Altough I know it is a great device for the price, I just don't want to settle for less when there's better tablets coming out in a couple of months
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Angles do not bother me at all. In fact, I was traveling this week and the guy next to me kept trying to see what I was doing and I was glad to know that he probably was having trouble.
I have not doubt somebody will figure out how to get Honeycomb on this thing, but right now, I am happy with it as it is with Vegan. My plan is to keep this for a year while HC gets its bugs worked out and the technology drops in price. Then I will buy a new one and give this to my kids who use it over 50% of the time anyways...
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Used the screen to your advantage huh lol nice,and yea I get you by christmas the xoom will probably be around 400$ and also lg tablets toshiba tablets and the rest of the bunch
For the price, I'll take the drawbacks. I just need to do a bit of reading to figure out how to tweak it once it arrives. Hopefully some of my experience with the DX will come in handy.
Samsung makes decent hardware (though my sig might suggest otherwise) but their software sucks. Go look at how stressed out the CM guys are trying to get CM on the SGS.
At $280 the gTab is in the toy category. If I paid $400+ I would expect the thing to work flawlessly.
To each his own really, for me the excitement around the gTab is that it is nearly 100% unlocked so tinkering with the thing will be super easy.
Even some of the complaints people have with the device with the newest patches are kids play compared to some of the crap I had to deal with on my SGS in order to make it work the way I wanted.
That ran through my head for about 5 seconds. Then I remembered that I have a Vibrant.
The hardware's fantastic, but the software it shipped with was garbage, and samsung clearly doesn't give a crap about showing the modders any love with releasing source. Don't get me wrong, I love my phone, but it's the combo of Samsung hardware and Team Whiskey software that makes it good.
Personally, I'm avoiding giving Samsung any more money (Android-wise) unless they start acting more like HTC (who mostly does well, I think) or something.
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And that's the same reason I ordered 2. And, if I knew then what I know now, I would have purchased the OP's for a total of 3.
Special thanks to the everyone working on the gTablet. I hope to pay them back somehow.
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+1 bazillion.
Really if you have a personal preference like this, why even come on to a GTab forum and post something that you know will possibly start a flame war.
If you did not want to buy it because of what you hear great... for you!
Why do I care?
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Lol... I was thinking the same thing.
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Those were the debates I had in my head when I was deciding whether to purchase the woot deal or not. You know what it came down to for me. The cheapest gtab with 16gb internal will be $499. $499-274.99=$224. That's practically 2 Gtabs for the price of one Samsung Galaxy Tab. Plus I will NEVER trust Samsung again when it comes to software. They have screwed me enough times and still are the slowest Android manufacturer at updating software.
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Man.....I know what you mean. I own an epic 4g (great phone) and they just now, finally released the Froyo update for it. Thank god for these forums.
Even with Buyers remorse why would you not sell the tablet for more on ebay or craiglist to make some extra cash???
I have a chance to purchase either a Galaxy Tab 10.1 or the TF.I can get either one for 399.00. I have tried both and taken both back a week or so ago. I did like them but could not decide which one was the keeper although I leaned toward the TF. Until today the deciding factor was the 100.00 price difference (499vs 399) well today they are on equal terms. Any suggestions or input from those that have had both devices for a couple of weeks or more would be greatly appreciated. Also any other suggestions etc also warmly received.
I own two TFs and a Gtablet. The main reason I bought them is the support on forums such as xda. Personally I don't touch Samsung stuffs due to support (they just suck at FW/SW also the way they copy Apple --> no ports). Since you mentioned the deal @Staples, I would get the Acer for $299 (fool-around until tegra3 comes).
I have had bad experiences with Samsung in the past, not so much their products, but their support is the worst in the industry.
I purchased my TF 3 days ago and have been unable to put it down since. I Love it. amazing piece of equipment you would be hard pressed to find a better device imho
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This won't help you make your decision but Staples has a coupon floating around for $100 off ANY tablet
I just picked up a galaxy tab today from staples. So far i am really enjoying it. I also own a transformer, which i have been enjoying for a couple of months. If I only had on tablet and the choice was between the two, I would pick the transformer based soley on the fact that it has expandable memory and i could easily fill up 16 or 32 GB. With that being said if I didn't need the storage I would opt for the tab just because of its form and screen.
Now i am going to say something that I will probably get flamed for in this forum. I actually like the xoom better than the transformer and i plan to sell the TF on ebay then pick up a xoom from staples before the $100 off deal ends. I bought on over the weekend from staples because they had the $50 off deal last week and they had no tabs in stock, knowing that I was most likely going to return it. I really enjoyed it and miss it already.
The only downside compared that the TF was its weight, which didn't really bother me. For all of the talk about how much better the TF screen is than the xoom, I didn't really see it. I really tried too,playing the same videos on both side by side. Yes if you were looking at it from an odd angle it didn't look as good, but a tablet is almost always pointing right at you from a foot or so away. The xoom also comes with 32 GB internal memory for the price, and the build quality felt substantially better than the TF. If you really wanted the dock for the TF, then I could see that swaying somebodies decision, but I personally have no interest in it.
Anyway that is my opinion on things after having owned all three. I don't mean to make your decision any harder or start a flame war in here.
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This won't help you make your decision but Staples has a coupon floating around for $100 off ANY tablet
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I just bought both of them and will have a shwodown. Thanks for all of the replies
hyperxguy said:
I own two TFs and a Gtablet. The main reason I bought them is the support on forums such as xda. Personally I don't touch Samsung stuffs due to support (they just suck at FW/SW also the way they copy Apple --> no ports). Since you mentioned the deal @Staples, I would get the Acer for $299 (fool-around until tegra3 comes).
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Do you mean you have thegalaxy tab or g slate
It seems like everyone is so obsessed with finding these touchpads and I really don't understand why. Yes for $100 or even $150 or $200 they're definitely worth it. But even just looking around this forum and some other sites, it seems like people are becoming so obsessed with getting a touchpad that they're spending a lot of money on them and are failing to realize that its not that good of a product and that its OS is basically abandoned. For a good price I would get one, but would it really be worth more that $250?
Agreed.
I don't think its worth more than the current 99/149 prices.
After using one for about a week, I can say it's definitely not worth more than about $250 in its current state (if not less). It'll be worth the same amount as other lower-priced tablets when Android makes its way onto it. Either that, or when the Android emulator becomes functional.
WebOS is actually a really fantastic OS, there's just no apps for it.
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It seems like everyone is so obsessed with finding these touchpads and I really don't understand why. Yes for $100 or even $150 or $200 they're definitely worth it. But even just looking around this forum and some other sites, it seems like people are becoming so obsessed with getting a touchpad that they're spending a lot of money on them and are failing to realize that its not that good of a product and that its OS is basically abandoned. For a good price I would get one, but would it really be worth more that $250?
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There is a marketing lesson to be learnt here somewhere. Unfortuantley HP don't seem to be taking advantage of the hype they have generated.
I would also buy one for the cheaper price (I went to Harvey norman on the sale day but missed out) but agree the prices people are paying for them now are rediculous. ($350-$400 lol) Unless more magically appear at or around the firesale price I will be saving for the next gen tablets.
Im hooked on watching people freak out over these tablets. Its so funny, I bought one for my sister and she loves it. All she does is Facebook and internet so it was a deal for her.
Impossible to find any around here selling on craigslist for $200 or less.
I'm going tomorrow morning to get one for $99. I can totally understand why people are freaking out. It's 9", 1.2 ghz dual-core processor, and Android is coming very very soon via rootzwiki. I have the Galaxy Tab 7" and it's just a hummingbird single core 1.0 ghz, and I got it a few months ago on sale for $200, so hell yeah I'm going tomorrow early and lining up an hour before doors open.
I was only going to get one to flash it with Honeycomb.. but can not find one anywhere. If you aren't going to be doing that, then I don't see the justification for buying an unsupported product with no apps.
A lot of people got them because they knew Android would be ported to it sooner or later, making it a pretty decent device.
I tried to get one, but failed.
Other "non-nerd" general consumers got them because it is a cheap tablet that is fairly versatile, and for what you get, the price was amazing.
All these idiots think they are going to sell them all for $250-300..... no one wanted this crap before the $99 sale.
I hope all the hoarders get stuck with them all,
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All these idiots think they are going to sell them all for $250-300..... no one wanted this crap before the $99 sale.
I hope all the hoarders get stuck with them all,
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There is no thinking about it, I got $265 out of a NIB 16GB.
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There is no thinking about it, I got $265 out of a NIB 16GB.
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I think the market value of one of these is probably around 200 dollars. Actually,while Im not a fan of WebOS I think HPs situation is their own doing. There is a demand from a top manufacturer for a cheap tablet. What they SHOULD have done was contracted with one of these Taiwanese companies that make the 150-200 dollar tablets and made a smaller cheaper version of their tablet. Sell it close to cost for 150 dollars or so,running Web-OS,and sell their flagship tablet for around 400 dollars,pretty much what it takes to make it. I bet the cheaper ones would have flown off the shelves,creating a demand for WebOS apps,which would have driven demand for the bigger tablet. Instead,they tried to go head to head right at the start with the iPad,and priced their product similarly.
Think of it this way. Hyundai wants into the luxury car market. Should they make a car with similar features as a BMW, sell it for the same price and expect people to flock to it in droves? Of course not. That would be really stupid,especially considering that even if they do it right and make it comparable to the BMW,its going to have flaws because they have never done that before. Instead,what they did was make a comparable luxury car,two actually,the Genesis and the Equus. they are priced at 40K and 60K respectively. Thats around 10 grand at the low end and 20 at the high end lower than comparably equipped cars. They have to compete on price because they cant compete on the other aspects of their product. Some years down the road,if they can get and keep quality up to par,they may end up in the same situation as Honda and Toyota who used to be seen as cheap imported junk,but now are seen as high quality desirable vehicles. However,if they tried to simply change overnight and step in and compete with BMW ,or Toyota (Lexus) or Honda (Acura) they would fail as miserably as HP did.(they may still fail of course)
You have to have a plan on how to make inroads into someone elses markets and build a reputation or no one is going to buy your product,whether you are selling tablets that compete with the iPad or cars that compete with BMW. Samsungs strategy is that they are HUGE. Android tablets seem to be taking off slowly,and they can stay in the game and do things like use their other products to build market share. (For instance,if you buy a samsung TV and a samsung tablet,you can get a nice discount.)
I gave up, eventually the crazy will go down and those tablet will sell on ebay for the right price. For 300 dollars I'll look for a honeycomb android tablet at that point (I think I saw the asus transformer at that price or a bit more)
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I'm going tomorrow morning to get one for $99. I can totally understand why people are freaking out. It's 9", 1.2 ghz dual-core processor, and Android is coming very very soon via rootzwiki. I have the Galaxy Tab 7" and it's just a hummingbird single core 1.0 ghz, and I got it a few months ago on sale for $200, so hell yeah I'm going tomorrow early and lining up an hour before doors open.
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My argument isn't that the touchpad isn't a good device for $100. If I could get one for $100 or even $150 that would be great. But my comment is that some people miss out on the sales, and for some reason continue to pursue getting one, even if it means paying $250+ to get one from someone else who bought them for cheap. People are getting caught up in having to get a touchpad that they end up wasting lots of money on a subpar device.
Are you kidding
Everyone went and got these because they know stock android will be hacked onto it in no time.
When the rush dies, in a couple of months I am sure someone will be able to pick up one on ebay close to firesale price.
WebOS is a nice OS but it's DOA now. IF android Honeycomb or ICS gets ported then it's a good buy. If it's stuck to 2.* version, then no. Phone software on a 10" tablet is plain stupid.
Web os is not dead HP said that it would continue to develop the platform but was giving up on making the hardware. people who pay more than $250 for this out dated device are retarted just buy a nook color and root it you will have the same features and it has great development behind it
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NORCALkID said:
Web os is not dead HP said that it would continue to develop the platform but was giving up on making the hardware. people who pay more than $250 for this out dated device are retarted just buy a nook color and root it you will have the same features and it has great development behind it
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HP also said that it would be "double down" on WebOS products when bought Palm. HP also said that it would only release perfect products (TouchPad launched with bugs beyond belief).
I really have a hard time believing what they say...
I will agree the whole HP Touchpad deal is getting kind of ridiculous. I admit, I was checking everywhere for one... But I wasn't about to spend double the price of the markdowns. I am actually on mine now, but I paid $149 for it at best buy two days ago. I didn't buy mine to make money, but to put it to use. Now I'm waiting on the clever devs to port Android over. And, I agree give it a month or two, and we'll see the prices back down to where they should be.
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I really have a hard time believing what they say...
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There's that, then there's also that HP didn't even say what NORCALkID claims they did. They said, and I quote:
HP will continue to explore options to optimize the value of webOS software going forward.
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Which is just buzzword bingo BS that says... nothing whatsoever.