It seems like everything cool requires a rooted device. I just can't bring myself to voiding the warranty on such a new and expensive device. You people must have a good deal more disposable income than I do.
That, or there is some magical way to accomplish all this that I don't know about. Any useful advice is welcome.
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anonymity said:
It seems like everything cool requires a rooted device. I just can't bring myself to voiding the warranty on such a new and expensive device. You people must have a good deal more disposable income than I do.
That, or there is some magical way to accomplish all this that I don't know about. Any useful advice is welcome.
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It's a fact, that bricking your device can be very difficult. If you follow the rooting instructions to the T, then you should be fine and successfully root your phone. When you finally complete root then the first thing we do to ensure we don't brick our phones is a Nandroid backup. In the event something goes south, we just restore what are Nandroid did for us.
Is it still possible to brick? Of course. Most people end up bricking their phones because they don't know what they're doing. That's what this forum is for! Post your questions in the Questions section. We're here to help. Good luck.
**I should also point out that your warranty only voids software problems for obvious reasons.
I do appreciate the help. What happens if I break something physically with the phone? I'm paying extra for the device insurance. Do you think it would still be covered?
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I do appreciate the help. What happens if I break something physically with the phone? I'm paying extra for the device insurance. Do you think it would still be covered?
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If you Break something physically, its your fault and the warranty doesn't cover. I heard from someone @ vzw that a huge % of warranty claims are for software issues, and if you have root you can usually fix these yourself.
Keep your phone for 2-3 months, if nothing fails in that time nothing probably will, unless you cause it ;-)
IMHO anything after that is customer abuse anyway.... warranty is only for defects.
Also: pay for insurance, its worth it.
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Buy a good protective case and you won't have to worry so much about physical damage. The only bricks i've heard about was caused by the newest leaked gb radio. I running stock radio on cm7.
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Lemme point out something... Get the insurance. If you break your phone and want to make a claim on your very rooted device, there really is no problem here. Just make sure it will never work again. "Opps... I accidentally dunked it in my salt water aquarium!" Kinda see where I'm going with that? Now it's an insurance claim, and they couldn't care less if they ever see the phone again. In fact, if you just called yours in stolen, they might just send you another one for the price of the deductible. I've called phones in stolen and got the insurance replacement. It's easy. Just follow the directions for rooting exactly and you'll be fine. If you're coming from the dInc, it's pretty much all the same after you're rooted.
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Lemme point out something... Get the insurance. If you break your phone and want to make a claim on your very rooted device, there really is no problem here. Just make sure it will never work again. "Opps... I accidentally dunked it in my salt water aquarium!" Kinda see where I'm going with that? Now it's an insurance claim, and they couldn't care less if they ever see the phone again. In fact, if you just called yours in stolen, they might just send you another one for the price of the deductible. I've called phones in stolen and got the insurance replacement. It's easy. Just follow the directions for rooting exactly and you'll be fine. If you're coming from the dInc, it's pretty much all the same after you're rooted.
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Wow. That's some serious insurance fraud, man. Don't think I could ever bring myself to that.
On topic, the ABSOLUTE BEST advice I can give the OP is to read, read, read. Rooting using jcase's step-by-step instructions is easy and perfectly safe (assuming you follow his instructions to the letter). There is also a safe way to revert back to stock, unrooted. Both of those threads are stickied in the dev forum. As long as you make Nandroid backups often, you'll be able to revert back to a working phone in 99.9999% of all cases (the only exception that I know of being the possibly-gingerbread-leak-related bootlooping). However, you should only root if you feel comfortable with it, and the only way to do that is to gather as much information as possible. So, lurk the forums here for a while, search the web for anything you can find about rooting, restoring stock, nandroid backups, and anything else you don't quite understand. Oh, and good luck with whatever you decide to do!
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On topic, the ABSOLUTE BEST advice I can give the OP is to read, read, read. Rooting using jcase's step-by-step instructions is easy and perfectly safe (assuming you follow his instructions to the letter).
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Jcase's instructions makes it ridiculously simple to root. Once you do it, you'll ask yourself why you waited so long
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I've called phones in stolen and got the insurance replacement.
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Actually, the insurance is comprehensive. They should cover it without you lying to them or defrauding them. Just tell them the truth, pay the deductible, and you're golden.
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We were all noobs at this at one point or another, some of us more lucky than others for the extensive computer knowledge over others.
Keep good faith if your really interested, read everything over and over until you're positive you got it down. The first time you do it is always a nervous moment, believe me I've been there. I'm fairly confident about what I do these days with my phone, the community is great to help you out if you cant find an answer as well. Always search for your question first.
IMO rooting and flashing isn't for the faint of heart but we all get addicted.
Also as for the insurance, you pay it for a reason, yea the way some people word it sounds like insurance fraud...I took in my last phone because it wouldn't sync via usb anymore, long story short I cracked my screen months before the usb stopped functioning, so vzw wouldnt cover it for hardware malfunction, but they said the insurance deductible will cover a replacement for the cracked screen...so in the long run, really, they dont care. Whats really the difference between you cracking your screen and getting a replacement, and you doing anything else and getting a replacement(if you have to pay the deductable of coarse)? I see nothing morally wrong there...sorry for the rant, I know its been covered many a time, just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in there
You also need to remember that many people that have "bricked" a phone still get it covered through the warranty. The reason for this is, if I walk into a verizon store with a phone not booting or stuck in a boot loop they will have no clue whether its rooted or not. The exception to this is, if you have a custom boot loader image on. Also if something software related does happen to your phone, lets say the radio malfunctions and you can't access the verizon network anymore. All you have to do is un-root your phone before sending it in.
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Wow. That's some serious insurance fraud, man. Don't think I could ever bring myself to that.
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No fraud in doing something like that. Look, customers pay a $6.99 monthly premium for peace of mind, the contract says only two things are not covered, nuclear meltdown and war (literally), anything else whatever it may be is covered. Plus you still have to pay a deductible of $100 bucks for a refurbished phone that has ALREADY been sold previously for full retail price. So I wouldn't feel so bad for the insurance company considering just one policy holder pays around $140 over 20 months of a 2yr contract, now ask yourself, how many customers have insurance and never file a claim? More than enough not to make me lose any sleep over reporting my phone lost or stolen...
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[....]Also if something software related does happen to your phone, lets say the radio malfunctions and you can't access the verizon network anymore. All you have to do is un-root your phone before sending it in.
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So it is possible to unroot a phone? I thought that's what I was reading in dev section but I wasn't 100% sure on that. I am a believer in RTFM philosophy. I guess I just have some more reading to do. Either way, I think I'm going to keep it stock for a little while. Thanks for all the great feedback guys.
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So it is possible to unroot a phone? I thought that's what I was reading in dev section but I wasn't 100% sure on that. I am a believer in RTFM philosophy. I guess I just have some more reading to do. Either way, I think I'm going to keep it stock for a little while. Thanks for all the great feedback guys.
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Yeah you can unroot. Just update a RUU with a signed bootloader and you are "unrooted" again. I believe that's how it works..
loonatik78 said:
Lemme point out something... Get the insurance. If you break your phone and want to make a claim on your very rooted device, there really is no problem here. Just make sure it will never work again. "Opps... I accidentally dunked it in my salt water aquarium!" Kinda see where I'm going with that? Now it's an insurance claim, and they couldn't care less if they ever see the phone again. In fact, if you just called yours in stolen, they might just send you another one for the price of the deductible. I've called phones in stolen and got the insurance replacement. It's easy. Just follow the directions for rooting exactly and you'll be fine. If you're coming from the dInc, it's pretty much all the same after you're rooted.
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Make sure your insurance covers water damage. The one from Wirefly DOES NOT.
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Make sure your insurance covers water damage. The one from Wirefly DOES NOT.
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dont understand why anyone would want the wirefly insurence working at a store myself more than half the people that come in needing replacements are due to water damage.
Also to the OP just root it and enjoy all the awesome Gingerbread goodness. I for one cant afford a new phone but love voiding warranties, anything from game consoles to phones i get more fun tinkering and modding device than i due just from the device itself. also i have found it pretty hard to brick a phone if you follow directions.
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Buy a good protective case and you won't have to worry so much about physical damage. The only bricks i've heard about was caused by the newest leaked gb radio. I running stock radio on cm7.
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Is that a fact? I'm being serious. So the people that hbooted the GB radio hadn't ever hbooted the latest radio leak?
Youtube a t-bolt rooting video. You'll see it's so easy, a caveman could do it. It just requires patience and attention to detail. You copy and paste commands, and make sure you follow the video, you can't miss. It's a lot easier than the Terminal Emulator method I used on my Droid 1, and not quite as easy as the Z4root I used on my X.
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So I just got back from the tmobile store, after sending in my g1 I bricked attempting to install the danger spl, claiming I had no idea what happened. Then I received a call from the person at the store that was helping me informing me that HTC would do a 'check' to see if it had been rooted, and fine me $400 if they discovered any unofficial roms on it. I told this man nothing.
Is this bs, or what?!
Either security has been upped in the recent past, and I'm going to have to pay $400, or he just tells that to everyone to scare them, I have no clue.
Any additional information would be appreciated very much.
TC,
No worries mate. It's BS, he's just looking to spook you, or he/she is a complete idiot of a rep. They can't fine you for it. You own the phone, not them (unless you're on some sort of a lease agreement contract I'm not aware of).
The most they'd do is just return the phone to you or something.
Cheers.
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So I just got back from the tmobile store, after sending in my g1 I bricked attempting to install the danger spl, claiming I had no idea what happened. Then I received a call from the person at the store that was helping me informing me that HTC would do a 'check' to see if it had been rooted, and fine me $400 if they discovered any unofficial roms on it. I told this man nothing.
Is this bs, or what?!
Either security has been upped in the recent past, and I'm going to have to pay $400, or he just tells that to everyone to scare them, I have no clue.
Any additional information would be appreciated very much.
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how can you brick a phone ( im noob so..)
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how can you brick a phone ( im noob so..)
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By not following directions, mostly.
Mine was taken by haykuro's death bringer.
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This person called me back, and claims that HTC can and will check every phone sent in for unofficial roms. I'm not sure what gave me away, but he said if I rooted my phone, then do NOT send it in, because they will not replace it, and I will need to pay $400 for a new g1. He says he knows this from experience.
I'm rather frightened now, but would much rather trust you guys. So, encouragement pl0x?
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By not following directions, mostly.
Mine was taken by haykuro's death bringer.
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This person called me back, and claims that HTC can and will check every phone sent in for unofficial roms. I'm not sure what gave me away, but he said if I rooted my phone, then do NOT send it in, because they will not replace it, and I will need to pay $400 for a new g1. He says he knows this from experience.
I'm rather frightened now, but would much rather trust you guys. So, encouragement pl0x?
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TC,
This changes things. You see, when you said a 400 USD fine...that's BS....but...you should have the option to keep your bricked G1 (assuming they can't fix it). They can't keep it and not return it you. After that point, it's really your choice if you want to buy a new one or not.
Cheers.
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TC,
This changes things. You see, when you said a 400 USD fine...that's BS....but...you should have the option to keep your bricked G1 (assuming they can't fix it). They can't keep it and not return it you. After that point, it's really your choice if you want to buy a new one or not.
Cheers.
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Yes, but is there anyway they can tell it was rooted? Because if they can't, wouldn't they just replace it for free?
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Yes, but is there anyway they can tell it was rooted? Because if they can't, wouldn't they just replace it for free?
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TC,
I'm sorry, I do not have the information to these things and I wouldn't know. I can wish you all the best at this point, and hope that you screwed up the phone's memory to a point where nothing is readable by whatever gadgets/software they have.
Whatever it is, they can NOT fine you, that's the point I want you to take away from all this. Lawl.
Cheers.
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TC,
I'm sorry, I do not have the information to these things and I wouldn't know. I can wish you all the best at this point, and hope that you screwed up the phone's memory to a point where nothing is readable by whatever gadgets/software they have.
Whatever it is, they can NOT fine you, that's the point I want you to take away from all this. Lawl.
Cheers.
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Thank you so very much, I greatly appreciate your kindness and time, and hope you have a wonderful day.
OMGAHAHAHAHAH
Sorry,
I just find it so sad a rep tried to threaten you a fine for using your [OWN] device with a fine for doing what YOU want on your OWN device. Has the world come to this insanity?
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OMGAHAHAHAHAH
Sorry,
I just find it so sad a rep tried to threaten you a fine for using your [OWN] device with a fine for doing what YOU want on your OWN device. Has the world come to this insanity?
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Well at least we've got you guys =P
Do you have 'Accident' insurance?
Yes, they can tell if you rooted it, or flashed it with an unofficial ROM. By doing that, you invalidated your warranty so if they really DO check it, they are pretty unlikely to repair it for free, hence the $400.
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Yes, they can tell if you rooted it, or flashed it with an unofficial ROM. By doing that, you invalidated your warranty so if they really DO check it, they are pretty unlikely to repair it for free, hence the $400.
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Even if it's bricked?
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Even if it's bricked?
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TC,
I wouldn't be surprised. You know how a damaged hard drive can be rendered inaccessible to the average joe? And how there are data-recovery companies that can somehow still get data back for you?
I'm pretty sure they can tell. If that's the case, like I've said before, it's really your call if you want to purchase a new phone or buy a second hand rooted one in the marketplace.
Cheers.
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Even if it's bricked?
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It's only bricked to you, not to them. It's more likely they'd just reflash the ROM and not bother to check, but what with Google's recent actions on trying to stop custom Android ROMs containing their closed source software, they MIGHT be pressuring HTC to check for custom ROMs as well...
It's your choice whether you want to take the chance or not. The worst that can happen is that they won't honour the warranty and either send the device back to you, or require you to pay for the repair.
Good luck for you and take easy.
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Ho ,really sorry sorry links,links!
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It's only bricked to you, not to them. It's more likely they'd just reflash the ROM and not bother to check, but what with Google's recent actions on trying to stop custom Android ROMs containing their closed source software, they MIGHT be pressuring HTC to check for custom ROMs as well...
It's your choice whether you want to take the chance or not. The worst that can happen is that they won't honour the warranty and either send the device back to you, or require you to pay for the repair.
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aHA!
Someone from here needs to get a job at htc, and pray the unbricking technique is revealed to them
LMFAO! That guy needs to get his ass kicked! You can turn your device in a custom ROM server and the only thing they can do is return it to you without repairing it. Nothing more. Ha! What ...... .... that rep must be. ........ ... ...... ..... haha!
If they catch you with a custom ROM, you would have to pay for the repair yourself, but that is normal. I never, NEVER, go to official repair shops. I just go to any repair centre and pay the price for the repair. Saves me a lot of nerves lol.
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aHA!
Someone from here needs to get a job at htc, and pray the unbricking technique is revealed to them
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It's not difficult, but you can't do it from home because it requires dedicated hardware to connect directly to the phone's main board.
How do you think they flash these things in the first place, hmm? They sure as hell don't run the same type of flashing process that we do!
I know I messed up by not getting the 5 dollar insurance. I sure am pissed of at myself now. To make matters worse I purchased my triumph on Ebay. lol. Does any cellphone repair store deal with these phones already, I might have to check sometime this week But is there any website where maybe I can purchase a gorilla glass screen replacement. I would gladly take on the repair challenge myself. Thanks everyone! Hopefully someone can help and I would greatly appreciate it!
(Edit) A nice VM chick allowed me to get it insured, surprisingly I still had time. If anyone wants to ill open it up for sure when I receive my new one.... for science!!!
Not to rub salt in the wound but I seen a bigger screen and figured I'd be the first one to break it so I got the insurance. I got mine from Best Buy. Might be a dumb question but will VM warranty it?
I believe BB only warrants the phone usually for 30 days, I'm not to sure. Regarding VM as soon as you sign up, you often receive a text that lets you add on insurance for 5 extra dollars. GET IT!! Because as of now my best hope is to just go to a random repair shop and see if they can even fix it.
Hey, do us a favor - take a photo of the broken screen and post it here!
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Hey, do us a favor - take a photo of the broken screen and post it here!
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http://imgur.com/a/fMIeG Here ya go! Basically the touchscreen still functioned but about 80% of the top screen was not working at all. Then the battery died and it did not want to take a charge anymore. Basically both issues are unrelated it just so happens that Motorola really rushed this thing, and you can tell what a terrible job they did looking at the whole sub-forum. I wish I would have avoided spending 300 bucks and would have grabbed the Optimus V instead, I never hear anything bad about it. And being a college student I cant afford a 100$ monthly plan.
(EDIT) Really looking at this, I don't even know if the glass broke or if the touchscreen did. I don't feel anything on the outside. You guys are the experts, I will gladly open it up for you guys if you want. I just need to buy those tiny screwdrivers.
OUCH!~!!!!!!! Sorry man
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http://imgur.com/a/fMIeG Here ya go! Basically the touchscreen still functioned but about 80% of the top screen was not working at all. Then the battery died and it did not want to take a charge anymore. Basically both issues are unrelated it just so happens that Motorola really rushed this thing, and you can tell what a terrible job they did looking at the whole sub-forum. I wish I would have avoided spending 300 bucks and would have grabbed the Optimus V instead, I never hear anything bad about it. And being a college student I cant afford a 100$ monthly plan.
(EDIT) Really looking at this, I don't even know if the glass broke or if the touchscreen did. I don't feel anything on the outside. You guys are the experts, I will gladly open it up for you guys if you want. I just need to buy those tiny screwdrivers.
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I thought I read somewhere that VM warrants their phones for a year, no matter where you buy them. I could be wrong, and it could be for manufacturer's defects only. I'll look for the link when I get home.
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From the VM site:
http://www.virginmobileusa.com/30-day-guarantee
One-Year Warranty
All mobile phones purchased directly from Virgin Mobile, or one of our authorized resellers, include a one-year warranty from the original equipment manufacturer. If you experience an equipment malfunction, call Virgin Mobile At Your Service at 1-888-322-1122 and we will arrange for a replacement mobile phone.
I seriously doubt that would cover a cracked lcd screen. But I guess it doesn't hurt to try.
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From the VM site:
http://www.virginmobileusa.com/30-day-guarantee
One-Year Warranty
All mobile phones purchased directly from Virgin Mobile, or one of our authorized resellers, include a one-year warranty from the original equipment manufacturer. If you experience an equipment malfunction, call Virgin Mobile At Your Service at 1-888-322-1122 and we will arrange for a replacement mobile phone.
I seriously doubt that would cover a cracked lcd screen. But I guess it doesn't hurt to try.
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Yeah...there it is. The worst that can happen is they laugh at you...but what have you got to lose at this point? Maybe they can at least ship you a heavily discounted one...you never know.
Ouch that really sucks man
Well if all else fails you can always try and repair it your self.
It might cost a bit since some of the newer phones are coming with the lcd and the glass as one unit...
I might be wrong and only need to purchase the glass...
Good luck and hope you well
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Ouch that really sucks man
Well if all else fails you can always try and repair it your self.
It might cost a bit since some of the newer phones are coming with the lcd and the glass as one unit...
I might be wrong and only need to purchase the glass...
Good luck and hope you well
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I'll eventually find a way to fix it. The good thing about it being prepaid is I can stop paying anytime without penalties. Thank you so much for being a kind person and wishing me good luck!
(Ninja Edit) I just called VM and this nice chick allowed me to get it insured. I'm feeling a bit better now... (I'll claim it as lost or something)
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(Edit) A nice VM chick allowed me to get it insured, I'll just claim my phone was lost (To an epic accident lol).
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Not that it bothers me either way - I'm actually glad someone helped you out, BUT, couldn't this be considered a form of insurance fraud?
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I believe BB only warrants the phone usually for 30 days, I'm not to sure. Regarding VM as soon as you sign up, you often receive a text that lets you add on insurance for 5 extra dollars. GET IT!! Because as of now my best hope is to just go to a random repair shop and see if they can even fix it.
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Not true. I bricked my optimus v. So iread into the wack tech deal and it covers power surges. So i threw it into the microwave for ten seconds...150 off my new triumph! (The plans for two years btw)
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Not that it bothers me either way - I'm actually glad someone helped you out, BUT, couldn't this be considered a form of insurance fraud?
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I just started paying for this phone this month, she said I still had another week left actually, Had I waited more she said she would not have been able to help me.
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I'll eventually find a way to fix it. The good thing about it being prepaid is I can stop paying anytime without penalties. Thank you so much for being a kind person and wishing me good luck!
(Ninja Edit) I just called VM and this nice chick allowed me to get it insured. I'm feeling a bit better now... (I'll claim it as lost or something)
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Just remember that if you claim it as lost, you'll have a $100 deductible. Here's the VM claim site:
http://www.phoneclaim.com/virginmobileusa
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Just remember that if you claim it as lost, you'll have a $100 deductible. Here's the VM claim site:
http://www.phoneclaim.com/virginmobileusa
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I knew about the deductible beforehand though. Thanks the link really helped.
I love the xda community!
my sensation started acting weird after it got wet because of a little rain so i called tmobile regarding a exchange and they offer me the G2X or the Amaze 4G or another Sensation. of course i picked the Amaze and the phone came here yesterday brand new in box, but i do have to return my sensation.
at the moment i love the amaze but the sensation have more roms and more devs working on it than the amaze, maybe because this is a newer phone who knows
lol the only devs are x and crackeyes...that phone is an epic fail in development. Hopefully it gets better later.
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lol the only devs are x and crackeyes...that phone is an epic fail in development. Hopefully it gets better later.
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Xbroader has done sooo much for that damn phone, that it ain't even funny. He has like a ton of ROMs over there, such a dedicated fellow...
yeah but saying that 2 amazing devs only
Ask for another Sensation.
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my sensation started acting weird after it got wet because of a little rain so i called tmobile regarding a exchange and they offer me the G2X or the Amaze 4G or another Sensation. of course i picked the Amaze and the phone came here yesterday brand new in box, but i do have to return my sensation.
at the moment i love the amaze but the sensation have more roms and more devs working on it than the amaze, maybe because this is a newer phone who knows
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Dude, you have had this same exact post removed before. This is fraud, because in your last post, like this, you admitted you lied to tmo. People like you cause the rest of us to get screwed later on down the line with higher costs and harsher return policies...
Is it that easy in the states to get an exchange? You get your phone wet and they'll just give you a new phone just like that? I wish we had it easier here! If we drive our car into a pole or threw our cell phone against the wall, we wouldn't get a replacement! Heck no!
Anyway, back on topic. I'm confused... what is this post supposed to be about? Are you just boasting about getting the amaze? (it's working cause I'm pretty jealous!) Or just telling everyone else how they can get an amaze as well..!
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Is it that easy in the states to get an exchange? You get your phone wet and they'll just give you a new phone just like that? I wish we had it easier here! If we drive our car into a pole or threw our cell phone against the wall, we wouldn't get a replacement! Heck no!
Anyway, back on topic. I'm confused... what is this post supposed to be about? Are you just boasting about getting the amaze? (it's working cause I'm pretty jealous!) Or just telling everyone else how they can get an amaze as well..!
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This "person" has made this same post before, and was reported for encouraging fraud, don't worry though, he has been reported again.
As to is it that easy? Yes, when people like this lie to get something else...
My $0.02 worth...
it is not fraud thats the reason you pay for insurance!!! either you pay and get something good. or pay and get screw.
talking about lying how many times they had lie to you.
the way i see its if you gets screw you try to get around and get something better.
and yes you can drop the phone in the toilet and get a new one if you have insurance
and another thing. you by rooting the phone and then you brick it and call for an exchange thats lying too because by rooting it you broke the warranty.
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it is not fraud thats the reason you pay for insurance!!! either you pay and get something good. or pay and get screw.
talking about lying how many times they had lie to you.
the way i see its if you gets screw you try to get around and get something better.
and yes you can drop the phone in the toilet and get a new one if you have insurance
and another thing. you by rooting the phone and then you brick it and call for an exchange thats lying too because by rooting it you broke the warranty.
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Then be specific! And in addition, my Sensation is STOCK so keep your ignorance to yourself!
MODS: PLEASE CLOSE THIS WORTHLESS THREAD!
Others are correct. You're previous thread was removed as you were promoting insurance fraud, which is related to what you've just stated above.
Along with that, this thread serves no other purpose.
[Q] exchanging phone @ AT&T hoping to get one without 1.85; any experience with this?
Like an idiot I jumped the gun and updated to 1.85 without changing CID. I went to the store and they obviously didn't have any in stock but they would call me as soon as they got a shipment in/acquired one from another store even if it is past my 30 days.
Does anyone have any recent experience with this? Does it have an earlier version? Or will I be stuck with another 1.85 device?
1.85 hasn't been released... can't see how you'd end up with one.
So you know the risks of using a leaked ruu. Why not just wait for root for 1.85 or a official update ruu?
Nothing is wrong with your device
Why would you need to return it? If being on 1.85 is the only issue, why not wait it out? I can't see why this is a problem that would require an exchange...
If you are not experiencing any problems other than being on 1.85 I would suggest u keep the phone. There is a very good possibility you could end up with a phone that has issues like the one I have and several others have had. Not only that but u flashed it to your phone so why make the carrier pay for something u did.
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meccanikal said:
Like an idiot I jumped the gun and updated to 1.85 without changing CID. I went to the store and they obviously didn't have any in stock but they would call me as soon as they got a shipment in/acquired one from another store even if it is past my 30 days.
Does anyone have any recent experience with this? Does it have an earlier version? Or will I be stuck with another 1.85 device?
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I'm stuck on 1.85 also. The phone runs fine and I can wait for the root.
I'm just curious, what were you going to tell them to convince them to exchange your phone with 1.85 for a stock phone?
Mike
I just took mine to the AT&T store half an hour ago. Since it was finally released from customs they said it should be in stock this week. They let me hold onto the phone and said even if I have to keep it past the 30 days they'll replace it anyway. They said there's a possibility of it being in stock tomorrow, so if I replace it then, I'll let you know.
I swear this forum needs to take a harder stance on threads like these. Suggesting that you're taking the phone back for exchange because you knowingly flashed a software version that is not carrier supported is shameful. These threads should be treated like Warez posts and deleted or locked.
Come on people, these things cost money! HTC and AT&T may make a lot of money, but every time someone does something like this it cuts into their bottom line and you're just driving up costs for the rest of us.
sassafras
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I swear this forum needs to take a harder stance on threads like these. Suggesting that you're taking the phone back for exchange because you knowingly flashed a software version that is not carrier supported is shameful. These threads should be treated like Warez posts and deleted or locked.
Come on people, these things cost money! HTC and AT&T may make a lot of money, but every time someone does something like this it cuts into their bottom line and you're just driving up costs for the rest of us.
sassafras
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My my my someone is feeling self righteous. I'm sure your message/guilt trip is going to be absorbed by the denizens of a modding forum. Friendly reminder AT&T is the one getting in the way of letting you do what you want with your device and usage of data in the first place.
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I swear this forum needs to take a harder stance on threads like these. Suggesting that you're taking the phone back for exchange because you knowingly flashed a software version that is not carrier supported is shameful. These threads should be treated like Warez posts and deleted or locked.
Come on people, these things cost money! HTC and AT&T may make a lot of money, but every time someone does something like this it cuts into their bottom line and you're just driving up costs for the rest of us.
sassafras
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Agreed.
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Zabalba said:
My my my someone is feeling self righteous. I'm sure your message/guilt trip is going to be absorbed by the denizens of a modding forum. Friendly reminder AT&T is the one getting in the way of letting you do what you want with your device and usage of data in the first place.
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Your ad hominem attack doesn't do anything to make my point less valid. There is a difference between AT&T locking out things like data tethering (which is stupid) and HTC voiding warranties for bootloader unlocking, which is their prerogative. As an electronics manufacturer who incurs cost every time they accept a warranty return, it makes perfect sense to have a system which allows them to track who has unlocked the bootloader.
As a community of modders, I like to think that we all can accept that we are taking the warranty into our own hands when we modify the device in ways it was not intended to be used.
sassafras
I've been trying for a couple weeks to get mine swapped, both because of 1.85 and because of connection problems.. I just called a store and they said to call tomorrow (31st day since purchase) to see if they have any, and that they would be willing to work with the circumstances... But if you are swapping for no other issue I'm not sure how they'll like that.
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So lets say.. (Hypothetically) that a "friend" of mine accidently installed a Sprint ROM (The dragon rom) on his verizon phone, the phone is completely inoperable and doesn't even turn on. like holding on the power button does nill, and trying to put it into download mode yeilds no results as well, would it be possible to play stupid and return the phone to verizon since it's not been two weeks yet since i've had it? or will they catch on that the phone's been tinkered with? any imput would be appreciated. keep the wrist slaps for an obvious mistake to a minimum please I swear i thought it was for the verizon variant lol.
If it wont turn on at all then you should be fine returning it. You should also follow what my sig says
Committing fraud is never good, especially when it's due to stupidity. Sorry OP, it's the truth. Man up and pay to get that JTAGGED by mobile tech videos.
Not everyone has money to throw around. I don't think a new phone replacement is gonna affect a huge corporation all that much.
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Not everyone has money to throw around. I don't think a new phone replacement is gonna affect a huge corporation all that much.
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Yeah but...if you can justify one person...then you can jusity 10,000 people and so on and so forth.
Also if you don't have money to throw around, play it safe and don't do things like the OP.
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If you don't have the money to spend on JTagging, you shouldn't be playing with fire on your rather expensive phone, IMHO.
I have sympathy for the OP's dilemma, but sometimes (depending on the circumstances, need to survive, etc.) we need to accept the consequences of our own actions and seek to avoid abusing policies that seem like part of a generic, abstractly large pot of abundance.
- ooofest
It doesn't affect the corporation, it affects the rest of us as consumers that purchase their products. They make up the loss with price increases. Retail stores do the same thing with stolen merchandise. Raise prices to offset the loss. I agree. Man up. Fraud is fraud and stealing is stealing. Makes no difference who its from. I'd never tell my kids its OK to lie, cheat, and steal as long as its from rich people lol.
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another one bites the dust
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE
droidstyle said:
another one bites the dust
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should have asked OP before you tried. Maybe not on this site because they can be a little harsh on Noobs but the other dozens of sites on the web. If you have insurance on the phone drop it in water pay the deductible and get a new phone.
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Yeah but...if you can justify one person...then you can jusity 10,000 people and so on and so forth.
Also if you don't have money to throw around, play it safe and don't do things like the OP.
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Exactly. You you have to think in the aggregate.
And to be honest, if you have the money to pay for the most expensive carrier and the most expensive phone on said carrier you can probably spare $50-60 to fix your own mistake.
I personally don't think it's fraud.... All Verizon is gonna due is use it as a refurb (and how do you think they get refurbs?) Sometimes a company has to open up BRAND NEW phones to give out as refurbs aka replacements, because I used to work for Nextel, before Sprint ate them up.... I was a tech and I remember having to open up brand new phones just so we had stock for refurbs cause when you release a new phone refurbs are non-existent until months after a release... And Samsung will just fix the phone but that does NOT make up for the part of NOT reading and following the instructions before you flash something... Every mod or rom that I flash I automatically know that if my phone dies it is MY fault cause I am playin with fire but flashing a totally different carriers rom is just plain stupid and I was a noob at one point and I NEVER even thought of flashing something until I read about a million pages of how to's and guides etc. I am not trying to be a **** but why would you think it's okay to flash a Sprint rom on your phone?? You will get a free pass on this one and get a replacement phone but if you do it again than you may want to think about just running stock because I think every noob gets one freebie and this is yours so go get a replacement and READ READ READ and if you can't find your answer than keep READING.... I have never bricked a phone and I guess I am lucky but I certainly have never flashed another carriers rom on my phone either... Just my 2 cents... Good luck and READ! :laugh:
EDIT: I do NOT condone FRAUD!! There are just different ways of looking at what fraud is and I don't think the OP would be committing fraud... imo
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i have to post ten posts to be able to commment on a different thread. <ignore this
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I wouldn't spam the forums like this either, then you won't be able to comment on ANY thread.
Words of wisdom there. ^^^^
Your post was deleted. It really isn't that hard to find threads to put in 10 quality posts.
And so help me if you 11th post (presumably in a Development thread) is a "Thanks for the ROM" or "This ROM is Awesome"
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Words of wisdom there. ^^^^
Your post was deleted. It really isn't that hard to find threads to put in 10 quality posts.
And so help me if you 11th post (presumably in a Development thread) is a "Thanks for the ROM" or "This ROM is Awesome"
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^^^ this comment totally made my day.
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