I have two questions:
A. What is the capability of Android in the area of data encryption such as 128 or 256 bit in regards to complying with corporate IT requirements? I was told that the UGHHH I-pad is alot further along in this area, but there you have it $$$$ for those toys.
B. For Enterprise level Cisco VPN clients used by corporations to portal behind their firewalls for their mobile employees, is Android capable of that level of operation as well.
Trying to get answers for my boss as he wants a tablet to do some things with but these are two big nagging road blocks. any help on these two issues would be greatly appreciated.
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I'm currently evaluating some mobile device management solutions and had a few questions for the wise xda forum goers. I realize that this is primarily a device hacking/development community, but I assumed that surely some people here have some experience with this as an end-user or otherwise.
First and foremost, what recommendations can you guys provide for solutions? I've evaluated six or seven vendors, but I'm leaning toward AirWatch, Good Technologies and BoxTone. I'd really like something with a perpetual license scheme due to the way my organization's finances work. I also want something that won't frustrate my end users, has broad device support and provides security and app distribution functionality.
Does anybody have any test device recommendations? I'm thinking of using an iPod Touch and Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0. I'd imagine you developers could chime in on this. I don't need to test any mobile network functionality with these, just different interactions with the OS and apps. I'm pretty set on the iPod Touch, but I also need an Android test device similar to the iPod Touch and preferably under $300.
I'd appreciate any thoughts on this. I've got a pretty good idea of what I'm looking for, but I was hoping to get some real world insight aside from the vendor references.
P.S.: It's scary what MDM can do. For anybody considering this at their organization, administrative buy-in is key, and make sure you use this power responsibly.
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Mobile Device Management
The mobile phones which were only a calling device earlier have now become a smart business tool. As mobility is increasing it brings with it ample benefits, however at the same time it creates number of new challenges in terms of usage and the data stored on them.
I know everyone has their own ideas about politics. So if you are here to flame away about #OWS please do so in another place (start on FB). I am here as a mobile javascript developer who has been rooting and un-bricking Android phones for over 2 years, and as a supporter of the "cause".
So please flamers and trolls just move on..
There is no reason for me to explain here what #OWS is, and what it's about. Unless you have been living under a rock I think its pretty obvious that we are living in some very "strange times" to say the least. So strange that I am having to actually reach out to the XDA community to ask for help in doing such a project.
I am not a ROM builder, but I do know what's possible and hopefully by being apart of this process with some veteren ROM builders out there I can learn the tricks of the trade myself. Hell, if I don't get a response, then I suppose I will be doing this by myself none the less. But, I have hope that there are others that would see the benefits of this project becoming a reality.
#OWS and many other resistance movements have been infiltrated by government security, intelligence, and police units. This has made the act of coordinating "Actions" almost impossible because of leaks to Twitter, and the use of public message boards. There are actions going on every day in NYC right now as we speak, and this will only increase as we move into Spring and Summer. #OWS is finding that more often the police and security forces are there to meet them in mass force because of a lack of security and encryption practices on #OWS part.
Now, to us.. The idea of TOR and Proxies is not new, but to someone who isn't as technologically inclined as you the idea of a Rooted phone is sometimes hard to grasp. That is why I am looking to start a project like this.
So what's the project? I would like to enable OWS to be able to flash MetroPCS or some other kind of prepaid smart phones with a Rooted ROM and all the Android TOR tools installed. Orbot, Gibberbot, and OrWebV2. A doc will be created to explain basic Jabber client set-up, but we are obviously looking to host our own Jabber Server behind TOR if we can that these devices will eventually be used to connect with.
Please Google: guardianproject orbot
There will be some sort of centralized coordination of Jabber accounts on this server, but that is completely separate from what I am looking to do here. Access to these chat rooms will only be allowed when vetting of the individual has been done. Then and only when the community feels safe will someone be given a login/access to the private server. I want you, to work with me to explore the best method for us to do this. Lets start with US pre-paid, and then work out way to Europe.
There are many uses for TOR and Anonymization (mis?) software for mobile devices. As the threat of SOPA and PIPA and government firewalls continue to hold like gloomy clouds over America's conscious. We know that we must be prepared for when they turn the "internet off". Which they have already done during one protest that was organized by Anonymous. They shut down all cell sites in the BART station where the protest was happening, making coordination with the outside world impossible. The only way we will understand how we can be better prepared, is to start experimenting in the real world now. We can solve these problems. I want to solve them. Do you? We have to start somewhere, and before I and others can dev up a P2P bluetooth relay service of some sorts.. we need to get this done first.
I bet many of you are saying, "Simple beans".. and maybe so. but this simple project could mean the difference of people remaining free and people being in prison. I want guidance, and I would love feedback. This has become one of the most important projects in my life. I hope it may become one of yours.
So, any questions.. if not, then lets get to work and contact me! I would like to deliver this to #OWS by May 1st since I will be in NYC for May 1st General Strike.
Thanks, PM or reply if interested in helping out..
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you are on wrong forum in this forum you will not get more view just send pm to mods he will move to right place
Thanks.. will do. and we got movement on this..
Hi,
I have an ongoing problem. Just getting computer access to write this on a machine that is not hacked is dificult.
I have a very smart and talented member of my household who appears to be tied up with some bad people and I am constantly subject to hardware hacking of all my devices or worse.
The person is the recipent of significent outside help in this process and even devices that had biometric security have been hacked.
It appears that even encrypted devices have been compromised via various root kits. Though it is hard to be sure with the phones as I am not an expert in the Android OS. I can say that on numerous devices ranging from Galaxy Duos 2.2 Android to the latest Tab S 10.5 16GB 4G.
I have managed to stop the computers being compromised by using numerous single boot disks though it is cumbersome having to remember everything.
Right now you are probably tinking "Why does he put up with his crap?". Simple, it is my wife and even though idiot drug dealers have got to her I will not abandon her. I have seen worse in my life and in the end I will get her out of this.
Basically her associates assist her in keep me in the stone age so that I can't use my considerable skills to resolve these matters.
I need a phone setup that can't be hacked even if she has hardware access. I have tried using very dumb handsets but after a chat to Samsung it seems even they have been compromised.
So if anyone has any cunning ideas that can defeat organised crime using non off the shelf hacking software while having hardware access then I am all ears.
I am obviously not saying a lot here for legal reasons. Believe it or not she is the real victim here so please no advice not related to the technical issue.
Kind Regards
Hi,
XDA is not here to get involved in domestic disputes. I'm sorry, but we can't help you on this one.
Thanks, thread closed.
Yes, this is a new thread because the existing ones are focused on the technical debates around why it should or shouldn't work.
I've been following this discussion to some degree and I just couldn't help but jump in. IMO the focus on the technical aspects of this issue are misguided. This is a purely, for lack of a better word, "political" decision.
Here's the thing. You can blather on for days about the supposed technical reasons that Android Pay cannot or should not work in a rooted/ROM'd environment, but the truth is, the state of the host device is nearly irrelevant. Consider this. You can take any Windows, Linux, or Mac PC and login with any level of user privilege you wish and use nearly any browser to access your bank's "secure" account website. There you can do MUCH more financial damage than you could ever do from a mobile payment app given the transaction limits placed on the latter. You can even do this from a pirated, hacked copy of Windows or MacOS with no issue. In fact you can login from a PC with known malware or trojan infections! Given this, anyone trying to make a technical security argument for not supporting mobile payment on rooted devices is either ignorant or lying. This was strictly an arbitrary decision on someone's part. Likely on the banking system's side.
The fact is, an Android phone with a rooted, custom ROM, is at best still a more secure environment than most PC's, at worst it's no less secure. Given the mechanism's in place on Android, it's even easier to verify an apps integrity than on a desktop OS.
So let's throw out all the pointless discussions about the technical issues that make mobile payment on rooted devices impossible. We already know that the banks have accepted much less than a perfectly pristine and secure environment for accessing their systems. Raising the bar for mobile devices was simply a bureaucratic decision, not a technical one.
If you want mobile payment on rooted devices, you'll have to lobby for it. Hard, and hope you can force anther bureaucratic decision in your favour. Even then I wouldn't hold my breath.
Android Pay
Tachyon_1 said:
Yes, this is a new thread because the existing ones are focused on the technical debates around why it should or shouldn't work.
I've been following this discussion to some degree and I just couldn't help but jump in. IMO the focus on the technical aspects of this issue are misguided. This is a purely, for lack of a better word, "political" decision.
Here's the thing. You can blather on for days about the supposed technical reasons that Android Pay cannot or should not work in a rooted/ROM'd environment, but the truth is, the state of the host device is nearly irrelevant. Consider this. You can take any Windows, Linux, or Mac PC and login with any level of user privilege you wish and use nearly any browser to access your bank's "secure" account website. There you can do MUCH more financial damage than you could ever do from a mobile payment app given the transaction limits placed on the latter. You can even do this from a pirated, hacked copy of Windows or MacOS with no issue. In fact you can login from a PC with known malware or trojan infections! Given this, anyone trying to make a technical security argument for not supporting mobile payment on rooted devices is either ignorant or lying. This was strictly an arbitrary decision on someone's part. Likely on the banking system's side.
The fact is, an Android phone with a rooted, custom ROM, is at best still a more secure environment than most PC's, at worst it's no less secure. Given the mechanism's in place on Android, it's even easier to verify an apps integrity than on a desktop OS.
So let's throw out all the pointless discussions about the technical issues that make mobile payment on rooted devices impossible. We already know that the banks have accepted much less than a perfectly pristine and secure environment for accessing their systems. Raising the bar for mobile devices was simply a bureaucratic decision, not a technical one.
If you want mobile payment on rooted devices, you'll have to lobby for it. Hard, and hope you can force anther bureaucratic decision in your favour. Even then I wouldn't hold my breath.
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I've been wondering why I cant get my phone to accept cards on Android Pay. Oddly, it takes a few of my rewards cards, that are not credit cards. But that's not exactly helpful. I'm glad I caught your post on this because I was wondering about it myself. Thank you for your input on the matter. -Jason
I have a private detective business and we have decided to communicate through secure communication devices. So i was looking on the internet and i have found a lot of Blackberry "secure" phones, but the prices are insane for a 6 person business. They want 1500USD per 6 months per phone. That means 18000USD per year.
I have a lot of tech knowledge incl. XDA experience so i was wondering if it is possible to create my own secure blackberry devices with BES12. Or is there an existing ROM which i can upload to a specific BB?
Hope someone can point me to the right way.
Yzord said:
I have a private detective business and we have decided to communicate through secure communication devices. So i was looking on the internet and i have found a lot of Blackberry "secure" phones, but the prices are insane for a 6 person business. They want 1500USD per 6 months per phone. That means 18000USD per year.
I have a lot of tech knowledge incl. XDA experience so i was wondering if it is possible to create my own secure blackberry devices with BES12. Or is there an existing ROM which i can upload to a specific BB?
Hope someone can point me to the right way.
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Hi there,
Thanks for using XDA assist.
Try posting your query over here http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help
Good luck.