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Hi guys most of you might find this question silly but there are some of us newcomers who are still getting into this!
So, I rooted my phone, have ROM Manager and CWM Recovery, version 3 and my question is how we're going to update to official GB when it becomes available? Will we do it through official T-Mobile update, or will some of you guys make it available for us?
Thank you all!
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you should be about to get it either way. If you get the official update you will probably lose root... If you wait a few there will be a rooted version posted by one of the many xda members...
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BobbyDukes707 said:
Yes...
you should be about to get it either way. If you get the official update you will probably lose root... If you wait a few there will be a rooted version posted by one of the many xda members...
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One more dumb question: Why is everybody so excited about the official GB update, when we have right now a few GB leaked versions with some custom ROMs (Bionix from TeamWhiskey, etc... ) available, for which as I hear, many say are excellent? Is this official one gonna be better in any significant way than these custom already out? Thanks! )
krekabl said:
One more dumb question: Why is everybody so excited about the official GB update, when we have right now a few GB leaked versions with some custom ROMs (Bionix from TeamWhiskey, etc... ) available, for which as I hear, many say are excellent? Is this official one gonna be better in any significant way than these custom already out? Thanks! )
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It will come with an official GB kernel and hopefully updated battery drivers and A2DP functionality...Amongst other LG fixes (again, hopefully).
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It will come with an official GB kernel and hopefully updated battery drivers and A2DP functionality...Amongst other LG fixes (again, hopefully).
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OK, I get it... So, all these unofficial GBs are sort of limited because they lack these LG stuff they're (hopefully) putting into the official one. That's why it's smart to wait a bit more.
Hopefully it will fix most or all the problems.
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krekabl said:
OK, I get it... So, all these unofficial GBs are sort of limited because they lack these LG stuff they're (hopefully) putting into the official one. That's why it's smart to wait a bit more.
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Yes, that's the case. The leak has issues (which makes sense, it's not a finished build), and almost all Gingerbread mods are based on the leak so they have the same issues. I know CM7 is using the Gingerbread source instead and has fixed a lot of the issues, but not all of them.
The official update is not only going to be completely stable (hopefully) but will come bundled with better drivers/kernel support which will fix most of the common issues with the phone (hopefully).
I've gone through an Over The Air update to Android before, and if it's like what I experienced, you're going to get a pop-up that asks if you want to update now or later. Choose later if you want to keep root, someone here will have the official build rooted probably within the hour but definitely within the first couple of days.
In the mean time though, don't be scared of trying out one of the ROMs that are available. I swear by CM7, but I've heard wonderful things about EagleBlood and Ultimate too.
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Yes, that's the case. The leak has issues (which makes sense, it's not a finished build), and almost all Gingerbread mods are based on the leak so they have the same issues. I know CM7 is using the Gingerbread source instead and has fixed a lot of the issues, but not all of them.
The official update is not only going to be completely stable (hopefully) but will come bundled with better drivers/kernel support which will fix most of the common issues with the phone (hopefully).
I've gone through an Over The Air update to Android before, and if it's like what I experienced, you're going to get a pop-up that asks if you want to update now or later. Choose later if you want to keep root, someone here will have the official build rooted probably within the hour but definitely within the first couple of days.
In the mean time though, don't be scared of trying out one of the ROMs that are available. I swear by CM7, but I've heard wonderful things about EagleBlood and Ultimate too.
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I have heard that official updating the rooted phone could actually brick it? And when a mod is nightly version, does it mean it it not completely stable? I am interested in CM7, but I could not find a stable version on their site.
Thanks!
i have question also since it's related to thread title. i'm running stock right now but rooted. once i update to gingerbread cm7, will i have to install all apps and settings all over? and will call log and stuff like that disappear also?
dn3g3l said:
i have question also since it's related to thread title. i'm running stock right now but rooted. once i update to gingerbread cm7, will i have to install all apps and settings all over? and will call log and stuff like that disappear also?
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You should be able to get all of that stuff after startup my hitting the square boxes in the initial setup. Worked for me yesterday with the Eagleblood 2.3.4 ROM, when someone recommended it to me rather than Titaniumbackup which screwed up my phone a lot because I went from Froyo to GB
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i have question also since it's related to thread title. i'm running stock right now but rooted. once i update to gingerbread cm7, will i have to install all apps and settings all over? and will call log and stuff like that disappear also?
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When I did an OTA update, it kept all of my apps and settings. I can't remember if it preserved call log.
I have heard that official updating the rooted phone could actually brick it? And when a mod is nightly version, does it mean it it not completely stable? I am interested in CM7, but I could not find a stable version on their site.
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I don't know if it will brick or not, my OTA was not rooted. And CM7 nightlies are NOT completely stable, but they're on build 58 by now and the ROM works perfectly fine. The only issue I can see with the phone is the top bar they added to the notifications menu that has toggle-able settings like WIFI, GPS, etc sometimes doesn't show up and in the camera, it calls both cameras "back" instead of one being "front".
But if you're concerned with stability that much, use the leak or EagleBlood.
Is there any flashable Stock T-Mobile roms around?
xamadeix said:
Is there any flashable Stock T-Mobile roms around?
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if you mean any custom roms that are based of the tmous stock rom? then not yet.
if you have a custom rom on and need to flash to original you can always do a nandroid restore of that rom
if you need the RUU for whatever reason get it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559 the latest tmous is the 8th one down
going back to stock myself just can't handle random reboots and poor data connections
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going back to stock myself just can't handle random reboots and poor data connections
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what rom did you flash that this occured?
i havent flashed any roms yet since im waiting to see if there is one created based on the sensation4g stock rom. plus the stock with no bloat has been wonderful for me so far.
i'm gonna wait another week as the devs should have their roms/kernels updated a few times with bug fixes then im gonna try and flash then.
best bet is to ruu back to stock with the link posted above. gives you stock tmo rom with the original bootloader only s-off. from there you can root and run stock rooted and debloat yourself.
I'm about to get the sensation. Is the stock rom pretty good with a simple debloat?
ciaphuas said:
I'm about to get the sensation. Is the stock rom pretty good with a simple debloat?
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yes it is theres nothing wrong with stock just need a few tweaks and polish
piimp said:
what rom did you flash that this occured?
i havent flashed any roms yet since im waiting to see if there is one created based on the sensation4g stock rom. plus the stock with no bloat has been wonderful for me so far.
i'm gonna wait another week as the devs should have their roms/kernels updated a few times with bug fixes then im gonna try and flash then.
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Android revolution hd, yea im stock minus bloat now waiting for a kernel so I can oc
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cpittman said:
best bet is to ruu back to stock with the link posted above. gives you stock tmo rom with the original bootloader only s-off. from there you can root and run stock rooted and debloat yourself.
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Yeah debloat yourself. Sorry just sounds funny. Ok with that said, its always handy to have the stock Rom around when you need it.
vdub804 said:
Android revolution hd, yea im stock minus bloat now waiting for a kernel so I can oc
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Ok so i couldn't wait anymore, had to flash...flashed leedroid as its the most close to stock that I c...its pretty nice and as fast if not faster than debloated stock...no random reboots over here or anything like dat..plus the added tweaks n wut not r a bonus
Maybe u could try a lee's ROM or any other n c if u like them
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here you go bud
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1200425
I want to go back to GB as I'm not satisfied with the ICS ROMs I've tried (only had this phone a few weeks). Dev board is flooded with ICS, any GB suggestions?
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I highly reccomend Oxygen, only problem I ever had with it was sending and recieving mms. Other than that I say it is lightening fast and stable.
Were you able to fix the mms issue?
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i'd say BrainMaster's MIUI 2.3.7 ROM , i was running it before i updated to ICS
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i'd say BrainMaster's MIUI 2.3.7 ROM , i was running it before i updated to ICS
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Should have mentioned I want everything to work including 4g.
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Try .CIBERGR-MOD 's GB version. It's a fast rom. Although, I'm not sure if he has a NS4G version.
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Peter Alfonso's GPA19 ROM is the most stable one that I tried. Look for Peter Alfonso's site and click the Downloads link for crespo. I would post a link here, but XDA's nonsense won't allow it.
Download the 12-07-11 one to get the latest GB version. There aren't a lot of customizations like CM, Oxygen, MIUI, etc., but it's stable as hell. The latest Oxygen (2.3.2) has a REALLY obnoxious, and largely ignored, backlight notification bug where you have to reboot to get the lights to go out... only way I've ever found to fix it is to install another kernel. However, Peter Alfonso's got one of those too... just go to his site and it should be on the second page of the "blog."
I know you said you didn't like ICS, and I didn't either at first, but Pete's ICS ROMs are also great and very stable. The latest is 01-30-12, and you can get it from the same crespo download page.
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hey man i got a question, could i use peter alfonso's rooted stock rom for gingerbread (right?) when downgrading, right? instead of re rooting it.
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Peter Alfonso's GPA19 ROM is the most stable one that I tried. Look for Peter Alfonso's site and click the Downloads link for crespo. I would post a link here, but XDA's nonsense won't allow it.
Download the 12-07-11 one to get the latest GB version. There aren't a lot of customizations like CM, Oxygen, MIUI, etc., but it's stable as hell. The latest Oxygen (2.3.2) has a REALLY obnoxious, and largely ignored, backlight notification bug where you have to reboot to get the lights to go out... only way I've ever found to fix it is to install another kernel. However, Peter Alfonso's got one of those too... just go to his site and it should be on the second page of the "blog."
I know you said you didn't like ICS, and I didn't either at first, but Pete's ICS ROMs are also great and very stable. The latest is 01-30-12, and you can get it from the same crespo download page.
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Loaded up the 01-30-12 ICS this morning since that would be the easiest transition. Using Apex and so far, so good. Thanks!
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I'm currently running Euroskank CM7 kangs.
Wow, really. I don't have any ICS envy seeing how sweet those kangs are. They're smooth as butter and stable too! Checking my phone, my current uptime is 132 hours (5.5 days) since my last reboot, which was to flash the latest kang back then.
allenxx said:
hey man i got a question, could i use peter alfonso's rooted stock rom for gingerbread (right?) when downgrading, right? instead of re rooting it.
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I'm not exactly sure what you're asking. Both of his ROMs are pre-rooted, so no, you won't have to re-/root anything. But since you're going from ICS to GB you'll have to wipe everything, so there's no real "downgrade" path.
From a rooting perspective, the only difference I've noticed, that's kind of annoying, is that his GB ROM contains busybox and his ICS ROM doesn't. It's not a deal-breaker since there are Market apps to add it in, but it's kind of annoying that the binary has to be re-linked after each update/flash.
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I'm not exactly sure what you're asking. Both of his ROMs are pre-rooted, so no, you won't have to re-/root anything. But since you're going from ICS to GB you'll have to wipe everything, so there's no real "downgrade" path.
From a rooting perspective, the only difference I've noticed, that's kind of annoying, is that his GB ROM contains busybox and his ICS ROM doesn't. It's not a deal-breaker since there are Market apps to add it in, but it's kind of annoying that the binary has to be re-linked after each update/flash.
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Im asking that if i can reverted back to gingerbread version without loosing root, may i install his pre-rooted stock without loosing root. Thats all, but since you mentioned it, im relived to revert it back. but i couldnt find his link could you provide me one? Also is it regular to flash it back to gb or is there a special method to do it?
I can't post links yet because our fine friends at XDA say that I need to post more for the privilege. Pfft.
You should be able to type peter alfonso downloads crespo and get to the page. 12-07-11 is the latest GB version (GPA19).
There's no "special" method for flashing, just do what you would do when going from one incompatible ROM to another... wipe data/factory reset, format cache partition, format /system, wipe dalvik cache. There are probably a million different combinations that different people will give you for the proper install, but that's what I normally do.
Tryout CyberGR's CM7 MOD and you won't go back:
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Just read the feedback in the thread and you'll understand.
perfect, and uh before i do that it could be any rooted gb rom right? just curious, that's all.
Don't mean to hijack the thread but what if I wanted to put a custom GB ROM on top of stock GB rom. I'm curious if you can just flash without wiping? Or should I do titanium backup instead?
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I can't post links yet because our fine friends at XDA say that I need to post more for the privilege. Pfft.
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you have only 5 posts and complaining ? I wonder when you hit 100+ post what would you do ? if you don't like the forums why you're here ?
calisoldier83 said:
Don't mean to hijack the thread but what if I wanted to put a custom GB ROM on top of stock GB rom. I'm curious if you can just flash without wiping? Or should I do titanium backup instead?
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Wipe.
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I just put on the Peter Alfonso rom, it's super fast. Well probably keep this until official ics is released.
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guys im thinking of finally updating to gingerbread because some apps are requiring that os .... my questions are :
if im rooted can i still just press the update button from the notification menu?
2. should i be doing that ? a lot of posts online complain about this update so is it worth it? could i be better off flashing a gingerbread based custom rom from this website?
3. is there a backup process to make sure i can go back to froyo if the need arises?
thanks
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If you are rooted you should not update the phone using the button. I don't think it will work anyways. If you want stock gingerbread there are plenty on here. In my sig, Juicy has a stable, fast, yet great on battery 2.52 Gingerbread with sense 2.5. It is version R2. There are more advanced sense 3.0 and 3.5 ROMs out there too. Both highly modified and looking like a stock ROM.
okay ... so i will just keep ignoring that button i guess...
thabks for the help
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oik01 said:
okay ... so i will just keep ignoring that button i guess...
thabks for the help
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Why? You might as well just put a better rom on there it's a lot better anyway
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oik01 said:
guys im thinking of finally updating to gingerbread because some apps are requiring that os .... my questions are :
if im rooted can i still just press the update button from the notification menu?
2. should i be doing that ? a lot of posts online complain about this update so is it worth it? could i be better off flashing a gingerbread based custom rom from this website?
3. is there a backup process to make sure i can go back to froyo if the need arises?
thanks
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The update worked well for me and found no bugs when I did it, but It all depends on what you do with your cell. Custom Roms are all beta versions, that means that they all have bugs but most are very smooth and stable and have many tweaks to play with that you won´t find out in the stock gb update.
If you run the update, you will loose the root access, so you will have to run the hack kit again. You can also flash the rooted version of that RUU that is in the general section under the thread Stock Roms...is the Gene Pole's one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1385016
Make a nandroid backup with the Rom Manager or 4EXT recovery (the one you are using) and in case you don't like the update go can restore it...hope it helps.
glevitan said:
Custom Roms are all beta versions
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Actually, no. Unless you consider a ROM built off of an official RUU as being beta.
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Actually, no. Unless you consider a ROM built off of an official RUU as being beta.
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What I actually meant is that are not offical and bugs are solved on the run as reported by users...I have been using most of the roms in the forum and are awesome...I won´t go back to stock again again, but you have to know what you are doing and what to expect...
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Actually, no. Unless you consider a ROM built off of an official RUU as being beta.
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Actually yes. All roms posted here are considered beta. This is due to the face that every custom rom changes some coding in the OS or kernel. Only non beta roms are stock roms.
Sorry, my understanding of a beta version is one that is still undergoing testing prior to the official release. Since these ROMs will never see an official release, I don't consider the ones made off of an official RUU as beta. Just my opinion.
Seems like everyone was complaining, saying the OTA was never coming and now that it is here they are complaining again. Why would you want to go back to stock, just so you can get the official release when it is for sure filled with a bunch of things you don't want or need (apps bloatware) then you are going to root it and go flash a custom ROM anyways. I am on Energy GB ROM and I am really hesitant to flash to ICS because this ROM works so well. When I was stock I would get restarts, Sense would constantly reload and a bunch of other things. I don't want to have to flash a ROM then flash a bunch of fixes after just to make it stable just to have ICS on my device. Sorry just wanted to make a few points. If anyone could post some key features of the Official OTA ICS Update and why it would be better than a custom ROM I would appreciate it.
Final question. How many of you reverted back to stock just get the OTA and what is so cool about it?
I am wondering the same thing.. what does stock OTA ICS have over custom roms?
The only two things I can think of is (1) keeping warranty, and (2) more stability since it's an official update
A lot of times the custom roms are more stable. The GB rom I am running is a lot smoother and more stable than when I got my sensation out of the box.
I agree, on stock I would be having the device reboot all the time! Drove me Crazy!
On my custom Rom, it has NEVER done that! So I say pass on the update also! I'm running Android 4.0.3 now with custom rom, why ruin a good thing i say!
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Here's one reason: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26117743
It's not always that people are looking to apply the stock rom, but sometimes what pieces they can get from it.
LOL, good point but besides working wifi calling.
my Wi-Fi calling is working on my custom Rom, as is camera, hotspot, tethering ect. I've checked them all. I'm greatful all working! These developers are Genius! I am soo thankful for them!
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realsis said:
my Wi-Fi calling is working on my custom Rom, as is camera, hotspot, tethering ect. I've checked them all. I'm greatful all working! These developers are Genius! I am soo thankful for them!
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How do you compare the camera on the stock GB compared to the camera on your ROM now.I love the amaze camera mod on this NRG ROM.
I myself had actually considered reverting back to stock from sensation 4g running virtuous 4.02 ics, but that was only so I could get my WiFi calling back, and to see if it was any more stable..... But then I realized that since I flashed Virtuous Inquisition, I haven't had ANY problems at all, and now there's a fix for WiFi calling, so I can't imagine why I would go back to stock. Phew, I'm glad I came to my SENSEs before doing something I probably would ended up regretting, and then spending time to have to revert and re-root.
Custom roms ain't all they're cracked up to be. Too many issues. I'm on stock and rooted and it works just fine. I don't see what's so great about custom roms. Eye candy? Custom boot animations? I would rather have stability and reliability.
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Custom roms ain't all they're cracked up to be. Too many issues. I'm on stock and rooted and it works just fine. I don't see what's so great about custom roms. Eye candy? Custom boot animations? I would rather have stability and reliability.
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I think that it's not as much about the eyecandy, so to speak, but more to do with the fine tuning and tweaks available in the custom roms that you just can't get with stock. There's nothing wrong with anyone leaning one way or the other, just a matter of preference and of what you use the phone for.