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I got a new orbit 2 a few days ago, only to be dissapointed about the web browser capabilities.
I tried opera, but dont like how the fit to screen option distorts the page and desktop option makes the page become massive and difficult to navigate.
Also, is there anyway way of watching online videos SMOOTHLY?
The flash plugin works but its really choppy.
Not sure whether ill be keeping the upgrade, taking offers for it.
The choppy video is probably because of the driver issues (you can read more about it in the forums if you search a little)
And did you get opera 8.5 bundled with your phone? Opera 9.5 is much smoother and better looking than the 8.5 version (imo), and i'll suggest you try upgrading to it to see if there is any difference.
I watched the video regarding Opera 9.5 but its still not released, and by the looks of what I gathered from other forums, people are becoming impatient.
Im currently using Opera 8.65 and no it wasnt bundled with my phone.
So will those driver issues fix the choppy video playback?.
Normal videos saved to the device work fine its just the online ones that use a flash applet like dailymotion
Try Skyfire (you'll have to sign up for it), is really amazing, is very fast and smooth
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I got a new orbit 2 a few days ago, only to be dissapointed about the web browser capabilities.
I tried opera, but dont like how the fit to screen option distorts the page and desktop option makes the page become massive and difficult to navigate.
Also, is there anyway way of watching online videos SMOOTHLY?
The flash plugin works but its really choppy.
Not sure whether ill be keeping the upgrade, taking offers for it.
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Need to do some more research on it before you get it I guess.
Anyways, CorePlayer, TCMP player all play videos fine.
ALL browsers are FINE and work great for different things.
I myself use pocket IE for sites that are in mobile format, and opera 9.5 "beta" for sites that are not in mobile format. I would use opera mobile if it wouldn't install over my 9.5, instead of pocket IE, but all my text based sites work fine in pocket IE (ebay, paypal, howardforums, flickr, youtube, etc)
I don't really know who watches youtube videos or other internet based videos via their browser, I've always seen them being watched through TCMP, CorePlayer, WMP streaming or HTC streaming media.
There are no official driver updates coming.
I am unsure as to the technology that Dailymotion uses, but if it's youtube based then you should have no problems.
I think you are looking for a desktop in a pocketpc, which no one has quite yet. Maybe an HTC advantage, who knows.
Doesnt matter what phone you have, all software will run the same if the devices were made in the same time frame.
Oh and I assume orbit 2 is in Europe somewhere? None the less, Skyfire is available to U.S. numbers only apparently for it's beta. Maybe NetFront would work for you, try that. I hated it.
thegr8one23 said:
I got a new orbit 2 a few days ago, only to be dissapointed about the web browser capabilities.
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Have you tried Opera Mini? Their new beta v4.1 can be downloaded and really works great. My favorite browser so far.
try opera with limit paragraph on. that's amazing.
Opera 9 (beta) is working really well, especially for a beta. Panning in web pages is pretty smooth most of the time and as the above poster said, with limit paragraph on, reading articles on news sites, etc is doable.
The negatives are it is a beta so bugs here and there. Other issues are the touch keyboards (numbers only) don't work and neither does pocketCM (space between every character). I don't believe there is flash support in the browser either.
I use PIE for youtube/flashbundle combo.
whats flash bundle?
do a search on it. it allows you to watch videos from sites like youtube (the real youtube not the mobile version of it). those sites use flash video and the flashbundle is a plugin for PIE that enables that functionality in PIE.
I have the flash 7 plugin, is that the same thing?
Whenever i try and load the non-mobile version of u-tube on PIE,
The whole phone just crashes and i have to take the battery out!
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The whole phone just crashes and i have to take the battery out!
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You know there is a little round hole on the bottom of the device next to the USB called the 'Reset Hole"??? Put the stylus in it and you won't have to get the battery out....
Just search for TCMP and FlashVideoBundle cab files and install them.
When you go to youtube.com and watch a vdieo, it will give you an option of saving or playing the video. It uses the true youtube video not some crappy mobile version as said before, and it's really smooth. I watch cartoons and shows that way that i can't get on my tv, it's a life saver. really great quality and resolution for my cruise.
Try NetFront 3.5 for the ultimate web experience on a phone It's a class of it's own
You can get it here.
http://www.access-company.com/products/netfrontmobile/browser/35_wm_tp.html
Picsel browser is fast and smooth and does a nice job of re-formatting, also reads .PDF files and a bunch of other things
Opera mini 4.1 is very good for browsing although I don't like the way you input web addresses, and lack of file save features.
And for tabbed browsing newest Opera or Pieplus
briggs81 said:
Just search for TCMP and FlashVideoBundle cab files and install them.
When you go to youtube.com and watch a vdieo, it will give you an option of saving or playing the video. It uses the true youtube video not some crappy mobile version as said before, and it's really smooth. I watch cartoons and shows that way that i can't get on my tv, it's a life saver. really great quality and resolution for my cruise.
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Does that solely only play Youtube?. or can it play other online video's too like Veoh and Megavideo and Toudo etc. etc.
I looked at that picsel browser, couldnt find a download link though ..
I love netfront 3.5 The site rendering on the pda is perfect.
Just try it but be do it quick as the concept version will stop 31 may 2008
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Does that solely only play Youtube?. or can it play other online video's too like Veoh and Megavideo and Toudo etc. etc.
I looked at that picsel browser, couldnt find a download link though ..
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If the player on the page is based on Flash then possibly yes...
I just installed Flash 7 and it hosed my PIE. Froze the phone and had to soft reset. Could not view any page with flash content. I uninstalled and I'm back to being able to view with TCPMP. So basically flash 7 is not compatible with PIE... I was thinking about trying it with Opera Mini but didn't even get that far. Is Flash 7 necessary with Opera Mini or Opera 9.5?
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I just installed Flash 7 and it hosed my PIE. Froze the phone and had to soft reset. Could not view any page with flash content. I uninstalled and I'm back to being able to view with TCPMP. So basically flash 7 is not compatible with PIE... I was thinking about trying it with Opera Mini but didn't even get that far. Is Flash 7 necessary with Opera Mini or Opera 9.5?
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Not sure what the fascination is with playing YouTube thru the browser. I am not a real big YouTube user but I find that vTap is more than sufficient at playing whatever it is I need.
http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/04/29/skyfire-2-0-for-android-launching-today/
The way they do flash is a pretty neat idea. Heh. =)
It is back up on the Market, you can download it there.
someone try hulu -- i can't do it myself at the moment and i'm curious to see how it works(if at all)
Just tested it. Gotta say.
It's bad.
The pinch to zoom is horrible and I don't care if they can play flash. I'll wait for Froyo. Lol. Stock browser seems to be the best for me so far. Haha.
chowlala said:
Just tested it. Gotta say.
It's bad.
The pinch to zoom is horrible and I don't care if they can play flash. I'll wait for Froyo. Lol. Stock browser seems to be the best for me so far. Haha.
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I agree, not running the way it does on the HD2. I will wait till the official beta release of flash 10.1 mobile!
It's nice, and playing flash is great, but it's pretty choppy.
I'll stick with Fennec for now, I can wait for an official Flash release.
Haven't tried pinch zoom, but flash playback worked flawless for me on tmo 3g. loaded up thedailyshow.com and was able to watch a full episode without an issue
Why don't they have this running like it was on my T-Mobile Dash 3G? This is garbage. No flash in the browser. Only flash videos. For example, Strong Bad Emails loads up on my Dash as it would on my PC, but with Skyfire for Android, all I get are those damn boxes with question marks in them. This is a huge let down. Not at all what I expected from Skyfire. As far as I'm concerned, this is fail. Especially with true Flash support around the corner from Adobe. Skyfire had a chance to beat them to the punch here, and they failed. Embarrassing if you ask me.
Doesn't seem to work with all flash videos but its still pretty quick. Anyone know of a good way to test this cloud speed compared to any other browser?
After trying it out for a few minutes i figured out that it does load most videos. I cant check hulu since im a canuck thought. sometimes you simply need to refresh the page and it will find the video. i also found that if you load up the video and it just shows a white box it will always freeze at 25%. This is easily fixed by backing out and reloading the video. Whenever i saw a screenshot of the video while it loaded, it always loaded full.
sites tried and all worked.
crackberry.com
ign.com
xvideos.com ( hey... its strickly educational!)
I cannot actually tell whether this is using the cloud as claimed or not.
For example, using opera mini and visiting what's my ip will show an Opera ip confirming that your days is traveling via opera and is bring compressed etc.
Skyfire doesn't - it shows my ip and renders almost identical to the stock browser. Pages do seem to load a but quicker but that could just be because I'm expecting them to.
maybe I'll run netstat and see whether skyfire actually connects to a skyfire server when rendering a normal page..
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I cannot actually tell whether this is using the cloud as claimed or not.
For example, using opera mini and visiting what's my ip will show an Opera ip confirming that your days is traveling via opera and is bring compressed etc.
Skyfire doesn't - it shows my ip and renders almost identical to the stock browser. Pages do seem to load a but quicker but that could just be because I'm expecting them to.
maybe I'll run netstat and see whether skyfire actually connects to a skyfire server when rendering a normal page..
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No need, I can tell you the answer:
All web pages/normal browsing is done on the device, and is rendered using webkit, and not through a proxy, a la Opera. This is the same reason videos can't be displayed inline. The only time the cloud is used is for transcoding video. If you were to watch a netstat while watching a flash video, you'd see your device connecting to Skyfire's servers.
No need, I can tell you the answer:
All web pages/normal browsing is done on the device, and is rendered using webkit, and not through a proxy, a la Opera. This is the same reason videos can't be displayed inline. The only time the cloud is used is for transcoding video. If you were to watch a netstat while watching a flash video, you'd see your device connecting to Skyfire's servers.
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That's pretty crap. One of Skyfire's attractions was that it worked like Opera Mini but rendered pages better. If its just the stock browser essentially with the ability to watch flash videos then it's of little value.
Lame D:
Keep in mind its still beta, it will get better.
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That's pretty crap. One of Skyfire's attractions was that it worked like Opera Mini but rendered pages better. If its just the stock browser essentially with the ability to watch flash videos then it's of little value.
Lame D:
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In my opinion, it doesn't work any worse than the stock browser, so it's still worth using. You're still getting the ability to watch flash videos(which has worked well in my experience), plus you get sleeker tabbed browsing and easy user agent switching right in the toolbar.
The only Flash Video I have been able to get to play are the ones on the sites pre-bookmarked on the Stock Skyfire Homepage. When it doesn't work, I get the Video popup, click on it. The video loads, looks like it starts to buffer and then, instead of playing it reads something to the effect of, Content not available for your device. We're sorry for the Inconvenience.
I haven't tested a lot of sites but no Hulu, no YouPorn, and worst of all, no Sirius Satellite Radio, like i could do on WinMo a year ago.
On the plus side, its nice to have the full Google Voice site available on the phone and Google Wave seems to be rendering nicely.
Great start, flash works good for me on tmo 3g. Videos look great. Rendering is good and quick. Like others said pinch to zoom needs work, but this is now my second favorite browser behind HTC sense browser.
I tested
IGN - Works
Gametrailers - Doesnt
Espn - Works
Facebook - Doesnt
thedailyshow - works
Abc.com - Works! (watching full episode of better off ted !)
Worldstarhiphop - Works
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Great start, flash works good for me on tmo 3g. Videos look great. Rendering is good and quick. Like others said pinch to zoom needs work, but this is now my second favorite browser behind HTC sense browser.
I tested
IGN - Works
Gametrailers - Doesnt
Espn - Works
Facebook - Doesnt
thedailyshow - works
Abc.com - Works!
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Yeah, I tried it on the daily show as well, and it worked great. Due to the way this is set up, it'd be impossible for them to cover every site. I noticed they do have a 'report non-working video' option in the menu, so people may want to try using that to help improve the service.
I noticed that you can pinch to zoom and with two fingers still on the screen you can scoll around the page.
Sometimes whilst surfing the net i like to listen to Youtube while using another webpage to surf at the same time,trying to do this on my Asus but it shuts down the sound immediatley.
Is there a workaround available for me to listen to Youtube while surfing?
I assume you're using the stock broswer, and switching tabs? That's weird - and unfortunate - behaviour, as I like to do the same thing (though I haven't got my Transformer just yet).
Did you try maybe using the youtube app while browsing with the browser? It probably won't work, but it is worth a shot.
I don't have my TF in front of me, but did you try using youtube in browser instead of the app? I know the app sound shuts off, but its worth a try.
Yeah i've tried both ways and also tried using Firefox and Dolphin browsers but they all cut the sound out when you open up another tab.
Hasn't anybody else experienced this?
I have. I watch a lot of Flash live streaming (StarCraft 2 live streams), and every time I want to check IRC, I have to close the browser, which causes the Flash process to freeze. The same thing applies to the YouTube app. This is by design, and I cannot think of any way to fix it.
Really unfortunate, tbh.
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Hasn't anybody else experienced this?
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Yes, i have as well. The tablet doesn't do true multitasking as would a desktop pc. You can't have two tabs open that are actually streaming information at the same time.
I like to play music from one tab and work in another just like you, and the TF won't do this. It's like with the ipad or iphone, they don't actually multitask, they sort of freeze your apps until you open them again.
yea. noticed that yesterday...
sucks.
opened youtube to listen to a song, opened a second tab for guitartabs..
when i switched to the tabs..sound muted.
wtf transformer. transform your ass into a good buy..lol
turbulent28 said:
yea. noticed that yesterday...
sucks.
opened youtube to listen to a song, opened a second tab for guitartabs..
when i switched to the tabs..sound muted.
wtf transformer. transform your ass into a good buy..lol
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I don't believe its a transformer thing, thats Honeycomb.
Well if pandora can stream music in he background it is the apps doing. The developer designed the app that way so the app will not eat the batt and the cpu cycles when left open.
Otherwise a user would need to remember to close youtube correctly with an exit button or suffer a dead batt or slow tab.
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As previously mentioned, this is by design. I don't think that will change. These devices are meant to conserve power while giving good performance. Why waste it decoding video when it is not being watched? The device does do true multitasking so a browser of this nature is certainly possible. Music will play in the background just not video.
The flash layer hibernates when it's no longer in the foreground. It's by design.
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I don't believe its a transformer thing, thats Honeycomb.
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Ya, its battery management.
Ask in dev forum if someone can make an app to play youtube in background.
There is a post in the Xoom forums where is works with a particular browser and HC 3.1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13916886&postcount=68
I was streaming the "This is my Next Podcast" in a browser tab (Dolphin Browser HD) switching between tabs and apps with no problems yesterday. Maybe it's a settings issue, though I never made any significant changes so I don't know what it would be. I do use a desktop user agent... hmm, I'll try it again to make sure it wasn't an anomoly.
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Yep, doing it right now. Running .13 w/ Dolphin HD Browser.
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It must just depend on the player, some flash content may just be a no go.
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Skype works
I can confirm that xformer can multi-task no problem, but seems to be dependent on the app. E.g. Skype works fine. I can have a video call going in the background, the other party can see me and we can keep talking, while I can go to home screen, fire up the browser and start surfing. Does not work for Youtube. via the app or the browser's built-in. In fact the browser (built-in) itself seems incapable, i.e. anything running on the browser shuts down, if the task is switched away. This also applies to tabs, i.e. if I fire up two tabs at the same time loading content, only the tab on focus continues to load, while the other ones go on a "paused" state. I haven't checked with Opera Mobile (flash is dead slow on any browser other than the built-in one), so I hardly use Opera Mobile.
I think pandora works in the bg as well. But I wasn't able to get the music player going on the background. I haven't tried Amazon mp3 player in the bg yet.
My2c.
It seems like every video I have tried to pull up recently has been "blocked for mobile devices". It has mostly been music videos, but what is the purpose of this? Other than to keep the RIAA happy? Sorry for the rant, but it's really gotten under my skin as of late because this used to never be a problem.
/rant off
This is only a problem with the Youtube app. And as for why they block them on mobile, who's to say. Could be a RIAA thing, most likely yeah. But my suggestion is to say screw the app altogether. Set your browser to use desktop config and basically go to the regular www.youtube.com page and watch your video using flash. It can be a bit laggy depending on ads etc, but for the most part its better quality and there is no blocking for mobile this way.
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This is only a problem with the Youtube app. And as for why they block them on mobile, who's to say. Could be a RIAA thing, most likely yeah. But my suggestion is to say screw the app altogether. Set your browser to use desktop config and basically go to the regular www.youtube.com page and watch your video using flash. It can be a bit laggy depending on ads etc, but for the most part its better quality and there is no blocking for mobile this way.
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I think you can blame the app developers that make youtube apps that violate youtubes term of service because they allow you to download or rip mp3's from the videos.
Can't you just set your browser to desktop and use youtube.com?
Sounds more like a problem with VEVO, IMHO.
They won't even let you link most of their stuff. I'm pretty sure that Google's purchase has zero effect, especially considering how long ago Google took over YouTube.
I could be wrong, I just assumed( I know it's not good to assume) based on the fact I never really had an issue until recently.
It's kind of funny you posted this as I used to have this problem all the time. However only a few months ago Google stated all videos could be accessed from an android device from now on (don't remember the exact article) but ever since EVERY video I have looked up has played with the youtube app in HD over 4g.
So I am happy to say I have yet to have a problem at least since I switched from my Incredible to my Thunderbolt
Did you try using a browser instead of the app?
I haven't recently, but I will next time I have the issue and see if it resolves my problem. I was thinking I tried this before to no avail, but I could be wrong.
Also worth giving a shot is clearing the app cache. It may not be an issue with the content but rather an uncleared error that gets called upon on specific content.
Settings/Applications/manage Applications/YouTube/clear cache.
Turn off the phone (don't just reboot) and see if it makes a difference. Also, let us know if that does work.
Does anyone have a problem when using your browser to watch YouTube for some reason I cant anymore I have to switch to mobile version to view YouTube now
The music industry prohibits youtube from allowing users to watch their videos on the mobile app. It's the agreement youtube have with the record companies. This has nothing to do with Google purchasing youtube. Beside google purchased youtube 5 years ago.
If you want to watch that content then watch it through the browser. You must be on the desktop version of youtube and not the mobile youtube website.
I find it funny how you can just change your UA string in the browser and still watch those videos..
Hello, can the Note PRO 12.2 handles four computationally intensive apps running concurrently in four separate windows without lag?
When I loaded 3 videos at the same time and 1 web browser, they all played with no lag whatsoever and web browsing was smooth. When I had initially opened Facebook, 2 web browsers, and YouTube video playing, there were only slight micro stutters when scrolling web pages, but this subsided after a minute. For my NotePro to completely lag, I have to have 4 multiwindows open, as well as 4 pen windows all at the same time.
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When I loaded 3 videos at the same time and 1 web browser, they all played with no lag whatsoever and web browsing was smooth. When I had initially opened Facebook, 2 web browsers, and YouTube video playing, there were only slight micro stutters when scrolling web pages, but this subsided after a minute. For my NotePro to completely lag, I have to have 4 multiwindows open, as well as 4 pen windows all at the same time.
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Thanks. The performance sounds good. How about having 4 concurrent videos or 4 concurrent graphically-intensive 3D games?
Why you don't just look at some benchmarks? I don't see any reason why anybody need to run 4 graphical intensive games at the same time. What do you try to find out? What are you going to do with the tablet?
Performance is very good for normal usage, normal in my case would be watching a video at the same time I'm composing an email and looking at a website, perhaps with a chat app open. I guess you can try playing two 1080ps and a benchmark and see how it goes.
To me the worst is not the performance, but the fact that you can't add any app you want to the multiwindow, only a very small subset of "certified apps".
Is there a list of apps that work and don't work?
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To me the worst is not the performance, but the fact that you can't add any app you want to the multiwindow, only a very small subset of "certified apps".
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Using the app mw-pen app enabler (play store) I was able to add most apps that I wanted. Slingplayer and a few others would not, but for a non-rooted device, this is an impressive start. In addition, many of the "side-loaded" apps launch in floating, resizable configurations.
I have now rooted the device and have installed wannam. It, too, has a multiwindow enabler which, from many past experiences, works well. Without a viable recovery, it might be risky as the two might conflict. Suggestions, comments???
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Thanks. The performance sounds good. How about having 4 concurrent videos or 4 concurrent graphically-intensive 3D games?
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Why would anyone need to run 4 concurrent graphically intensive games? How the heck would you play 4 at once?
There is no reason at all to test out situations one would never run into in real world usage.
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