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I am aware that ENG S-OFF is needed to flash a radio, and S-OFF is needed to achieve root. I'm looking for a technical explanation of what they are, and their differences?
cavsoldier19d said:
I am aware that ENG S-OFF is needed to flash a radio, and S-OFF is needed to achieve root. I'm looking for a technical explanation of what they are, and their differences?
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You do not need eng s-off to flash a radio.
The easiest way to explain it, is radio s-off turns off security so you can flash custom roms. Eng s-off allows you to access the engineering h boot, for more complex and in depth modding of the phone. Which in most cases you can do a lot of stuff in radio s-off that you can do with eng s-boot with running less of a chance of bricking your phone. Such as flashing a radio..
i read somewhere that eng-off allows the engineering h boot (like you said), but within that is a "quick boot" option that is for testing roms or something.
can you give a more in depth explanation of what the quick boot can/cant do and what other types of things are available within the engineering mode??
It allows you access to certain partitions on the phones memory that require engineering h boot to access. I haven't dug to far into the separate partitions, but the phones radio software is on one, and on some phones the splash screen is on a separate partition. These partitions are kept separate from the rom. That is the easiest way I can explain it.
i have recently installed a new gingerbread ROM on the inspire, and it suggests using compatible radios. In the post, it clearly says you need ENG S-OFF to do a radio flash. Am i reading this correctly??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11561829&postcount=4
ENG S-OFF isn't required to flash new radio. Just follow the the steps in this post. Works great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002226
Little_Ant said:
i have recently installed a new gingerbread ROM on the inspire, and it suggests using compatible radios. In the post, it clearly says you need ENG S-OFF to do a radio flash. Am i reading this correctly??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11561829&postcount=4
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You can use eng S-off and flash the radio and as soon as it is done you can turn it back off. I had eng s-off and it is not as dangerous as people say, it is just that you do need to be careful on the flash. I had it on, on my phone and then turned it off and my phone did not explode or the sky did not fall.
As most post on this forum say, not responsible for damage to your phone, you can brick your phone just by rooting or flashing a rom, just be careful and read before you do it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
The people on the coredroid thread would not have you do something that they have not tried themself's many times, I think that you can trust them fully.
Halfway down the first post you will see how to turn Eng s-off back on, BUT make sure that you do nothing to the SD card in the phone when you did the Eng s-off because it will have the three files on it needed to turn it back on. The one click s-off puts these files on the SD card when you do it.
moe3754 said:
You can use eng S-off and flash the radio and as soon as it is done you can turn it back off. I had eng s-off and it is not as dangerous as people say, it is just that you do need to be careful on the flash. I had it on, on my phone and then turned it off and my phone did not explode or the sky did not fall.
As most post on this forum say, not responsible for damage to your phone, you can brick your phone just by rooting or flashing a rom, just be careful and read before you do it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
The people on the coredroid thread would not have you do something that they have not tried themself's many times, I think that you can trust them fully.
Halfway down the first post you will see how to turn Eng s-off back on, BUT make sure that you do nothing to the SD card in the phone when you did the Eng s-off because it will have the three files on it needed to turn it back on. The one click s-off puts these files on the SD card when you do it.
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The problem is your more likely to mess up and brick your phone with eng s-off then radio s-off... That is why we shy people away from eng s-offing the phone. There is absolutely no reason a general user should have eng s-off. Keep in mind eng s-off itself will not brick your phone, but there is just no reason a general user needs to be messing around with it.
Eng s off basically gives useful options to devs. ex-after building a kernel and you don't know if its gonna boot or implode the phone, long story short you can boot the kernel/ramdisk without actually writing it yet. (fastboot boot vs fastboot flash)
a normal user/flasher/modder will never technically need it cause you can do anything you need to with s-off. Eng-s off is in no way dangerous just having like that and not using it, it just gives the user the possibility to accidentally do something bad, kinda like leaving yourself logged in as root in linux.
On the other hand, if you do somehow brick or semi-brick your phone (with a bad flash or something unrelated to s off), you now have more options to try to fix the problem
Hi,
I've installed a custom ROM on my HTC Desire S. However, now that I've got a new phone I need to restore the phone back to its orignal state (Gingerbread - UK Orange).
I know this question has been asked before but after reading the other threads I'm still a little unclear on exactly what I need to do.
I'd be greatful if someone could point in the right direction, i.e do I need to use a RUU (whatever that is?) or can I just flash the phone with a stock ROM in the same way that I installed the custom ROM?
Not sure if this is relevant or not, but the revolutionary bootloader shows the following ifnormation:
SAGA PUT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-6.98.1002
RADIO-3805.06.02.03_M
eMMC-boot
Thanks,
I appreciate any help.
Have a look here androidforums.com/3405058-post1.html at section 2.
Flash hboot 0.98.2000 then install the RUU for your phone.
I suggest you make a gold card just in case you need it down the line.
Make sure you choose the right RUU.
Thanks for your reply.
I've followed your advice and flashed hboot 0.98.2000. This was fine. Also create a gold card as you suggested.
Then, I ran the RUU, but this failed the error:
Code:
ERROR[131] CUSTOMER ID ERROR
The ROM Update Utility cannot update your Android phone.
Please get the correct ROM Update Utility and try again.
Now, I downloaded the "RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.47.401.4_Radio_20.28I.30.085AU_3805.06.02.03_M_release_199410_signed.exe" as there was no specific Orange UK RUU listed. Was this not correct?
Thanks
Not sure were to get a orange RUU and what version you will need (but am sure someone knows).....
If you are returning to stock for warranty then you will need a orange RUU, if not and just want to get back to stock for well stock sake then insert your gold card and try again, if it fails then you didn't make the card right or used the wrong CID (sometimes it gets the phones internal memory CID), use goldcard helper app to get the right one (mmc2 I think it is)
Even with the goldcard in, the RUU fails. I guess this means you're correct in saying it wasn't correctly created :-( although I did use mmc2 so maybe I did something else wrong.
I'm not returning to stock for warranty reasons, just so I can sell the phone. But either way, I'm not sure how I proceed from here. I would glady use goldcard helper app in order to create a working goldcard but this isn't possible (or is it?) as there's nothing installed on the phone and it just boots to hboot every time.
Is it possible to use revolutionary to re-install a custom hboot and then a custom ROM, and start the process again? I've just attempted this and revolutionary doesn't see the device.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
Fixable, not that easy though...
Have a look here, same problem as you. Post 11 explains how to make a gold card on the Pc with a card reader.
Also a few posts here about how to make a goldcard on the PC, so have a look for them.
Keep in mind some cards just dont work as goldcards.
I want to downgrade my desire S to be able to use revolutionary.
Can I use this method? (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399331)
My Desire has the following specifications:
- 2.3.5
- Hboot 2.000.002
- 2.10.401.8
What version do I download the RUU? 2.10.401.8?
If this method does not work what happens? The phone continues to work the same way?
Thanks
Fredericosilva said:
I want to downgrade my desire S to be able to use revolutionary.
Can I use this method? (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399331)
My Desire has the following specifications:
- 2.3.5
- Hboot 2.000.002
- 2.10.401.8
What version do I download the RUU? 2.10.401.8?
If this method does not work what happens? The phone continues to work the same way?
Thanks
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I really wish you wouldn't do that. Switching indiscriminately between HBOOT versions is one possible way (if something goes wrong) to convert your Desire S to one very expensive paperweight. Most new ROMs require the newer HBOOT. Guaranteed you won't be staying long on the old HBOOT. But if you insist, a brief glimpse at the Dev section should satiate your curiosity.
Saipro said:
I really wish you wouldn't do that. Switching indiscriminately between HBOOT versions is one possible way (if something goes wrong) to convert your Desire S to one very expensive paperweight. Most new ROMs require the newer HBOOT. Guaranteed you won't be staying long on the old HBOOT. But if you insist, a brief glimpse at the Dev section should satiate your curiosity.
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So what you recommend to do root and install a new rom? The only way I have to s-off is downgrade hboot, for now...
Fredericosilva said:
So what you recommend to do root and install a new rom? The only way I have to s-off is downgrade hboot, for now...
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Ok. Downgrade. But it's as easy as pushing the appropriate HBOOT to your device via ADB. If you've downloaded the appropriate HBOOT, you're almost there. It's as easy as using this tested & trusted method
Saipro said:
Ok. Downgrade. But it's as easy as pushing the appropriate HBOOT to your device via ADB. If you've downloaded the appropriate HBOOT, you're almost there. It's as easy as using this tested & trusted method
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I believe it's not that easy. Engineering HBOOT (or any HBOOT for that matter) can't be flashed without S-OFF, since HTCDev-unlocked bootloader won't accept that flash, from ADB or any other source - the writes just won't go through, they'll be cached by eMMC and lost upon reboot.
So, as the OP says, he has no choice but to downgrade.
OP, there's a sticky in Development section, ROMS/RECOVERY/ROOT/HBOOT/etc. Please read it instead of posting, and you'll discover 3 guides (at least).
Jack_R1 said:
I believe it's not that easy. Engineering HBOOT (or any HBOOT for that matter) can't be flashed without S-OFF, since HTCDev-unlocked bootloader won't accept that flash, from ADB or any other source - the writes just won't go through, they'll be cached by eMMC and lost upon reboot.
So, as the OP says, he has no choice but to downgrade.
OP, there's a sticky in Development section, ROMS/RECOVERY/ROOT/HBOOT/etc. Please read it instead of posting, and you'll discover 3 guides (at least).
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Well, that could be. But a few people seem to have done it via ADB. What really puzzles me is the number of people who unlock their phones using HTCDEV. It's unbelievable!
It seems much easier and less intimidating than S-OFF guides.
And then they're getting stuck, because they usually don't understand a thing in what they did. And then they come and open endless threads "Ok, I unlocked with HTCDev, now what do I do". Oh well, such is life...
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Jack_R1 said:
I believe it's not that easy. Engineering HBOOT (or any HBOOT for that matter) can't be flashed without S-OFF, since HTCDev-unlocked bootloader won't accept that flash, from ADB or any other source - the writes just won't go through, they'll be cached by eMMC and lost upon reboot.
So, as the OP says, he has no choice but to downgrade.
OP, there's a sticky in Development section, ROMS/RECOVERY/ROOT/HBOOT/etc. Please read it instead of posting, and you'll discover 3 guides (at least).
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Hmm confusing this root is....
Hmm been reading for a week now, I have the same Hboot and RUU and I'm a bit puzzeled.
I don't want to go the HTCDev way, because of the limitations afterward.
I have an unbranded Desire S, S-on and locked, with Hboot 2.00.0002.
- When I understand it right there is no other way then a downgrade right?
- This downgrade has to be done with Zergrush (although I thought it didn't work for 2.3.3 and above?) to gain temp root, then the misc_version to fool the phone so we can use the older RUU (not sure which one to take though, the oldest WWE?)
Now I could s-off through AlpaRev, but I have a question or two there as well
- I want to work with the Engineering Hboot (seems to be better?), can I do this directy via AlphaRev Iso, or do I need to flash/push it later? What would be the advantage over using the Alpharev one?
- Similar question, but now about the recovery that comes with Alpharev (CWM). I prefer 4EXT, can I bake that in in one go, or do I rather use the 4EXT installer from the market afterward?
Feel free to comment on my noobness, but on my desire it was a lot easier.
Don't want to end up with a paper weight.
Cheers
May the force be with you...
Edit: quoted the wrong post...
You sound very well informed and have done your research well, something to be commended.
Downgrade hboot, soff with revolutionary then afterwards fast boot flash eng hboot
Eng hboot is better IMO, as provides you more options
Swyped firm ym Desire S unsig XAD Permuim
ben_pyett said:
You sound very well informed and have done your research well, something to be commended.
Downgrade hboot, soff with revolutionary then afterwards fast boot flash eng hboot
Eng hboot is better IMO, as provides you more options
Swyped firm ym Desire S unsig XAD Permuim
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Thanks for the boost of confidence, I'm no cmd line hero, hence the hesitation.
I used mainly terminal emulator to push recovery, hboot were easy as well with the right zip.
Could you comment in further detail about my RUU question and tell me if it is possible to add EXT4 install with Alparev?
Is this btw also a downgrade of the os and radio? I.o.w. does this process leave me with an old radio and os (2.3.3 without 3.0 sense)?
I understood as well that the hboot 0.98.0000 and 0002, work only with RUU containing 2.3.3?
Does this engineering boot work with 2.3.5 and above?
What confuses the hell out of me is the need to relock the phone, wasn't the whole idea not the direct opposite?
Why this need to relock?
Again, cheers for the help, on the old desire this was all quite easy obtained by just reading and a lot less command line code..
germsandbugs said:
Thanks for the boost of confidence, I'm no cmd line hero, hence the hesitation.
I used mainly terminal emulator to push recovery, hboot were easy as well with the right zip.
Could you comment in further detail about my RUU question and tell me if it is possible to add EXT4 install with Alparev?
Is this btw also a downgrade of the os and radio? I.o.w. does this process leave me with an old radio and os (2.3.3 without 3.0 sense)?
I understood as well that the hboot 0.98.0000 and 0002, work only with RUU containing 2.3.3?
Does this engineering boot work with 2.3.5 and above?
What confuses the hell out of me is the need to relock the phone, wasn't the whole idea not the direct opposite?
Why this need to relock?
Again, cheers for the help, on the old desire this was all quite easy obtained by just reading and a lot less command line code..
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Yes once downgraded you will be on 2.3.3 and sense 2.1.
Did it myself a week back. Don't want sense 3.or 3.5. Perfectly happy with sense 4 and go back to 2.1 for camera.
Coming to the hboot.
you should definitely flash an eng-hboot, which is good on case you need warranty.
I would recommend you to go for the old eng hboot 0.98 as it had a larger cache memory. So should stay on 0.98 unless facing issues.
I don't think you need to relock again. That would be needed only if you need to go for warranty
If you follow the steps listed, out should be straight forward. Let me know if you need any help.
Swyped from a primed Desire S
Which stock Sensation XE rom has the least amount of bloatware?
The question pretty much sums it up. I just got a Sensation XE, Hong Kong model. It has a lot of crap software on it: youni sms, xda assistant, 通通电话，baidu, kuwo player, and all this other Chinese crap. I hate Chinese software with passion. If skynet was/is real, I believe it would be running a Chinese OS. Chinese software naturally tries to take over your computer or phone.
I want to switch to the stock rom with the least amount of junk on it. If it also has a good Chinese/English keyboard with handwriting input that is a plus.
Also, just to make sure I'm on the right track, this is what should be done before I can change roms, right?
1) Get S-off
2) Install Clockwork Mod
3) Get permanent root
4) Write super cid
5) Change Stock Rom
typci said:
Which stock Sensation XE rom has the least amount of bloatware?
The question pretty much sums it up. I just got a Sensation XE, Hong Kong model. It has a lot of crap software on it: youni sms, xda assistant, 通通电话，baidu, kuwo player, and all this other Chinese crap. I hate Chinese software with passion. If skynet was/is real, I believe it would be running a Chinese OS. Chinese software naturally tries to take over your computer or phone.
I want to switch to the stock rom with the least amount of junk on it. If it also has a good Chinese/English keyboard with handwriting input that is a plus.
Also, just to make sure I'm on the right track, this is what should be done before I can change roms, right?
1) Get S-off
2) Install Clockwork Mod
3) Get permanent root
4) Write super cid
5) Change Stock Rom
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the steps are fine ..but 3rd step is not required ...and 2)better have 4EXT recovery ..its better imho and between 4 and 5 there might be one more step ..which can only be decided after you told the current rom you are having (if running gb now ..for ICS you need to flash 3.32/3.33 firmware ..then ROM)
as for the ROM ..for simple STOCK like and fully customized with bloat removed ..try ARHD, insert coin or Elegancia
Hi,
If you go through the steps you mentioned:
1) Get S-off
2) Install Clockwork Mod (Try to get a PG58IMG.zip version of it, saves having to fastboot flash it)
3) Get permanent root
4) Write super cid
5) Change Stock Rom
You could stop at step3 and manuall delete stuff off the ROM you have. OR, what I'd probably do), and as mentioned you can skip step 3 if you're installing a new ROM. Go for a WWE (World Wide English) RUU if you want to keep completely Stock, you can then run ROMcleaner to remove some redundant crap.
Look for something like: RUU_PYRAMID_ICS_HTC_Europe_3.32.401.5_Radio_11.69. 3504.00U_11.22.3504.07_M_release_246089_signed.exe
It's ICS with Sense 3.6. The 401 in the above means it's WWE and will either need SuperCID (11111111) or HTC__001, it's completely unbranded.
You can find ROMcleaner at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1217664
Thanks for the replies. I know I can root and then uninstall system apps. I don't really like doing that because you just don't know what else has been done to the rom. This Hong Kong rom won't let me use stock SMS (I know how to select default SMS program, it doesn't work on this rom) and doesn't have stock browser (it has some chinese version of Opera), is asking me if I want to invite my contacts to join all kinds of stupid networks, gets involved with my text messages, has some Chinese antivirus that keeps complaining, and all kinds of other crap. It's the worst rom I've ever seen. The WWE appears to be what I'm looking for. It's unbranded and shouldn't have carrier or region specific stuff. Youtube and other apps that don't ask me questions I can deal with.
I want root, for all of it's obvious benefits. I usually run stock, rooted and custom kernal with GPU overclock. But I'm not so sure I like sense, but I want to try a cleaner rom before I decide on sense.
I'm guessing I don't need to do the OTA update before I start the process. I also saw there were some special procedures for the latest ICS. I'll deal with that bridge when I get there. For now I just need a clean rom that doesn't bombard me with useless Chinese crap.
typci said:
Thanks for the replies. I know I can root and then uninstall system apps. I don't really like doing that because you just don't know what else has been done to the rom. This Hong Kong rom won't let me use stock SMS (I know how to select default SMS program, it doesn't work on this rom) or doesn't have stock browser (it has some chinese version of Opera), is asking me if I want to invite my contacts to join all kinds of stupid networks, gets involved with my text messages, has some Chinese antivirus that keeps complaining, and all kinds of other crap. It's the worst rom I've ever seen. The WWE appears to be what I'm looking for. It's unbranded and shouldn't have carrier or region specific stuff. Youtube and other apps that don't ask me questions I can deal with.
I want root, for all of it's obvious benefits. I usually run stock, rooted and custom kernal with GPU overclock. But I'm not so sure I like sense, but I want to try a cleaner rom before I decide on sense.
I'm guessing I don't need to do the OTA update before I start the process. I saw there were some special procedures for the latest ICS. I'll deal with that bridge when I get there. For now I just need a clean gingerbread that doesn't bombard me with useless Chinese crap.
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There are a few WWE GB ROMs out there, the one I mentioned is pretty slick as it's ICS which seems to work better IMHO.
The following is mentioned in post 1776 and there abouts in the following thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Pyramid
The OP has filefactory as the repository but it never worked for me so I gave up on it, looks like others had the same issue.
Just get a Europe one xxx.401.xxx. Avoid 1.24 if you want to go through OTA updates, I had issues with that, might have been me but .....
The ROMcleaner thing I mentioned is pretty good at removing the HTC extra stuff.
Of course, there are a few very nice custom ROMs out there. I was using Virtuous Inquisition (AOSP look and feel based on Sense but de-sensed as much as possible). I've not tried ARHD/IC and some of the others for a long time so can't comment on them.
Have fun and GL on your quest.
EDIT:
P.S. after applying the RUU you'll need to re-install CWM (again easiest was is if you have a PG58IMG.zip version of it) and then apply the root. It looks like the best root at the moment is SuperSU (reading some posts here from EddyOS).
Thanks again. I'm downloading:
RUU_PYRAMID_LE_ICS_35_S_HTC_Europe_3.32.401.105_R2_Radio_11.69.3504.00U_11.22.3504.07_M_release_253443_signed.exe
Now that I look again the 3.33 version is available, I probably should have downloaded that.
I've already got: ADB drivers, HTC Sync, HTC driver, java, pg58img(recovery.img), CMW 5.0.2.0, revolutionary-0.4pre4, su-2.3.63-efgh, and the unbrick stuff in case something goes wrong. Once I finished downloading the firmware I should be ready to go. I'll double check that all the files are good, re-read all the instructional threads, and then get started. My phone doesn't have a warranty, so I have to make sure everything is done correctly the first time.
I also found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
Will I need to flash this as well?
HTC phones are so much more complicated compared to the other phones I've rooted and flashed. On my Huawei phone you plugged the phone in to the computer, copied two files, and you were rooted and had CWM installed.
typci said:
Thanks again. I'm downloading:
RUU_PYRAMID_LE_ICS_35_S_HTC_Europe_3.32.401.105_R2_Radio_11.69.3504.00U_11.22.3504.07_M_release_253443_signed.exe
Now that I look again the 3.33 version is available, I probably should have downloaded that.
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The 3.32 contains the 1.27.0000 HBOOT which can be unlocked (just done it myself). The 3.33 contains 1.29.0000 which at the moment cannot be unlocked.
As you're already S-OFF it probably doesn't make much difference. I'm on 3.32 at the moment, I don't know what the differences are between 3.32 & 3.33, I assume minor bug fixes.
I've already got: ADB drivers, HTC Sync, HTC driver, java, pg58img(recovery.img), CMW 5.0.2.0, revolutionary-0.4pre4, su-2.3.63-efgh, and the unbrick stuff in case something goes wrong. Once I finished downloading the firmware I should be ready to go. I'll double check that all the files are good, re-read all the instructional threads, and then get started. My phone doesn't have a warranty, so I have to make sure everything is done correctly the first time.
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Unless you go back to HBOOT 1.18.00 or earlier revolutionary can't help to S-OFF, as you're already S-OFF you shouldn't need it.
Does the PG58IMG.zip you mention contain CWM 5.0.2.0 ?, I usually keep a copy about called PG58IMG-CWM5020.zip, then change the name when I want to install it. The reason I ask is that PG58IMG.zip is a generic name and can be used for many things. You'll need to pop the uSD card when it asks you to reboot.
As far as SU is concerned, look at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
I also found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
Will I need to flash this as well?
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No the RUU is self contained and includes the firmware/radio. You might want to install HBOOT 1.27.0011 afterwards, IRC it allows fastboot commands. I think it's in that thread.
HTC phones are so much more complicated compared to the other phones I've rooted and flashed. On my Huawei phone you plugged the phone in to the computer, copied two files, and you were rooted and had CWM installed.
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I know HTC seemed to have created hassles. I had an early Sensation and waiting for someone to work out how to S-OFF was a real pain.
GL
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REMEMBER to take a nandroid backup before you start, just in case ! Also remember that nandroid backups don't include HBOOT or Radio so if you need to revert you'd need to get them. Take a note of the existing baseband/radio & HBOOT.
gol_n_dal said:
Does the PG58IMG.zip you mention contain CWM 5.0.2.0 ?, I usually keep a copy about called PG58IMG-CWM5020.zip, then change the name when I want to install it. The reason I ask is that PG58IMG.zip is a generic name and can be used for many things. You'll need to pop the uSD card when it asks you to reboot
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I found the PG58IMG-CWM5020.zip file you were talking about. I like that idea better.
gol_n_dal said:
REMEMBER to take a nandroid backup before you start, just in case ! Also remember that nandroid backups don't include HBOOT or Radio so if you need to revert you'd need to get them. Take a note of the existing baseband/radio & HBOOT.
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Good point. I'll add that to the list of steps so I don't forget.
1) Setup ADB/fastboot
2) Get S-off
3) Install Clockwork Mod
4) Backup via CWM!!!!
5) Get permanent root
6) Write super cid
7) Change Stock Rom
Unfortunately the rom didn't download correctly, so looks like I won't be installing the rom tonight.
typci said:
I found the PG58IMG-CWM5020.zip file you were talking about. I like that idea better.
Good point. I'll add that to the list of steps so I don't forget.
1) Setup ADB/fastboot
2) Backup via ADB!!!!
3) Get S-off
4) Install Clockwork Mod
5) Backup via CWM!!!!
6) Get permanent root
7) Write super cid
8) Change Stock Rom
Unfortunately the rom didn't download correctly, so looks like I won't be installing the rom tonight.
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The nandroid backup is via ClockworkMod, not certain what you're backing up through ADB/fastboot. Guess you could get Radio/Recovery etc. Never tried it myself, I like a simple life
There is no point applying SuperSU until after you have installed the new Stock ROM. You can change the CID directly with fastboot, it doesn't need root for that.
Shame about the download, at least the steps look about right.
Eek, I thought you already had S-OFF ? What HBOOT are you on at the moment ? If it's 1.18.0000 or earlier revolutionary.io is perfect, if it's later it's a different process.
Note that when you install the new stock rom via RUUxxxx.exe, it'll splat the custom recovery so it'll need to be re-applied.
Umm, I booted into HBOOT to get my HBOOT version and at the top of the screen it says:
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT 1.17.008
RADIO-10.11.9007.15_M
That mean I already had S-OFF, right? Well that was easy.
Actually the phone was smuggled into China to avoid taxes. The sellers probably had to get S-OFF to put a Chinese language rom on there. Which also would explain all the extra bloatware, probably was installed by the same people.
Also, I wasn't able to pull the images through ADB. Have to wait until after rooted.
UPDATE: Installed CWM, backing up now, then root. So far so good. I'll probably have to settle for using Titanium Backup to remove the unwanted apps for now. The second try at downloading the RUU also failed.
UPDATE: Rooted, through it probably was already rooted. Also checked the CID and it was already 11111111. Thanks Chinese smugglers. You did all the work for me. Now to finish uninstalling all the crap you put on my phone.
So actually, the only work I did was install the SU and backup my system.
Nice to see it going smoothly for you, and remember if you want to install ics, you need to flash a ics firmware 3.32 or 3.33. Or you'll be in a boot loop.
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typci said:
Umm, I booted into HBOOT to get my HBOOT version and at the top of the screen it says:
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT 1.17.008
RADIO-10.11.9007.15_M
That mean I already had S-OFF, right? Well that was easy.
Actually the phone was smuggled into China to avoid taxes. The sellers probably had to get S-OFF to put a Chinese language rom on there. Which also would explain all the extra bloatware, probably was installed by the same people.
Also, I wasn't able to pull the images through ADB. Have to wait until after rooted.
UPDATE: Installed CWM, backing up now, then root. So far so good. I'll probably have to settle for using Titanium Backup to remove the unwanted apps for now. The second try at downloading the RUU also failed.
UPDATE: Rooted, through it probably was already rooted. Also checked the CID and it was already 11111111. Thanks Chinese smugglers. You did all the work for me. Now to finish uninstalling all the crap you put on my phone.
So actually, the only work I did was install the SU and backup my system.
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LOL
As you say that was easy.
There are other sites that you can download 3.32.401 from as it's fairly common, have a look.
As you have a nandroid backup that you can recover back to if needed you can also try ROMcleaner.
I'm going to try a Jelly Bean ROM tomorrow so my nandroid backup will be vital )
A really nice fairly lightweight ROM is Virtuous Inquisition. As I said it's AOSP look and feel but has Sense backend, it's been de-sensed as much as possible.
Anyway Have Fun.
flare4000 said:
Nice to see it going smoothly for you, and remember if you want to install ics, you need to flash a ics firmware 3.32 or 3.33. Or you'll be in a boot loop.
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I downloaded 3.32 Europe RUU. I plan to install that tonight after work.
typci said:
I downloaded 3.32 Europe RUU. I plan to install that tonight after work.
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The RUU will contain everything you need and update firmware, Radio, Recovery, HBOOT, ..... and of course the ROM.
Remember it'll flatten the ROM so all saved messages, WiFi details etc. will be lost.
If for some reason you need to revert back to your existing ROM you'll need to downgrade the firmware to 1.17.0008, including the radio. I doubt you'll bother though when you're on 3.32.
help
Does Anyone Have
RUU PYRAMID hTC Asia WWE 1.77.708.148
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rafael1369 said:
Does Anyone Have
RUU PYRAMID hTC Asia WWE 1.77.708.148
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1. Don't double post, you posted this somewhere else as well.
2. Go and look in Football's Shipped ROM Collection thread.
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help
I know but it's urgent
how I can upgrade my frimware to3.33.x???
I have install dark forest without upgrade my frimware but my device still in htc logo
s-on
with touch recovery
and rooted
please help mee
If it's that urgent you should spend time familiarize yourself with the search button. There is Asskicker's guide how to flash roms with s-on in the general forum. Plus I gave you a link to RUU's in the other thread you posted in.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e
matekaneve said:
If it's that urgent you should spend time familiarize yourself with the search button. There is Asskicker's guide how to flash roms with s-on in the general forum. Plus I gave you a link to RUU's in the other thread you posted in.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e
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Hi
I dont understand what u saied??
What can I do?
I have a one SV on cricket (US)
K2_PLC_CL (s-on) still
Ok so it was all stock from store. Tan I did this in order:
1.) Unlocked bootloader from HTC dev...
2.) (flashed) Installed CMW v6.0.2.8 via ADB
3.) MADE BACKUP with CWM
4.) Rooted by flashing a zip via CMW (worked great)
5.) tried moonshine.io for s-off tried twice. Failed
-program (distiller) closed after saying "moonshining 1...2...3...to 10)
-now on boot it gets to "Htc
I booted into CMW and retored that backup i had before any rooting or s-off etc... but it still hangs :silly:
Should I try the hboot option to restore? (I thought CMW backup was like a complete nand backup. Which should be bullet proof right?)
Thanks for looking guys! I have no communication as of now I just want to make calls at least
This is my first android device and I always like getting to know my devices from the inside, the iphone BS was too much haha. I gues i dont really need s off or super cid if it means no phone. but why not if it works.
Did you have ICS or JB, when you have tried S-off?
Please remember, as long as you are S-on you must flash the boot.img with fastboot commands (also, if you are restoring a backup and you did a full wipe)! If you have a cwm backup, boot.img should be inside of your backup folder.
Did you wipe everything before your restore? Maybe fragments of moonshine still there.
Did you try TWRP recovery?
[HTC oneSV boot hang, FIXED] THANKS!!
LOL I had no idea the boot.img had to to be manually flashed, thank you very much it work s great now!
This time I cleared/wiped data AND cache. it still hanged and wont boot. Than I re tried using CWM again to restore (still hangs). than I flashed boot.img THAT DID THE TRICK after "fastboot reboot".
BTW major fail on my part; I was rooting and moonshining for JB it turns out I have ICS (i forgot to update) now that you mentioned it hehehe
I had 4.0.4 sense 4.1. I think that is why everything went to hell...
Alright Ill try moonshine after the update to JB 4.1.2 if that fails than Ill try the facepalm.
One last question; if i do update to JB 4.1.2 and achieve s-off could I use that CMW backup to always go back to ICS 4.0.4? (just incase I ever wanted to get SUPER CID and get JB 4.2.2) I wonder if super cid works with k2-PLC-cl.... Ill try it when I get find the funds a better phone to risk a brick
-Thank you sir!
Ok, lets bring a bit light into these darkness:
- Facepalm S-Off only works, as long as you did not achieve the JB update!
- You can restore a ics cwm backup, also when you are on JB and S-Off, but
- Restoring ics from a backup is not the same, as you where on ics before the update.
Thats because of the updated hboot (ics-> hboot 1.0; jb-> hboot 2.0). In hboot 2.0 the Supercid/Facepalm exploit is fixed. You can still get Supercid under hboot 2.0, but you must do moonshine S-Off before.
So, at all you must think about, what you want and whats the best way to get, before updating to jb.
If this was to difficult to understand, ask again and i will try my best to explain it for you to understand.
Ok
Hum they creators of these phones really enjoy making puzzles for us don't they...
Alright so my options are:
1.) [stay on ICS]
-get super cid
-facepalm for s-off
(can I still update to JB after this and still have super cid and s-off? But that would install hbot2 wouldnt it? so....)
I think I want method 2↓
2.) [update to JB]
-use moonshine to get s-off
-some how get super cid? (I dont really need super cid but it would be nice to know I have it just in case)
-profit
//edit//(ohh yes, once on JB hboot v2, if i have s off and on hboot2 could I go back to hboot1 along with ICS should i need to)
Any ways thank you again
1. Right, you can update and both will stay.
2. Right, after S-Off you should be able to change SuperCid. But it should be said, that its a very risky operation and phone can be bricked very easily if you are doing something wrong.
And for your edit: You can restore a ics backup, but without a RUU it is difficult to bring back hboot 1. Only a backup of it will solve this. Recoveries usually don't backup hboot.
SV ICS super cid
I know this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2264322
says to do super cid on original stock, but could I just go ahead and HEX my cid with my ICS that is unlocked/rooted/custom-recovery?
Do I have to un-do all of that to change the CID? or is that just good technique? [im also on cricket ics 4.0.4 if it matters, k2_plc_cl]
Thank you very much! I wish to change my cid right now but ill wait and see what you say if it saves me from a brick
than I'm off to s-off for all the goodies that follow haha.
I don't think, that this will be important, because SuperCid is located in a partition which has nothing to do with root or recovery.
alrighty than
haha wrong link in previous post I meant this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26516911#post26516911
WHEN HTCDEV UNLOCKS YOUR DEVICE YOU MUST START FROM SCRATCH!!!
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I was reading his link and somehow posted your link, Ill use your link actually now that I read it... I thought it wouldn't matter, better safe than sorry. Ill try it out and see how it goes.
Thanks for helping
Questions about hexing CID
old.splatterhand said:
I don't think, that this will be important, because SuperCid is located in a partition which has nothing to do with root or recovery.
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Alright its late and I'm not going to flash it yet ill wait to see what you make of this:
I have used hxd many times for xbox/psp/etc so i know how it works... it found 3 instances of my CID
(some info omitted as the 'x' char)
Code:
maincid=CRICK001xx.xx.cidlist=CRICK001.xx.xx.rid=105.xx.xx.modelid=PL8xxxxxx.xx.xx.report=com.xx.xx.skulist=1xxx.xx.xx.taskid=30xxxx.xx.xx.mainsku=1xxx.xx.onecid=1.xx.cwkey=CRICK001.ro.com.google.clientidbase=android-htc //more stuff after........
Im assuming only the first instance "maincid=CRICK001" needs to be 11111111
(or should all 3 instances of "CRICK001" be changed to 11111111)
Ill give it a go after work tomorrow when Im confident that my modifications wont render my phone as a door stop.
I need to buy you a beer, but the donation is in german, ill have to translate it when I get done
Gain_Medium said:
Alright its late and I'm not going to flash it yet ill wait to see what you make of this:
I have used hxd many times for xbox/psp/etc so i know how it works... it found 3 instances of my CID
(some info omitted as the 'x' char)
Code:
maincid=CRICK001xx.xx.cidlist=CRICK001.xx.xx.rid=105.xx.xx.modelid=PL8xxxxxx.xx.xx.report=com.xx.xx.skulist=1xxx.xx.xx.taskid=30xxxx.xx.xx.mainsku=1xxx.xx.onecid=1.xx.cwkey=CRICK001.ro.com.google.clientidbase=android-htc //more stuff after........
Im assuming only the first instance "maincid=CRICK001" needs to be 11111111
(or should all 3 instances of "CRICK001" be changed to 11111111)
Ill give it a go after work tomorrow when Im confident that my modifications wont render my phone as a door stop.
I need to buy you a beer, but the donation is in german, ill have to translate it when I get done
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At this point i only can tell you about my guide and the picture inside. To be honest, i only noticed only one cid, together with imei. So maybe this helps you.
Edit:
Please, really be careful if your file/block is different than in my guide!
I'm on mobile and can't look at your code completely.
My guide for sure works for k2u & k2ul cause i did it myself at two different phones but i don't know, if cricket has changed more and i don't want your phone bricked.
Edit2:
I really not sure, if changing CID will work. Maybe you'll try the S-Off step by Moonshine after update to JB, would be better than a bricked phone!
You must also think, what do i profit from SuperCID?
K2u & k2ul can be unbranded this way, maybe they also profit from earlier updates.
But you can't use k2u/l Software on US phones, different network, so this point is useless for you. And i don't think, cricket will release their updates earlier for phones with SuperCID.
Just my two cents, now its on you to make your decision...
What i also want to say, i had help the first time i did.
It was @jmz who helped me, maybe he reads that and know more about cricket cid.
I think ill give it a go
I actually tried to contact him and others, but since im so new I can't send PMs (they send but nothing is in my sent box. link it never happened) so I guess unless JMZ stumbles upon this thread thats it.
As for me I don't think it would brick my phone (like a real brick) if all else I could just boot into recovery and flash back my backup stuff right?
Or if i screw up would it not even allow recovery / shell? Although a brick would permit me to buy a better popular phone
If i try it all post more details on it for other cricket users.
This is modifying the bootloader. If you do something wrong, the phone wont boot. Not in recovery, not in OS, bricked.
PS. @Gain_Medium
If you write a xda username with an @ before, the one will be notified, the he is mentioned somewhere
Side note: I don't believe that there is any reason for super cid on a cricket us carrier, unless you plan on traveling to Europe, Asia, or anywhere out of the continent.
Yes, it's cool to have accomplished superCID. But there is really no benefit here in the US, if you plan on maybe using a different service plan provider, you'll still need to unlock your SIM, even if you do achieve superCID without bricking.
Good luck with your decision. I hope to read your updates on what you have chosen. And how everything goes for you.
THESE ARE ONLY MY THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS. NOT TRYING TO SWAY YOU AWAY FROM ATTEMPTING ANYTHING.
but please research superCID for cricket mobile and see what you find.
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