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I have a few basic questions about my phone, and somethings I hope to do to it. I have the AT&T Fuze phone, still on AT&T also.
My questions are:
~Is there a way to remap keys (mainly the PTT button) without having a custom ROM?
~Can I alter the bottom slide icons order, current order is home-people-mail-etc.
~The home screen with the keyboard slide out, is there a way to change what these icons do or launch? Ex. Web search, can I change the default web search? Can I reassign messages to go to the IM program?
I was hoping to not have to do a custom ROM for any of these, a bit of background. I had both iPhone's prior to this and did all the jailbreaking/unlocking (still do for others), and with WinMo I feel I can do all this work but it already lets me do so much. Just a few simple changes and I would be set.
Thanks for any help.
everyone is going to tell you search, but basically you can do all that stuff...i would recommend flashing your phone with a new ROM and installing tf3d config
check out blownfuze.org pw is xda/xda as well as searching the forums for more answers
NPSgator said:
everyone is going to tell you search, but basically you can do all that stuff...i would recommend flashing your phone with a new ROM and installing tf3d config
check out blownfuze.org pw is xda/xda as well as searching the forums for more answers
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Thank you, I have attempted some searches and mostly come up with custom roms. If anyone has links to how to do these things, it will surely help just as much.
Rokln said:
I have a few basic questions about my phone, and somethings I hope to do to it. I have the AT&T Fuze phone, still on AT&T also.
My questions are:
~Is there a way to remap keys (mainly the PTT button) without having a custom ROM?
~Can I alter the bottom slide icons order, current order is home-people-mail-etc.
~The home screen with the keyboard slide out, is there a way to change what these icons do or launch? Ex. Web search, can I change the default web search? Can I reassign messages to go to the IM program?
I was hoping to not have to do a custom ROM for any of these, a bit of background. I had both iPhone's prior to this and did all the jailbreaking/unlocking (still do for others), and with WinMo I feel I can do all this work but it already lets me do so much. Just a few simple changes and I would be set.
Thanks for any help.
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PTT button remap -- go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445498&page=1
Reorder icons -- use TF3D config get it from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405749
Remap landscape icons -- many are working on this. Stay tuned.
I also suggest you read the wiki.
So I'm curious about looks vs. functionality
Each one of my little drawings here satisfy both.
First off, I apologize for being a retard and using cam scanner to make these images sideways (although they were right side up originally).
Seeing as I can't attach images directly from my phone onto this site, I had to email them to myself, download them and then re attach.
Also another retard thing, I made a home button (app) thing on both of them even though there is a physical one on the phone itself.
Have a look
Also clarify with me which is which (theme or ROM).
How hard is it to design/engineer this and actually have everything function properly?
Theme/ROM 1
Them/ROM
it looks like you want to pull the whole status bar to the bottom of your phone. i didnt think you could just move that stuff around. a Dev would would be able to give u a yes or no.
im leaning more towards a theme than a Rom. but you can only theme what the Rom has. and NO rom has that, that i know of. so its like a combination of both.
Those drawings appear to be a significant layout overhaul, a la Sense and Touchwiz
It would either be:
1) a full-blown ROM
2) A replacement for a number of system apps (but could be an add-on), at the very least the launcher and probably the lockscreen
More than just basic theming, that's for sure.
Well it certainly gives the phone a neater, "in my opinion more efficient" functionality.
The one with the radial app dial, that spins, (you guys probably could tell that already) can fit either 7 or 8 apps.
When you press the home button the phone app automatically aligns directly above the said home button (non physical assuming there are 7 apps not 8).
The apps that go on the radial thing-a-ma-jig are your primary apps.
However since that non-physical home button is not needed, then the phone would be in the center or perhaps you'd like the browser.
In any case whichever app you use most extensively (ie #1).
I certainly cannot do any of the ROM creating but I was hoping to spark interest with the ones who are able to do so with ease.
The one with the triangle side bars (next image) these have 1-3 icons on them, when you tap that icon the first time a box will come up over lapping everything else in the background (or with slight opacity) and that gives you more detail rather than just an icon.
I think it would be neat as hell if this was done.
So is it like, theme = aesthetics ; rom = function
In this case I'd like to do both.
Also the capability to assign any app in that 7-8 slot (radial) would also be nice.
Perhaps done through the command prompt.
This is a feature I picked up from a blackberry (ability to assign any icon to a specific design/theme).
Thanks for the interest, I'm going to try and fix the orientation.
Some of what you're looking to do (the home-dial concept) may be doable without any ROM development at all - after all, plenty of launchers are installable as apps and what you're describing there is a launcher concept.
Notification bar moving could be a lot harder though.
FYI I'm a kernel guy not an app developer, so I can't help you much other than say that I'm fairly certain one of the features you want to implement can be done as a launcher app for any ROM.
Alright alright, we're sifting through sonething here.
I have very little knowledge od 'kernel' 'launchable' 'rom' as far as developing them goes. Are there tutorials ? (search bar probably)
Thanks for your contributions
What about color (borders keys etc)
Nice drawings man
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Hey thanks DevilDogAK
It's one thing to draw the idea by hand but to actually create it with code...
That's where the tires hit the road one might say.
I need to do some reading to get an idea of what I have to accomplish.
Thanks for the interest, as always it starts with a dream
I'll let you guys know whats up when I actually get to the point of dev
But team work goes a long way (hint hint hint)
sweet... great concept imo, & hey, cyanogen started with just a concept. wish i knew more to help you out, but we're with you in spirit nice drawings too lol
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About the launcher comment, does having two mean more computing power needed to run the first and second launcher or can I just do one primary launcher?
If I can just move things around, what about putting some notification components under the wheel? Components such as the wifi toggle and the data image or perhaps the data and battery.
Anyone smart enough to do that probably isn't dicking around on XDA. You never know though.
Well... I'm here
Haha just kidding, I do wish somebody with some experience knowledge (ie developer of Serendipity etc... ) a man can dream... a man can dream.
I know there have been a couple of posts dotted around asking about the keyboard dock but I've seen nothing definitive.
I have the dock and it worked great with Honeycomb. I neglected to think about how it would work with a custom ROM before flashing one.
I've gone for the CM9 ROM and although generally typing on the keyboard works it is far less functional. The majority of the (very useful) hotkeys don't work.
Including:
Home
On screen KB up/down
Menu
Play/Pause Media
Makes the whole thing far less useful :-(
I'm interested in if anyone knows anything I can do to make this better on CM9 or even if it's likely to work better with any different ICS ROM?
Yes, the keyboard dock hotkeys don't work, all except the back key. But even more annoying it is that the software keyboard shows up and it shouldn't.
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I know there have been a couple of posts dotted around asking about the keyboard dock but I've seen nothing definitive.
I have the dock and it worked great with Honeycomb. I neglected to think about how it would work with a custom ROM before flashing one.
I've gone for the CM9 ROM and although generally typing on the keyboard works it is far less functional. The majority of the (very useful) hotkeys don't work.
Including:
Home
On screen KB up/down
Menu
Play/Pause Media
Makes the whole thing far less useful :-(
I'm interested in if anyone knows anything I can do to make this better on CM9 or even if it's likely to work better with any different ICS ROM?
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I do not have a genuine Samsung keyboard (yet) but you should be able to map home, menu and the media buttons with my app: http://www.apedroid.com/android-applications/external-keyboard-helper
You can also specify up to 16 apps and create shortcuts for them. For example you could start the browser with Alt+B and Gmail with Alt+G if you want to.
Yep
I remember that happening occasionally before but it's constant now and even more inconvenient without the convenient hotkey to hide it.
Can I assume this is pretty constant regardless of the ROM used?
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Yep
I remember that happening occasionally before but it's constant now and even more inconvenient without the convenient hotkey to hide it.
Can I assume this is pretty constant regardless of the ROM used?
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Yes I think so unless it is a HC rom based on a stock ROM.
I'll fix some of it in the CM9 port once I recieve my BT keyboad case and have something to test with. If you just want to get rid of the on-screen keyboard you can use my free app that does that and nothing more: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apedroid.hwkeyboardhelperfree
If you want full control you need my paid app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apedroid.hwkeyboardhelper
Free demo: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apedroid.hwkeyboardhelperdemo
Thanks for the advice. Your app looks really helpful.
I've no problem buying the pro version but want to have a play with the demo one a little more first.
I'm having slight issues trying to map a few things:
App switching: can map keys to this but doesn't seem to do anything
"Internet" / "Mail" - these two keys aren't picked up by the mapping config as they immediately jump away launching the browser (I'd love to remap to chrome) or asking me whether i want Gmail or Mail (and not remembering my selection)
I've mapped home (hooray!) but although it takes you back to the launcher it doesn't necessarily take you back to the default screen as the onscreen home button does (that's a really small issue!)
Any thoughts about those?
On the subject of the demo version of the app... Is the only thing that's different between that and the pro version that the spacebar is mapped to: _This_is_a_demo_version!_?
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Thanks for the advice. Your app looks really helpful.
I've no problem buying the pro version but want to have a play with the demo one a little more first.
I'm having slight issues trying to map a few things:
App switching: can map keys to this but doesn't seem to do anything
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The problem with keycodes is that some are handled erlier in the input queue before I can process it in my app. App switcher and Home is two examples. I managed to do a workaround for Home but I have not yet found a way to bring up the app appswitcher programatically.
"Internet" / "Mail" - these two keys aren't picked up by the mapping config as they immediately jump away launching the browser (I'd love to remap to chrome) or asking me whether i want Gmail or Mail (and not remembering my selection)
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Same reason here. Android propably picks up and processes these before the app get a chance and therefor the scancode is never passed on. However, when I get my BT keyboard dock I can investigate this more.
I've mapped home (hooray!) but although it takes you back to the launcher it doesn't necessarily take you back to the default screen as the onscreen home button does (that's a really small issue!)
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This is due to the nature of the workaround. I just launch the launcher which gives almost the same effect as when the system processes the Home keycode (apart for the difference you noticed)
Any thoughts about those?
On the subject of the demo version of the app... Is the only thing that's different between that and the pro version that the spacebar is mapped to: _This_is_a_demo_version!_?
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The versions are identical apart from the space button and some strings (demo vs pro, buy vs rate) so you can test out everything before buying.
You really should try the application shortcuts. Choose apps for A0 to AF and enter A0 to AF instead of characters when doing a custom layout. You could put the Email app on Alt+E and Gmail on Alt+G etc... Setting it up could be bit more userfriendly but once you figure it out it is not that hard to do.
Have got the pro version now and the overall effect is not much worse than the keyboard was under honeycomb so thanks very much.
Have setup a few short cuts (chrome and Gmail) and mapped them to some of the otherwise non-working function keys so that's great too.
I have AOKP Milestone 6 installed and I love how it looks, especially the Hide Notification Bar option because it makes my TF feel more like a netbook when I have it docked. The only problem is that the long press shortcuts don't work on the keyboard (ex. long pressing the home key doesn't give me the recent apps menu, it just brings me to the home screen).
I was wondering if there was a way to re-map some of the shortcut keys in the top row (bluetooth toggle, camera, internet, etc...) to my own custom actions such as launching the recent apps menu, killing a window and bringing up the notification bar. I know it's possible to do this in Linux since I just did it for a remote that I use with XBMC (the remote emulates a keyboard), I just didn't know if they feature is extended to Android or not.
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its possible but not easy. Some things can be remapped in the users/ect files such as ausec.(c something) but other more complex things like recent apps have to be done in framework-res.apk as far as i remember
Check out /system/usr/keylayout/asusec.kl.
I'm not sure if you can map keys to specific things like killing a window or bringing up the notification bar. However, recent apps is accessible through alt+tab (try it!) and so you may want to swap the Search and Alt keys.
EDIT: Some useful key names to look for and replace:
ALT_LEFT: left alt
ALT_RIGHT: right alt
SEARCH: search key
FORWARD_DEL: delete, as opposed to backspace. not mapped to anything by default
ESCAPE: escape key. I have this bound to the wifi key because I always accidentally hit it, and sometimes escape is useful in terminals or remote desktop
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Check out /system/usr/keylayout/asusec.kl.
I'm not sure if you can map keys to specific things like killing a window or bringing up the notification bar. However, recent apps is accessible through alt+tab (try it!) and so you may want to swap the Search and Alt keys.
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Thats right usr/keylayout not user/ect don't know what i was thinking there. I know there is a way to exchange the stupid alt-tab icon recent apps to the cards recent apps but i don't have time to do that right now. I was also going to work on getting a guide set up on how to remap everything because it seems to be a pretty common desire.
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Found it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1450138
Thanks for the info guys, I'll give it a try! I definitely think I'm going to stick with AOKP for a while since it seems to give me the best experience since I've had my TF (over a year).
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brando56894 said:
Thanks for the info guys, I'll give it a try! I definitely think I'm going to stick with AOKP for a while since it seems to give me the best experience since I've had my TF (over a year).
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Have anyone result at this field ?
Is it possible to disable ALT-TAB (that switch android apps)?
I need this combination bee free for RDP.
I'm combining two questions/issues here so I don't fill up this forum.
1. I heard a rumor (or read it somewhere going through this forum?) that the custom ROMs for the 3113 rarely implement the IR drivers as a means of being more compatible with other versions of this tablet. Is this true? Are there ROMs that support IR? As a TS owner, this is fairly important.
2. Nova launcher - perhaps this is more of a complaint session than a question: On every device I've owned, I've seen hacks and mods to attempt to get "tablet mode" working on a 7" device. Overall, I believe the attempt is to get launchers to look more tablet like. Yes, the soft buttons move to the left, and the menu locations change, but overall, I'm assuming the holy grail everyone is searching for is the tablet look on the launchers.
I saw a support section on the Nova website where the developer stated that creating phablet and tablet modes was hokey and pointless (paraphrasing). My question would be, has anyone attempted to mod Nova to support a tablet mode on a 7" device? Really all we're asking for here is to move the side located launch bar to the bottom, allow the side margins to change pages, and put the search bar on the top.
Is this really that big of a deal??? What is it with this belief that a 7" tablet owner should be happy with a phone interface, and why are the devs of the launchers too stubborn to give us the option to decide how we want our layout? Is there something I'm missing here?
I've been through every launcher ever made (practically), and to date, I've only seen one offshoot of ADW do what we're asking, but unfortunately, performance was down, it was a little buggy, and I believe the dev may not have been babying the development.
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I'm combining two questions/issues here so I don't fill up this forum.
1. I heard a rumor (or read it somewhere going through this forum?) that the custom ROMs for the 3113 rarely implement the IR drivers as a means of being more compatible with other versions of this tablet. Is this true? Are there ROMs that support IR? As a TS owner, this is fairly important.
2. Nova launcher - perhaps this is more of a complaint session than a question: On every device I've owned, I've seen hacks and mods to attempt to get "tablet mode" working on a 7" device. Overall, I believe the attempt is to get launchers to look more tablet like. Yes, the soft buttons move to the left, and the menu locations change, but overall, I'm assuming the holy grail everyone is searching for is the tablet look on the launchers.
I saw a support section on the Nova website where the developer stated that creating phablet and tablet modes was hokey and pointless (paraphrasing). My question would be, has anyone attempted to mod Nova to support a tablet mode on a 7" device? Really all we're asking for here is to move the side located launch bar to the bottom, allow the side margins to change pages, and put the search bar on the top.
Is this really that big of a deal??? What is it with this belief that a 7" tablet owner should be happy with a phone interface, and why are the devs of the launchers too stubborn to give us the option to decide how we want our layout? Is there something I'm missing here?
I've been through every launcher ever made (practically), and to date, I've only seen one offshoot of ADW do what we're asking, but unfortunately, performance was down, it was a little buggy, and I believe the dev may not have been babying the development.
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1. To the best of my knowledge, the IR issue is based on the fact that it is proprietary software that belongs to Samsung - and they have not released the code, or given permission, etc for it to be used. The only "custom" roms that will have the IR option will be those using a stock Samsung rom as its base.
2. I cannot respond to the Nova Launcher question
Regards,
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1. To the best of my knowledge, the IR issue is based on the fact that it is proprietary software that belongs to Samsung - and they have not released the code, or given permission, etc for it to be used. The only "custom" roms that will have the IR option will be those using a stock Samsung rom as its base.
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Ah... That clears up a lot. Unfortunate as I thought Samsung was one of the leaders in open sourcing their code.
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I'm combining two questions/issues here so I don't fill up this forum.
1. I heard a rumor (or read it somewhere going through this forum?) that the custom ROMs for the 3113 rarely implement the IR drivers as a means of being more compatible with other versions of this tablet. Is this true? Are there ROMs that support IR? As a TS owner, this is fairly important.
2. Nova launcher - perhaps this is more of a complaint session than a question: On every device I've owned, I've seen hacks and mods to attempt to get "tablet mode" working on a 7" device. Overall, I believe the attempt is to get launchers to look more tablet like. Yes, the soft buttons move to the left, and the menu locations change, but overall, I'm assuming the holy grail everyone is searching for is the tablet look on the launchers.
I saw a support section on the Nova website where the developer stated that creating phablet and tablet modes was hokey and pointless (paraphrasing). My question would be, has anyone attempted to mod Nova to support a tablet mode on a 7" device? Really all we're asking for here is to move the side located launch bar to the bottom, allow the side margins to change pages, and put the search bar on the top.
Is this really that big of a deal??? What is it with this belief that a 7" tablet owner should be happy with a phone interface, and why are the devs of the launchers too stubborn to give us the option to decide how we want our layout? Is there something I'm missing here?
I've been through every launcher ever made (practically), and to date, I've only seen one offshoot of ADW do what we're asking, but unfortunately, performance was down, it was a little buggy, and I believe the dev may not have been babying the development.
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To point 2, the phablet ui was pushed by Google in jellybean. It has nothing to do with the homescreen devs. If you use a tablet ui hack, Nova works fine.
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To point 2, the phablet ui was pushed by Google in jellybean. It has nothing to do with the homescreen devs. If you use a tablet ui hack, Nova works fine.
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Well, really all a homescreen dev would have to do is allow us to move the the dock and search in portrait, right? I understand that tablet ui moves a few of the menus, etc, but I myself don't care that much about that (maybe I'm alone on this?. The big potatoes for me is the main home ui as I really don't like the dock on the side...
The control moving would be nice, but much lower on my list.
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Doesn't ADW EX allow for the tablet-like homescreen option? I know you can put the dock on the bottom as opposed to the side, and the redesigned action bar can be put at the top. Only thing it doesn't do is put system UI in tablet mode.
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