I'm combining two questions/issues here so I don't fill up this forum.
1. I heard a rumor (or read it somewhere going through this forum?) that the custom ROMs for the 3113 rarely implement the IR drivers as a means of being more compatible with other versions of this tablet. Is this true? Are there ROMs that support IR? As a TS owner, this is fairly important.
2. Nova launcher - perhaps this is more of a complaint session than a question: On every device I've owned, I've seen hacks and mods to attempt to get "tablet mode" working on a 7" device. Overall, I believe the attempt is to get launchers to look more tablet like. Yes, the soft buttons move to the left, and the menu locations change, but overall, I'm assuming the holy grail everyone is searching for is the tablet look on the launchers.
I saw a support section on the Nova website where the developer stated that creating phablet and tablet modes was hokey and pointless (paraphrasing). My question would be, has anyone attempted to mod Nova to support a tablet mode on a 7" device? Really all we're asking for here is to move the side located launch bar to the bottom, allow the side margins to change pages, and put the search bar on the top.
Is this really that big of a deal??? What is it with this belief that a 7" tablet owner should be happy with a phone interface, and why are the devs of the launchers too stubborn to give us the option to decide how we want our layout? Is there something I'm missing here?
I've been through every launcher ever made (practically), and to date, I've only seen one offshoot of ADW do what we're asking, but unfortunately, performance was down, it was a little buggy, and I believe the dev may not have been babying the development.
majorpay said:
I'm combining two questions/issues here so I don't fill up this forum.
1. I heard a rumor (or read it somewhere going through this forum?) that the custom ROMs for the 3113 rarely implement the IR drivers as a means of being more compatible with other versions of this tablet. Is this true? Are there ROMs that support IR? As a TS owner, this is fairly important.
2. Nova launcher - perhaps this is more of a complaint session than a question: On every device I've owned, I've seen hacks and mods to attempt to get "tablet mode" working on a 7" device. Overall, I believe the attempt is to get launchers to look more tablet like. Yes, the soft buttons move to the left, and the menu locations change, but overall, I'm assuming the holy grail everyone is searching for is the tablet look on the launchers.
I saw a support section on the Nova website where the developer stated that creating phablet and tablet modes was hokey and pointless (paraphrasing). My question would be, has anyone attempted to mod Nova to support a tablet mode on a 7" device? Really all we're asking for here is to move the side located launch bar to the bottom, allow the side margins to change pages, and put the search bar on the top.
Is this really that big of a deal??? What is it with this belief that a 7" tablet owner should be happy with a phone interface, and why are the devs of the launchers too stubborn to give us the option to decide how we want our layout? Is there something I'm missing here?
I've been through every launcher ever made (practically), and to date, I've only seen one offshoot of ADW do what we're asking, but unfortunately, performance was down, it was a little buggy, and I believe the dev may not have been babying the development.
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1. To the best of my knowledge, the IR issue is based on the fact that it is proprietary software that belongs to Samsung - and they have not released the code, or given permission, etc for it to be used. The only "custom" roms that will have the IR option will be those using a stock Samsung rom as its base.
2. I cannot respond to the Nova Launcher question
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bill_in_mtl said:
1. To the best of my knowledge, the IR issue is based on the fact that it is proprietary software that belongs to Samsung - and they have not released the code, or given permission, etc for it to be used. The only "custom" roms that will have the IR option will be those using a stock Samsung rom as its base.
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Ah... That clears up a lot. Unfortunate as I thought Samsung was one of the leaders in open sourcing their code.
majorpay said:
I'm combining two questions/issues here so I don't fill up this forum.
1. I heard a rumor (or read it somewhere going through this forum?) that the custom ROMs for the 3113 rarely implement the IR drivers as a means of being more compatible with other versions of this tablet. Is this true? Are there ROMs that support IR? As a TS owner, this is fairly important.
2. Nova launcher - perhaps this is more of a complaint session than a question: On every device I've owned, I've seen hacks and mods to attempt to get "tablet mode" working on a 7" device. Overall, I believe the attempt is to get launchers to look more tablet like. Yes, the soft buttons move to the left, and the menu locations change, but overall, I'm assuming the holy grail everyone is searching for is the tablet look on the launchers.
I saw a support section on the Nova website where the developer stated that creating phablet and tablet modes was hokey and pointless (paraphrasing). My question would be, has anyone attempted to mod Nova to support a tablet mode on a 7" device? Really all we're asking for here is to move the side located launch bar to the bottom, allow the side margins to change pages, and put the search bar on the top.
Is this really that big of a deal??? What is it with this belief that a 7" tablet owner should be happy with a phone interface, and why are the devs of the launchers too stubborn to give us the option to decide how we want our layout? Is there something I'm missing here?
I've been through every launcher ever made (practically), and to date, I've only seen one offshoot of ADW do what we're asking, but unfortunately, performance was down, it was a little buggy, and I believe the dev may not have been babying the development.
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To point 2, the phablet ui was pushed by Google in jellybean. It has nothing to do with the homescreen devs. If you use a tablet ui hack, Nova works fine.
SonicJoe said:
To point 2, the phablet ui was pushed by Google in jellybean. It has nothing to do with the homescreen devs. If you use a tablet ui hack, Nova works fine.
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Well, really all a homescreen dev would have to do is allow us to move the the dock and search in portrait, right? I understand that tablet ui moves a few of the menus, etc, but I myself don't care that much about that (maybe I'm alone on this?. The big potatoes for me is the main home ui as I really don't like the dock on the side...
The control moving would be nice, but much lower on my list.
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Doesn't ADW EX allow for the tablet-like homescreen option? I know you can put the dock on the bottom as opposed to the side, and the redesigned action bar can be put at the top. Only thing it doesn't do is put system UI in tablet mode.
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Finally got my hands on my G Tablet today. I must have the newer one that Rushless mentioned...mine appeared to be a finished product right out of the box. Even the TNT UI seemed to work pretty well. I think it's got a little ways to go to be "great", but it was pretty good already.
Anyway, I installed TNT light after about an hour. I wanted the Android Market and wanted to see YouTube working. Rooting and installing the new ROM was easy, but it leaves me wanting a hybrid of the two interfaces. Most ROMS (maybe all ROMS?) are put together with the idea of running on a smartphone. The TNT UI from Viewsonic seemed to be pretty well thought out for use on a Tablet.
So, my question is this: Are there any Market apps that would mimic the homescreen layout of a tablet? I can't see staying with the TNT Lite UI because it's just like having a giant cell phone. Reminds me of those giant calculators you buy as a gag-gift for old people!
I like the flexibility of TNT Lite. Choose my own background, no restrictions for apps, Flash works, etc. But the layout isn't really "tablet-like".
What do you guys suggest for apps? Or, is there a way to recreate the panels that TNT has?
Thanks!
i think it may be nice to just find really nice widgets. you'll be able to build it all how you want and still have a fast and responsive ui
Agreed. But so far I haven't found any Widgets that are the right size for the G Tab. Anyone have any suggestions?
Maybe I should ask this another way (to hopefully get more responses ).
Is there a way to customize the stock TapNTap ROM that comes standard on the G Tab? It would be nice to have their panelled layout AND customize the background images, colors, etc.
I wonder how hard it would be for someone to develop a Froyo based ROM that is specifically made for a 10" tablet. I've done a little development in my past, but only Windows based stuff.
Have you tried Beautiful Widgets?
If you want a "tablet-like" UI. You can try one of those HC roms~
a HC rom is the way to go for the tablet-like UI, but search for keywords like "tablet" when in the android market for tablet supported apps
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Have you tried Beautiful Widgets?
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you really ressurected an 8 month old thread to give a guy advice on the UI? Countless roms and launchers have been developed since then, I sincerely doubt that he's still having issues 8 months later.
Hello guys,
Now that BT is working on my Nook Color, I'll use it as a netbook pretty often.
That's why I might need to kiss my portrait-only homescreen goodbye.
Now my previous homescreen was portrait-only for a reason: I think it's just impossible to have a functional, constistent layout for both portrait AND landscape mode. Every launcher I've tried squeezes the same rows/columns-setting over landscape mode when switching, breaking almost every layout that might have made sense before.
I know that completely independent row-settings for both modes would probably cause more problems than it would solve, but what about independent layouts? I wouldn't mind setting up 2 homescreens if I knew it was worth it.
Is there any launcher that has this functionality?
Or is there any program like home switcher that can start different launchers depending on the screen rotation?
Sweeter Home lets you design your own layout.
And it uses separate layouts for Portrait and Landscape.
If only one of the two is defined, then it squashes one onto the other like regular launchers. Or you could lock it in to one orientation like I do.
Right now it's in public beta, but pretty much release-worthy. Only "downside" is updating it every few months when the nag popup appears - all settings transfer over, so nothing is lost.
Hm....I'm currently giving this another try. When I first looked at it, it left me in a state of confusion
Now I'm still confused, but I have started to create tablet theme that suits my needs. Let's see where this will end up.
This launcher has loads of potential despite its horrible, horrible interface. Seriously, this must be meant as a parody of bad interfaces. They really make you suffer before you finally end up with your own perfect theme. Per apera ad astra.
I think im just starting to realize how much i used keyboard shortcuts on my laptop. I love the shortcuts listed in the general information thread, but imo there are still a number of missing ones...
I wonder whether that's something that could be developed? Right now the most annoying one I miss is switching tabs in the browser, and I suppose that one would be difficult to add in. But other than that things like shortcuts to specific apps or to switch between them (a la alt+tab) or for copy paste...
Any devs looking app ideas...
theres nothing made yet, but i seriously think that it's possible.
If you look at the emulators you can bind any key on the keyboard (with certain exceptions) to anything.
so i don't see any reason why it's not possible. someone just has to figure out how.
personally i'd bind the FN key to the recent apps popup.
So I'm curious about looks vs. functionality
Each one of my little drawings here satisfy both.
First off, I apologize for being a retard and using cam scanner to make these images sideways (although they were right side up originally).
Seeing as I can't attach images directly from my phone onto this site, I had to email them to myself, download them and then re attach.
Also another retard thing, I made a home button (app) thing on both of them even though there is a physical one on the phone itself.
Have a look
Also clarify with me which is which (theme or ROM).
How hard is it to design/engineer this and actually have everything function properly?
Theme/ROM 1
Them/ROM
it looks like you want to pull the whole status bar to the bottom of your phone. i didnt think you could just move that stuff around. a Dev would would be able to give u a yes or no.
im leaning more towards a theme than a Rom. but you can only theme what the Rom has. and NO rom has that, that i know of. so its like a combination of both.
Those drawings appear to be a significant layout overhaul, a la Sense and Touchwiz
It would either be:
1) a full-blown ROM
2) A replacement for a number of system apps (but could be an add-on), at the very least the launcher and probably the lockscreen
More than just basic theming, that's for sure.
Well it certainly gives the phone a neater, "in my opinion more efficient" functionality.
The one with the radial app dial, that spins, (you guys probably could tell that already) can fit either 7 or 8 apps.
When you press the home button the phone app automatically aligns directly above the said home button (non physical assuming there are 7 apps not 8).
The apps that go on the radial thing-a-ma-jig are your primary apps.
However since that non-physical home button is not needed, then the phone would be in the center or perhaps you'd like the browser.
In any case whichever app you use most extensively (ie #1).
I certainly cannot do any of the ROM creating but I was hoping to spark interest with the ones who are able to do so with ease.
The one with the triangle side bars (next image) these have 1-3 icons on them, when you tap that icon the first time a box will come up over lapping everything else in the background (or with slight opacity) and that gives you more detail rather than just an icon.
I think it would be neat as hell if this was done.
So is it like, theme = aesthetics ; rom = function
In this case I'd like to do both.
Also the capability to assign any app in that 7-8 slot (radial) would also be nice.
Perhaps done through the command prompt.
This is a feature I picked up from a blackberry (ability to assign any icon to a specific design/theme).
Thanks for the interest, I'm going to try and fix the orientation.
Some of what you're looking to do (the home-dial concept) may be doable without any ROM development at all - after all, plenty of launchers are installable as apps and what you're describing there is a launcher concept.
Notification bar moving could be a lot harder though.
FYI I'm a kernel guy not an app developer, so I can't help you much other than say that I'm fairly certain one of the features you want to implement can be done as a launcher app for any ROM.
Alright alright, we're sifting through sonething here.
I have very little knowledge od 'kernel' 'launchable' 'rom' as far as developing them goes. Are there tutorials ? (search bar probably)
Thanks for your contributions
What about color (borders keys etc)
Nice drawings man
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Hey thanks DevilDogAK
It's one thing to draw the idea by hand but to actually create it with code...
That's where the tires hit the road one might say.
I need to do some reading to get an idea of what I have to accomplish.
Thanks for the interest, as always it starts with a dream
I'll let you guys know whats up when I actually get to the point of dev
But team work goes a long way (hint hint hint)
sweet... great concept imo, & hey, cyanogen started with just a concept. wish i knew more to help you out, but we're with you in spirit nice drawings too lol
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About the launcher comment, does having two mean more computing power needed to run the first and second launcher or can I just do one primary launcher?
If I can just move things around, what about putting some notification components under the wheel? Components such as the wifi toggle and the data image or perhaps the data and battery.
Anyone smart enough to do that probably isn't dicking around on XDA. You never know though.
Well... I'm here
Haha just kidding, I do wish somebody with some experience knowledge (ie developer of Serendipity etc... ) a man can dream... a man can dream.
Greetings! Just joined! Let me start first by saying, thank you for xda and thank you all who contribute and make it the best place to find new cool things for our android phones! This site is one of the most important ones for android stuff. Amazing.
First, the background story:
Im a Sony lover ever since i bought my first Sony Ericsson t610 as a kid (still one of the best phones ever created ) and kept with the brand ever since.
Currently i own Sony Xperia e4g (E2003) on KitKat 4.4.4. Thats all the tech stuff i know about it. xD
I unlocked bootloader, have TWRP as recovery and is rooted managing with SuperSU.
I extremely love the UI of it but no infinite scroll is really bugging me. I found a temporary solution by finding this amazingness:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2103403
The original question simplified:
Can i somehow edit my phones launcher and somehow combine with the one i just linked to?
Of course i want to make it so i can install it on a different phone as well, if and when i buy a different Xperia phone.
The issue i have are that i really dont like some UI elements, I just want the functionality. Im a minimalistic/simplistic kind of guy so Xperia has the perfect UI for me. And no, no launcher gave me any substitute so far, i tried most of them.
I want to try and build my own launcher combining the best of both and maybe as i learn and progress, add even more cool stuff.
But for now, im kinda looking to port my phones launcher and add functionality from another.
Can someone help me achieve this or point me in the right direction?
Detailed changes im looking for:
First, i want to port the launcher so it works on other phones.
Add infinite scroll.
Keep all the design elements (i guess png files, maybe im calling it wrong) and only fill in elements from the linked launcher to functions that my launcher doesnt have by default. Ill design the rest of the elements to fit my phones launcher theme.
I want to remove the Z launchers app drawer top items and switch it for the stock one. Much less intrusive.
So, in essence, keep the look from E and add the functionality like, self close or open last functions from Z.
You can check the difference here for the app drawers:
https://imgur.com/a/7XsWZ
The E has a much cleaner look. I want it by default, i would add settings to choose the style from either E or Z.
Id keep the E look and just add the functionality buttons that Z gives. Id redesign most of those icons to fit the theme tho.
Desktop settings, Home and NavBar buttons.
https://imgur.com/a/64aqF
Id also like to edit the navbar buttons themselves and change them to now new triangle,circle and cube. But id also like to switch recent apps and back buttons but i dont think thats possible from within a launcher. So ill figure that out later.
And for last, i would switch the bar on the bar icons with the one from Xperia T launcher but i cant find a download for it and dont own a T version phone.
Please help and thank you for your time reading this wall. xD