I'm wondering for the g-tablet what the "best" ROM is at the moment and why you think so. Seems like TnT Lite was the one last updated from what I can tell so that's an advantage. I'm partial to cyanogen though since it's what I used on my phone. Just wondering what others thought and if any of them are more stable or have some better feature than another.
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I'm wondering for the g-tablet what the "best" ROM is at the moment and why you think so. Seems like TnT Lite was the one last updated from what I can tell so that's an advantage. I'm partial to cyanogen though since it's what I used on my phone. Just wondering what others thought and if any of them are more stable or have some better feature than another.
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I've tried Cyan 7 beta 1 and TnT Lite 4.1 and TnT Lite 4.1 is faster and seemingly stable within the time period that I used it. Cyan 7 beta 1 is nice, but it feels a bit slow and it's not final, of course so you'd have to factor in possibly wiping the device to install a more current version when it does become stable. Haven't tried the others out of seeing other users having issues and installs borking people's tablets.
If I had to choose a 'best' right now, which of course may be premature not seeing the rest, but I'd pick TnT 4.1 for the few simple facts that it seems close enough to stock (I like being close to stock) and it feels quick and works very well from what I've seen. It didn't have the lag issue and didn't crash.
Of course I'm also sort of being a hypocrite because I only tend to stay on ROMs for a day or 2 and then go back to stock because of all the issues I see people reporting with even "stable" ROMs and since I don't have nor have ever encountered dire trouble on stock.
Ide Choose Vegan 5.1 Beta Becouse Honestly I Dont really Like TnT at all. Vegan 5.1 B Is fast and pretty stable. Cyanogen has bugs but it looks like it will have somthing sooner or later so for now ide go with Vegan or if you preffer TnT. They Are the most stable atm.
I tried all three and Vegan 5.1 Beta seemed to be the most stable and quickest. I'm sticking with it until gingerbread is out.
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I tried all three and Vegan 5.1 Beta seemed to be the most stable and quickest. I'm sticking with it until gingerbread is out.
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seconded, I also have tried all three. Vegan seems to be the best for daily use with the updated kernel.
I'm very interested in purchasing the viewsonic-g tab but am wondering if there are any stable ROMs yet? I see several options but would like to have one that I can depend on and not have constant force closings and such. I'm still the proud owner of a G1 and run Anddisa's-magpie builds...they are not labled stable but I have no issues with them...I guess I'm wondering if I buy the viewsonic-g and flash custom roms will I be able to enjoy or not???
Stock is stable,tnt lite,vegan etc, most are stable
You will also enjoy unlimited storage (2gb is not unlimited but close)
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for the most part there are some stable ones, but you will have your fair share of experimenting to be honest.
roms work fine
I have been very pleased with vegan 5.1.1 and the clemsyn kernel. Stable,and most things work. I have messed up the tab any number of times, but usually due to some app that interferes with things. (Just got through wiping out the swype keyboard, suggest you avoid that one...yahoo messenger has a background job that is a pig... stuff like that)
I use this for work as well, and it has been terrific.
Of course, that said, I will probably flash the vegan gingerbread kernel when it is tagged as beta.
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I have been very pleased with vegan 5.1.1 and the clemsyn kernel. Stable,and most things work.
Of course, that said, I will probably flash the vegan gingerbread kernel when it is tagged as beta.
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Exact same thing here. Jump on VEGAn beta 5.1.1 and you wont have any problems. I had one issue and it was crap app related. I just make a backup once I have all my base apps on. That way I can flash back if, lets say, I instal the leaked flash 10.2 and it frags my tab into bootlooping.
Nothing is truely stable. Back up with clockwork and invest in titanium Backup.
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Which do you prefer?
I started from Vegan 5.1.1 I really liked 5.1.1 but whenever the kiddos would play some of their games, it would crash and I had to repartition SD card. I love Titanium
So got tired of having to repartition due to crashes went to Vegan HoneyComb after one of the crashes. Had some cool things and worked pretty good, but too sluggish for me.
Then I went to Vegan GE and liked it very much. However, I had a couple of apps that kept freezing. Other than those two apps, I really liked it and found it better than 5.1.1 The only weirdness was that I had to install MOBO Player and set it up for "soft decoding" to view some of my videos. When I got the freezes, I never had to repartition or anything. It handled crashes very well.
Out of curiosity, I tried CM7.0.3 and have absolutely loved it. I still needed the MOBO Player tip, but everything else was great. It was snappy and worked very well. In 4 days I have not crashed once. Another perceived benefit is that I believe that the sleep battery drain is a lot less than Vegan. I have not done empirical testing, so take it with a grain of salt.
Bottom line, I like CM7 the best with Vegan GE a very close second. I liked the Vegan keyboard better and thats why I installed Thumb Keyboard and now I am 100% happy in CM7.
::cough:: Brilliant Corners ::cough::
VEGAn-GE is built off CM7.0 source.
CM has moved from CM7.0 to CM7.03 (stable release).
Both VEGAn-GE and CM7.0 were nice....but CM has moved on to CM7.03 (many nightly versions in between 7.00-7.03) with significant code updates/cleanups and features.
Both CM7.03 and Vegan ge seams the same ... and as I understand based on Android 2.3. It would be interested to evaluate CM 7.03 versus TNT lite(I assume it based on original android 2.2 firmware ) based on stability and hardware support?
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::cough:: Brilliant Corners ::cough::
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YEP.............
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::cough:: That's Froyo based ::cough::
I tried CM7 between TNT Lite 4.4 and VEGAn-TAB GE. I noticed right away that it was faster but the only reason I didn't stick with it is that it didn't use a full featured browser.
Haven't looked at it yet, but found it in my normal scan (I didn't have the build number that high before, so I must have missed it the last few weeks):
http://tapntap.http.internapcdn.net/tapntap/viewsonic/update-smb_a1002-5274-user.zip
EO July build date. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK, as always. I'm going to dissect this tomorrow or Saturday and, if there's anything of importance in there, I'll make a Mountain Laurel update out of it (if the power stays on, of course - Irene, please be kind!).
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Haven't looked at it yet, but found it in my normal scan (I didn't have the build number that high before, so I must have missed it the last few weeks):
http://tapntap.http.internapcdn.net/tapntap/viewsonic/update-smb_a1002-5274-user.zip
EO July build date. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK, as always. I'm going to dissect this tomorrow or Saturday and, if there's anything of importance in there, I'll make a Mountain Laurel update out of it (if the power stays on, of course - Irene, please be kind!).
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Awesome, looking forward to your findings...
HIGH DEFINITION VIDEO PLAYBACK IS FIXED, with this build (it was broken in all the previous 1.2 stock ROMS -- 3991, 4349 and I believe 4950). I use the same 1080p main profile video for all my baseline tests, and it's working in 5274 stock.
That, in itself, is a good enough reason to deploy this into Mountain Laurel. However, I have to test if I need to use their kernel or not, so more testing would be needed. Worst case, I'd deploy with their kernel, like I used to do with TNT Lite - but of course I still need to check sleep.
This thing also has a newer bootloader, but Mountain Laurel always includes that. Might be related to the video fix, but again not certain without further testing.
As for other changes, probably nothing much - I'm seeing only the usual app and framework files being touched post 4950, the Wifi was touched as well libvodm_query. The camera is still mirrored incorrectly, as it has been on all 1.2 builds.
EDIT: I have a prototype with the pershoot kernel, and video playback is still working. Awesome - good to see that this is finally fixed.
EDIT2: Pulling out the pershoot kernel and testing a "mostly stock" version, like I used to do with TNT Lite. If sleep is working and battery life seems improved, it might be worth going back to that type of release. If someone wants a custom kernel, it's fairly easy to add it on your own.
I think they finally "got it right" with this 5274, going on my testing so far. A worthy successor to 3588 and 4349 stock, imo.
EDIT3: Spoke too soon - sleep issues are cropping up. Might need to keep pershoot's kernel after all -- no worries.
Outstanding work Roe.
When you say new bootloader, do you mean 1.2 or do you mean something else?
It's still 1.2 based - but it's got a newer timestamp, and I have a reliable source that tells me that it's been tweaked. Btw, my ML update is released - I stuck with a 3.0.0 with a stock kernel, as that's what I used to do for TNT Lite. Pershoot / Clem kernels can always be installed by the user, if they wanted. (I had retested sleep on a clean machine, no apps, and had no SOD).
Btw, it seems very obvious to me that the 1.1 branch is now long dead. TapnTap have only done 1.2-based work for the Olipad and Hannspad these last few months, the Adam has been 1.2 since almost Day One, and all the GTAB TapnTap work since March (3991, 4349, 4950 and now 5274) are all 1.2-based.
Sooner or later there will be a stock release, and it will almost certainly be 1.2-based, again. I would argue that this 5274 may very well be their next GA release, it's just a question of when. I hope Cyanagenmod will eventually swing over.
Very awesome Roe. I have been using Vegan 5.1.1 with VTL mainly because it covers *my* basic needs: PvZ, Keyboard/mouse, hardware acceleration, HD video. ANd I dodn't need to bother going to a 1.2 ROM. I think now is the time to go 1.2 and check out a newer ROM.
One question: does Mountain Laurel suffer from the media delete issue? Is .nomedia required? Not being able to access media on Vegan 5.1.1 (after applying the .nomedia fix) is kind of lousy.
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It's still 1.2 based - but it's got a newer timestamp, and I have a reliable source that tells me that it's been tweaked. Btw, my ML update is released - I stuck with a 3.0.0 with a stock kernel, as that's what I used to do for TNT Lite. Pershoot / Clem kernels can always be installed by the user, if they wanted. (I had retested sleep on a clean machine, no apps, and had no SOD).
Btw, it seems very obvious to me that the 1.1 branch is now long dead. TapnTap have only done 1.2-based work for the Olipad and Hannspad these last few months, the Adam has been 1.2 since almost Day One, and all the GTAB TapnTap work since March (3991, 4349, 4950 and now 5274) are all 1.2-based.
Sooner or later there will be a stock release, and it will almost certainly be 1.2-based, again. I would argue that this 5274 may very well be their next GA release, it's just a question of when. I hope Cyanagenmod will eventually swing over.
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Will you repack as a nvflash package, wait for the GA, or none of these?
Actually, one more question: did you try the stock 5274 ROM and see if it ran any better than before? My biggest complaint with stock was that it was so slow, but I always liked the LOOK of it, especially the weather app.
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Very awesome Roe. I have been using Vegan 5.1.1 with VTL mainly because it covers *my* basic needs: PvZ, Keyboard/mouse, hardware acceleration, HD video. ANd I dodn't need to bother going to a 1.2 ROM. I think now is the time to go 1.2 and check out a newer ROM.
One question: does Mountain Laurel suffer from the media delete issue? Is .nomedia required? Not being able to access media on Vegan 5.1.1 (after applying the .nomedia fix) is kind of lousy.
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From limited testing, I had no issues - for example none of my video test files got wiped. But only time will tell and it is a new kernel.
Btw, good point on PvZ - wish I knew what it was about the old VEGAn build kernel that makes it stable.
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Actually, one more question: did you try the stock 5274 ROM and see if it ran any better than before? My biggest complaint with stock was that it was so slow, but I always liked the LOOK of it, especially the weather app.
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I'd have to go back and test things on builds 3991 / 4249 / 4950, but I would say that it feels snappier than 3588 for sure. And Nenamark / SmartBench scores seem to back that up. So far it really feels like a solid stock Froyo ROM and it's a shame that there are stock users with the ancient 3588 build that still don't have the option to get this ROM the "supported" way.
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I'm going to wait until next week and, assuming the new Mountain Laurel mod I just released doesn't have any serious issues, I'm going to update my 4349-based nvflash to 5274. I probably won't wait for GA, because I could be waiting a long time.
@roebeet awesome work as usual... I'm really really impressed with the speed of your releases... fantastic work... thanks a million for making my GTab well worth the money I spent!!
Hello Roebeet. How was your much deserved break?
Would this happen to have the market included? If not would old methods of getting it on work?
Would you recommend pershoots or clemsyns kernel, what is difference other than 1400 compared to 1500?
Also would you happen to know if than old nvrdaemon file/hack from back in the day than dexter put out would work?
Its been a while seen running stock, always liked it but took honeycomb plunge. Thinking about going back to hassle free stock, flash and hd playback is a plus!
I would think the performance is better than 3588, 4349??? I do miss the back to top of page tab in 3588 browser that 4349 didnt have. Saved a boat of scrolling. Is that option back?
Thanks and hope all is well with weather, I noticed your in western pa, im 20 min from Philadelphia and its not looking all that hot. Need something to do while cooped up. This sounds like it could be fun to tinker with!
Let me answer some questions which I'm sure off...
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Would this happen to have the market included? If not would old methods of getting it on work?
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Market 3.1.3 (latest Market to date) is included in ML3.0.0... along with the olympus (Motorola Atrix) build props...
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Would you recommend pershoots or clemsyns kernel, what is difference other than 1400 compared to 1500?
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Honestly, I think pershoot's kernel is better... It is updated more frequently and includes some latest Tegra changes... and OC to 1400 is definitely much more stable than OC to 1500... without any real noticeable difference (maybe some full HD videos might work a bit better at 1500)
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I would think the performance is better than 3588, 4349??? I do miss the back to top of page tab in 3588 browser that 4349 didnt have. Saved a boat of scrolling. Is that option back?
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It is definitely smoother than the previous versions (3588, 4349, etc.), but no, there is no "scroll to top" option in the browser...
I took the plunge and installed this update to see if it would fix the SOD I have been experiencing on all 1.2bl based roms. Did the following:
Booted to CWM
Cleared user data
Clear dalvik cache
Formatted cache, system, data, sdcard
Copied file to internal memory and renamed to update.zip
Installed from CWM using update.zip
Clear data, cache, dalvik cache
Reboot
Finish setup and make sure everything works.
Downloaded Flashback 7.2 to sdcard
Clear cache, data, dalvik
Reboot and enjoy.
Funny thing is my tablet still has SOD with every honeycomb rom i tried. Only time i dont is on 1.1bl based honeycomb roms. Everything else is working fine.
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Let me answer some questions which I'm sure off...
Market 3.1.3 (latest Market to date) is included in ML3.0.0... along with the olympus (Motorola Atrix) build props...
Honestly, I think pershoot's kernel is better... It is updated more frequently and includes some latest Tegra changes... and OC to 1400 is definitely much more stable than OC to 1500... without any real noticeable difference (maybe some full HD videos might work a bit better at 1500)
It is definitely smoother than the previous versions (3588, 4349, etc.), but no, there is no "scroll to top" option in the browser...
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I agree, yes its smoother.
You are correct that pershoots has been updated, did not think about that.
Bummer on the back to top tap. I think its stupid that they removed that. It was mighty convienent.
Now, what are you talking about with the market. It does not have it. What's the atrix talk about?
Sleep of Death?
What does that entail?
For each and every 1.2 bootloader version from TnT (only TnT), I have problems with the home screen crashing unless I change it on 1st boot to Classic. It happended with Mountain Laurel too, yes the new Roebeet version of this week in included in that.
The home screen will crash as soon as I unlock the screen, unless I have changed it in the previous boot. So, I leave it on Classic. I have ML installed, homescreen changed to classic. All my software installed and now its time for a CWM backup.
Am I experiencing the SoD?
Roe,
It's been a looooonng while since I flashed a stock TnT update but if this is stable I would like to update my wife's Gtab to this most current one. Can you point me in the direction of the market and accelerometer fixes along with anything else I might be forgetting? I would just put Mountain Laurel on hers but she likes the stock TnT interface, besides she is not tech minded so I am keeping hers mostly stock with just the necessary fixes. I really do wish there was some way I could talk you into doing a modified stock TnT update.zip (stock with all the fixes already included). Thanks for all that you do and here's to hoping that you and your family made it through Irene OK.
thx -- still picking up the pieces post-Irene (basement was flooded so I'm ripping out the carpeting today).
As for ML, the install actually loads a stock image first, then I layer all the custom changes afterwards. So, if you enjoy a little trial and error, you could look into the update.zip and alter it to your needs. For the TnT apps, I first delete them and, in some cases, overlay them with stock apps - so you'd need to look at both the updater-script and /system folder, for what you want to alter.
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thx -- still picking up the pieces post-Irene (basement was flooded so I'm ripping out the carpeting today).
As for ML, the install actually loads a stock image first, then I layer all the custom changes afterwards. So, if you enjoy a little trial and error, you could look into the update.zip and alter it to your needs. For the TnT apps, I first delete them and, in some cases, overlay them with stock apps - so you'd need to look at both the updater-script and /system folder, for what you want to alter.
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Hope all is well. Good luck with basement. Near Philly I only lost power about six hours sat night into sun, but being under tornado warning in our county and having one roll down our street last year, the old ladyhad us sleep down basement sat night. Basement floor is not comfy.
Anyways what is the best way to go about getting market on this. Been a long time since running stock. Kinda like it but missing market.
One other thing, remember in 3588, while browsing we had the back to top tab that saved alot of scrolling in browser. Also when you would click something in the browser the top bar would drop down and you would see the progress icon so you would know your press registered. Why they did away with these things I don't get, it made the browser much more user friendly, is there a way to bring those two things back?
Never really noticed those before, but my guess is that the Browser apk could be replaced from the 52xx one to the 3588 one, to see if that functionality returns.
Roebeet, do you make any changes to boot.img except to add the ML image?
Also, is anyone seeing any problems booting with 5274? I can't get my gtab to boot with it. Just sits on the boot animation forever.. like hours.. until the screen jsut goes off. Then you can tap power and it comes right back to the boot animation, almost like sleep mode during the boot.
I'm coming from LG Revolution land and my girlfriend has the MT. She wants her phone to be like mine and be able to tether, get rid of the dumb VM boot animation (and the power off animation if possible), and have a different theme more like mine which is kindof like GB but at the same time completely different. Any help would be awesome.
Thanks in advance to anyone who helps me.
Also, I'm a major fan of the thanks button and I hit it everytime someone helps me out.
Let's see...
PunkROM has a couple extra themed apps and in some respects looks more like Gingerbread and sometimes a little different; it's also been out longer than mine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1262589
I built Black Lightning off Gingerbread (and PunkROM!) as a base, and integrated the safest and most stable-looking mods. So it's minimal, but theoretically powerful too if it needs to be.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1281340
Princely ROM has a Gingerbread-themed version. I can't say much about it because I haven't used it (much) and remember even less.
http://androidforums.com/triumph-al...ons-gingerbread-rbt-bbw-purple-honeycomb.html
And... that's about it. There are other ROMs but
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PunkROM has a couple extra themed apps and in some respects looks more like Gingerbread and sometimes a little different; it's also been out longer than mine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1262589
I built Black Lightning off Gingerbread (and PunkROM!) as a base, and integrated the safest and most stable-looking mods. So it's minimal, but theoretically powerful too if it needs to be.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1281340
Princely ROM has a Gingerbread-themed version. I can't say much about it because I haven't used it (much) and remember even less.
http://androidforums.com/triumph-al...ons-gingerbread-rbt-bbw-purple-honeycomb.html
And... that's about it. There are other ROMs but
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Hey thanks. Sorry about the wait on the reply. I don't check the mt forum very often. I'll probably be doing this tomorrow so be ready for some questions lol. Also, what is the most updated version of cwm for this phone?
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It's 5.x and also around here somewhere.
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Just downloaded it. Thanks. Will have to wait to put it on the phone though.
I just installed CM7 and its amazing, I cant believe how functional it is already. Pretty much everything works.
MIUI is the best
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I've tried them all except for punk and its come down to bouncing back and forth between cm7 and miui. why would you settle for froyo when gingerbread is so stable now? For a minute miui was the best but now that the beta cm7 are fully functional and butter smooth I am finding myself less inclined to flash and that is amazing! Ruined my Samsung captivate while I was still learning, be very careful going back to froyo roms from gingerbread on that one. Darkys killed it! My Triumph however seems unbrickable and is overclocked and stable. The stock rom was a joke and I got rid of that clumsy bastard the third day. Thanx to all the devs for working hard and kikin ass!
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I've tried them all except for punk and its come down to bouncing back and forth between cm7 and miui. why would you settle for froyo when gingerbread is so stable now? For a minute miui was the best but now that the beta cm7 are fully functional and butter smooth I am finding myself less inclined to flash and that is amazing! Ruined my Samsung captivate while I was still learning, be very careful going back to froyo roms from gingerbread on that one. Darkys killed it! My Triumph however seems unbrickable and is overclocked and stable. The stock rom was a joke and I got rid of that clumsy bastard the third day. Thanx to all the devs for working hard and kikin ass!
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How did you go about overclocking? I tried to use the CM settings and it didn't let me just ave me the options to cancel
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How did you go about overclocking? I tried to use the CM settings and it didn't let me just ave me the options to cancel
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In CM7 - You don't--at this time anyways--unless you don't mind certain things not working since the only kernel is old and outdated at this time or unless you build your own OC kernel for CM7.
There's a couple of OC kernels available for FROYO roms atm. Just check the Dev section.
I use no frills PC. It's free on the market
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MIUI is the best.
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Cm7 is pretty good although still in beta stages. But that means it can only get better
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CM7 or MIUI are good ROMs, now they have worked out most of the bugs for this phone besides HDMI and something with camera mirror.
I switched over from the Optimus V and I have a gtablet, im really pleased by CM7 on this phone. I haven't had any problems at all, and the battery life with the last two releases on CM7 is great.
I will try the MIUI ROM as well though, I just chose CM7 because I have had prior experience with it.
I've never had any problems with my phone on the stock-ish ROM, but then again even on my desktop Skype appears to be mirrored (although the other side is okay)... from what I've heard, this is the way desktop Skype works.
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I've never had any problems with my phone on the stock-ish ROM, but then again even on my desktop Skype appears to be mirrored (although the other side is okay)... from what I've heard, this is the way desktop Skype works.
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I believe the HDMI and Mirroring problem are the custom ROM bugs, but I didn't stay on stock ROM longer then one day to find out how it was.
I am used to rooting and custom ROM's now, for me it's interesting to try different things out customizing my phone.
Edit: sorry for the confusion if I implied that HDMI and Mirroring on the camera are stock ROM bugs.
I'm refusing to switch to the Gingerbread Cyanogen mod simply because it doesn't have hdmi output. Even though I can't use the HDMI output anyway. There's probably a pill to alleviate that.
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I'm refusing to switch to the Gingerbread Cyanogen mod simply because it doesn't have hdmi output. Even though I can't use the HDMI output anyway. There's probably a pill to alleviate that.
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I'm refusing until you can use wifi with bluetooth, and the niggling audio bugs I keep reading about go away.
I hear that the gingerbread development is winding down now, so we may just be stuck with current cm7 and miui for a while...without fixes.
If I could just figure out what is killing battery so much faster than my optimus V, I'd be happy....
b_randon15 has a newer cm7 kernel that he claims takes care of the wifi/bluetooth issue. I'd give it a try, but I cant get clockwork to work!
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b_randon15 has a newer cm7 kernel that he claims takes care of the wifi/bluetooth issue. I'd give it a try, but I cant get clockwork to work!
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I used both last night simultaneously with that kernel. Worked fine
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