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Is Froyo Stable?

so now that there is a froyo leak out for our phones, is it stable enough to update to it? i was thinking of going for the cognition v2.2 froyo, but obviously dont want a ton on unreliability problems lol...so whats the status on that?

I can't speak to cognition, but I have been running Froyo since it came out a few days ago (no root or lagfix) and it seems fine. Some have complained about lag - if it is there, it is not near as bad as stock 2.1. Others have said the browser has a memory leak - i have not run into that yet either.
Overall the plusses outway the minuses. I am happy with it so far. I have not had any crashes or FCs and the GPS is no worse then JH7. Unless i find a show stopper issue, I will keep it for now.

oh cool, so is it a final release of froyo or was it just a beta leak?

SiL3nTKiLL said:
oh cool, so is it a final release of froyo or was it just a beta leak?
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I would call it Beta. There is still stuff that looks like they ported the i9000 Rom over and they still need to do a little clean up. Some EU spellings of things, some minor bugs, Wireless AP and USB tether are present.
I think this is the 2.2 Captivate Base that they will build from. A solid Beta, but not the final.

It has been running fine for me. Once Rom Manager gets updated things will be great. Only AppsInstaller doesn't work for me but its not really that big of a deal.

This FROYO is actually very stable in that everything works perfect.............Have been running for 24 hrs barely so theres a bit more testing needed but yea its definately a GO . At first i got a couple of force closes on several of stock apps like music, phone, and a couple of others but only happend once and never happen again kind of like if it was still setting up or something but besides that and some odd color changes 2.2 is stunning i notice an overall snappier feel market 2x quiker (i dont use lag fix because it ruinned my OS a few times thats just me) and with root enabled the limitations are infinate

I've only been using it for half the day, but I have to say that samsung fixed most of the little annoying problems with this phone. We finally got the phone we paid for with the exception of lag. It's still there, but the one click lag fix solves that. All in all,i recommend the update. Especially with cognition.

cognition 2.2
I'm running the most recent release of Cognition 2.2 for Froyo with the built in one click lag fix. (Even though I really didn't even need to run the lag fix, its that smooth) It is sick. Phone is just silky smooth in all aspects. The only thing I noticed was that flash was slowing the browser down a little, but only on super large pages with tons of plug ins like huffingtonpost so I set the plug in setting to "on demand" and now I can't find a page large enough to slow down the browser. I put it next to my friends new Iphone4 and it was embarassing how much faster the Captivate was loading pages. Only things that arent working on 2.2 yet are titanium backup, which you really shouldnt use for this anyway since you don't want to install 2.1 apps on the 2.2 update, and Rom manager, but I fully expect that with the level of support we've seen from the Rom dev, he will have it updated in no time as well as an update for Titanium. Overall, I almost feel for the first time that I no longer need to scour the forums looking for ways to improve the phone. It is just sick (have I said how sick it is?) how well it runs with Cognition. GPS works perfectly, and I don't mean just getting locks. I put it on my dash and have been driving around a lot for two days and My Tracks is right on. My position does not drift off the road AT ALL anymore. No more being on other streets and otherwise just drifting around all nilly willy. GPS Test shows at least 6 or 7 locked satellites and usually 9 or 10 locked. I don't think I would get better performance out of a Garmin or Tom Tom. It does get better sat locks on the dash with a clear view of the sky rather than in the cup holder in the center console however, but that is to be expected with any GPS device. Even so, it was still fully functional in the cupholer.
I installed by Odin one click back to stock, did a GSM Master Reset via the phone keypad *2767*3855# then rooted, put the downloaded Cognition 2.2 file on my internal sd card, and then installed with Rom Manager, (works because I'm back on 2.1 at this point) I HIGHLY recommend this. I'm not sure what I'm going to do with all the spare time I just freed up by not having to flash my phone a million more times
P.S. If you can, donate a few bucks to DesignGears for the work he has done with this. It's totally worth it! It's amazing that he's gotten a ROM out so fast with the release and he is constantly working on, upgrading, and tweaking his work to make it better. (which is why im sure I'll be flashing again in the future /cry)

cognition 2.2
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elco27 said:
Open internet browser and go to "cnet dot com" Then select cnet TV.
Check if you can play any video from that webpage.
On 2.1 there is no problem playng them.
On 2.2 you cant play them.
This is just one of i9000 froyo's problems.
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What does that have to do with Froyo as a stable OS?

I just opened Cnet tv and I could play the video.

elco27 said:
Open internet browser and go to "cnet dot com" Then select cnet TV.
Check if you can play any video from that webpage.
On 2.1 there is no problem playng them.
On 2.2 you cant play them.
This is just one of i9000 froyo's problems.
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I can play them. Just click the names. 2.2 stock 'beta'.

Go to pocketnow.com (full desktop version) and click through a few articles there. Muhahaha. Scrolling will become ultra slow, other apps will be forced out of memory, and you may even get a browser crash if you're lucky. That's the memory leak bug.

gtg465x said:
Go to pocketnow.com (full desktop version) and click through a few articles there. Muhahaha. Scrolling will become ultra slow, other apps will be forced out of memory, and you may even get a browser crash if you're lucky. That's the memory leak bug.
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Huh? No, that did not happen. Whaa? No mem leak.

carterman said:
Huh? No, that did not happen. Whaa? No mem leak.
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Go to the site and open your task manager. Is the browser not using about 100 MB of memory? Memeory leak.

The FroYo build is stable and fast. I like it.

I rolled back. It is stable - but some of the underlying features are broken. Forwarding emails does not include any comments you make. Google contact groups now work, but the listed names map to the wrong contacts.
Some nice improvements overall, but some issues are show stoppers for me. It won't crash though - or at least it didn't for me.

Has anyone tried enabling jit on this? I know it was attempted on 2.1 but no one made it past the lock screen before it bootlooped on the galaxy s. 2.2 is made for jit & it should be more stable now right? All I could find in the forums is how to do this for other phones like the droid x (sounds pretty unstable though) & im too much of a noob to figure out how to apply that to my captivate to try it.
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Froyo has been pretty stable for me, and certainly better overall than 2.1 was. It still needs work to have what I would call a well-polished feel, but overall I find it to be an upgrade.
I'm hoping it is a beta, and we'll get an even better one soon

metalmansam said:
Has anyone tried enabling jit on this? I know it was attempted on 2.1 but no one made it past the lock screen before it bootlooped on the galaxy s. 2.2 is made for jit & it should be more stable now right? All I could find in the forums is how to do this for other phones like the droid x (sounds pretty unstable though) & im too much of a noob to figure out how to apply that to my captivate to try it.
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JIT is already enabled.

[Q] New G-Tablet owner in love! ROM advice needed.

Hi everyone! I just picked up a "reconditioned" Viewsonic G-Tablet from Sears for $279. It looks brand new, but I can tell it's been removed from the box and then re-packed. The prior owner must have decided it wasn't right for him/her after just turning it on! Well, lucky for me.
I'm not liking the Tap N Tap UI much so I'm looking at other ROMs. I've read all the threads here about Vegan, TNT Lite, Harmony, Zpad and CM ROMs but I can't decide. I've ruled out the Zpad and CM ROMs because they don't seem to be as polished/finished and they don't seem to be actively developed. Of the remaining ROMs (Vegan, TNT Lite and Harmony) can anybody tell what the main differences or advantages/disadvantages are between them? I'd love to hear personal opinions about why you chose one ROM over another.
My main concerns are speed, smoothness, stability and app support. Good Flash support is essential. I know I can just install each ROM and try them all myself, but I'm worried that just playing with each ROM for a short time I may not notice/realize each ROMs key features and shortcomings. Any help is greatly appreciated!

The winner for android 2.2 is Vegan 5.11. People just love it and it is in my gtab for personal use.
The winner for android 2.3 seems to be vegan experimentals. Even if it is not fully functional it seems it has catched attention from people around.
Personally i would recomend vegan 5.11 until vegan(android 2.3) comes out or a good rom of Honeycomb(android 3.0) is usable[Maybe tomorrow-maybe in a month].
Vegan 5.11 because it is very stable and performs really fast. Almost no fc in common apps(maybe in some games like those of gameloft) but it is very stable, fast and usefull overall.

You will probably get lots of suggestions as the ROM of the week changes as the Devs make changes or add functionality. For today I think your best choice is Vegan Tab beta 5.1. Unless you have to have cutting edge, I suggest not adding supplement 5.1.1 as some users have had issues, Follow the directions carefully and you will have a tablet that you will be happy with.

You will certainly get quite a few recommendations and such for each of the ROMS, but in the end I think that actually installing each one and giving it a whirl is the best way to see what works for YOU personally. There are plusses and minuses for all the ROMS, but in the end I believe it comes down to what is pleasing and what works for the individual - plus, the more you flash the easier it is

Try vegan first it's my personal favorite.

I highly recommend TnT Lite 4.2.x
A quick read through the VegaN thread will show you that some users have issues, some don't. I woudlnt and didn't take the chance as I'm less about the tinkering and more about the functionality of the tablet.
I've never had issues with TnT Lite. I was on 3.x and I went back to stock for a while but went back to 4.2 and have been with it since.

I'll second the TnT lite. Only issue I've had is market fixes. May not be a fault on our end as it seems alot of folks, tablet and phone owners are having issues with the droid market web page.
I tried Vegan as my first rom and got bored w/ it. was gonna try cyanogen but did the TnT lite rom instead. Haven't look back since.
But Rom's are a personal choice. try all of them and make ur decision from there, as each one has it's pro's and con's.

Casting my vote for VEGAn 5.1 Beta (Without the 5.1.1 supplement)
It will be my daily driver until either the VEGAn/Cyanogen Merge has an RC or until someone puts out a Honeycomb Port since the full system dump was just put out in the wild!!

Thanks a LOT for the replies so far. Seems like Vegan has a slight edge over TNT Lite in the voting so far.
Just curious, for those who chose TNT Lite over Vegan (or vise versa) after trying both, what were your reasons? Is one faster or smoother or better looking? More stable? I'm probably going to stick with 2.2 until the 2.3 ROMs stabilize.
Some said they switched to TNT Lite after using Vegan because they got bored with Vegan... why?

I've used both and lean towards VEGAn over tnt-lite. My reasons...VEGAn is closer to stock android and tnt-lite had too much stock tapntap still there.
Both are great but I had more market issues with tnt-lite.
Sent from my Viewsonic 10" GTab...

Running TnT Lite 4.23 here. Have used VegaN in the past as well as trying out CM7 and earlier versions of TnT. I'll agree with the other posters that you need to try them out for yourself, either VegaN or TnT should make you VERY happy. One of the biggest differences between the two is that TnT is a modified version of stock software, taking out most of the TnT UI. VegaN on the other hand appears to be based on the phone version of 2.2 but does open up the settings menus as well as other things associated with 2. that in TnT Lite might not be accessible, more of a "pure" 2.2.

Thanks for all the replies! I'm reading this forum even as I'm working to root my new GTab! But I've run into a problem. I hope I'm not thread-jacking my own thread, but I'm having trouble installing Clockwork Mod Recovery.
I'm following the sticky How To Guide and I've unzipped the "internal" version of the CWM to the root of the internal SDCARD. When I hold the power and volume + button to boot into recovery I get the Viewsonic splash screen with "Detect a recovery key pressed" and "Booting recovery kernal image" in the upper left corner. But then nothing. It just stays on this screen forever. I waited for 15-20 minutes just in case.
Any ideas?

Neoprimal said:
I highly recommend TnT Lite 4.2.x
A quick read through the VegaN thread will show you that some users have issues, some don't. I woudlnt and didn't take the chance as I'm less about the tinkering and more about the functionality of the tablet.
I've never had issues with TnT Lite. I was on 3.x and I went back to stock for a while but went back to 4.2 and have been with it since.
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How did you go back to stock, I was thinking of that to see the fixes that Viewsonic has put out there. I am using TnT lite as well and like it except that my browser keeps closing.

fireheatfrank said:
How did you go back to stock, I was thinking of that to see the fixes that Viewsonic has put out there. I am using TnT lite as well and like it except that my browser keeps closing.
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There's a CWM friendly official VS update, I can't remember which one it is now.
I'd really have to go back and look into it. I flashed that through CWM and got stock and it did not overwrite CWM or affect anything in a negative way. I updated through the OTAs and they did not overwrite CWM either. Some people remove a line from the script but there's 1 version that doesn't attempt to even touch CWM....it's either 3053, 3316 or 3389. I'm really sorry that I can't remember which one.
I haven't experienced any force closing, I use Dolphin HD.
Also, the dev. that author's TnT Lite (Roebeet) I believe bases it on the newest stock releases according to the info, so you're getting any fixes offered in the stock with TnT, plus extra ones that are tried and true created by other devs.
Wtang:
If I remember correctly, you have to have that update and also a recovery directory....so if you just have the update.zip maybe you're missing something.
This is from the How to install Clockwork, Mods etc. thread:
"Step 1.
Download ClockworkMod v08 (This version has been found to work best...the newer version causes some issues with some ROMs.) There are two versions available; one for installing ClockworkMod from the internal memory, one for installing it from external memory (microSD/microSDHC card).
Step 2.
Unzip the file you chose (cwmod_internal.zip OR cwmod_microsd.zip) to the root folder on the storage option of your choice.
So, for example, if the storage option you chose has the drive letter “F:” assigned to it when hooked up to your computer, you would want it to look something like this…
A folder located at “F:\recovery”
A file located at “F:\update.zip”
Note that it's probably best to unzip this to your desktop and then manually copy them over to the tablet. That way you know everything is there.
Also, regarding preferring TnT Lite, for me personally I didn't bother with VegaN at all because of the sheer number of issues and problems I've read occurring with it in the VegaN thread. As I mentioned, maybe some people are lucky and it's flawless or some are unlucky and have issues. I don't want to risk it. Since I never had ANY issues with TnT Lite, it's what I prefer. While "close to stock" is nice, we have to consider that 2.2 was never meant for tablets. There's the pro that you get to more settings (like accounts and sync, for eg), but the con that it's an interwoven framework where there are now extra files and processes running that aren't necessary for a tablet at all, but necessary for the OS in general. That's how software works, process A is unnecessary for anything else than for phone use, but process F may depend on it somehow, and the OS may need process K which requires F to run a program you DO use on the tablet.
Since I don't find TnT Lite lacking in any way, I stayed with it. VegaN may full well be 'better' in some way, I just decided to stick with what works and has worked for me.
machine73:
For some reason the market is flawless on my Tab and I did nothing special. I even successfully send installs to it from the market. It doesn't show up as compatible for some, that's understandable though.

wtang said:
I've unzipped the "internal" version of the CWM to the root of the internal SDCARD....Any ideas?
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I've always used the "external" version on a microSD and never had a problem so that might be worth a try.
Also for what it's worth, I've been using the G-Harmony ROM and loving it. It is very nice and peppy. Everything works like it seems it should. I would very highly recommend it. I had put it on a couple G-Tabs for people who have asked after they seen mine and they love it as well. And after just watching the review of the Xoom on Engadget with HoneyComb, I don't think I'm in a hurry to upgrade to HC just yet especially since Flash is working just fine on my G-Tab right with G-Harmony.

Got CWM installed... what a pain.
Thanks for all the replies and help! What a bunch of friendly and helpful people here!
I tried both the internal and external SD card versions of CWM with no luck. I also made sure I had both the update.zip file and the recovery folder with the command file. The problem was something totally different.
I finally fixed the CWM problem. I think whoever owned my GTab before did some hacking on it... I see that superuser.apk was installed. Anyway I think the previous owner must have deleted the recovery image by accident. There was no recovery at all on my GTab, so that's why I couldn't boot into recovery to flash CWM. I had to use nvflash to install CWM over an APX connection from my PC. Pain the *ss but it worked!
Now on to installing some ROMs!!!

[Q] Stock or not

We just picked up a brand new GTab from a coworker for a steal (he bought it, didn't like it, and is going with a netbook instead). I've done a bunch of reading already, but have a LOT more to read before I do too much.
I do have a question though...
I like the idea of a nice interface, and kind of like the interface of the stock rom, however it's a bit useless without market, etc. However, I don't really want it to look like an over-grown android phone. I'm leaning towards TnT Lite, but so far undecided.
So, my question is... If I just go with the idea of rooting it and adding Market/Flash/Etc, what am I going to miss that I'd get with a new rom? I assume some speed? Noticeable? Anything else?
I haven't seen a lot of screenshots of TnTLite...will I be satisfied with it, or will I just feel like my evo's screen grew even larger? (I know you can't say if I will be satisfied or not, but how is it? is it really much different then a stock Android screen?)

Some people modify theirs to look exactly like their phone, others prefer the different more tablet like interface. I know with tnt lite 4.3 you have the option of using both classic and tap n' tap home screens. The speed is awesome especially with clemsyns new kernel (also fixes power off durring sleep issue) and it gets full market at first boot, no extra tweeks necessary to get it working.
Good luck,

well the market after boot without hassle isn't bad.
But I just read the 3991 thread, which included Roebeet's initial speed test. Still worth going with TnTLite or waiting until/if 3991 comes out?
To ask a bit differently...a) how much speed improvement would I see with TnTLite?
b) how tough is rooting this thing? I've rooted several Evo's and a pair of Pandigitals, so I've done it before, but no idea how the GTab compares. c)how painful is getting the market to work? I don't mind a little work, but I don't want to have to study for a week to get it working...I have enough on my plate already
And finally, c) any other reasons beyond speed to jump to TnTL? (note, I don't mind jumping, but I want to make sure I know what it gains me first)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245
This link tell everything step by step. Its really the easiest recovery & rom install I have ever done.
No need to root first and all custom roms come with root/superuser.
Stock tnt has a quadrant score around 1500 to 1800
Tnt lite has a quadrant score around 2300 to 2500
Basically your going to notice a difference in higher end functionality. Video, internet, gaming as well as a mild boost in everyday use.
As far as reasons to jump, I'm the kind of person that always has to see for myself. One of the fist things you do after installing bekits .8 recovery is to back up your current rom. That way if you don't like what you see you can just wipe data/cash and davlic cash, then restore your previous backup no harm done.
Its hard to list all the small improvements with tnt lite over stock. I can tell you though, after using custom roms with clemsyns kernel its almost painful anymore to play with the gtabs at office depot.
Oh and if your going to move to another rom I would suggest you invest in titanium backup as it saves all your apps, app data and user data(wi-fi connections, passwords, account settings) so you can instantly restore them to your new rom. Instead of installing all your apps again from the market and loosing any saved data all you have to do I'd download titanium backup again an run a batch restore and BAM everything is back.
Hope that answers some more of your questions

I am completely biased of course, but I would recommend TNT Lite with one of the custom kernels. I find it to be much better than stock.
But, another item to consider -- you can always backout. There are stock ROMs in one of the FAQ's (look at mine, for example). So, if you play around with some of these mods and don't like them, you can go back. Just read up on the instructions and you should be good to go.
3588 (the latest stock) cannot hold a candle to the other mods here. Viewsonic has a new firmware cooking , but for some reason it's taking them FOREVER to release.

How to install a custom Kernel with TNT Lite 4.3.2
roebeet,
Could you expand on how to install a custom kernel with TNT lite 4.3.2. I couldn't find any instructions on the clemsyn kernel thread.
Thanks

brs330 said:
roebeet,
Could you expand on how to install a custom kernel with TNT lite 4.3.2. I couldn't find any instructions on the clemsyn kernel thread.
Thanks
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It's mod agnostic - seems to work on TNT (Lite), VEGAn or zPad. It's in an "update.zip" format, so you'd just need a tool like clockworkmod to install it. That's pretty much it!
You might want to PM clemsyn to confirm (or post to his thread), but from what I can tell it's pretty much an update.zip, nothing more.

Thanks for the help.
I installed 4.30 along with the .32 Supp (or at least I think i did...not sure how to verify that that's installed, but once 4.30 was running, i deleted the .zip and the restore folder, copied over the supp files and power on-vol up again....I *think* it installed things)
First, wow is this faster than stock, even without doing a kernel update.
Second, all I have is the phone-looking interfaec. I went to Home Switcher for Froyo (assumed that was the place to switch?) but in there the only option I have is for the com.android.launcher, so how do I get back to the other home screen?
Again, thanks for the help so far, and the incredible performance enhancement.

[Q] Fastest/Reliable ROM?

So i bought the Gtab to root and loving the device so far! I didn't really know which ROM to pick so I went with Vegan Ginger RC1...
My question is, which ROM runs the fastest (clean, crisp) and is most reliable. After searching around, I really dont need gingerbread but I am huge on speed. Any suggestions for a newb? Thanks

I really like CyanogenMod 7. It's fast and the stable versions are always reliable. They also release "nightlies", which come out every night and have the latest features and bug fixes; however, the stable versions are released quite often (I think more often than most ROMs for the gtab), so I usually stick with those since I know they're going to work well. A lot of people will tell you to go with a froyo ROM because they have the hardware video acceleration drivers, but I honestly didn't see any improvement in video playback or compatibility (HD or standard def) over CM7 when I tried VEGAn TAB 5.1.1 (a froyo based ROM).
I'm also interested in trying the honeycomb port for the gtab, but since that's still in the alpha stages and many things still aren't working, I'm planning on sticking with CM7 until that becomes more stable. Regardless, when the Ice Cream Sandwich source is released, I'll probably go back to CyanogenMod, since they'll probably have a working ROM of it before anyone else (that's how it went when the gingerbread source was released [at least on the EVO; I don't know about the gtab, since I didn't have one at that point]).

Hey thanks for the reply.. i think i would like to get the latest froyo release.. how would i know the latest stable version of a froyo release?
Thanks again
raphenucleus said:
I really like CyanogenMod 7. It's fast and the stable versions are always reliable. They also release "nightlies", which come out every night and have the latest features and bug fixes; however, the stable versions are released quite often (I think more often than most ROMs for the gtab), so I usually stick with those since I know they're going to work well. A lot of people will tell you to go with a froyo ROM because they have the hardware video acceleration drivers, but I honestly didn't see any improvement in video playback or compatibility (HD or standard def) over CM7 when I tried VEGAn TAB 5.1.1 (a froyo based ROM).
I'm also interested in trying the honeycomb port for the gtab, but since that's still in the alpha stages and many things still aren't working, I'm planning on sticking with CM7 until that becomes more stable. Regardless, when the Ice Cream Sandwich source is released, I'll probably go back to CyanogenMod, since they'll probably have a working ROM of it before anyone else (that's how it went when the gingerbread source was released [at least on the EVO; I don't know about the gtab, since I didn't have one at that point]).
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dreday28 said:
Hey thanks for the reply.. i think i would like to get the latest froyo release.. how would i know the latest stable version of a froyo release?
Thanks again
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CyanogenMod 6 was Froyo-based, but I did a quick search of the cyanogenmod site and I couldn't find any links for it, so I'm not sure if it's available any more. If you want to go with Froyo, I'd say go with VEGAn-TAB 5.1.1 or Calkulin. There are other Froyo-based ROMs floating around, but the two I mentioned seem to be the most popular. You can find links to both of those in the Development section of this forum.
Another thing to think about is kernels. Most people seem to say use Clemsyn for Froyo and Pershoot for Gingerbread.

Get up to date with the 1.2 boot loader; then for a FroYo build use Roebeet's Brilliant Corners.
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dreday28 said:
Hey thanks for the reply.. i think i would like to get the latest froyo release.. how would i know the latest stable version of a froyo release?
Thanks again
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+1 for VEGAn 5.1.1. It's fast and reliable. That and the free VTL Launcher makes the gTab a thing of beauty. It boots up fast too. I've got 2 gTabs (one running VEGAn 5.1.1 and the other running CyanogenMod 7.0.3) the one with CyanogenMod takes almost 2 minutes to start from a cold boot while the one with the VEGAn loads up for me in about 35~40 seconds.
CyanogenMod does let me watch Netflix on one of my gTabs which is the one thing the VEGAn 5.1.1 gTab doesn't let me do. On the flipside, the VEGAn gTab plays all of my ripped dvds with no problems while the CyanogenMod gTab won't play any of my xvid-avi movies even with Rockplayer or Mobo Player. Everytime I try and start a movie on the CyanogenMod gTab it acts like it will begin to play and then closes the player without any errors or messages. I've read on some threads that the CM rom is picky about the frame rate of the movies and the suggestions were to lessen the quality which sounds like a crap solution.
Anyway, I'm running both for their pros and cons and if you don't care about Netflix and you do care about speed then I would definitely recommend the VEGAn 5.1.1.
Good luck.

sjmoreno said:
+1 for VEGAn 5.1.1. It's fast and reliable. That and the free VTL Launcher makes the gTab a thing of beauty. It boots up fast too. I've got 2 gTabs (one running VEGAn 5.1.1 and the other running CyanogenMod 7.0.3) the one with CyanogenMod takes almost 2 minutes to start from a cold boot while the one with the VEGAn loads up for me in about 35~40 seconds.
CyanogenMod does let me watch Netflix on one of my gTabs which is the one thing the VEGAn 5.1.1 gTab doesn't let me do. On the flipside, the VEGAn gTab plays all of my ripped dvds with no problems while the CyanogenMod gTab won't play any of my xvid-avi movies even with Rockplayer or Mobo Player. Everytime I try and start a movie on the CyanogenMod gTab it acts like it will begin to play and then closes the player without any errors or messages. I've read on some threads that the CM rom is picky about the frame rate of the movies and the suggestions were to lessen the quality which sounds like a crap solution.
Anyway, I'm running both for their pros and cons and if you don't care about Netflix and you do care about speed then I would definitely recommend the VEGAn 5.1.1.
Good luck.
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I got Vegan Ginger Edition and it takes maybe 2 mins to start. I know 5.1 and 7.0 are not the same...but aren't they cousins? So why does mine take 2 mins to start

imdaman99 said:
I got Vegan Ginger Edition and it takes maybe 2 mins to start. I know 5.1 and 7.0 are not the same...but aren't they cousins? So why does mine take 2 mins to start
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You could say they're cousins in the sense that they were built by the same dev, but with one being froyo and the other being gingerbread the code that they're built off of is quite a bit different. I believe VEGAn ginger is based off of CM7, which is why they both take so long to load; I read somewhere that it has to do with the native libs being unpacked for everything at boot.

Another vote for Brilliant Corners
If you're not adventurous enough to delve into Bottle of Smoke or another HC alpha port, Brilliant Corners is a great, stable and fast environment.
By the way, "many" things are not issues with HC ROMs, just a few. Read up, but you will have to go to slatedroid for it.
Here's a starting point, if you are interested. http://www.slatedroid.com/forum/199-viewsonic-g-tablet-12-rom-development/

raphenucleus said:
You could say they're cousins in the sense that they were built by the same dev, but with one being froyo and the other being gingerbread the code that they're built off of is quite a bit different. I believe VEGAn ginger is based off of CM7, which is why they both take so long to load; I read somewhere that it has to do with the native libs being unpacked for everything at boot.
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Totally. The more apps you load the longer it takes to load. Fresh stock with gapps load with 35 or so seconds of the boot animation. With my my 50 or so apps it take almost 3 min of looping the boot animation to start. Bonus is that unlike native gtab roms it doesn't randomly turn off during extended sleep.
I'm using cm7 for Netflix but the day it opens up to all android I'm moving back to the clemsyn+calkulin combo. Its fing fast and stable. Love that rom. I suggest everyone give it a whirl at least once.

Thanks for all the recommendation guys. So it seems vegan 5.1 will work best for me ..
Hows clemsyn+calkulin ? Since i dont care about netflix would you recommend it?

dreday28 said:
Thanks for all the recommendation guys. So it seems vegan 5.1 will work best for me ..
Hows clemsyn+calkulin ? Since i dont care about netflix would you recommend it?
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It is my favorite. Loved vegan 5 but Clem+calk is the fastest and most stable I have used. Its modified around his custom kernel and has a built in add blocker that is better than the add-on market app. Give it a flash Its my go to froyo rom.

How about this one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=985705
I dont care about overclocking, I found some Clem+Calk but they all say 1.5ghz so i assumed they came already OC'd, which would affect battery..
Mantara said:
It is my favorite. Loved vegan 5 but Clem+calk is the fastest and most stable I have used. Its modified around his custom kernel and has a built in add blocker that is better than the add-on market app. Give it a flash Its my go to froyo rom.
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Yeah that's the basis for the combo clemsyn put out. It has a feel like tnt lite but lots of cool tweaks. If you don't care about oc you should still use clemsyns+calkilins combo. You have to download CPU master from the market to activate the oc anyway. All in all the Clem+calk combo is where to go. There kernel just gives you the option to oc if you feel like it in the future.
Hope that helped.

Mantara,
Thanks again for your help. So i have one last question to ask before I flash the clemsyns+calkilins combo.
Does it matter what bootloader, or firmware I have? Because I have no idead what bootloader I have. I just bought the Gtab 2 weeks ago, and bricked my device because appearently I had a new stock firmware. had to use nvflash, clockworkmod, then flashed straight to vegan tab ginger edition..
Mantara said:
Yeah that's the basis for the combo clemsyn put out. It has a feel like tnt lite but lots of cool tweaks. If you don't care about oc you should still use clemsyns+calkilins combo. You have to download CPU master from the market to activate the oc anyway. All in all the Clem+calk combo is where to go. There kernel just gives you the option to oc if you feel like it in the future.
Hope that helped.
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Did you nvflash back to stock then load cwm? Was the cwm bekit.8 or the new one made by roebeet for the 1.2 bootloader?
Clemsyn just released a version 6 of his combo for the 1.2 bootloader if that's what you have. If you flashed back to stock bootloader use version 5.

I nvflashed back to stock rom, then used CW8.
So i use version 5...? any advantages of having 1.2?

Yep. You are on 1.1 bl now. 5 is what you want.
Only advantage to the 1.2 bootloader is honeycomb. There is active development being done on an Adam port of honeycomb for gtab and 1.2 is needed for that. It looks like the direction that future os releases will be under. So eventually when or if HC gets video drivers I will switch to 1.2. Untilled then I'm staying with Clem+calk and cm7.
Happy flashing

^^i wouldn't say the only benefit of 1.2 is HC....there are a few solid roms on 1.2 over @ SD.

vegan-Tab 7
why doesnt anybody recommend vegan 7 ginger edition? its a great tablet based rom. it automatically partitions the internal memory so you dont need an external sd card to install apps. i tried cm7, latest stable version for harmony, and it required a sd card to install anything (very annoying). i imagine there is quick fix but why bother when vegan7 takes care of it.

Any 165.1 roms yet?

I love bulletproof but no WiFi and my FB bein retarded sux...

I am on Bulletproof, and my wifi and Facebook are fine, maybe you got a bad flash?

Could be... Did you flash from 155 originally?
WiFi worked until I overclocked. If i put stock boot.img back WiFi works though.
Facebook works, but not the same as it used to. I can't look at pictures

hey sorry for the delay, but i finally got around to testing this. i am on the latest OTA/radio etc., and i got wifi to work on Bulletproof with the UV6 kernel.
Blue made me realize that you have to use the EXACT modules that came with the kernel you are flashing. he may have even pointed this out to us before!
so in your case, you could just flash the full kernel zip again, and it will install the appropriate modules without touching your boot image(since you are rooted but S-ON). or however you wanna do it, just get those very modules from the UV6 kernel into your system somehow, lol. (or from whichever kernel you wanna use)
again, sorry for the delay on this. hope you get it working right away!

Confused.... To get the kernel I had to fastboot flash boot.img...
So it already changed the boot image... Kernel won't apply with s-on correct?
yogi2010 said:
hey sorry for the delay, but i finally got around to testing this. i am on the latest OTA/radio etc., and i got wifi to work on Bulletproof with the UV6 kernel.
Blue made me realize that you have to use the EXACT modules that came with the kernel you are flashing. he may have even pointed this out to us before!
so in your case, you could just flash the full kernel zip again, and it will install the appropriate modules without touching your boot image(since you are rooted but S-ON). or however you wanna do it, just get those very modules from the UV6 kernel into your system somehow, lol. (or from whichever kernel you wanna use)
again, sorry for the delay on this. hope you get it working right away!
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nlarge said:
Confused.... To get the kernel I had to fastboot flash boot.img...
So it already changed the boot image... Kernel won't apply with s-on correct?
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fastboot flashing the boot image wasn't enough, you also need the exact same modules that came in the zip where you got the boot.img. from. so if you simply flash the full kernel zip in ClockworkMod, it should write those modules into your system, and wifi should fire right up once you boot up, since you already have the boot.img flashed.
if you know how to manually paste the modules into your system, you can do that too. they go in /system/lib/modules. then you set the permissions and reboot.

WiFi is back... Now if I could figure out why Facebook doesn't have all its features

nlarge said:
WiFi is back... Now if I could figure out why Facebook doesn't have all its features
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excellent!
which features of facebook do you mean? and do you mean Facebook for HTC Sense/Freindstream, or the Android FB app?
i have noticed that Friendstream is cool, but incomplete in some areas. when someone posts a pic, the app does a good job of retrieving that person's entire album, and it even displays it in the gallery i believe. BUT, it often doesn't retrieve the latest pic, which was THE pic you wanted to see! so that is annoying, and i think that is just how it is. there are a few other things as well.

It's the Android FB.... Facebook sense continually tries to update though...
If you go on someone's profile or timeline there is no ability to look at albums or info now. As a matter of fact there is no timeline display at all. I deleted and reinstalled... Same thing. It was fine before bulletproof.

nlarge said:
It's the Android FB.... Facebook sense continually tries to update though...
If you go on someone's profile or timeline there is no ability to look at albums or info now. As a matter of fact there is no timeline display at all. I deleted and reinstalled... Same thing. It was fine before bulletproof.
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yeah, i see what you mean about the Android FB app. is there a chance that they updated the app just recently, and maybe it's buggy? if not, then perhaps something was removed from the ROM that is needed for that? i'll let you know if i find anything out about it.

It's fine on my other slide with 155

I'll have to check my records and see what I removed regarding facebook. Pretty sure I left all libs and supporting files, so not sure what could be missing.
I don't have a facebook account, so can't check directly, and I've been pretty wiped out when I get done my shifts. Depending on traffic and what time they let me go in the morning I can get home anywhere between 8 and 9:30 AM.
I know this has been an issue bugging you for a while now, so I'll make an effort to focus on it when I get in tomorrow morning, some 8 or 9 hours from now.
Sent from a digital distance.

ok, i was just gonna say that there is probably a fix, like adding back something that was removed from the ROM, but i have been trying it again, and it is working every time. i tap on a contact's name and it brings up their profile page.
update: well, i have been able to get it bring up the person's profile every time, but something seems to be missing... namely, the bar at the bottom of the page that lets you select their Wall, Info, or Photos. well in any case, i can see those things on my Sidekick with the same app, but not on the MT4GS with Bulletproof and UV6 kernel. strange

Thanks for looking into it and making the comparison on even another device.
I'm not sure what's not right, i'm just in and going to see what I can browse through in my changelogs from one version to the next.
If anyone's feeling flash happy and willing to test it out though, is it any different on version 1.0 to version 1.1?
I've got both still available for download if anyone feels like checking into it, link for 1.0 is underneath 1.1 on the thread in the OP.
Hopefully I can come up with something to remedy the issue.
( I can't believe a day actually came that I kinda wished I had a facebook - getting involved with it would still represent a black mark on my conscience, but still...wow lol )
Thanks!

Ya I don't have a FB either. But it always seems like the FB app is giving one group or another problems. Doesn't it?
Typed by ---- oh wait! I'm schizophrenic!

Blue6IX said:
Thanks for looking into it and making the comparison on even another device.
I'm not sure what's not right, i'm just in and going to see what I can browse through in my changelogs from one version to the next.
If anyone's feeling flash happy and willing to test it out though, is it any different on version 1.0 to version 1.1?
I've got both still available for download if anyone feels like checking into it, link for 1.0 is underneath 1.1 on the thread in the OP.
Hopefully I can come up with something to remedy the issue.
( I can't believe a day actually came that I kinda wished I had a facebook - getting involved with it would still represent a black mark on my conscience, but still...wow lol )
Thanks!
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i tried it on Bulletproof 1.0, and it is behaving the same as on 1.1. i have noticed that on the Sidekick 4G, those choices on someone's profile page are usually there, but are ocasionally not... so i am getting closer to chalking it up to inconsistencies with the app itself, and/or the way the app interacts with the FB site. i kinda doubt there is anything with the ROM that would cause this, or at least anything that you could actually pinpoint. not positive, but leaning this way.
but, it is curious that i have yet to get those options on the MT4GS with the 2 Bulletproof ROMs, but can get them on the SK most of the time. i think it could also have to do with the FB Timeline feature, and with whose profiles have been converted over, and whose haven't.
i guess my final test will be to flash back to my nandroid of the stock 1.63.531.2 ROM, and see how it works there. i'll update this post once i do that

I have access to a mt4g slide with 155 and one with 165 and mine with bulletproof. Other than bulletproof both the others have the bar at the bottom with same FB app installed. It is definitely ROM related.
yogi2010 said:
i tried it on Bulletproof 1.0, and it is behaving the same as on 1.1. i have noticed that on the Sidekick 4G, those choices on someone's profile page are usually there, but are ocasionally not... so i am getting closer to chalking it up to inconsistencies with the app itself, and/or the way the app interacts with the FB site. i kinda doubt there is anything with the ROM that would cause this, or at least anything that you could actually pinpoint. not positive, but leaning this way.
but, it is curious that i have yet to get those options on the MT4GS with the 2 Bulletproof ROMs, but can get them on the SK most of the time. i think it could also have to do with the FB Timeline feature, and with whose profiles have been converted over, and whose haven't.
i guess my final test will be to flash back to my nandroid of the stock 1.63.531.2 ROM, and see how it works there. i'll update this post once i do that
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Also - yogi - thanks for checking 1.0 for me. I ran out of thanks today, so i'll have to remember to hit that later.
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I have access to a mt4g slide with 155 and one with 165 and mine with bulletproof. Other than bulletproof both the others have the bar at the bottom with same FB app installed. It is definitely ROM related.
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No arguments, and given what others have posted as well it seems most likely that something in Bulletproof doesn't agree with facebook.
Being as it's not a service I use, it's a bit difficult to troubleshoot, and while I run better a bit tired, i'm way past that threshold on this gig (can't believe i'm still up, actually, i've got to get up in 4 hours for a commitment before work)
I don't have work friday or saturday - but am finding myself spending friday morning when my shift ends until sometime saturday afternoon recuperating from the beating I take during the workweek. I'll give what time I can during the workweek on it, but can't promise any kind of coherent progress.
If it comes down to me having to sign up for a facebook account to fix it, it won't get fixed.
I do not agree with the facebook terms of service, and have no intentions of giving my data to that institution to sell off. Facebook is now selling off peoples pictures for product advertising and as a retail merchandiser if I had to stock product with my image on it i'd flip out and lose my job on the spot.
Beyond that, the big Z is unpredictable, and who knows what he'll authorize being done with the data they are mining in the future, but they are actively seeking any avenue possible to monetize the data they own (yes, they own all the data you put through facebook) - no thanks, I want nothing to do with all of that.
So, i'll do the best I can as I can, but there are very real limits to how far i'm willing to go in seeking a resolution to the matter.

nlarge said:
I have access to a mt4g slide with 155 and one with 165 and mine with bulletproof. Other than bulletproof both the others have the bar at the bottom with same FB app installed. It is definitely ROM related.
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yeah, i am also getting that bar at the bottom on my stock 1.63.531.2 setup... weird!

I'll give you my log in details for the cause. When you're done ill change my password. Does that work?