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I have been using TntLite 2.4 (waiting for 3.1) and like the way it's been working. However, it seems like the majority on this forum is currently using Vegan Rom.
Do you guys know something I don't ?
What is the main difference and why did you choose Vegan over Tnt lite?
I was under the impression that Vegan was more in the beta stage and Tnt was more stable.
greenmonsterland said:
I have been using TntLite 2.4 (waiting for 3.1) and like the way it's been working. However, it seems like the majority on this forum is currently using Vegan Rom.
Do you guys know something I don't ?
What is the main difference and why did you choose Vegan over Tnt lite?
I was under the impression that Vegan was more in the beta stage and Tnt was more stable.
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TnT Lite still has the overhead of the TnT framework(settings application, status bar). I think people get a little better responsiveness from Vegan. It is just a little bit closer to stock android. Additionally there have been some nice visual tweaks to Vegan with the gingerbread animations. That is why we advocate for using clockwork...you can try it and go back to what you had in a matter of minutes.
I've used both. VEGAn seems faster, but I believe that is primarily due to the screen effects on that ROM. Both roms score ~2400 on quadrant.
TnTLite is more stable (based on my experience). Don't get me wrong; VEGAn is a great rom, but it is in beta, and it's still plagued by a bunch of nit-noid issues (slow downs, processes stopping, etc.).
TnTLite is based off of TnT, so its foundation is a bit stronger. I haven't had a single issue with any version of TnTLite. Some folks have hiccups with installing the rom (this applies to any rom), but once loaded, TnTLite can be used as a daily driver by your mother. All joking aside, that's why I moved back off VEGAn to TnTLite....I'm giving the tablet as a gift and there's no way my father could troubleshoot the problems VEGAn still has.
VEGAn still uses a dual-core capable kernel like TNT does, right?
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VEGAn still uses a dual-core capable kernel like TNT does, right?
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Vegan is basically the Advent Vega ROM with the gut of TnT. It has the TnT kernel, and a good bit of the libraries, etc.
Why not try both? The both have their pros and cons, so if you use something like clockworkmod you can try both and back them up as you flip between the two.
I personally use VEGAn more than TnT Lite now, but everyone has their own requirements.
Yeah, I started with TNT, then when to Vegan Beta 1, then back to TNT, then to Vegan beta 3. Been on that for a couple of weeks and am really liking it. I am tossing around the idea of going to TNT lite 3 because I like the transparent task bar. Been trying to theme Vegan for it, but can't get the worked out. Anyway, it's all a matter of preference really. They both are very good and usable.
I switrched to VegaN from TNT Lite.
I like it a little more than TNT
One thing that bugs me about Vegan is the microsd can not be unmounted and is not visible in the system settings.
I appreciate that people may think that Vegan is less stable, but think Tap UI adds its own stability issues and is a root cause of issues- even with 3.0.
VS would be FAR better off simply adding a basic UI layer for hardware and chipset drivers and stick with a vanilla 2.2. Tap UI should be treated as a sunk cost and VS should just get away from it.
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This device would have been HUGE if released as mentioned. Then again, we would then have no Fantastic Four to mingle with..... Maybe the way things happened, forced a need for a quicker dev path and it is all for the better for modders? Selfish of me- I agree.
I tried both and vote for Vegan. Afaik, TnT doesn't support USB mice/keyboards so that was the icing on the cake for me.
I wanted to know what are the advantages and disadvantages between each "nonstock" firmware such as TNT Lite, VEGAn, I know there are more, but which one is the best, looks the best, more importantly run fastest? Thanks!
degree210 said:
I wanted to know what are the advantages and disadvantages between each "nonstock" firmware such as TNT Lite, VEGAn, I know there are more, but which one is the best, looks the best, more importantly run fastest? Thanks!
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if there was one best there would only be one. What you mean is which is best for you. the best person to answer that is you. you can do a little reading or try out the mods yourself and write up you experience so that other can benefit.
TnTLite V2.4 has the least issues for daily use.
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I wanted to know what are the advantages and disadvantages between each "nonstock" firmware such as TNT Lite, VEGAn, I know there are more, but which one is the best, looks the best, more importantly run fastest? Thanks!
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I worry that I will lose purchased data if I switch between ROMs
Purchases are tied to your gmail account, not your ROM or even device.
Sent from my Viewsonic 10" GTab...
I have tried the stock,,tnt lite 2.2 and vegan b3. I actually did not found the stock too bad even without the latest update but nothing I could do with it except news and browsing. Tnt lite 2.2 was not bad and it was faster than the stock but there were a couple of things I didn't like such as the tnt settings and it hide some of the wifi options such enterprise which I was using while at work (I used a patch APk to workaround the issue). Vegan b3 is the one I am using, so far so good with a couple of annoying issues such as wake-up, wifi drop and reconnect. I like and dislike the notification bar but it is fair stable. Not yet updating to b4 as I heard many issues. One issue I am seeing is that vegan rom is consisted of tnt kernel, Vega addons, etc. It does require more works and testing. Which tnt lite is a light weight of the stock plus some good stuffs. To be honest, I am thinking to go back to tnt soon as it always gets updates very quick. You should all thank the hardworking by roebeet. I would suggest watching some of edge's YouTube videos as he always does something cool with different roms. Good luck.
Zpad clean 2.2
Which rom is better in your opinion? Vegan or TNT
I have enjoyed Vegan more, only because i couldn't get the market to fix in tnt, but first try with vegan and it worked. That may be because i was doing something wrong in tnt, but that's it. I've been using vegan for 2 weeks now and i'ts very solid.
Which is better
I've tried TnT and VEGAn. TnT bombed the first time when I loaded 4.0. I switched to VEGAn and it worked straight away. I did, call me a sucker, go back and TnT 4.2.2 is working great for me. Only thing I miss from VEGAn is the ability to lock the screen.
What's in 4.2 that isn't in 4.1? I'm using 4.1 and everything is working. I am considering 4.2 but would like to know what the difference is. Do you know?
When I first got my gtab last week I flashed TnT. I was able to get the market running, but after a few hours it would pop a gapps error, and I would run the market fix again. Had to do this a few times a day.
I wiped and flashed Vegan and have been running it for the last 4 days with no issues. The lock screen is awesome and have had zero issues with the market
Highly recommend Vegan!
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Which rom is better in your opinion? Vegan or TNT
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After messing around with the five or so availale ROMS, I decided to make the VEGAn 5.1 beta my daily driver, it and TnT lite are the most stable IMHO, I chose VEGAn over TnT because the news and weather genie was absent from TnT and the VEGAn web browser offers much more flexibility as far as options go. I'm a news junkie!
Also the On-Screen soft keys on the notification bar [HOME, MENU, and BACK] are fantastic additions to VEGAn since the keys on the device don't light up, which makes it real [email protected]%# when using the device in a poorly lighted room so that would be wonderful if that feature was kept.
I have to agree with Vegan. I bought my pad two days ago and decided to go with Vegan. Flash and the Market are already installed. And having the menu, home, and back on the screen really makes getting around easier.
Now If I can just figure out how to use the host USB port.
I would have to say vegan.
I like the notification bar on TNT better, but I find Vegan just slightly more solid.
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Recently installed GAdam 1.1.0 and love it. Real nice and pretty simple UI. Running very stable. Didn't try Quad yet, played Angry Birds thou (LOL). Smooth transitions no FC on any app I tried. So, I believe I found the one I like and will stick with it till Honeycomb comes out (keep my fingers and toes crossed LOL).
vegan i would say
Also been running VEGAn - TAB V1.0.0B5.1
Several weeks now works without issues.
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What's in 4.2 that isn't in 4.1? I'm using 4.1 and everything is working. I am considering 4.2 but would like to know what the difference is. Do you know?
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You can always check the changelog. It's usually a mix of enhancements and stock updates. Some are minor changes, some are more major.
4.2.0 updated the TnT base to stock 3588. And I added the Gingerbread keyboard and upped the frame rate to 60.
Same here..Vegan. Running about a month with no isses. Posted a 1825 on Quad. Am happy!
I gotta cast my vote for Tnt. I've been running it since January, and have had no issues at all, and the market fix worked like a charm. The one thing I will say is, I have a 5 year old who loves to play angry birds and play a drawing game, and she is at home with TnT which is the main reason I haven't tried a different ROM.
My vote is for VEGAn, I just couldn't get the hulu fix to work on TnT and when I flashed VEGAn onto my tab last night worked right away. I also got all 5 stars on the market.
I have had my gtab for about 2 weeks now and tried out TNT as a first shot and it was good till installed some app and scrambled it. After that I kept getting FC's all the time.
Decided to go to the gAdam yesterday and I must say it seem to be solid. I have not had any problems with the market, like I have seen else where, and I just love the interface.
Rock on guys keep up the great work on all of the roms.
A big thanks to all of the devs who are working on the gTab.
i just picked up this tablet for my sister and chose to go with TnT Lite 4.2/4.2.5 to speed it up a little bit and so she can download some games and apps.
i ran a quadrant score against my rooted Xoom (not overclocked) and got the same scores, between 2000-2100ish.
no problems whatsoever with this TnT rom and i am quite impressed at the speed of it. at times it seems snappier/quicker then my Xoom.
TnT Lite is what I am currently running. Of course there are a few things I dont but there are a lot of things I do like. Is a great stable rom. The widgets take up way to much space in landscape mode.
I also have played with Vegan, but have an issue with the switching of landscape mode. The standard home screen doesn't switch! Otherwise its a great rom.
have had mine for about 2 weeks.
i just installed caulkin's 1.0 ROM, then put clemsyn's patch on it got CIFS.
i was running Vegan for a week before that.
i would like to switch to the stock or NI browser, and i should have backed up the NI keyboard before going to caulkin's. but i'll figrure out how to download and put them on as APK.s
I have not seen any threads on this yet but thought I would post it. I am new to the GTablet but have an android cell so I am not new to ROMs. So lets see who has some great feedback about there favorite stable ROM.
TNT Lite is probably the most stable, since it's a fixed stock with Gapps added and TNTcrap removed. It's the one I go with because the tablet has become integral to my work, and I want it to work as much as possible.
I haven't tried Vegan, but I've heard with the supplements that it's a very fast, very stable ROM. I don't know about the Ginger variants (as the posts say, they're experimental), haven't tried gADAM, and the reports of market issues have kept me away from Bitrix's work.
+1 for TnT Lite.
I'm also new to the grab and have been experimenting with the different roms. Currently I'm using vegan, but I do miss some if the tablet customized elements of tnt lite. The reason I changed over was because I wasn't able to use a third party keyboard. Is there a work around for this? In terms of stability, they both seem very good.
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I used tnt and now vegan. Tnt ran fine..only problem i had was music and videos on sd card wouldn't be found by players. Switched to vegan and really haven't had any problems.
I have a gTab on the way. I want to be able to use a keyboard and mouse with it while at home. I take it Vegan would be the best option for this? I greatly appreciate any input. Thanks to everyone that develops for the gTab. I can't wait to get it.
In terms of stability, TnTlite and VEGAn are pretty much on par, no random FCs from just about anything I use, except for Colorize Widgets on TnTLite, so I use VEGAn 5.1.1 for now, also because I prefer the status bar of VEGAn.
All the gingerbread ROMs have a fubared market (No "My Apps", Can't purchase, Maps fails). And for me, I regularly get FCs on a bunch of things. But they do have teh snappys, scrolling is super smooth, and things load up really fast. In addition, the gingerbread ROMs are clearly marked as Experimental, so you kind of expect things to break in them.
Hope that helps
Have been using Vegan for a month after stock TnT started FCing.
Other than a flaky market, all has been OK
tnerb123 said:
I have not seen any threads on this yet but thought I would post it. I am new to the GTablet but have an android cell so I am not new to ROMs. So lets see who has some great feedback about there favorite stable ROM.
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Please use the Search as I did and look what I found...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957174&highlight=ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=946705&highlight=ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=942105&highlight=ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922702&highlight=ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=911749&highlight=ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=906272&highlight=ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895647&highlight=ROM
Thread closed. Please see the links above. Thank you.
So i bought the Gtab to root and loving the device so far! I didn't really know which ROM to pick so I went with Vegan Ginger RC1...
My question is, which ROM runs the fastest (clean, crisp) and is most reliable. After searching around, I really dont need gingerbread but I am huge on speed. Any suggestions for a newb? Thanks
I really like CyanogenMod 7. It's fast and the stable versions are always reliable. They also release "nightlies", which come out every night and have the latest features and bug fixes; however, the stable versions are released quite often (I think more often than most ROMs for the gtab), so I usually stick with those since I know they're going to work well. A lot of people will tell you to go with a froyo ROM because they have the hardware video acceleration drivers, but I honestly didn't see any improvement in video playback or compatibility (HD or standard def) over CM7 when I tried VEGAn TAB 5.1.1 (a froyo based ROM).
I'm also interested in trying the honeycomb port for the gtab, but since that's still in the alpha stages and many things still aren't working, I'm planning on sticking with CM7 until that becomes more stable. Regardless, when the Ice Cream Sandwich source is released, I'll probably go back to CyanogenMod, since they'll probably have a working ROM of it before anyone else (that's how it went when the gingerbread source was released [at least on the EVO; I don't know about the gtab, since I didn't have one at that point]).
Hey thanks for the reply.. i think i would like to get the latest froyo release.. how would i know the latest stable version of a froyo release?
Thanks again
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I really like CyanogenMod 7. It's fast and the stable versions are always reliable. They also release "nightlies", which come out every night and have the latest features and bug fixes; however, the stable versions are released quite often (I think more often than most ROMs for the gtab), so I usually stick with those since I know they're going to work well. A lot of people will tell you to go with a froyo ROM because they have the hardware video acceleration drivers, but I honestly didn't see any improvement in video playback or compatibility (HD or standard def) over CM7 when I tried VEGAn TAB 5.1.1 (a froyo based ROM).
I'm also interested in trying the honeycomb port for the gtab, but since that's still in the alpha stages and many things still aren't working, I'm planning on sticking with CM7 until that becomes more stable. Regardless, when the Ice Cream Sandwich source is released, I'll probably go back to CyanogenMod, since they'll probably have a working ROM of it before anyone else (that's how it went when the gingerbread source was released [at least on the EVO; I don't know about the gtab, since I didn't have one at that point]).
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Hey thanks for the reply.. i think i would like to get the latest froyo release.. how would i know the latest stable version of a froyo release?
Thanks again
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CyanogenMod 6 was Froyo-based, but I did a quick search of the cyanogenmod site and I couldn't find any links for it, so I'm not sure if it's available any more. If you want to go with Froyo, I'd say go with VEGAn-TAB 5.1.1 or Calkulin. There are other Froyo-based ROMs floating around, but the two I mentioned seem to be the most popular. You can find links to both of those in the Development section of this forum.
Another thing to think about is kernels. Most people seem to say use Clemsyn for Froyo and Pershoot for Gingerbread.
Get up to date with the 1.2 boot loader; then for a FroYo build use Roebeet's Brilliant Corners.
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Hey thanks for the reply.. i think i would like to get the latest froyo release.. how would i know the latest stable version of a froyo release?
Thanks again
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+1 for VEGAn 5.1.1. It's fast and reliable. That and the free VTL Launcher makes the gTab a thing of beauty. It boots up fast too. I've got 2 gTabs (one running VEGAn 5.1.1 and the other running CyanogenMod 7.0.3) the one with CyanogenMod takes almost 2 minutes to start from a cold boot while the one with the VEGAn loads up for me in about 35~40 seconds.
CyanogenMod does let me watch Netflix on one of my gTabs which is the one thing the VEGAn 5.1.1 gTab doesn't let me do. On the flipside, the VEGAn gTab plays all of my ripped dvds with no problems while the CyanogenMod gTab won't play any of my xvid-avi movies even with Rockplayer or Mobo Player. Everytime I try and start a movie on the CyanogenMod gTab it acts like it will begin to play and then closes the player without any errors or messages. I've read on some threads that the CM rom is picky about the frame rate of the movies and the suggestions were to lessen the quality which sounds like a crap solution.
Anyway, I'm running both for their pros and cons and if you don't care about Netflix and you do care about speed then I would definitely recommend the VEGAn 5.1.1.
Good luck.
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+1 for VEGAn 5.1.1. It's fast and reliable. That and the free VTL Launcher makes the gTab a thing of beauty. It boots up fast too. I've got 2 gTabs (one running VEGAn 5.1.1 and the other running CyanogenMod 7.0.3) the one with CyanogenMod takes almost 2 minutes to start from a cold boot while the one with the VEGAn loads up for me in about 35~40 seconds.
CyanogenMod does let me watch Netflix on one of my gTabs which is the one thing the VEGAn 5.1.1 gTab doesn't let me do. On the flipside, the VEGAn gTab plays all of my ripped dvds with no problems while the CyanogenMod gTab won't play any of my xvid-avi movies even with Rockplayer or Mobo Player. Everytime I try and start a movie on the CyanogenMod gTab it acts like it will begin to play and then closes the player without any errors or messages. I've read on some threads that the CM rom is picky about the frame rate of the movies and the suggestions were to lessen the quality which sounds like a crap solution.
Anyway, I'm running both for their pros and cons and if you don't care about Netflix and you do care about speed then I would definitely recommend the VEGAn 5.1.1.
Good luck.
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I got Vegan Ginger Edition and it takes maybe 2 mins to start. I know 5.1 and 7.0 are not the same...but aren't they cousins? So why does mine take 2 mins to start
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I got Vegan Ginger Edition and it takes maybe 2 mins to start. I know 5.1 and 7.0 are not the same...but aren't they cousins? So why does mine take 2 mins to start
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You could say they're cousins in the sense that they were built by the same dev, but with one being froyo and the other being gingerbread the code that they're built off of is quite a bit different. I believe VEGAn ginger is based off of CM7, which is why they both take so long to load; I read somewhere that it has to do with the native libs being unpacked for everything at boot.
Another vote for Brilliant Corners
If you're not adventurous enough to delve into Bottle of Smoke or another HC alpha port, Brilliant Corners is a great, stable and fast environment.
By the way, "many" things are not issues with HC ROMs, just a few. Read up, but you will have to go to slatedroid for it.
Here's a starting point, if you are interested. http://www.slatedroid.com/forum/199-viewsonic-g-tablet-12-rom-development/
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You could say they're cousins in the sense that they were built by the same dev, but with one being froyo and the other being gingerbread the code that they're built off of is quite a bit different. I believe VEGAn ginger is based off of CM7, which is why they both take so long to load; I read somewhere that it has to do with the native libs being unpacked for everything at boot.
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Totally. The more apps you load the longer it takes to load. Fresh stock with gapps load with 35 or so seconds of the boot animation. With my my 50 or so apps it take almost 3 min of looping the boot animation to start. Bonus is that unlike native gtab roms it doesn't randomly turn off during extended sleep.
I'm using cm7 for Netflix but the day it opens up to all android I'm moving back to the clemsyn+calkulin combo. Its fing fast and stable. Love that rom. I suggest everyone give it a whirl at least once.
Thanks for all the recommendation guys. So it seems vegan 5.1 will work best for me ..
Hows clemsyn+calkulin ? Since i dont care about netflix would you recommend it?
dreday28 said:
Thanks for all the recommendation guys. So it seems vegan 5.1 will work best for me ..
Hows clemsyn+calkulin ? Since i dont care about netflix would you recommend it?
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It is my favorite. Loved vegan 5 but Clem+calk is the fastest and most stable I have used. Its modified around his custom kernel and has a built in add blocker that is better than the add-on market app. Give it a flash Its my go to froyo rom.
How about this one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=985705
I dont care about overclocking, I found some Clem+Calk but they all say 1.5ghz so i assumed they came already OC'd, which would affect battery..
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It is my favorite. Loved vegan 5 but Clem+calk is the fastest and most stable I have used. Its modified around his custom kernel and has a built in add blocker that is better than the add-on market app. Give it a flash Its my go to froyo rom.
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Yeah that's the basis for the combo clemsyn put out. It has a feel like tnt lite but lots of cool tweaks. If you don't care about oc you should still use clemsyns+calkilins combo. You have to download CPU master from the market to activate the oc anyway. All in all the Clem+calk combo is where to go. There kernel just gives you the option to oc if you feel like it in the future.
Hope that helped.
Mantara,
Thanks again for your help. So i have one last question to ask before I flash the clemsyns+calkilins combo.
Does it matter what bootloader, or firmware I have? Because I have no idead what bootloader I have. I just bought the Gtab 2 weeks ago, and bricked my device because appearently I had a new stock firmware. had to use nvflash, clockworkmod, then flashed straight to vegan tab ginger edition..
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Yeah that's the basis for the combo clemsyn put out. It has a feel like tnt lite but lots of cool tweaks. If you don't care about oc you should still use clemsyns+calkilins combo. You have to download CPU master from the market to activate the oc anyway. All in all the Clem+calk combo is where to go. There kernel just gives you the option to oc if you feel like it in the future.
Hope that helped.
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Did you nvflash back to stock then load cwm? Was the cwm bekit.8 or the new one made by roebeet for the 1.2 bootloader?
Clemsyn just released a version 6 of his combo for the 1.2 bootloader if that's what you have. If you flashed back to stock bootloader use version 5.
I nvflashed back to stock rom, then used CW8.
So i use version 5...? any advantages of having 1.2?
Yep. You are on 1.1 bl now. 5 is what you want.
Only advantage to the 1.2 bootloader is honeycomb. There is active development being done on an Adam port of honeycomb for gtab and 1.2 is needed for that. It looks like the direction that future os releases will be under. So eventually when or if HC gets video drivers I will switch to 1.2. Untilled then I'm staying with Clem+calk and cm7.
Happy flashing
^^i wouldn't say the only benefit of 1.2 is HC....there are a few solid roms on 1.2 over @ SD.
vegan-Tab 7
why doesnt anybody recommend vegan 7 ginger edition? its a great tablet based rom. it automatically partitions the internal memory so you dont need an external sd card to install apps. i tried cm7, latest stable version for harmony, and it required a sd card to install anything (very annoying). i imagine there is quick fix but why bother when vegan7 takes care of it.