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Moto Bootloader policy News

Motorola has not yet officially responded to the query of this petition, but we are seeing some progress and they have noticed us.
https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/355098#355098
The Quick State of Play:
Motorola recently stated that there would be an announcement to their bootloader policy that would help to benefit Developers while protecting its users.
(Refer: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=495971028278)
This Groubal is in place to request that Motorola provide an unlocked/unencrypted bootloader option for its end users. This option should be applicable to all currently supported Motorola phones and upcoming phones.
At the very least this should also be a call to have Motorola make its official announcement sooner rather than later.
I encourage the following types of user from the Android community to support this Groubal:
• Developers with a Motorola Phone
• Developers who have left Motorola due to this reason
• Developers who will not touch a Motorola phone due to this reason
• Advanced Users with a Motorola Phone
• Advanced Users who have left Motorola due to this reason
• Advanced Users who will not touch a Motorola phone due to this reason
• Any End User that believes in the openness of the Android Platform
Please also spread the word about this Groubal on Facebook and Twitter and use the following hash tag to help it trend. #unlockmoto
Also consider following me on twitter if you want to keep involved:

check out moto's fb page!! over 16,000 people voted on their fb poll to unlock the bootloader!! hopefully they unlock the bootloader
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alx294 said:
check out moto's fb page!! over 16,000 people voted on their fb poll to unlock the bootloader!! hopefully they unlock the bootloader
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they better be soon..

mediaon said:
they better be soon..
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It will never happen. Sorry. Believing otherwise is giving Motorola too much credit. When you carefully read the facebook announcement it says nothing. They were just defusing a PR bomb.
Motorola releases more devices than they can support and we were triaged. As recently exposed by Cincinnati Bell, Motorola has already been lying to our faces by telling us that it's the carriers that refuse them to allow 2.2 updates for the XT720. Motorola screwed Cincinnati Bell, and now Cincinnati Bell is selling Samsung. Motorola are snake oil salesmen from Texas. End of story.

Mioze7Ae said:
It will never happen. Sorry. Believing otherwise is giving Motorola too much credit. When you carefully read the facebook announcement it says nothing. They were just defusing a PR bomb.
Motorola releases more devices than they can support and we were triaged. As recently exposed by Cincinnati Bell, Motorola has already been lying to our faces by telling us that it's the carriers that refuse them to allow 2.2 updates for the XT720. Motorola screwed Cincinnati Bell, and now Cincinnati Bell is selling Samsung. Motorola are snake oil salesmen from Texas. End of story.
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so .. disappointed at MOTOROLA ..didn't even give us any updates to fix the bugs in stock 2.1 (low mem when 720p taping,the lag,freeze ,hang problem,slow processing...etc....)..can't believe they treat their customers like this ..such a liar

Motorola promises to unlock our bootloader in the end of 2011. (maybe NOT EVERY ?? )
For everyone speaking german: http://www.android-hilfe.de/news-ankuendigungen/98282-motorola-verspricht-entsperrte-bootloader.html
And for everyone speaking english: http://ausdroid.net/
But I fear that this might be just for new devices

Knoedelkopf said:
Motorola promises to unlock EVERY bootloader in the end of 2011.
For everyone speaking german: http://www.android-hilfe.de/news-ankuendigungen/98282-motorola-verspricht-entsperrte-bootloader.html
And for everyone speaking english: http://ausdroid.net/
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Smartest move moto could make. Hope they update all devices. Older and newer
Sent from my Ultimate 2.3.3 Incredible

It is our intention to enable the unlockable/relockable bootloader currently found on Motorola XOOM across our portfolio of devices starting in late 2011, where carriers and operators will allow it.
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Guess we'll see whatever is supposed to happen (new or old phones + carrier willingness + Moto not lying) in quite a while...

how does this decision reflects on us? 1 click perm/temp root perhaps?

how does this decision reflects on us? 1 click perm/temp root perhaps?
“There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we’ve listened. Today, I’m confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience,” Peter Chou, CEO of HTC

New info on Bootloaders (via email reply from HTC)

"Thank you for contacting HTC regarding your mobile phone HTC Desire S.
I understand that you wish to know if your phone will get an update to unlock the Bootloader.
We’re pleased to announce that we have heard everyone’s comments and constructive suggestions and have decided to go forward with this initiative. Currently we don’t have a schedule yet, but stay tuned; we will let you know via through our official website and official social media outlets.
Regarding which phones will be unlocked, currently we don’t have information but keep an eye on our official website and official social media outlets for announcements about which phones will be bootloader unlocked."
Sincerely,
Carola
HTC
So there you have it. HTC is gonna unlock bootloaders on existing phones, but no info is given regarding which phones will be unlocked, and when. Let's just keep our fingers crossed and hope that the Desire S receives an unlock soon. Keep an eye on their FB page people.

Its exactly the same answer that someone already posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14217130&postcount=19

when it comes to getting answers from HTC support (regarding updates, schedules, etc) know that they can't be trusted...
anyone who have waited for hero update knows what i mean

Regarding which phone will be Unlock? If Desire S will never going to be in the list...I'll just sell this and get something else.
Officially, how many HTC Android phone has a locked bootloader?

pure marketing, i believe it when i see it...

Well, they wouldn't lie, i just hope it wont take much time

desire s is kindly new/fresh device, I believe it should get official unlocked bootloader soon =)

HTCDev response

I went to htcdev's site and clicked the feedback button a few days back.
I simply asked when AT&T HTC One X (a.k.a Elite) kernel source would be released and if/when unlocked bootloaders would be available.
Got the following response today.
htcdev said:
Thank you Bryan for contacting HTC Technical Support. I understand you're inquiring about unlocking the bootloader and releasing the kernel source for your HTC One X. I am more than happy to be able to provide some clarity to the situation at hand.
HTC is committed to assisting customers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices. However, certain models may not be unlockable due to operator restrictions. Please refer to our list of supported devices to see if your device is eligible for unlocking the bootloader. http://htcdev.com/bootloader/
HTC will typically publish on http://developer.htc.com or htcdev.com the Kernel open source code for recently released devices as soon as possible. HTC will normally publish this within 90 to 120 days. This time frame is within the requirements of the open source community.
Feel free to reply should you have any further questions. If you feel more comfortable discussing issues by phone, you can contact Technical Support at 1-866-449-8358, 6 am to 1 am EST, 7 days a week.
If this answers your comment or question, please click here to complete the process.
To submit another comment, please click here.
Sincerely,
The HTCDev Team
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(bold added by me)
Granted this response is pretty generic. All device manufacturers have a time limit (60, 90, 120 days after release), but sometimes are nice *cough*galaxy note*cough*... and release code before the phone even releases.
Compared to my experience with other device manufactures, htc's response time and the response itself were pretty good.
And I'm sure a few hundred users for just this device, as well as other devices without source and unlocked bl are also hitting htcdev's customer facing feedback/support. So I'm posting this here so you don't have to go ask them the same exact question
If the AT&T HTC One X is one of the "certain models [that] may not be unlockable due to operator restrictions.", we will have to give lots of thanks to the RDs and Senior Members working on this, and donate to them if you can! So instead of bugging htc about the bootloaders, you should be pointing that at AT&T/Rogers/etc...
I personally don't know enough about htc bl unlocking, but am stoked for kernel source to drop

bhundven said:
I went to htcdev's site and clicked the feedback button a few days back.
I simply asked when AT&T HTC One X (a.k.a Elite) kernel source would be released and if/when unlocked bootloaders would be available.
Got the following response today.
(bold added by me)
Granted this response is pretty generic. All device manufacturers have a time limit (60, 90, 120 days after release), but sometimes are nice *cough*galaxy note*cough*... and release code before the phone even releases.
Compared to my experience with other device manufactures, htc's response time and the response itself were pretty good.
And I'm sure a few hundred users for just this device, as well as other devices without source and unlocked bl are also hitting htcdev's customer facing feedback/support. So I'm posting this here so you don't have to go ask them the same exact question
If the AT&T HTC One X is one of the "certain models [that] may not be unlockable due to operator restrictions.", we will have to give lots of thanks to the RDs and Senior Members working on this, and donate to them if you can! So instead of bugging htc about the bootloaders, you should be pointing that at AT&T/Rogers/etc...
I personally don't know enough about htc bl unlocking, but am stoked for kernel source to drop
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yea but without being unlocked kernel source doesnt help very much.
and its att, rogers doesnt cripple phones anymore...mines unlocked.
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I went to HTC's site and there are over 30 versions of the source code for download on the One X....just not for ATT...so it seems HTC is not the problem...sounds typical of att though...the kernal for T-Mobile version is already out..(One S)..I'm going to call and send email to att...might even threaten to cancel..one call won't help a lot but if a lot of calls come in then who knows...att claims to be ALL about customer satisfaction...
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

bhundven said:
I went to htcdev's site and clicked the feedback button a few days back.
I simply asked when AT&T HTC One X (a.k.a Elite) kernel source would be released and if/when unlocked bootloaders would be available.
Got the following response today.
(bold added by me)
Granted this response is pretty generic. All device manufacturers have a time limit (60, 90, 120 days after release), but sometimes are nice *cough*galaxy note*cough*... and release code before the phone even releases.
Compared to my experience with other device manufactures, htc's response time and the response itself were pretty good.
And I'm sure a few hundred users for just this device, as well as other devices without source and unlocked bl are also hitting htcdev's customer facing feedback/support. So I'm posting this here so you don't have to go ask them the same exact question
If the AT&T HTC One X is one of the "certain models [that] may not be unlockable due to operator restrictions.", we will have to give lots of thanks to the RDs and Senior Members working on this, and donate to them if you can! So instead of bugging htc about the bootloaders, you should be pointing that at AT&T/Rogers/etc...
I personally don't know enough about htc bl unlocking, but am stoked for kernel source to drop
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This same thing (slightly different verbiage) was already posted multiple times (about locked bootloader) This is same response they gave Paul, posted here (XDA), at Engadget and others.
"HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future."
Kernel source does no good until we can use it....

nugzo said:
This same thing (slightly different verbiage) was already posted multiple times (about locked bootloader) This is same response they gave Paul, posted here (XDA), at Engadget and others.
"HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future."
Kernel source does no good until we can use it....
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I agree. I was making a point that htc seems responsive.
The problem is with AT&T/Rogers/etc.
I didn't post this as 'bleeding edge news'. I pm'd you the same.
Everyone talks about htcdev unlock, I was trying to also make a point that it may not be up to htc if the bootloaders become unlocked. So support your local bootloader unlocking dev.
Sorry for any confusion, I thought it read clear when I clicked `post'.

How soon do you think there will be a 2.20 root exploit available?

Do you think there will be a root exploit for 2.20 soon and if so when do you think it will be available?

I hope there's some devs willing to work on it. It's a relatively new software version. We all gotta have some patience. I'd really like to get CM10 up and running on the HOX. Works great on my Nexus 7.

thephased said:
I hope there's some devs willing to work on it. It's a relatively new software version. We all gotta have some patience. I'd really like to get CM10 up and running on the HOX. Works great on my Nexus 7.
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I know, I actually emailed htc saying something like "we pay for these phone with our money we should be able to do what we want to do with them." and here is what they said: "I understand that you have some concerns regarding the bootloader unlock on the HTC One X and I would be more than happy to assist you with information!
HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future."
I personally would love to be able to unlock the AT&T HOX through the htcdev website that would be awesome!

mmmatt312 said:
I know, I actually emailed htc saying something like "we pay for these phone with our money we should be able to do what we want to do with them." and here is what they said: "I understand that you have some concerns regarding the bootloader unlock on the HTC One X and I would be more than happy to assist you with information!
HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future."
I personally would love to be able to unlock the AT&T HOX through the htcdev website that would be awesome!
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Unfortunately, the carriers have the upper hand when it comes to bootloaders and whether they allow them to be unlocked. It could be a while, if ever, until HTC adds the AT&T HOX to their supported unlockable devices. I'll take an unofficial method instead if that's what's available.But yeah, it would be great if it happened officially.

asking when root will be available is like asking a dev when his rom is going to be updated. rest assured it will happen eventually, but the devs that do this do it in there spare time when not at work or with family, and most of the time end up doing all for free and risking there own devices. so the answer is it will come but only when it ready.

When you find the exploit
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Get your hopes up for the 4th.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832921
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superchilpil said:
When you find the exploit
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Lol.

Those are the kindest remarks I've ever seen to a thread like this being posted. Is anybody going to say how ignorant of a question that is to ask? Mods please move this thread to the ESP forums for our psychics evaluate.

18th.abn said:
Those are the kindest remarks I've ever seen to a thread like this being posted. Is anybody going to say how ignorant of a question that is to ask? Mods please move this thread to the ESP forums for our psychics evaluate.
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All the jerks bought S3's.
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