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I think there should be a new Section or even in the Sub-Forums a space for the GX2.
I also can see people flashing stuff they shouldn't to there phone and getting mixed up with all the different post/topics on the 2 different phones
Yep I agree make no sense in the same forum space...
and didnt one of the devs say flashing something from the o2x unto the g2x will break functionality? i also think there should be a seperate forum or a subforum
Lol I can see how that can be frustrating
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and didnt one of the devs say flashing something from the o2x unto the g2x will break functionality? i also think there should be a seperate forum or a subforum
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They certainly did, thats why it should be moved even to the Sub-Forums just so thats it's seperated
Or people can start labeling threads "g2x" or "o2x". A little reading can go a long ways as well.
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Or people can start labeling threads "g2x" or "o2x". A little reading can go a long ways as well.
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I think it needs seperating every other post in the general is g2x which isn't what I or others what to be filtering through hehe (well that my opinion)
It's funny how the sensation which is months away already has it's own section while the g2x doesn't... Also the vibrant and the vibrant 4g both have their own section while being such similar devices
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I don't think "clogging up" is the right term, "cross pollination" might be better. There is some crossover for sure, but it's obvious that some G2x things might be fatal to the O2x.. and vice verse... a separate section is definitely called for.
as long as posts are clearly labeled [G2X] [02X] it should be fine. but 2 months down the line it will probably be a mess in here
Yeah the android genius paulobrien posted that flashing O2x baseband will remove all phone functionality on the G2x. I assume that since only a select few people in the USA have the G2x now. That will have our own section by Monday, Hopefully CM7 will be right behind it.
I dont know how I'm gonna survive till tuesday
I'll probably just flash MicroMod's HD-Desire v1.7 for the old lady and get her set up
Yeah. Some people are just idiots and will try everything they see without even reading. Haha, a subforum would be enough i think. Paul would be away for 10 days so we wont be hearing from him for 10 days. Cant wait for his return.
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I think the benefits of the united efforts of g2x and o2x devs outweigh the disadvantages of a mistakenly flashed kernel (which is no big deal because the phones are nearly brick proof). The small portions which differ should be marked accordingly and, honestly, people who flash the wrong baseband because they didn't read the thread properly or don't know what they are doing deserve to be reminded to properly read topics and obtain the knowledge necessaryin the future.
I agree with aMpeX!
There are labels like [ROM], [Kernel], [How To] etc., people should just put [O2X] and [G2X] in front of their titles!
And don't you start about people making mistakes because the G looks a bit like an O..
There were 2 seperate forums for the g2 and desire z. Those ended up merging.
We definitely need a separate forum for the G2x. First off, a lot of n00bs aren't going to realize the Optimus 2X has virtually the same hardware as the G2x - if they DO figure out that particular point, there is still a high probability they will bork their phones flashing O2X basebands onto their G2x's. A perfect example - the thread warning G2x owners NOT to flash O2X basebands is not even a sticky. One can argue that not reading makes it their own fault but at the same time, most of America is filled with total idiots. The rest of the world knows that.
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We definitely need a separate forum for the G2x. First off, a lot of n00bs aren't going to realize the Optimus 2X has virtually the same hardware as the G2x - if they DO figure out that particular point, there is still a high probability they will bork their phones flashing O2X basebands onto their G2x's. A perfect example - the thread warning G2x owners NOT to flash O2X basebands is not even a sticky. One can argue that not reading makes it their own fault but at the same time, most of America is filled with total idiots. The rest of the world knows that.
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I RESENT THAT AMERICAN STATEMENT NOT ALL OF US ARE FAT/STUPID (just 70%)
i am REQUESTING a sub-forum/forum for the tmobile G2x HERE-----> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12958184#post12958184
PLEASE POST HERE TO KEEP IT AT THE TOP AND SO WE CAN GET IT GOING! THANKS!!!!
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I thinks the O2x people need to pushed out for the new hotness of the G2x.
C'mon ppl, we essentially bought the same phone, so why all the hating?
As I said, people who are unable to understand / too stupid to read shouldn't be flashing basebands in the first place. So if they brick their phone, it will hopefully teach them a lesson or too, and they will have to deal with the full wipe when they revert to stock using NVflash. You wouldn't flash a toasters firmware to a sandwich maker, so stop being ridiculous and read the goddamn threads. People put a lot of effort into pointing out what you CAN do and what you CAN't do.
Also, I want to emphasize again, apart from the Baseband, the Radio Interface Layer and 1 or 2 swapped partitions, those phones are IDENTICAL, so why split all the awesomeness brought here by devs to 2 sub forums. I, for one, would end up reading both.
And btw, as of now there is a sticky warning G2X users not to flash O2X basebands and vice versa.
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Hi all,
I have been a member of XDA since 2009 starting with a WM6.1 Samsung Omnia and then becoming a HUGE Android fan. I have much respect for all of the great DEV's here and for the community in general and as such but I would like to see your opinions on the following...
After being here for so long and seeing so many different issues with so many different devices...
Do you think that Manufacturers release devices that are "sub par" or "incomplete" (per say) on purpose because they know that there are MANY Developers out here and on other forums that will essentially fix these "shortcomings" for almost nothing?
What do you think? Please vote AND leave a reply for discussion.
Thanks...
I think they do so they can bang phones phones out quickly to increase their revenues faster.
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I think they do so they can bang phones phones out quickly to increase their revenues faster.
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I agree with this
cornishronson said:
I think they do so they can bang phones phones out quickly to increase their revenues faster.
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I agree with this also. That was my point to this thread. It does not seem very professional to me however especially since these Manufaturers are now essentially sitting back and waiting for DEV's to finish or fix their software, etc...
There's nothing wrong with the devices, at least not all the time.
On Verizon the majority of issues are a result of all the bloatware and unnecessary processes that they set up the phones to run. Certainly Blur and Touchwhiz and what not don't help, but I don't think they're the major culprits. Roms sitting on top of them often run with few to no issues.
It's the carriers, not the manufacturers.
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There's nothing wrong with the devices, at least not all the time.
On Verizon the majority of issues are a result of all the bloatware and unnecessary processes that they set up the phones to run. Certainly Blur and Touchwhiz and what not don't help, but I don't think they're the major culprits. Roms sitting on top of them often run with few to no issues.
It's the carriers, not the manufacturers.
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I agree with you on that but what about things like "the volume is too low", or "bad screen colour" and other defects like that? There are DEV's (Supercurio for example) who essentially take these types of issues and "fix" them essentially for free. Why cant the Manufacturers (Samsung in this particular example) just ensure that these issues are caught in the QA/QC stages before they ship their devices?
Dont get me wrong... I as a USER think its FANTASTIC that we have devoted DEV's that will do this for us but I also feel that it is the Manufacturers responsibility to ensure their products meet specific quality standards before they put their devices up for sale.
Well the case doesn't really apply to the sgs 2.
But I do wish we could get full sources.
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Well, things like screen color issues definitely seem to be symptoms of a rush job. I don't understand how so many RAZRs could have green screens on low brightness and problems getting stuck in landscape and it was never noticed unless it got rushed out. Things like that should definitely be caught and corrected in the testing phase.
Fewer devices, more focus for the win.
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I agree with this also. That was my point to this thread. It does not seem very professional to me however especially since these Manufaturers are now essentially sitting back and waiting for DEV's to finish or fix their software, etc...
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Yes I agree, they sit back raking it in and put all there work into marketing more than the product while leaving the real work to the volunteers to put the missing pieces of the puzzle together.
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I feel the manufacturers leave issues so they can push their new phones as "fixes".
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OF Course! they just want to make quick money and most dont support their phone after a while.
I strongly believe they do! I can only imagine the amount of money they save not having to worry about the little things.
"Ohh you have problem XYZ with this device, well here we are three months later with a newer version with a fix for that. Now I know that it takes a lot longer then three months to get a phone ready and out the door but just take it from us we we able to do it..."
I see some people definitely agree with me on this. Keep the opinions coming...
I don't think they release incomplete devices. I feel as if they need to just push the device out on schedule, and if its complete great, if not, of well.
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I don't think they release incomplete devices. I feel as if they need to just push the device out on schedule, and if its complete great, if not, of well.
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Doesn't that seem a bit "shady" though? And why do we as consumers keep on gobbling up these "defective" (some yes, some no) items and never do anything about it?
Ill be the first to admit it... When there is a new device out and I want it... I GET IT on impulse but still... for upwards of $600.00 per device that has ANY KIND of deficiency seems completely wrong for the manufacturers to be selling...
It's a new phone. It will have issues. Get over it. I've never seen so many people complain about something. It is literally the best phone you can get right now. If it doesn't work for you get an iPhone. I love this phone even with the issues it has. They will be fixed. Sorry just my two cents.
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It still amazes me that people complain about a new device having issues. This is HTC's new flagship device which has been created from the ground up. It's the first generation of said flagship line and is bound to have issues. Guess no one here had a 2g iPhone. Sure it was amazing, but I also had its short comings.
I returned my HOX cause they didn't have any available for exchange. Going to buy one tomorrow from Walmart. Can't wait to get it back.
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It's a new phone. It will have issues. Get over it. I've never seen so many people complain about something. It is literally the best phone you can get right now. If it doesn't work for you get an iPhone. I love this phone even with the issues it has. They will be fixed. Sorry just my two cents.
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I started a thread like this and it was closed in about 5 mins or less. It seems like complaining on here is the norm and not the exception. There are definitely some issues here and there...luckily for me, they don't affect me too much because of how I use the phone. Every phone I have had has had issues...best phone made period. Glad you're enjoying it.
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I started a thread like this and it was closed in about 5 mins or less. It seems like complaining on here is the norm and not the exception. There are definitely some issues here and there...luckily for me, they don't affect me too much because of how I use the phone. Every phone I have had has had issues...best phone made period. Glad you're enjoying it.
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I concur. It's ok to have threads like "Multitasking is a joke on this device", "Who else is returning their handsets?", "Disappointed w HTC QC" etc. but it's not ok to have a thread confronting the complainers. It's true that if you spend money on something and it has issues you're entitle to complain but srsly saying **** like "Im gonna return my HOX and buy an s3" is just plainly redundant. This phone is a complete new direction in manufacturing technology for HTC and the only thing I can chastise them for is the fact that they seem to rush it out, but I can totally understand that it has software/hardware issues. Instead of threatening to return and to buy from Samsung, why dont people just either do it and move on w their lives, or be patient and wait for a solution? Look at the screen flickering issue being incrementally solved as an example. Moreover, the S3 hasnt come out yet so stop it the comparing bs already. Werent the S and S2 plagued w issues upon launch as well?
Mini rant: Samsung hasnt changed their handset manufacturing or design since like forever (really I have a 2008 Samsung f480 or something and it looks reminiscent of the Galaxy line) so it's expected that their handset making process is more refined. It's not fair to compare an old-fashioned design w something as innovative looking as the HOX.
So, you are COMPLAINING about complainers? How is your topic any different from the rest? At least the topics where people complain about issues, helping raise an awareness of the problem, with a hope that the developers will fix them, while topics like this have absolutely no purpose whatsoever.
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"Multitasking is a joke on this device", "Who else is returning their handsets?", "Disappointed w HTC QC"
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The great news is that the SGS3 will be in people's hands in less than two weeks. If the launch goes like the i9100, and GN, the comparisons to "perfect" that we've been seeing will suddenly look pretty feeble. As they say, "he who laughs last, laughs best."
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So, you are COMPLAINING about complainers? How is your topic any different from the rest? At least the topics where people complain about issues, helping raise an awareness of the problem, with a hope that the developers will fix them, while topics like this have absolutely no purpose whatsoever.
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There's little constructive conversation in the complaint threads. No one's trying to put their heads together to clarify and resolve a problem. They are ***** fests. The multitasking thread is a great example. 2/3 of the posts are just "OMFG, this is inexcusable" pile ons. And anyone that dares say it isn't bothering them is squashed like a roach.
I agree people need to stop *****ing. Nobody forced u to buy the device. If u don't like it return it. Otherwise stop *****ing.
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Its a new phone thread. Give it 2 months and all the trolling complainers will be on to the next phone with an irrelevant quadrant score that is 10% better.
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So, you are COMPLAINING about complainers? How is your topic any different from the rest? At least the topics where people complain about issues, helping raise an awareness of the problem, with a hope that the developers will fix them, while topics like this have absolutely no purpose whatsoever.
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Yep...65 pages of the same people threatening to take their phones back will definitely help raise awareness.
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I started a thread like this and it was closed in about 5 mins or less. It seems like complaining on here is the norm and not the exception. There are definitely some issues here and there...luckily for me, they don't affect me too much because of how I use the phone. Every phone I have had has had issues...best phone made period. Glad you're enjoying it.
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I agree. People can complain for 65 pages about a new phone, but if someone creates a thread about being tired about all the *****ing, it gets closed immediately. The reply by the Mod was condescending and rude, yet he allows other threads to continue. No surprise though, it's the XDA way.
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There's little constructive conversation in the complaint threads. No one's trying to put their heads together to clarify and resolve a problem. They are ***** fests. The multitasking thread is a great example. 2/3 of the posts are just "OMFG, this is inexcusable" pile ons. And anyone that dares say it isn't bothering them is squashed like a roach.
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So, what are you proposing about that particular? We should all just shut up, go with the flow enjoy the broken phone? Seriously, one thing is complain about something minor, like theme colors, another is something that makes the phone virtually unusable. The more people complain about such things, the more the manufactures get aware of that, the more chances they gonna do something about. Maybe perhaps we should get another topic where people can vote if they like it or not the multitasking is working?
Topics like this on other hand, has no practical or any other usage. That's my point.
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Topics like this on other hand, has no practical or any other usage. That's my point.
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Actually, topics like this help to even out the discussion and see both sides of the story. A casual user would get the impression that the phone was garbage and no one likes it if all they read are complaints. It needs to be known that not everyone is complaining about the phone. The last thing anyone wants is a media blackout.
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Make a Complaint section?
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It still amazes me that people complain about a new device having issues. This is HTC's new flagship device which has been created from the ground up. It's the first generation of said flagship line and is bound to have issues. Guess no one here had a 2g iPhone. Sure it was amazing, but I also had its short comings.
I returned my HOX cause they didn't have any available for exchange. Going to buy one tomorrow from Walmart. Can't wait to get it back.
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Seriously?
This is nothing like the first iphone. Android has been around a long time, Android 4.0 is like 7 months old. It's the same camera module from the year old SGS2.
What is so revolutionary? I like mine a lot, it's a slick phone, but it's not that groundbreaking.
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So, what are you proposing about that particular? We should all just shut up, go with the flow enjoy the broken phone?
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Both Samsung and HTC have designed their products to meet the needs of millions of people. Along the way there were bound to be compromises. If any of those compromises don't meet your needs, don't buy the phone. XDA probably represents at most 5% of the phone buying public. For 25% of the 5% to think they can band together and try to make multi-billion dollar companies bend to their wishes is pretty naive. So by all means, have at it but don't ridicule the people that see the futility in some of the complaining.
Some of the features of the navigation system in my car drive me crazy and other members of its forum agree. It would be laughable for a small group of us to flame the manufacturer expecting them to revise the system because we don't like it. But yet, here on XDA, that's a pretty much daily occurrence. I don't like the way the automatic soap dispenser works on my dishwasher. Maybe I should gather up a group of fellow disgruntled owners and spam the manufacturer's Facebook page demanding they change it. If you want to send a message to a manufacturer stop buying their products. That'll get their attention a lot quicker than #neveragain campaigns. The GPS on the SGS (i9000) was in fact with no debate FUBAR. Owners launched the largest social campaign I've ever seen trying to get Samsung to fix it. Samsung never responded. They and Apple now share 90% of mobile device profits. Oh well, so much for that.
I don't know what you guys do for a living but decisions at large companies aren't emotional; they're statistically and financially driven. In cases like Asus and HTC unlocking their bootloaders it wasn't the rallying of the 25% of the 5% that made them rethink their policies. They were probably on the fence to begin with and the positive PR and low financial impact is what got them to change position. A device can easily meet the manufacturers financial objectives even if the entire XDA universe boycotted it. We're described as "enthusiasts" and make up a small but vocal part of the phone buying universe.
HTC's now on record saying multitasking is working as designed. Everyone here is still in their remorse period. You have two choices: 1) return the phone, 2) keep it and hope that since this is now on HTC's radar maybe there may be some future improvement. Option 3, which a lot of people seem to be taking, keeping the phone and *****ing among themselves isn't going to change how multitasking works.
Things like petitions and posting on social sites are fine. They are ways of communicating with the manufacturers and letting them know how some of their customers feel about their decisions. But as with everything, there's a time to call it a day and move on. This isn't a civil rights fight; we're talking about features on a phone. And of our "issues" probably 10% would even be noticed by the phone buying public in general.
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Both Samsung and HTC have designed their products to meet the needs of millions of people. Along the way there were bound to be compromises. If any of those compromises don't meet your needs, don't buy the phone.
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The problem here is none of such compromises are publicly available for users to weight their decision with, none of the reviews have mention such crucial flaws, they have some cons about colors in photos or phone being too wide, but nothing that would greatly affect user's experience with phone's usage. Customers will have to experience it themselves, which means they will have to buy it first. (for example LG Nitro HD has defective hardware compass and the only way to know about it to experience it yourself, because nobody is talking about)
In this particular case with multitasking, the only people who's not getting affected by it are the same people who shouldn't buy such phone in the first place, since they just wasting money on something they don't use to it's full potentials.
Also, the same logic as "don't like it, don't buy it" can be applied to the OP complaining about the complainers - don't like it, don't read it, move along. But, it's just does not work in our imperfect world...
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it's just does not work in our imperfect world...
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On this, you and I totally agree. Part of what makes XDA fun (for me) is the difference of opinion. It's interesting to see what's important to people and how everyone uses their device differently. The battles always start when smart, knowledgeble, strong-willed people all try to get each other to agree. And I've never seen that happen here or anywhere else.
Imagine I'm making a thread like "Who else is not returning their HOX and dont give a **** about the Samsung Plasticky s3". Pretty sure it will be closed so quick my chair still doesnt get warm yet.
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Actually, topics like this help to even out the discussion and see both sides of the story. A casual user would get the impression that the phone was garbage and no one likes it if all they read are complaints. It needs to be known that not everyone is complaining about the phone. The last thing anyone wants is a media blackout.
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No i think what is being said is that these threads dont help other users, they just are meant as a knee-jerk reaction to complaints threads. If you want to do what you are suggesting in your post, then you should start a thread along the lines of "I love this phone and here's why", not "tired of the complaints." That's just a complaint about complaining, plain and simple.
I also started a thread speaking of my problems with the one X and I got a bunch of people whining about my whining which I don't understand. And the point of the thread was not intended to go that route. Anyways I guess alot has changed here in XDA.
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After talking with a bunch of friends who like the look of my phone after flashing a custom ROM, I got to thinking:
What if phone shops offered a ROM flashing service?
Some people are unsure about the flashing process even after reading through the instructions. This would allow people, who due to worries cant flash their phones, to have a custom ROM
Thoughts?
It would void the warranty tho. I also doubt that many of the average Joes out there would actually care. Most people I know with a Galaxy device don't even have Kies on the pc and have not idea whatsoever about the version of Android they're running. They're still happy tho, so why bursting their bubble?
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It would void the warranty tho. I also doubt that many of the average Joes out there would actually care. Most people I know with a Galaxy device don't even have Kies on the pc and have not idea whatsoever about the version of Android they're running. They're still happy tho, so why bursting their bubble?
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Have it set for Pay-As-You-Go customers or people who bought a second hand phone. Depending on the ROM, it can feel like having a completely different device
I highly doubt that you would ever get a major store to offer it. Your best bet would be to find a small store (or make one) that does that kind of thing and give tutorials and such on the devices
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I highly doubt that you would ever get a major store to offer it. Your best bet would be to find a small store (or make one) that does that kind of thing and give tutorials and such on the devices
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Y'know what, you have just given me the best idea
I've always thought I was just gonna, well, stumble through life. Advertised right I reckon I could do this. Just a little store somewhere (local shopping center) and my netbook.
"Bored of the same phone. I can give it a makeover with a custom ROM!"
Hell, if I can do this then I'll even use the XDA banner on the store
Thank you so much for the idea
There is a little shop here in my town that offers jail breaking service and root on some phones. I asked about doing me OG evo They told me they didn't do HTC phones because the root was unstable. obviously they were wrong so yeah it'd be a good idea if you really know what you're doing on a variety of devices
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There is a little shop here in my town that offers jail breaking service and root on some phones. I asked about doing me OG evo They told me they didn't do HTC phones because the root was unstable. obviously they were wrong so yeah it'd be a good idea if you really know what you're doing on a variety of devices
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I'm gonna look into it. Im comfortable with HTC and Sony Ericsson at the moment
I live in Houston one of the biggest cities and there are several small phone shops in which some of them do offer some root/modifying services. I have been seriously considering opening up my own small business. I already make money fixing screens, some hardware components and rooting/flashing roms on the devices of people I know. It all started with me posting pics of what I was doing to my own devices. Then the messages just started pouring in. I think a small place could work if a strong enough reputation was built up.
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I live in Houston one of the biggest cities and there are several small phone shops in which some of them do offer some root/modifying services. I have been seriously considering opening up my own small business. I already make money fixing screens, some hardware components and rooting/flashing roms on the devices of people I know. It all started with me posting pics of what I was doing to my own devices. Then the messages just started pouring in. I think a small place could work if a strong enough reputation was built up.
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At the weekend I'm going to ask some of the stall owners at the local shopping center how much it costs.
To use the XDA logo would I have to ask the site owner? Just since all these custom ROMs come from XDA it's only right that I show credit
Yeah, you'd have to ask the owners. I don't know that they'd let you use their logo for a shop that they don't actually have any oversight with but it can't hurt to ask.
Yea If somebody had got the phone messed up or didn't like the service they might blame xda
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Yea If somebody had got the phone messed up or didn't like the service they might blame xda
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Anybody have any ideas what the liability would be? What happens when we (this store) bricks someones phone?
I think that liability makes it pretty cost prohibitive, even if it happens once in one thousand, even if it was going to break anyway and just happened to correspond with flashing.
I don't think an xda banner would really be a good idea. One wrong thing could blow up into something grand and the consumer would blame the entire xda community. As far as liability goes; I'm not sure how insurance companies would look at it but my idea was to keep a seperate pool of money. For any instances of someone's device messing up.
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I didnt mean it as an "XDA Shop" Just an advertisement of where the ROMs are from.
As far as problems go, the vast majority are reversable. Ive gotten my Play stuck in bootloops and soft-bricks innumerable times now and just having a copy of the stock firmware handy works wonders
Hi guys this is my first time posting although I've been reading these forums for quite some time now
First of all i'd like to thank all the devs that work so hard for this phone. We all appreciate it immensely. :good:
Now down to business.
I've started a petition for LG and T-Mobile to release an update for the T-Mobile G2x (LG-P999).
I know this seems pretty useless at this point but hey its better to try then do nothing at all
I'd really appreciate it if everyone here could show there support and spread this around.
Petition: wwwchangeorg/petitions/lg-and-t-mobile-update-the-lg-g2x-lg-p999-to-android-4-x
Please also visit the lg forums and voice your opinion.
supportlgforumcom/lg/topics/g2x_owners_reply_if_you_want_android_4_0_ics_for_our_g2xs
Were bound to get noticed eventually. If it fails at least we kinda tried to put a thorn in LG's side xD
Thanks guys, please no negativity, im just trying to help us all out after all.
(BTW had to remove periods after www, change, support, and lgforum since im noob and can't post links )
There is a difference between negative and realistic. IMHO it would be a waste of time considering nexus 4 and EULA for the g2x.
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mansa_noob said:
There is a difference between negative and realistic. IMHO it would be a waste of time considering nexus 4 and EULA for the g2x.
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I think doing nothing is more of a waste of time. It's really not that hard to just go and comment at least on the lg forums.
If you go to the lg forums you will find a this written by an LG employee:
RyanLG (Official Rep) 4 days ago
"Nope, those are just the crickets from another thread I recently posted. There is not much else to add to this 160+ comment thread that has been of popular topic for the past year. All I can say is the Thrill finally received a software update to fix many of it's previous hardware and software issues. Nobody saw that coming in a million years and what do you know, it happened! And ever since the complaints have subsided substantially about that particular device and the praise for it is at an all time high. I fully understand the complaints and frustration from all the G2X owners, you deserve some sort of resolution. The best thing you can do at this point is let your voice be heard whether it be here, but more so to LG customer support, the carrier or anywhere else. I will escalate this thread to the top with hopes of some sort of resolution. A similar process benefited the Thrill, so who knows."
What he said is what im doing, trying to get people to voice their opinion about the phone.
Also what he said about the LG Thrill gives me some hope.
If you don't wanna sign the petition i understand but at least go to the official lg forums and "complain".
It may be a long shot and will probably never happen but why not try at least, like RyanLG said, "who knows"?
Maybe just maybe if we get a lot of people to show their frustration and support for an upgrade a miracle will happen.
Won't know for sure unless we try is all i'm trying to say :angel:
Also, since development is practically at a stand still what else is there to do?
Rummage through xda forums everyday hoping for something new? x.x
Maybe we can reach out to other developers with lots of experience to look at the radio problem or build Hackfest roms? We basically only have Maz left and we can't expect him to do everything for us.
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Bulletblitz27 said:
Maybe we can reach out to other developers with lots of experience to look at the radio problem or build Hackfest roms? We basically only have Maz left and we can't expect him to do everything for us.
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Maz is put through maintaining a gingerbread kernel on top of a new project that some users wanted, fixing bluetooth calling. There were some other projects maz had set put to do also. Such a nice guy but lets look at this situation realistically. This phone is a 'sunken ship'.
Bulletblitz27 said:
Maybe we can reach out to other developers with lots of experience to look at the radio problem or build Hackfest roms? We basically only have Maz left and we can't expect him to do everything for us.
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That'd be awesome if we could contact other devs to help with the ril issue. Problem I see there though is that I'm sure many of those devs are working hard on other projects. Plus, the ril issue is something that is really difficult to resolve (if even possible?) and Idk if more devs would even be of help at this point but nonetheless the more devs working on this phone the better.
JustinBieber said:
Maz is put through maintaining a gingerbread kernel on top of a new project that some users wanted, fixing bluetooth calling. There were some other projects maz had set put to do also. Such a nice guy but lets look at this situation realistically. This phone is a 'sunken ship'.
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I agree maz is super awesome! To me it seems like he's the only dev currently doing anything. Im using his latest beta kernel and my phone is not only snappy but also has awesome battery life so much props to him.
And I have accepted that this phone is a sunken ship but I will never lose hope
The phone is 2 years old at this point in the States. The end of life of the device through T-Mobile was January 2012. The hardware was pretty much a prototype version of the current Tegra 2 platform, and we'll never know the proper way to code for it. The RIL issues will never get fixed, nor did they have a shot to be fixed. If you're still on the device, you're either like me and too poor to afford an upgrade, or somehow stuck in a deal for the phone. If you used an EIP through T-Mo, you can pay it back early instead of monthly and get yourself a new one on the plan.
In the end it comes down to knowing exactly what phones are going to be popular for developers. Nexus devices and the Galaxy line are where you want to be if you want good support. That's where all the action is and will be for some time. The HTC One shows some promise, but with AT&T locking the bootloader, that's one less carrier brand that can be unlocked.
Pick wisely and don't bother with this stuff. Getting your hopes up will only cause you more anger when the truth comes around.
"The hardware was pretty much a prototype version of the current Tegra 2 platform, and we'll never know the proper way to code for it."
Interesting. Are you saying that the entire Optimus 2X line of phones was not based on the Tegra 2 platform used on other phones, but rather an incomplete prototype (probably because they were rushing it to market), or that this is only true for the G2X (aka P999), hence the differences between it and the other models?