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Google Talk with transports

As far as I know/knew, Google Talk was incompatible with transports to other networks (MSN). However, I saw this post
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=73c73792d8500518&hl=en
Which implied to me that it actually was working. Can anyone confirm that it is, and possible give me some tips on how to set it up?

I use a free transport with mine.
use an app like Psi on the desktop, add your google talk account, do a service discovery, enter the server you want to use and attach the transport.
I use MSN and ICQ transports and it works well.

I've got it set up now, thanks! There seems to be a significant delay in contacts changing status (online/offline). I'm guessing that's normal though.
Also, is there a way to get contacts to show up by their MSN nickname, instead of their email address? Some seem to, while others are stuck as an email. Maybe it just takes time for them to change?

I am using an ICQ Transport which is working just fine, no delay (guess that depends on what transport you're using, i'm on headcounter.org ((they've got MSN too)))
You should change the addresses manually (on GTalk) i had to do so too with some of my ICQ contacts as the transport isn't exactly perfect.

I use transports to some IM networks specific for my country: Gadu-Gadu and Tlen. I use them for years and get little issues. It's really nice to have talk history from all networks in one place - accessible from WWW or mobile Gmail app.
cbaltzer said:
Also, is there a way to get contacts to show up by their MSN nickname, instead of their email address? Some seem to, while others are stuck as an email. Maybe it just takes time for them to change?
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I think Jabber doesn't store contacts names on server side - only their IDs. This is client responsibility to name IDs, so even if you name them in one Jabber client, second one won't know these names.
GTalk, on the other hand, uses Google Contacts to store names and other information. If you look into all your contacts, you will see these imported from other IMs, e.g. contact named "[email protected]" with email "[email protected]". Then you could change their names and this should affect names in GTalk app.
But this is somewhat screwed up. First: you get a lot of garbage in your contacts and you can't remove it, because then Gtalk will automatically remove Jabber contacts too. Ofc if you re-add Jabber contacts then Google Contacts will be automatically recreated.
Second: you probably want to merge IM information with already existing contacts. You could move all info from existing contacts to IM ones and then remove first ones, but this is totally stupid. Unfortunately if you will try to do it other way, then GTalk will remove your Jabber contacts ;-)
I have found a trick: you have to disable sync in your phone and modify contacts from Gmail interface. Move IM info to old contacts, remove garbage and then GTalk won't remove Jabber contacts during sync, because it will find them in other contacts.
But there is also some tricky thing. GTalk info must be stored in exactly the same way as in automatically created contacts. AFAIR it must be added as email field of private type. This is totally stupid, because Google Contacts API supports field especially for GTalk information and actually Android use it in some places, but GTalk syncing doesn't. If you add this information as GTalk field, then GTalk will remove Jabber contact or recreate garbage - I don't remember. I have added IM info in both email and GTalk fields to get full functionality.
Ahh and it's possible that Google fixed some of these issues. I was porting my contacts about year ago.

cbaltzer said:
I've got it set up now, thanks! There seems to be a significant delay in contacts changing status (online/offline). I'm guessing that's normal though.
Also, is there a way to get contacts to show up by their MSN nickname, instead of their email address? Some seem to, while others are stuck as an email. Maybe it just takes time for them to change?
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Which transport server did you use for MSN?

theSpam said:
Which transport server did you use for MSN?
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Sorry for the late reply, I sent in my N1 for a replacement, and haven't gotten the new one yet so I've been using my iPhone.
I used jabber.hot-chilli.net which gave me a bit of delay, then headcounter.org as it was recommended above. Headcounter didn't convert emails to nicknames like hot-chilli did (sometimes), so I switched back. Still looking for alternatives.
Edit: Actually, I remember there being a problem after I switched to headcounter.org, causing Talk to force close. Something with how the contact names are parsed, I saw in another thread.

does this work anymore for anyone?
I'm unable to get any services listed when I'm connected to GTalk.
Tested several transport servers but neither are returning any services.
If I connect to an other jabber server services are returned from the same transport servers..

Use Psi to add the transport. Set it up to connect to Google's servers and sign in. When you go to add the transport, manually put in another server. Use jabber.hot-chilli.net, they use an updated Jabber server that parses names correctly so they don't crash Google Talk.
You'll have to authorize each contact once the transport is added, but Google put in an authorization limit per day, so only 40 or so will go through. The rest you'll see with a little red question mark on their status icon. Right click on them and go to authorize and resend the authorization manually. This may take a couple of days depending on how many contacts you have. As they authorize you'll see them show up in Google Talk.
Also, you may want to add their IM address to your actual contacts. Open GMail and find a contact, add a Google Talk IM listing, and put in their_email\[email protected] When you're signed in on your phone you'll see their status next to their name in Messages, Phone, and Contacts. Its handy.
I wrote a blog post on it here: http://chrisbaltzer.com
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Facebook app

Which app do you advise ? The Samsung integrated in the Social Hub or the official one from the market ?
I come from a TP where I really liked HTC's integration of facebook in Sense. Not too invasive and living quite well with my exchange account
Right now my contacts in my outlook (2011) on my PC are linked with their facebook profile, and so are they in Sense. With my Tab I worry a little bit about putting a mess in a system that has found its balance
Any risk to duplicate contacts if I use the Samsubg app ? Or the Android app ? Will they merge properly with my exchnage contacts ? Stay aside ?
I just dont wnat to make the step to find out after I messed up my contact list (More than 1200 people so clenaing that up would take me a few days....)

Hi I use Facebook from the market and also use one called boo
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If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
The built-in one is pretty much for synching only, any actual facebook viewing would need to be done via the browser.
I switched from the built-in SNS client to the official Facebook client and didn't experience any problems.

knightnz said:
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
The built-in one is pretty much for synching only, any actual facebook viewing would need to be done via the browser.
I switched from the built-in SNS client to the official Facebook client and didn't experience any problems.
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I haven't installed anything yet Not tryig to fix anything just trying to be sure what I'll do wont create troubles to my contact list
The built-in app is just meant to sync your existing contacts on the phone and match them with facebook friends ? Or it adds all the facebook friends ?
The official app doesnt do this ?

Don't get the account permissions confused if you install the market app. Its annoying to find you gave the stock app permissions that arent on the market app.
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Alcibiade said:
I haven't installed anything yet Not tryig to fix anything just trying to be sure what I'll do wont create troubles to my contact list
The built-in app is just meant to sync your existing contacts on the phone and match them with facebook friends ? Or it adds all the facebook friends ?
The official app doesnt do this ?
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Both versions sync contact pictures etc. The official app gives you the option to sync pictures+status updates with all friends, just those with existing contact entries, or none at all.

knightnz said:
Both versions sync contact pictures etc. The official app gives you the option to sync pictures+status updates with all friends, just those with existing contact entries, or none at all.
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OK, thanks. To be clear the Samsung one will not offer more and wont let me the choice about what I sync and what i don't sync

Alcibiade said:
OK, thanks. To be clear the Samsung one will not offer more and wont let me the choice about what I sync and what i don't sync
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Anyone ? Maybe I am making too much fuss about this but I dont wnat to mes up my exchange contact list...

Not 100% sure about this, but I don't think it will mess up any of your existing contacts.
When logging in using the official Facebook app, it will create a sort of 'profile' for all existing contacts -- it won't merge info with the actual contact. You'll see this when you edit a contact, there will be 2 (or more) tabs when editing the contact.
It's like a 'Metacontact' in Trillian wherein it's only a merged 'View' of a contact, but in reality the data is in separate 'profiles'. The Facebook tab is uneditable and will only display info.
The only problem I have so far is that when creating a new SMS, it will display -ALL- contact numbers and e-mail address of contacts, even if the number is exactly the same:
i.e. I have a contact named Bob Smith in my Google, Exchange and Facebook accounts, and they are merged as one account. In the Dialer, all the info is merged into one contact when displaying, but when editing, they are editable in 3 separate tabs.
However when I create an SMS and scroll to find Bob Smith, it displays all contact infos of Bob Smith, even duplicate ones, like if I have his number +123456789 on Google and Exchange and Facebook, it displays 3 same numbers when selecting a recipient.
Edit:
Also, when you sign out or remove the Facebook app, it will delete the Facebook 'profile' of the contact on your contacts list, maintaining the state of the previous contact before you logged in / installed Facebook.

Thanks a lot, that's good to know
I already saw the mess it was having google contacts and exchnage contacts (I usually maintain both... for 1200 contacts!) The worst is for contacts for which I entered only the first name... they happen to be all merged together (Well done samsung... They could have defined a merge key a bit larger than just the name........)
What about when you use the Samsung app ?? Someone knows ?

Google+ The Who's & What's?!

Just Thought I Could Post This Here Incase Someone Needs Help With Google+...
Google+ Is Still in BETA!
Part I (Intro)
What Is Google+ ?
Google+ is a new social network just like Facebook or Myspace (Tom is the only one there). Currently Google+ is ONLY available to certain people who have invitations from other memebers in Google+. In other words you can only join by being invited. Google+ is like having Twitter & Facebook both together. Obviously right now it is not over populated like both Twitter & Facebook are.
Part II (Requirements)
What Are The Requirements To Joining Google+?
Have A Gmail Account!
Whats Gmail?
Seriously? Go back to Myspace! SMH!
Part III (Adding The Sanchos & Sanchas)
How Do You Add Your Friends To Google+?
1st. Make sure you have your friends Gmail Adress in your Gmail contacts account or atleast on your mobile phone under their contacts.
Ex.(NEW CONTACT FORMAT) From Gmail ---> Go to www.google.com ---> click on Gmail (or search for "Gmail Log-In" on Yahoo,Bing,Google etc.) ---> Click "Contacts" ---> Click "Add To My Contacts" --->Type YOUR Contacts Name (ex. Banana) and click enter ---> Your Contact Should Be Saved ---> Scroll down until you see your contact and click on their name and a new windwo should pop up ---> where it says "Email" add their email their and then click enter.
Ex.(EDIT EXISTING CONTACT FORMAT) ---> Go to www.google.com ---> click on Gmail (or search for "Gmail Log-In" on Yahoo,Bing,Google etc.) ---> Click "Contacts" ---> Scroll down to select your contact. ---> Click on the contact you want to select or edit ---> A new window should pop up ---> Where it says "Email" just add their email there.
2nd. Go to your Google+ Profile.
3rd. Click On Circles.
4th. Click on the "Drop here to create a new circle".
5th. Name it WHATEVER YOU LIKE. Then click enter to save it.
Ex. Friends, Family, Friends w/ Benifits (Lol) etc.
6th. Click on the first square where it says "Add a new person"
7th. Type/Paste the persons email. (WHO EVER YOU WANT TO ADD). Then click enter.
8th. By now the person you added should appear their either by Name or Email. CLICK, DRAG & DROP the person of your choice to the circle you want to add them too.
9th. Now click the little house icon and go "Home" to your profile. This is where you will invite your friends to join Google+. Look at the example provided & MAKE SURE YOU DO IT EXACTLY AS IS OR IT WONT WORK!.
Ex. Hey Jorge Acosta [email protected]
Join Google Plus.
9th. A) You NEED to know the persons FIRST & LAST name & PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU DO IT EXACTLY LIKE THE EXAMPLE PROVIDED! JUST REPLACE THE NAME AND EMAIL ADRESS.
10th. Click enter and thats it!
ALLOW 30+ TO 24HRS FOR THIS TO BE PROCEED!
How do I search for existing friends on Google+?
On your home page there's this search box. It says "Find Friends"... Yup that easy. LOL!
How do i use Google+?
(I) Adding A Comment.
THIS IS NOT AVAILABLE YET!
(II) Adding Photos & Everything Else:
Go to your profile! Or Just click your photo. Then look for the tab where it says "Edit Profile". It should be Blue.
Then a red/orange bar should pop up.
Click on anything you want to change nor edit.
After your done then just click where it says "Done Editing".
And thats it.
(II) Editing Your Setting:
On the right hand top side corner there should be a settings icon.
Just click on it and scroll down to "Google+ Settings".
- Account Overview:
Here you cane change your passwords or add multiple google account sign-ins and alot of other important things.
- Profile & Privacy:
This is very straight forward and simple. Here you can edit all your profile privacy stuff. Nothing Much to explain.
- Google+
Here you can edit your Notifications and choose whether you want to receive them in both SMS nor Email. You can also add an edit what email you want to use to receive your notifications.
- Language:
Choose thelanguage you speak. Everything will be display in this language.
- Data liberation:
Here you basicly do a back up of all the data you want either from Google+ or the available services.
- Connected Accounts:
Here you can add accounts from other websites such as FB or Twitter. That way you can connect easier with people to see what you guys have in common. It tells you right there what it does lol.
What is sparks?
Sparks is basicly just news about the topics you select. if you like it you can share it in you profile. Not really sure about this feauture. Just know its news period. lol.
For further info you can always click on the "Welcome" tab in your home page.

Hey buddy can you please send me
An invitation?i can send you my mail by pm..
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sent it buddy!

I sent it allready
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thank you soooooo much buddy!!!!

Google+ The Who's & What's?!

YESSSSSSSSS I KNOW THIS DOESNT RELATE TO SGS4G BUT TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE ASKING ME ABOUT GOOGLE+ JUST THOUGHT I COULD HELP OUT WITH SOMETHING... (FEEL FREE TO DELETE IT I REALLY DON'T MIND JUST WANTED TO HELP)
Just Thought I Could Post This Here Incase Someone Needs Help With Google+...
Google+ Is Still in BETA!
Part I (Intro)
What Is Google+ ?
Google+ is a new social network just like Facebook or Myspace (Tom is the only one there). Currently Google+ is ONLY available to certain people who have invitations from other memebers in Google+. In other words you can only join by being invited. Google+ is like having Twitter & Facebook both together. Obviously right now it is not over populated like both Twitter & Facebook are.
Part II (Requirements)
What Are The Requirements To Joining Google+?
Have A Gmail Account!
Whats Gmail?
Seriously? Go back to Myspace! SMH!
Part III (Adding The Sanchos & Sanchas)
How Do You Add Your Friends To Google+?
1st. Make sure you have your friends Gmail Adress in your Gmail contacts account or atleast on your mobile phone under their contacts.
Ex.(NEW CONTACT FORMAT) From Gmail ---> Go to www.google.com ---> click on Gmail (or search for "Gmail Log-In" on Yahoo,Bing,Google etc.) ---> Click "Contacts" ---> Click "Add To My Contacts" --->Type YOUR Contacts Name (ex. Banana) and click enter ---> Your Contact Should Be Saved ---> Scroll down until you see your contact and click on their name and a new windwo should pop up ---> where it says "Email" add their email their and then click enter.
Ex.(EDIT EXISTING CONTACT FORMAT) ---> Go to www.google.com ---> click on Gmail (or search for "Gmail Log-In" on Yahoo,Bing,Google etc.) ---> Click "Contacts" ---> Scroll down to select your contact. ---> Click on the contact you want to select or edit ---> A new window should pop up ---> Where it says "Email" just add their email there.
2nd. Go to your Google+ Profile.
3rd. Click On Circles.
4th. Click on the "Drop here to create a new circle".
5th. Name it WHATEVER YOU LIKE. Then click enter to save it.
Ex. Friends, Family, Friends w/ Benifits (Lol) etc.
6th. Click on the first square where it says "Add a new person"
7th. Type/Paste the persons email. (WHO EVER YOU WANT TO ADD). Then click enter.
8th. By now the person you added should appear their either by Name or Email. CLICK, DRAG & DROP the person of your choice to the circle you want to add them too.
9th. Now click the little house icon and go "Home" to your profile. This is where you will invite your friends to join Google+. Look at the example provided & MAKE SURE YOU DO IT EXACTLY AS IS OR IT WONT WORK!.
Ex. Hey Jorge Acosta [email protected]
Join Google Plus.
9th. A) You NEED to know the persons FIRST & LAST name & PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU DO IT EXACTLY LIKE THE EXAMPLE PROVIDED! JUST REPLACE THE NAME AND EMAIL ADRESS.
10th. Click enter and thats it!
ALLOW 30+ TO 24HRS FOR THIS TO BE PROCEED!
How do I search for existing friends on Google+?
On your home page there's this search box. It says "Find Friends"... Yup that easy. LOL!
How do i use Google+?
(I) Adding A Comment.
THIS IS NOT AVAILABLE YET!
(II) Adding Photos & Everything Else:
Go to your profile! Or Just click your photo. Then look for the tab where it says "Edit Profile". It should be Blue.
Then a red/orange bar should pop up.
Click on anything you want to change nor edit.
After your done then just click where it says "Done Editing".
And thats it.
(II) Editing Your Setting:
On the right hand top side corner there should be a settings icon.
Just click on it and scroll down to "Google+ Settings".
- Account Overview:
Here you cane change your passwords or add multiple google account sign-ins and alot of other important things.
- Profile & Privacy:
This is very straight forward and simple. Here you can edit all your profile privacy stuff. Nothing Much to explain.
- Google+
Here you can edit your Notifications and choose whether you want to receive them in both SMS nor Email. You can also add an edit what email you want to use to receive your notifications.
- Language:
Choose thelanguage you speak. Everything will be display in this language.
- Data liberation:
Here you basicly do a back up of all the data you want either from Google+ or the available services.
- Connected Accounts:
Here you can add accounts from other websites such as FB or Twitter. That way you can connect easier with people to see what you guys have in common. It tells you right there what it does lol.
What is sparks?
Sparks is basicly just news about the topics you select. if you like it you can share it in you profile. Not really sure about this feauture. Just know its news period. lol.
For further info you can always click on the "Welcome" tab in your home page.

..............

What is that suppose to mean? Is it bad? Lol
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lol. that red font is really big. didnt expect it. and its 100% irrelevent to the forum and completely unexpected. people could just google it. ha. no, i dont mean anything bad by it. it was more of a "wtf? where did that come from?!"

Lol i kno right! It just that omfg people got on my nerves they are always asking what google+ is lol
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How does one add accounts to the "Me" profile?

Installed the official ICS release today and am loving it (though there are a few things I still need to get used to). So far I've only had one issue I haven't been able to find a solution to. The ICS People app includes an entry for "Me," a personal profile. I added my information to this, but I'm wondering if there's a way to also attach third-party accounts (Google+, Twitter, Skype, et cetera) to it, like I can do for my regular contacts. It doesn't seem to do so automatically, and there's no "Join" option in the Edit menu like there is for other contacts, so I can't imagine what the procedure would be.
Any thoughts on how to do this? Does such a feature even exist? It's not a big deal or anything, I'm just curious, and my obsessive side is bothered by not knowing.

Anyone? No one? Going once...

Twice.....

Yes u can ... go to just click edit and click Add another field and then select "IM" then in front of there it already says AIM but u can change that too Skype G+ or WinLive even Yahoo hope i helped somehow

irizwan said:
Yes u can ... go to just click edit and click Add another field and then select "IM" then in front of there it already says AIM but u can change that too Skype G+ or WinLive even Yahoo hope i helped somehow
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That doesn't seem to actually add Connections, though.

Are there any updates?
I deleted the ME Card, and after that i can only enter all Data manually.
But as far as i remember, there where multiple accounts linked:
* google+
* google talk
* xing
* whatsapp
* skype
Hope someone can point me to the right direction
greetings
dakky