I just ordered the eee pad from newegg...got the UPS tracking number today. Anyway...I would assume it would be fairly easy to upgrade to Ice Cream Sandwich when it comes out, hopefully by ASUS pushing it out, or by rooting and putting the ROM on yourself. Probably getting ahead of myself here, since 3.1 isn't even here yet, but I just don't want a tablet that has outdated software in 4 months.
Now, need to sell my OG iPad. Craigslist I guess, ebay fees have gotten outrageous.
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I just ordered the eee pad from newegg...got the UPS tracking number today. Anyway...I would assume it would be fairly easy to upgrade to Ice Cream Sandwich when it comes out, hopefully by ASUS pushing it out, or by rooting and putting the ROM on yourself. Probably getting ahead of myself here, since 3.1 isn't even here yet, but I just don't want a tablet that has outdated software in 4 months.
Now, need to sell my OG iPad. Craigslist I guess, ebay fees have gotten outrageous.
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I sold my ipad on eBay but that's only because my city isn't big enough so no one would buy it. Is "ice cream sandwich" referring to 3.1? If so, Asus already made an official announcement that the TF will get it in June
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Ice Cream Sandwich is the version after Honeycomb, so it will actually come after 3.1. It is supposed to get rid of the "fragmentation" issue with android and make it easier for developers. Shoot, I wonder if I get the HTC Evo 3D, if I will be able to get Ice Cream Sandwich on that down the road. It's supposed to work on both phones and tablets.
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I sold my ipad on eBay but that's only because my city isn't big enough so no one would buy it. Is "ice cream sandwich" referring to 3.1? If so, Asus already made an official announcement that the TF will get it in June
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3.1 got released what a week ago? Hold your horses kid.
Anyways Asus announced that they were working on 3.1 the day after 3.1 got released, they said expect it within a month.
So I really doubt icecream sandwhich will take 4 months.
I know I'm getting ahead of myself, but I was just more curious if ASUS was proactive on pushing updates out. Sounds like they are. I just don't want to have to purchase a new tablet in say 6-7 months if they decide not to upgrade this model.
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3.1 got released what a week ago? Hold your horses kid.
Anyways Asus announced that they were working on 3.1 the day after 3.1 got released, they said expect it within a month.
So I really doubt icecream sandwhich will take 4 months.
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If I'm not mistaken isn't icecream sandwich the phone verion of honeycomb?
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If I'm not mistaken isn't icecream sandwich the phone verion of honeycomb?
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No, Ice Cream Sandwich is the unification of tablet-Android and traditional phone-Android. It's meant to be used by both.
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If I'm not mistaken isn't icecream sandwich the phone verion of honeycomb?
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yea, this is my understanding as well. and it's version is 2.4 (after gingerbread, 2.3)
http://www.pcworld.com/article/216558/android_24_ice_cream_details_drip.html
it is meant to bring some honeycomb goodness into the phone version. so for the TF to get ice cream sandwich would be a downgrade.
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yea, this is my understanding as well. and it's version is 2.4 (after gingerbread, 2.3)
http://www.pcworld.com/article/216558/android_24_ice_cream_details_drip.html
it is meant to bring some honeycomb goodness into the phone version. so for the TF to get ice cream sandwich would be a downgrade.
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2.4 if it exists willvstill be gingerbread. Ice cream sandwich will most likely be 4.0 and will run on phones, tablets and google tv.
Ice Cream Sandwich, unlike Honeycomb, will be open source. So we'll definitely see it on the TF one way or another.
okay so most of you guys don't know what your talking about let me explain.
Phones: Gingerbread 2.3
GoogleTV: Custom Froyo 2.2
Tablets: Honeycomb 3.0.1/3.1.
3.1 is a honeycomb update that adds a few features and improvements.
Gingerbread 2.3 is the last version of the phone only android.
Ice Cream Sandwich, which will most likely be 4.0 but at least something greater than 3.1 combines Phones, GoogleTV, and Tablets all into one OS.
With Ice Cream Sandwich, all devices will be running the same version of android.
It will come out this holiday first and according to google most current gen devices will get it. There is no reason why the transformer won't get ICS this holiday.
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okay so most of you guys don't know what your talking about let me explain.
Phones: Gingerbread 2.3
GoogleTV: Custom Froyo 2.2
Tablets: Honeycomb 3.0.1/3.1.
3.1 is a honeycomb update that adds a few features and improvements.
Gingerbread 2.3 is the last version of the phone only android.
Ice Cream Sandwich, which will most likely be 4.0 but at least something greater than 3.1 combines Phones, GoogleTV, and Tablets all into one OS.
With Ice Cream Sandwich, all devices will be running the same version of android.
It will come out this holiday first and according to google most current gen devices will get it. There is no reason why the transformer won't get ICS this holiday.
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Thank you. I was beginning to lose faith in this thread. I don't think I have read so much misinformation in all of XDA. You beat me to the punch.
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okay so most of you guys don't know what your talking about let me explain.
Phones: Gingerbread 2.3
GoogleTV: Custom Froyo 2.2
Tablets: Honeycomb 3.0.1/3.1.
3.1 is a honeycomb update that adds a few features and improvements.
Gingerbread 2.3 is the last version of the phone only android.
Ice Cream Sandwich, which will most likely be 4.0 but at least something greater than 3.1 combines Phones, GoogleTV, and Tablets all into one OS.
With Ice Cream Sandwich, all devices will be running the same version of android.
It will come out this holiday first and according to google most current gen devices will get it. There is no reason why the transformer won't get ICS this holiday.
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I did some research and I guess I didn't know what I was talking about, but my thing was if it was going to be on a phone wouldn't it have a phone interface. Why would you want a phone interface on your tablet? I think they are going to accomplish this by having different interfaces on different LCD densities as shown here:
http://phandroid.com/2011/05/20/set...y-above-160-get-a-taste-of-gingerbread-video/
I am in no way an Android/coding expert but this is the only way that makes sense.
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I did some research and I guess I didn't know what I was talking about, but my thing was if it was going to be on a phone wouldn't it have a phone interface. Why would you want a phone interface on your tablet? I think they are going to accomplish this by having different interfaces on different LCD densities as shown here:
http://phandroid.com/2011/05/20/set...y-above-160-get-a-taste-of-gingerbread-video/
I am in no way an Android/coding expert but this is the only way that makes sense.
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With ICS the honeycomb UI is being redesigned for the phones.
On tablets ICS will probably look identical to honeycomb just like eclair through gingerbread didn't change much other than images.
But on phones, it'll be a complete redesign of the android UI taking the honeycomb holographic UI and bringing it over to phones.
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I did some research and I guess I didn't know what I was talking about, but my thing was if it was going to be on a phone wouldn't it have a phone interface.
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Two things to consider here:
1. The Launcher - this can be different across different devices if Google wish, because this is essentially just an application.
2. Fragment support - probably the biggest single addition to Honeycomb is the addition of fragments. Effectively this introduces a single consistent API for multi-paned applications (think Honeycombs Gmail etc). Essentially, an application can decide what fragments a particular device can display and adjust its UI accordingly, so there's no need for a tablet and phone version of a particular application.
Ice Cream Sandwich is effectively the unification of Honeycomb and Gingerbread effectively, and will allow the same OS to serve up a different UI and experience between different classes of device.
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Dave
This will presumably put android on a similar basis as Apple's IOS which is used on iphones and ipads
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This will presumably put android on a similar basis as Apple's IOS which is used on iphones and ipads
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Not exactly! If anything, it puts it ahead of iOS because it should allow for tablet apps to run on a phone, and vice versa.
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Dave
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Ice Cream Sandwich is effectively the unification of Honeycomb and Gingerbread effectively, and will allow the same OS to serve up a different UI and experience between different classes of device.
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True, and you can see now on honeycomb that if you change the LCD density (to show a more dense screen such as a phone) the Gingerbread Interface because default on a reboot.
the biggest thing i've seen and this is what makes it better then the ios is the fact that games that are ment for a phone will properly scale for tablets where as games that are on the iphone that aren't ment for the ipad look grainy at the very least so this will give a lot more freedom when coming to cross platforming
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Well everybody should be excited to hear that android 3.1 is upon us.
The next version of Google's Android operating system, codenamed Ice Cream Sandwich, will converge the formerly disparate phone and tablet versions of the OS, Google announced at its I/O keynote today. Ice Cream Sandwich will maintain a single UI across all form factors and will allow developers to create applications for both kinds of devices in one motion. It will follow the rollout of Android 3.1 to the Motorola Xoom tablet and Google TV.
Google says the Ice Cream Sandwich version of Android will "all be open source," including APIs for face-tracking and other new features. Developers will be able to account for all form factors within this same version of the OS, and Google will be adding a lot of UIs to accommodate Android devices of all shapes and sizes.
The announcement of Ice Cream Sandwich followed news of Android 3.1, which carries desirable features like resizable widgets in the application launcher. Android 3.1's trip over to Google TV will also carry with it the Android Marketplace and the usability of USB devices. At the keynote, Hugo Barra, director of Android product management, demoed the use of an XBox 360 controller with an Android game.
No official launch date has yet been announced for Ice Cream Sandwich, but Android 3.1 will be available to compatible devices as of today.
Oh ya one more thing, T-Mobile, AT&T and Verizon announced that it will be updating all devices to the new version of android until their 18 month birthday. So yes the mytouch will get Ice Cream Sandwich!!!!!!!!
Ice cream sandwich...
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....Oh ya one more thing, T-Mobile, AT&T and Verizon announced that it will be updating all devices to the new version if android until their 18 month birthday. So yes the mytouch will get Ice Cream Sandwich!!!!!!!!
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You mean untill the devices 18 month birthday? Hope so.
WoW... That is Great News!! I want an ice cream sandwich!!
I wonder how ice cream mysense will look or if it will resemble the doubleshot instead w/ 3d ui.
Actually the keynote said that new devices from here on out would be supported for 18 months... but Ice Cream Sandwhich CM would probably work on our phones.
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Cant wait
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Actually the keynote said that new devices from here on out would be supported for 18 months... but Ice Cream Sandwhich CM would probably work on our phones.
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So this device came out around novemeberish so we'll stop seeing "official" support around mid 2012ish. Well that's good to know at least, not really worried since we have XDA for the roms and other things.
Ice cream sandwich will have hardware exceleration right? Correct me if I'm wrong!
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cant wait this is gunna be so dope
Looks interesting
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rest assured, as soon as a leak for any device becomes available, you guys will have a nice pretty version of this for your Glaciers in no time flat ...
Ace42 said:
So this device came out around novemeberish so we'll stop seeing "official" support around mid 2012ish. Well that's good to know at least, not really worried since we have XDA for the roms and other things.
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Unfortunately, as I believe someone else has already mentioned that is for devices moving forward and I would imagine will not apply to our phones. They have not even really set any guidelines as to how they will even go about ensuring updates for devices, it's just a group of carriers and device manufacturers that have said they will attempt to follow through on this promise. I'm hopeful, but there is still the same issue of custom UIs, which require the manufacturer / carrier to update their code, and I think we all know how well that has worked out so far.
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Unfortunately, as I believe someone else has already mentioned that is for devices moving forward and I would imagine will not apply to our phones. They have not even really set any guidelines as to how they will even go about ensuring updates for devices, it's just a group of carriers and device manufacturers that have said they will attempt to follow through on this promise. I'm hopeful, but there is still the same issue of custom UIs, which require the manufacturer / carrier to update their code, and I think we all know how well that has worked out so far.
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that's why we have the development forum we've all been enjoying a better iteration of gingerbread than tmobile/HTC/whoever could ever throw at us for 6 months or more
Ice Cream Sandwich looks promising!
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i think they should just drop the sandwich and call it Ice Cream!
though i do love ice cream sandwich..
gd6noob said:
i think they should just drop the sandwich and call it Ice Cream!
though i do love ice cream sandwich..
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Logo would look too much like Froyo...
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geoffreywolter said:
Unfortunately, as I believe someone else has already mentioned that is for devices moving forward and I would imagine will not apply to our phones. They have not even really set any guidelines as to how they will even go about ensuring updates for devices, it's just a group of carriers and device manufacturers that have said they will attempt to follow through on this promise. I'm hopeful, but there is still the same issue of custom UIs, which require the manufacturer / carrier to update their code, and I think we all know how well that has worked out so far.
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I agree, thankfully we have great devs!
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I hope something good comes out of this
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Yessss honeycomb for phones I doubt it will be official for this.phone since google recommends dual core for honeycomb, and this is pretty much honeycomb, but better
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so hearing the rumors of a new nexus coming with ice cream does that mean us current nexus s users especially the 4g won't get the ice cream update? id like to think the phone will be supported for awhile yet?
fixxxer2008 said:
so hearing the rumors of a new nexus coming with ice cream does that mean us current nexus s users especially the 4g won't get the ice cream update? id like to think the phone will be supported for awhile yet?
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Of course our beloved phone will get the latest updates, at least for 18 months after the release. Nexus One already has the Gingerbread update, why wouldn't we get Ice cream Sandwich?
You can sleep tight, our Nexus S will continue to be supported for quite some time
treUse said:
Of course our beloved phone will get the latest updates, at least for 18 months after the release. Nexus One already has the Gingerbread update, why wouldn't we get Ice cream Sandwich?
You can sleep tight, our Nexus S will continue to be supported for quite some time
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mostly because i heard you will need a dual core to run it and our phones do not have that.
that's typical marketing bull ****. They said the same thing about gingerbread and my HTC CDMA hero is running it faster than the original 1.6.
Google never said that any newer version of android will need dual core. This is just what all the manufacturers would like you to believe so you buy into the hype and spend money for a new phone.
I bet you, all Nexus line phones will get ice cream sandwich before the SDK is even posted.
obsanity said:
that's typical marketing bull ****. They said the same thing about gingerbread and my HTC CDMA hero is running it faster than the original 1.6.
Google never said that any newer version of android will need dual core. This is just what all the manufacturers would like you to believe so you buy into the hype and spend money for a new phone.
I bet you, all Nexus line phones will get ice cream sandwich before the SDK is even posted.
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good to know!
fixxxer2008 said:
so hearing the rumors of a new nexus coming with ice cream does that mean us current nexus s users especially the 4g won't get the ice cream update? id like to think the phone will be supported for awhile yet?
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Google has been courting both HTC and LG for the next Nexus device. I posted a link to HTC's candidate on another thread. I know a lot of people will be disappointed if we dont get it but the NS4G is only weeks old the device itself is going on 6 months ...ours is just a refresh with a 4G radio. That being said i still think most 1ghz processor/512mb + devices should see the update. Eventhough at launch it wasnt the best speced device available. (A lot of the reason N1 users didnt jump ship for it and the reason we dont have the following of the N1 imo.)But all the reports from Google IO/CNET say its to bridge the gap between handsets and tabs. I know it stings but our device is dated already I'm not saying its a lack luster device but...It's not like the N1 which is still comparable to a majority of high end handsets available. The Nexus S just didn't make the evolutionary jump as far as the N1 did IMO. But time will tell I guess.
ICS info...
http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=20062119&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-266
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I will upgrade regardless. The Nexus S is an excellent device, but I could use more RAM.
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Can someone tell me the difference between the 3 and how it applies to the nexus s? I am getting to where I really love this device but starting to want the evo3d.
thanks
They are all different android distributions
Honeycomb is designed for tablets but ice cream sandwich is yet to come out
Btw u have the wrong section, this should go in nexus s q&a
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mathkid95 said:
They are all different android distributions
Honeycomb is designed for tablets but ice cream sandwich is yet to come out
Btw u have the wrong section, this should go in nexus s q&a
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Brief but to the point...thanks. I'll stick with cm7 and miui til cream comes out.
Yeah those are based off of 2.3 gingerbread
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Gingerbread is the latest smartphone Android OS. Honeycomb is a heavily modified Froyo/Gingerbread created specifically for tablets. ICS is the next generation of Android, merging the codebase of Gingerbread and Honeycomb (and new features) into a single OS appropriate for use on tablets and smartphones.
Honeycomb is, according to Google, somewhat of a rushed OS. It was cobbled together quickly just to get out an OS that's halfway decent for a tablet.
Smh.
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Gingerbread is the latest smartphone Android OS. Honeycomb is a heavily modified Froyo/Gingerbread created specifically for tablets. ICS is the next generation of Android, merging the codebase of Gingerbread and Honeycomb (and new features) into a single OS appropriate for use on tablets and smartphones.
Honeycomb is, according to Google, somewhat of a rushed OS. It was cobbled together quickly just to get out an OS that's halfway decent for a tablet.
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Which is exactly why I am waiting for ICS tablets before I lay down my "hard" earned cash
How is it this dude has flashed ROMs and such and does not know the damn difference between GB and HC? Seriously wtf? SMH.
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How is it this dude has flashed ROMs and such and does not know the damn difference between GB and HC? Seriously wtf? SMH.
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I guess I missed the "Primer on upcoming Android versions" in the rooting guide.
Anyone have an inkling on the possibilities of Ice Cream Sandwich for our Gtablet?
I guess anything is possible. Nobody thought we'd have working Honeycomb as of 3 months ago...
Damn, us gtab users are demanding. Ice scream sandwich isn't even out yet, and there's already a demand for it.
Doubt it
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Like everything else for the G Tab it will be a hack since Viewsonic told its G Tab fan base to go ef themselves.
Ice cream sandwich will be open source unlike honeycomb. There might be possible that NVidia also can release drivers because source availability. If things go in the mentioned way then we can expect Ice cream sandwich. But ICS will be merge of GB and HC, not quite sure how much value add it will provide to the end users, but for Google and Vendors it great leap because of one version works for all. Lets wait and see...
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Ice cream sandwich will be open source unlike honeycomb. There might be possible that NVidia also can release drivers because source availability. If things go in the mentioned way then we can expect Ice cream sandwich. But ICS will be merge of GB and HC, not quite sure how much value add it will provide to the end users, but for Google and Vendors it great leap because of one version works for all. Lets wait and see...
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I read someplace that HC will be open sourced when Ice cream Sandwich is released
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I read someplace that HC will be open sourced when Ice cream Sandwich is released
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I guess Google held back release of HC code because of fear of the two separate version of Android code in the market. Google wants no confusion, and so decided to release ICS to the communities and vendors. Again, it all depends ont he company's decision at that moment. Lets wait and see...
Hope for the best always
gTablet done, IMHO
No signs of any life re extending gTablet's life by manufacturer. And in today's aftermarket $MMI conference call another two tablets coming by year's end. No details other than 4LTE. A crowded field, all playing catch-up to the iPad 1/2. If the gTablet gets any further enhancements it will only due to the great work of the XDA developers here.
Is there any way to get a full version of ics on a iPad 1?
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lol no.
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LOL. No ICS never porting to iDevices.
http://idroidproject.org/wiki/Status
Check that page. As of now they got 2.3.2 gingerbread running on certain legacy idevices. However the function is limited. That link shows whats working on what devices. I know none of the ipads are working at all. The iDroid project was/is just a way to show that it is physically possible to run the Android platform on the iPhone. I was running 2.1 or 2.2 (dont remember the version) on my old ipod touch 1gen and it booted and was capable of a few functions. There's no power management so theres no sleep mode so the battery would die in a matter of minutes. There's no acceleration so no games/video and it was slow as hell. There's no cellular data 2G/3G at all. No Google apps because it was an AOSP based port.
Its in an alpha state so its unusable for daily use, however I was able to use it to browse the internet. honestly everyone who had seen it on my ipod thought it was junk (or just a theme) but i have to give credit to whoever got Android running on an iPhone.
http://www.idroidproject.org/forum/index.php/topic,2228.0.html
There's a update about the project in a forum post. It says something about creating the newer idroid updates off of cyanogenmod. Also lists something about porting ICS CM9 to newer generation idevices in the future. So if youre interested, this may be something to look into.
Yes, in fact, its quite easy. You first take the ipad into the car, drive to the gas station, buy an ice cream sandwich, and eat it while using your ipad, there you go, ice cream sandwich and ipad at the same time!
just smack the ice cream in center of 2 ipads, problem solved.