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Well everybody should be excited to hear that android 3.1 is upon us.
The next version of Google's Android operating system, codenamed Ice Cream Sandwich, will converge the formerly disparate phone and tablet versions of the OS, Google announced at its I/O keynote today. Ice Cream Sandwich will maintain a single UI across all form factors and will allow developers to create applications for both kinds of devices in one motion. It will follow the rollout of Android 3.1 to the Motorola Xoom tablet and Google TV.
Google says the Ice Cream Sandwich version of Android will "all be open source," including APIs for face-tracking and other new features. Developers will be able to account for all form factors within this same version of the OS, and Google will be adding a lot of UIs to accommodate Android devices of all shapes and sizes.
The announcement of Ice Cream Sandwich followed news of Android 3.1, which carries desirable features like resizable widgets in the application launcher. Android 3.1's trip over to Google TV will also carry with it the Android Marketplace and the usability of USB devices. At the keynote, Hugo Barra, director of Android product management, demoed the use of an XBox 360 controller with an Android game.
No official launch date has yet been announced for Ice Cream Sandwich, but Android 3.1 will be available to compatible devices as of today.
Oh ya one more thing, T-Mobile, AT&T and Verizon announced that it will be updating all devices to the new version of android until their 18 month birthday. So yes the mytouch will get Ice Cream Sandwich!!!!!!!!
Ice cream sandwich...
mark manning said:
....Oh ya one more thing, T-Mobile, AT&T and Verizon announced that it will be updating all devices to the new version if android until their 18 month birthday. So yes the mytouch will get Ice Cream Sandwich!!!!!!!!
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You mean untill the devices 18 month birthday? Hope so.
WoW... That is Great News!! I want an ice cream sandwich!!
I wonder how ice cream mysense will look or if it will resemble the doubleshot instead w/ 3d ui.
Actually the keynote said that new devices from here on out would be supported for 18 months... but Ice Cream Sandwhich CM would probably work on our phones.
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Cant wait
oquinones said:
Actually the keynote said that new devices from here on out would be supported for 18 months... but Ice Cream Sandwhich CM would probably work on our phones.
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So this device came out around novemeberish so we'll stop seeing "official" support around mid 2012ish. Well that's good to know at least, not really worried since we have XDA for the roms and other things.
Ice cream sandwich will have hardware exceleration right? Correct me if I'm wrong!
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cant wait this is gunna be so dope
Looks interesting
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rest assured, as soon as a leak for any device becomes available, you guys will have a nice pretty version of this for your Glaciers in no time flat ...
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So this device came out around novemeberish so we'll stop seeing "official" support around mid 2012ish. Well that's good to know at least, not really worried since we have XDA for the roms and other things.
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Unfortunately, as I believe someone else has already mentioned that is for devices moving forward and I would imagine will not apply to our phones. They have not even really set any guidelines as to how they will even go about ensuring updates for devices, it's just a group of carriers and device manufacturers that have said they will attempt to follow through on this promise. I'm hopeful, but there is still the same issue of custom UIs, which require the manufacturer / carrier to update their code, and I think we all know how well that has worked out so far.
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Unfortunately, as I believe someone else has already mentioned that is for devices moving forward and I would imagine will not apply to our phones. They have not even really set any guidelines as to how they will even go about ensuring updates for devices, it's just a group of carriers and device manufacturers that have said they will attempt to follow through on this promise. I'm hopeful, but there is still the same issue of custom UIs, which require the manufacturer / carrier to update their code, and I think we all know how well that has worked out so far.
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that's why we have the development forum we've all been enjoying a better iteration of gingerbread than tmobile/HTC/whoever could ever throw at us for 6 months or more
Ice Cream Sandwich looks promising!
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i think they should just drop the sandwich and call it Ice Cream!
though i do love ice cream sandwich..
gd6noob said:
i think they should just drop the sandwich and call it Ice Cream!
though i do love ice cream sandwich..
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Logo would look too much like Froyo...
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Unfortunately, as I believe someone else has already mentioned that is for devices moving forward and I would imagine will not apply to our phones. They have not even really set any guidelines as to how they will even go about ensuring updates for devices, it's just a group of carriers and device manufacturers that have said they will attempt to follow through on this promise. I'm hopeful, but there is still the same issue of custom UIs, which require the manufacturer / carrier to update their code, and I think we all know how well that has worked out so far.
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I agree, thankfully we have great devs!
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I hope something good comes out of this
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Yessss honeycomb for phones I doubt it will be official for this.phone since google recommends dual core for honeycomb, and this is pretty much honeycomb, but better
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I just ordered the eee pad from newegg...got the UPS tracking number today. Anyway...I would assume it would be fairly easy to upgrade to Ice Cream Sandwich when it comes out, hopefully by ASUS pushing it out, or by rooting and putting the ROM on yourself. Probably getting ahead of myself here, since 3.1 isn't even here yet, but I just don't want a tablet that has outdated software in 4 months.
Now, need to sell my OG iPad. Craigslist I guess, ebay fees have gotten outrageous.
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I just ordered the eee pad from newegg...got the UPS tracking number today. Anyway...I would assume it would be fairly easy to upgrade to Ice Cream Sandwich when it comes out, hopefully by ASUS pushing it out, or by rooting and putting the ROM on yourself. Probably getting ahead of myself here, since 3.1 isn't even here yet, but I just don't want a tablet that has outdated software in 4 months.
Now, need to sell my OG iPad. Craigslist I guess, ebay fees have gotten outrageous.
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I sold my ipad on eBay but that's only because my city isn't big enough so no one would buy it. Is "ice cream sandwich" referring to 3.1? If so, Asus already made an official announcement that the TF will get it in June
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Ice Cream Sandwich is the version after Honeycomb, so it will actually come after 3.1. It is supposed to get rid of the "fragmentation" issue with android and make it easier for developers. Shoot, I wonder if I get the HTC Evo 3D, if I will be able to get Ice Cream Sandwich on that down the road. It's supposed to work on both phones and tablets.
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I sold my ipad on eBay but that's only because my city isn't big enough so no one would buy it. Is "ice cream sandwich" referring to 3.1? If so, Asus already made an official announcement that the TF will get it in June
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3.1 got released what a week ago? Hold your horses kid.
Anyways Asus announced that they were working on 3.1 the day after 3.1 got released, they said expect it within a month.
So I really doubt icecream sandwhich will take 4 months.
I know I'm getting ahead of myself, but I was just more curious if ASUS was proactive on pushing updates out. Sounds like they are. I just don't want to have to purchase a new tablet in say 6-7 months if they decide not to upgrade this model.
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3.1 got released what a week ago? Hold your horses kid.
Anyways Asus announced that they were working on 3.1 the day after 3.1 got released, they said expect it within a month.
So I really doubt icecream sandwhich will take 4 months.
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If I'm not mistaken isn't icecream sandwich the phone verion of honeycomb?
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If I'm not mistaken isn't icecream sandwich the phone verion of honeycomb?
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No, Ice Cream Sandwich is the unification of tablet-Android and traditional phone-Android. It's meant to be used by both.
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If I'm not mistaken isn't icecream sandwich the phone verion of honeycomb?
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yea, this is my understanding as well. and it's version is 2.4 (after gingerbread, 2.3)
http://www.pcworld.com/article/216558/android_24_ice_cream_details_drip.html
it is meant to bring some honeycomb goodness into the phone version. so for the TF to get ice cream sandwich would be a downgrade.
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yea, this is my understanding as well. and it's version is 2.4 (after gingerbread, 2.3)
http://www.pcworld.com/article/216558/android_24_ice_cream_details_drip.html
it is meant to bring some honeycomb goodness into the phone version. so for the TF to get ice cream sandwich would be a downgrade.
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2.4 if it exists willvstill be gingerbread. Ice cream sandwich will most likely be 4.0 and will run on phones, tablets and google tv.
Ice Cream Sandwich, unlike Honeycomb, will be open source. So we'll definitely see it on the TF one way or another.
okay so most of you guys don't know what your talking about let me explain.
Phones: Gingerbread 2.3
GoogleTV: Custom Froyo 2.2
Tablets: Honeycomb 3.0.1/3.1.
3.1 is a honeycomb update that adds a few features and improvements.
Gingerbread 2.3 is the last version of the phone only android.
Ice Cream Sandwich, which will most likely be 4.0 but at least something greater than 3.1 combines Phones, GoogleTV, and Tablets all into one OS.
With Ice Cream Sandwich, all devices will be running the same version of android.
It will come out this holiday first and according to google most current gen devices will get it. There is no reason why the transformer won't get ICS this holiday.
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okay so most of you guys don't know what your talking about let me explain.
Phones: Gingerbread 2.3
GoogleTV: Custom Froyo 2.2
Tablets: Honeycomb 3.0.1/3.1.
3.1 is a honeycomb update that adds a few features and improvements.
Gingerbread 2.3 is the last version of the phone only android.
Ice Cream Sandwich, which will most likely be 4.0 but at least something greater than 3.1 combines Phones, GoogleTV, and Tablets all into one OS.
With Ice Cream Sandwich, all devices will be running the same version of android.
It will come out this holiday first and according to google most current gen devices will get it. There is no reason why the transformer won't get ICS this holiday.
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Thank you. I was beginning to lose faith in this thread. I don't think I have read so much misinformation in all of XDA. You beat me to the punch.
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okay so most of you guys don't know what your talking about let me explain.
Phones: Gingerbread 2.3
GoogleTV: Custom Froyo 2.2
Tablets: Honeycomb 3.0.1/3.1.
3.1 is a honeycomb update that adds a few features and improvements.
Gingerbread 2.3 is the last version of the phone only android.
Ice Cream Sandwich, which will most likely be 4.0 but at least something greater than 3.1 combines Phones, GoogleTV, and Tablets all into one OS.
With Ice Cream Sandwich, all devices will be running the same version of android.
It will come out this holiday first and according to google most current gen devices will get it. There is no reason why the transformer won't get ICS this holiday.
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I did some research and I guess I didn't know what I was talking about, but my thing was if it was going to be on a phone wouldn't it have a phone interface. Why would you want a phone interface on your tablet? I think they are going to accomplish this by having different interfaces on different LCD densities as shown here:
http://phandroid.com/2011/05/20/set...y-above-160-get-a-taste-of-gingerbread-video/
I am in no way an Android/coding expert but this is the only way that makes sense.
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I did some research and I guess I didn't know what I was talking about, but my thing was if it was going to be on a phone wouldn't it have a phone interface. Why would you want a phone interface on your tablet? I think they are going to accomplish this by having different interfaces on different LCD densities as shown here:
http://phandroid.com/2011/05/20/set...y-above-160-get-a-taste-of-gingerbread-video/
I am in no way an Android/coding expert but this is the only way that makes sense.
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With ICS the honeycomb UI is being redesigned for the phones.
On tablets ICS will probably look identical to honeycomb just like eclair through gingerbread didn't change much other than images.
But on phones, it'll be a complete redesign of the android UI taking the honeycomb holographic UI and bringing it over to phones.
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I did some research and I guess I didn't know what I was talking about, but my thing was if it was going to be on a phone wouldn't it have a phone interface.
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Two things to consider here:
1. The Launcher - this can be different across different devices if Google wish, because this is essentially just an application.
2. Fragment support - probably the biggest single addition to Honeycomb is the addition of fragments. Effectively this introduces a single consistent API for multi-paned applications (think Honeycombs Gmail etc). Essentially, an application can decide what fragments a particular device can display and adjust its UI accordingly, so there's no need for a tablet and phone version of a particular application.
Ice Cream Sandwich is effectively the unification of Honeycomb and Gingerbread effectively, and will allow the same OS to serve up a different UI and experience between different classes of device.
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Dave
This will presumably put android on a similar basis as Apple's IOS which is used on iphones and ipads
steftymo said:
This will presumably put android on a similar basis as Apple's IOS which is used on iphones and ipads
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Not exactly! If anything, it puts it ahead of iOS because it should allow for tablet apps to run on a phone, and vice versa.
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Dave
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Ice Cream Sandwich is effectively the unification of Honeycomb and Gingerbread effectively, and will allow the same OS to serve up a different UI and experience between different classes of device.
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True, and you can see now on honeycomb that if you change the LCD density (to show a more dense screen such as a phone) the Gingerbread Interface because default on a reboot.
the biggest thing i've seen and this is what makes it better then the ios is the fact that games that are ment for a phone will properly scale for tablets where as games that are on the iphone that aren't ment for the ipad look grainy at the very least so this will give a lot more freedom when coming to cross platforming
Dead thread stay dead!
What for?
Ice Cream Sandwich of course!
Release date is Q4 this year from Google.
Anyone know if it will work on our G2x's? It is 'supposed' to run on 'all' platforms!
Let the discussion begin!
DB
We still waiting for a finished gingerbread
I dont even see ice cream sandwich in my future with this phone
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Bored, are we? Why speculate on something that may or may not see the light of day for the G2x - I doubt the phone will still be in use when Android 10000.9 hits.
Gingerbread just hit and its not even a final release. Lets get GB 100% before we start *****ing and complaining about it not being able to boil water and pleasure the hamsters.
...on another note, I still await the day Android has half the media codex as Windows Mobile. I miss CorePlayer. These crappy media players for Android are a real let down.
Im actually pretty sure that Icecream sandwich will come to our phone through CyanogenMod 8. CM7 was supported on this phone pretty much from the get go and I doubt they would drop support so quickly.
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Im actually pretty sure that Icecream sandwich will come to our phone through CyanogenMod 8. CM7 was supported on this phone pretty much from the get go and I doubt they would drop support so quickly.
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I am sure! I have GB running, and it seems to be running well. No problems installing, no other problems found so far.
Wish I could Skype with the cameras, but that is about all of my annoyances. Very happy with the phone, very happy with the GB OS. There maybe an update that makes it even better, but still...... ICS seems to be in our future!
DB
dabajan said:
I am sure! I have GB running, and it seems to be running well. No problems installing, no other problems found so far.
Wish I could Skype with the cameras, but that is about all of my annoyances. Very happy with the phone, very happy with the GB OS. There maybe an update that makes it even better, but still...... ICS seems to be in our future!
DB
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Dude, they haven't even released an official version of the Gingerbread and you're thinking of ICS? Let's see how the Gingerbread will go down and then maybe think about ICS.
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We have such little ram, I can't imagine it would be a pleasant experience.
You don't wanna know where this was sent from.
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We have such little ram, I can't imagine it would be a pleasant experience.
You don't wanna know where this was sent from.
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yep, I'm always thinking about what a complete waste this phone really is. Released with froyo, no dual core support drivers are crap and when/if we do ever get a fully functional gingerbread it will be at the end of its cycle and never really get its dual core support. Lg purposely gimped it with 512mb ram. A real shame. I fully expect to not ever see an official ICS release. All these dual cores being released with gingerbread ram requirements are going to be put to waste.
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After this am sticking to the nexus line unless LG makes it then ile run away to samsung or Htc
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yep, I'm always thinking about what a complete waste this phone really is. Released with froyo, no dual core support drivers are crap and when/if we do ever get a fully functional gingerbread it will be at the end of its cycle and never really get its dual core support. Lg purposely gimped it with 512mb ram. A real shame. I fully expect to not ever see an official ICS release. All these dual cores being released with gingerbread ram requirements are going to be put to waste.
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I honestly think 512mb of ram isn't a requirement for ICS. If that's the case then the Nexus S and Nexus One (which both have 512mb of ram) will be left in the past and I don't think Google is ready to stop yet. I foresee at least one more major update for the Nexus S (ICS) and then maybe Google will have more strict requirements. I think Google is more big on software rather than hardware. As for the G2x receiving ICS officially that will most likely not happen, especially since the G2x didn't make the expected sales LG were going for. Remember majority equals priority for these big name company's and majority don't own a G2x. Majority switched to the Sensation or whatever even exchange they can get. This will be my first and last LG phone unless the next line of Nexus is with LG (I hope its either HTC or Samsung for Super Amoled screen).
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i talked to a guy today, who said he overheard someone on an airplane bound for zimbabwe, that he heard from his girlfriend in argentina that ice cream sandwhich would be out by end of sept. for the g2x. woohoo!!!!!!!!!!!
I dunno where you get your info from, but they are wrong! I was told by Santa Clause, who heard it from the Easter Bunny, who won the info in a bet with a leprechaun that was running away from a unicorn while chasing the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, that Ice Cream Sandwich won't be available on the G2X until at least winter.
I ate an ice cream sandwich today...way better than gingerbread.
Anyone have an inkling on the possibilities of Ice Cream Sandwich for our Gtablet?
I guess anything is possible. Nobody thought we'd have working Honeycomb as of 3 months ago...
Damn, us gtab users are demanding. Ice scream sandwich isn't even out yet, and there's already a demand for it.
Doubt it
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Like everything else for the G Tab it will be a hack since Viewsonic told its G Tab fan base to go ef themselves.
Ice cream sandwich will be open source unlike honeycomb. There might be possible that NVidia also can release drivers because source availability. If things go in the mentioned way then we can expect Ice cream sandwich. But ICS will be merge of GB and HC, not quite sure how much value add it will provide to the end users, but for Google and Vendors it great leap because of one version works for all. Lets wait and see...
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Ice cream sandwich will be open source unlike honeycomb. There might be possible that NVidia also can release drivers because source availability. If things go in the mentioned way then we can expect Ice cream sandwich. But ICS will be merge of GB and HC, not quite sure how much value add it will provide to the end users, but for Google and Vendors it great leap because of one version works for all. Lets wait and see...
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I read someplace that HC will be open sourced when Ice cream Sandwich is released
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I read someplace that HC will be open sourced when Ice cream Sandwich is released
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I guess Google held back release of HC code because of fear of the two separate version of Android code in the market. Google wants no confusion, and so decided to release ICS to the communities and vendors. Again, it all depends ont he company's decision at that moment. Lets wait and see...
Hope for the best always
gTablet done, IMHO
No signs of any life re extending gTablet's life by manufacturer. And in today's aftermarket $MMI conference call another two tablets coming by year's end. No details other than 4LTE. A crowded field, all playing catch-up to the iPad 1/2. If the gTablet gets any further enhancements it will only due to the great work of the XDA developers here.
So, what is all the hype over the iphone about?
Apart from the app store and the retina display, what does it have over say an orange san francisco/ZTE Blade
Perhaps i am missing something but to me it seems more like a fashion accessory than a phone
Anyway, hopefully someone can clear this up for me
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RDS
In before the flame war.
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In before the flame war.
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Lol i dont mean offence to anyone, this is an honest question
RDS
I don't think the iphone is like a magical device from outer space, the problem is that there is no real competitor when it comes to user experience. So all the hype is mostly pointed toward the iphone since the other phones fail.
Ex iPhone: Your neighbor downloads an app, he recommends it to you. You download it and the app runs flawlessly on your phone and you really enjoyed it.
Ex Android: Your neighbor downloads an app, he recommends it to you. You download it and the app freezes your phone and you have to reboot every time you try to run the app and you get really frustrated.
I own an android phone and I enjoyed it, but I've been through the waters of android fragmentation and is not a good experience! My next phone is a WP7.
What I'm trying to say is that I think all the hype is because of the excellent user experience on the iPhone.
i suppose this makes sense as with iOS, everything works straight out of the box whereas that is not really possible with Android as it is designed to work with so many different devices rather than the three aplle ones which are very similar anyway
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I believe its just a Hype.
Dont think they are better or wors than a regulair smartphone.
Alexander243 said:
I don't think the iphone is like a magical device from outer space, the problem is that there is no real competitor when it comes to user experience. So all the hype is mostly pointed toward the iphone since the other phones fail.
Ex iPhone: Your neighbor downloads an app, he recommends it to you. You download it and the app runs flawlessly on your phone and you really enjoyed it.
Ex Android: Your neighbor downloads an app, he recommends it to you. You download it and the app freezes your phone and you have to reboot every time you try to run the app and you get really frustrated.
I own an android phone and I enjoyed it, but I've been through the waters of android fragmentation and is not a good experience! My next phone is a WP7.
What I'm trying to say is that I think all the hype is because of the excellent user experience on the iPhone.
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i guess this is where ice cream sandwich comes in. in the words of gizmodo:
The next Android phone version Ice Cream Sandwich has one clear motive: to put a stop to having dozens (ok, under ten) different versions of Android on devices. Yes, fragmentation. Not just for phones, it's Google's "most ambitious" update yet.
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i guess this is where ice cream sandwich comes in. in the words of gizmodo:
The next Android phone version Ice Cream Sandwich has one clear motive: to put a stop to having dozens (ok, under ten) different versions of Android on devices. Yes, fragmentation. Not just for phones, it's Google's "most ambitious" update yet.
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I really hope Ice Cream Sandwich puts a stop to fragmentation, but until now I stick to the present.
I can't wait to see how Ice Cream Sandwich will do in the market. Hopefully it will be the one OS to rule them all (Android Phones)