Has anyone installed this CPU temp & usage widget only to notice your CPU usage gets stuck @99% usage? How accurate is the info in this widget? Is it because I have no task killer on my device & there may be several processes running in the background? I notice the CPU usage is down under 50% after a restart or boot up. Can someone add any enlightening information please.
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if you are referring to Temp+CPU yes I have been using it for ages. its not what is making you CPU go high, unless you have refresh for it set really fast. mine is currently set for 1sec
Hi Bro, i recommend Elixir app, that what are you looking.
it wouldnt let me edit the post.
also if you refresh is set to a really long interval, it will appear to be stuck at 99% of its 99% at the polling time, and will say that for the duration its set at.
no need for a task killer. i personally use startup manager (be careful as the freebie is a trial and if it expires you cant undo what it changed easily) to prevent things i rarely/never use from starting up. a good writeup on why to not use task killers specific to android. i used *nix for years so i didnt even bother looking for a task killer. in nix within a day your ram is full and always stays full. its managed beautifully and makes multitasking a breeze
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
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Using ATM and even if I check an app to not be affected when it cycles to kill, it is still stopped when I use the auto-kill widget. For example, if I'm on a web page before I kill, I'm not there when I bring that browser back up after kill. My mail through Touchdown, also stops checking if I manually kill apps (even though it's included in the "do not kill" list). Is there a better Task Killer that will leave my apps alone if I tell it to?
Using autokill too but it gives significantly less RAM to me that ATM.
taskiller full, it have an ignore list
advanced task killer has an ignore list too and works good for me
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advanced task killer has an ignore list too and works good for me
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+1 for advanced task killer.
Keep in mind, tho, android system is still going to kill whatever it wants, whenever it feels necessary (unless the app in question is "locked in memory").
+1 for TaskKiller, but sometimes it uses up 16% or more of the battery in standby. Its not set to do anything on standby and status bar notification and widget are off.
advanced task manager works for me
You have to set a different ignore list for ATM's autokill, which is what the widget is. That's so you can manually kill more apps than are killed automatically. In ATM, choose menu, preferences, applications, and scroll to the auto-end excluded list. Also, set auto-end frequency to 30 mins. Then you will be amazed at how easily it keeps your phone tidy.
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I use Taskpanel, my favorite feature is it autokills programs in the autokill list when the screen shuts off.
You best bet is to put your auto killers on the auto kill list.
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You best bet is to put your auto killers on the auto kill list.
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If you're really that concerned about memory use something like AutoKiller with aggressive settings.
System Panel seems awesome... I'm using this now.
your best bet is to not use a task killer. It is not needed for android.
lightforce said:
advanced task manager works for me
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advanced task manager works for me too.
myplague said:
your best bet is to not use a task killer. It is not needed for android.
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+1! My phone has been so much faster and better battery since ditching a task manager!
Zenoran said:
System Panel seems awesome... I'm using this now.
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Just found System Panel also has a convenient "Kill All" X button. Pretty cool.
I've tried all of them; Taskpanel is the absolute winner, especially at battery saving! It turbos your battery life, in my case about 40%; great/ musthave app!!
Switched to Advanced task manager. It allows itself to get killed
TaskKiller was taking up upto 20% of my standby battery!!!
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Switched to Advanced task manager. It allows itself to get killed
TaskKiller was taking up upto 20% of my standby battery!!!
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YUP i have purchased Taskiller and Advanced Task manager...Ran both for many weeks with my G1 and Nexus...... Findings are
Big Difference here....Taskiller eats my battery + notice some kind of memory leak where the ram will always be getting lower and lower over a slow 24 to 48 hours.....
Advanced task killer uses no extra battery ... i just check the program a few times a day and when i get done i hit end all and it kills itself...big plus here for saving MUCHO battery...its the BEEEZ neeezzzz for real =-D ........the biggest reason for having one for me is when i reboot i have so many apps that run that dont need to ..so this works well using it like this, along with Juice defender my battery last sooooooo much longer..... for real beez neez i tell ya
Been using taskpanel for like 3-4 months on my ADP1 and now my N1 so I highly recommend it.
What do you guys think? Should we still use AutoKiller with Fresh Toast? I've tried it with installed and without and can't see much of a difference. Is there any pros/cons? If you do like it, what do you think is the best settings for very stable settings with good battery life? Speed is not the most important if it kills my battery.
I do not personally like Autokiller.
Gave me alot of browser closes, and seemed to kill apps that I didnt want killed at the time.
Im much better off with the compcache, and just using my taks killer (ATK) as needed. With the overclocking and JIT, my performance issues are slim to none.
So you use ATK, but not automatically? Ive read all articles that say not to use a task killer, but I was using Quick Sytem Info and saw that my memory was down to 30mb and I was very laggy. I used the task killer built in and it would speed everything up. I just don't like the idea of a task killer always working. Any other input?
Yeah, I just set up the widget on my home screen.
There are certain apps I put on the ignore list, just a few though.
I don't believe that killing apps and then making them re-open is a big battery drain. Or if it is, Id rather have a slightly higher energy consumption than my phone run like crap all the time.
I mean just on boot, there are <15 apps open... doing nothing. After a fresh boot my avaialble memory drops to >40MB. After a good kill, Im back into the 70s.
The only thing I have on my ignore list are things like "KeepScreen", Music player (mixzing), pandora, SetCPU, and ShaketoWake(my alarm clock)
everything else gets killed.
Like... after browsing the web for a while, I like to kill the browser because its a HUGE memory hog. Yes it takes an additional 3 seconds to open the browser when I use it... say... 2-3 hours later but that's not a big deal to me. The increased performance and no lag when I send a text message is.
Make sense? Sorry, I'm on pain killers right now so I'm a bit loopy haha.
I have been doing some research on weather task managers are needed on andorid and weather they do more harm than good. And i have come across these articles which i found interesting :
Google and cyanogen saying they are useless and do more harm than good:
http://androinica.com/2010/05/07/go...-imply-task-killermanager-apps-are-pointless/
More articles:
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
http://androidspin.com/2010/05/25/why-you-dont-need-a-task-killer-app-with-android/
Some threads with user experiences:
http://forum.androidcentral.com/motorola-droid/5558-do-you-need-task-manager-installed.html
http://android.modaco.com/content/t...854/android-2-1-task-manager-is-one-required/
http://androidforums.com/samsung-i7500/43040-task-killer-apps-not-needed.html
http://androidforums.com/motorola-droid/18334-task-killer-apps-truth.html
I only use task killers to end apps that auto update in the background when i dont want them to (e.g. twitter apps) and leave everything else running. The only other time i use them is to kill non responding apps and my battery and performance are fine. what do you guys think?
I agree, but what I really miss from WM is a good task switcher. It would be nice to see my running apps in the notification window so I can switch. I've briefly looked for something similar but haven't found anything like the above yet.
I also really miss LMT for using dual gestures to bring up task switcher and also to perform whatever I assigned to it...
That's the only real reason I still use the task killer/manager is to just switch apps.
if you want a lil performance boost with out a task killer [email protected] auto memory manager it actually changes the way android manages it memory and running programs been using it since my g1 its one of my must have apps
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I agree, but what I really miss from WM is a good task switcher. It would be nice to see my running apps in the notification window so I can switch. I've briefly looked for something similar but haven't found anything like the above yet.
I also really miss LMT for using dual gestures to bring up task switcher and also to perform whatever I assigned to it...
That's the only real reason I still use the task killer/manager is to just switch apps.
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I used to do that too until i found these apps on the market
TaskOs - quick and easy task switcher (set as home then choose your home app again)
Quick Desk beta (try it out, hard to explain, awesome though)
Task Switcher - extended version of holding down home button
Multitask Manager - ios4 style task switcher/manager
These are the best ones imo
noellenchris said:
I agree, but what I really miss from WM is a good task switcher. It would be nice to see my running apps in the notification window so I can switch. I've briefly looked for something similar but haven't found anything like the above yet.
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You probably already know, but just in case. When you hold down the home button, a display a list of your last apps used will pop-up. I use it to switch between open apps and even apps that are not still open.
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You probably already know, but just in case. When you hold down the home button, a display a list of your last apps used will pop-up. I use it to switch between open apps and even apps that are not still open.
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Matc's doesnt include this, it's found in cm based roms
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Ah crap never mind forgot that came with 2.1 I believe my mistake sorry
Found something worth noting
noellenchris said:
I agree, but what I really miss from WM is a good task switcher. It would be nice to see my running apps in the notification window so I can switch. I've briefly looked for something similar but haven't found anything like the above yet.
I also really miss LMT for using dual gestures to bring up task switcher and also to perform whatever I assigned to it...
That's the only real reason I still use the task killer/manager is to just switch apps.
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I actually noticed a task switcher that is built-in to the new sense rom on the HTC Desire Z. It's the same as holding on the home button, but it's in the notification window. I noticed it in the "A Closer Look" video at 5:28 minutes. I've been looking for something similar, but can't find any yet.
I've tested them all but always revert back to atk, not for performance but for keeping battery usage low, testing now with nothing running in regards to task managers will report battery usage,
Hd2 with Android I think is more than powerfully enough, don't need to kill tasks for any reason apart from improving battery life,
Do you agree?
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very beautifull app switcher and task killer is <itching thumb> like palm pre. try it...
I havent used a task killer since mvp77 brought it to my attention in the android general section!
I use autokiller which allows me to tell android how aggressive I want it to be other than that I dont like task killers.
as far as battery life I dont really think task killers improve battery life. Though Ive gotten to the point where battery life is so long I am comfortable.
I set my twitter update intervals at like every 2 hours.
Widgets like the engadget ones that constantly scroll drive battery life down.
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I havent used a task killer since mvp77 brought it to my attention in the android general section!
I use autokiller which allows me to tell android how aggressive I want it to be other than that I dont like task killers.
as far as battery life I dont really think task killers improve battery life. Though Ive gotten to the point where battery life is so long I am comfortable.
I set my twitter update intervals at like every 2 hours.
Widgets like the engadget ones that constantly scroll drive battery life down.
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I've started using autokiller myself.
I'm using Widget Locker. Nice app. However it's annoying me because its process not running in the back ground (like system files) but instead running like an app. So everytimes I go to "task manager" to clear running app in the background. I can't just clear all to save my baterry. It will close Widget Locker (i have manually close one by one app). Is there a way to integrate it to system files so I won't see it in the "Task Manager".
Hope you understand what i'm trying to say
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Try an app from the market called Watchdog. It is a really good app that lets you real time see processes and cpu usage and it will alert you on thresh holds of over usage. You can individually kill those processes which may be inadvertently over using your phone and eating up your battery. Task killers just blanketly kill apps and processes. Some of which restart right back up chewing up you cpu and also wasting precious battery. So doing this continuously will just overwork and kill your usage time on the phone. If you precisely pinpoint the app causing issues you can leave the phone to manage the application as it is designed to do and also you may notice other regularly used apps opening quicker and more responsive. Give it a try and keep us posted.
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sweetboy02125 said:
I'm using Widget Locker. Nice app. However it's annoying me because its process not running in the back ground (like system files) but instead running like an app. So everytimes I go to "task manager" to clear running app in the background. I can't just clear all to save my baterry. It will close Widget Locker (i have manually close one by one app). Is there a way to integrate it to system files so I won't see it in the "Task Manager".
Hope you understand what i'm trying to say
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I'm using Go Launcher. It has a built in task manager that also allows you to lock app so you don't close them by accident. Have my Widget Locker app Locked. Hope this helps also. And I think this should be in the Q&A Section.
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Try an app from the market called Watchdog. It is a really good app that lets you real time see processes and cpu usage and it will alert you on thresh holds of over usage. You can individually kill those processes which may be inadvertently over using your phone and eating up your battery. Task killers just blanketly kill apps and processes. Some of which restart right back up chewing up you cpu and also wasting precious battery. So doing this continuously will just overwork and kill your usage time on the phone. If you precisely pinpoint the app causing issues you can leave the phone to manage the application as it is designed to do and also you may notice other regularly used apps opening quicker and more responsive. Give it a try and keep us posted.
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+1, well said.
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I think this should be in the Q&A Section.
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I think it's in the right section (Themes & Apps).
Brand new to Android coming from iOS. Battery life is an issue. Reading up. Ran Carat and found the Battery Percentage App I installed was identified as a Battery Hog itself! Going to run a couple more days before using something like JuiceDefender Plus.
How essential are these processes?
GO SMS Pro (does it always have to be running? should I dump it and go back to stock messaging app?)
HTS Sense (assume no way around this except custom ROM)
TegraZone
Google Services
Media
Maps (Haven't even run G Maps once yet!)
Swiftkey 3 - wow, takes up 19MB. Hope it is really THAT much better than HTC keyboard?
And odd thing is that in many cases, I can't see how you close the app, let alone, REALLY close it. Of course this was no different than iOS, when you closed it, it still was in memory in the background so it would resume when you brought it back up. On iPhone you press the Home button to close it and go back to the spring board. Same here? I know - dumb newbie question.
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Brand new to Android coming from iOS. Battery life is an issue. Reading up. Ran Carat and found the Battery Percentage App I installed was identified as a Battery Hog itself! Going to run a couple more days before using something like JuiceDefender Plus.
How essential are these processes?
GO SMS Pro (does it always have to be running? should I dump it and go back to stock messaging app?)
HTS Sense (assume no way around this except custom ROM)
TegraZone
Google Services
Media
Maps (Haven't even run G Maps once yet!)
Swiftkey 3 - wow, takes up 19MB. Hope it is really THAT much better than HTC keyboard?
And odd thing is that in many cases, I can't see how you close the app, let alone, REALLY close it. Of course this was no different than iOS, when you closed it, it still was in memory in the background so it would resume when you brought it back up. On iPhone you press the Home button to close it and go back to the spring board. Same here? I know - dumb newbie question.
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It's not a dumb question at all. Android uses a different system to manage memory, and does a good job. To get better battery life, look at your settings and turn off automatic syncing, gps, location services, etc. The problem is that not all the time you will have wifi/data. The phone constantly is looking for data and that uses battery as well. You can kill the maps in the task manager, but it might restart itself when you reboot and update the app, and there's no way around this unless you root your phone.
To find the task manager, go into the apps menu, and look for Task Manager. You can completely kill apps from there, but I wouldn't worry about it too much, android does a good job most of the time. For those apps that are stubborn it's good for.
If you don't want to root, try going into settings and then apps. You can disable apps that you might consider "bloatware" such as AT&T apps and youtube, etc.
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Brand new to Android coming from iOS. Battery life is an issue. Reading up. Ran Carat and found the Battery Percentage App I installed was identified as a Battery Hog itself! Going to run a couple more days before using something like JuiceDefender Plus.
How essential are these processes?
GO SMS Pro (does it always have to be running? should I dump it and go back to stock messaging app?)
HTS Sense (assume no way around this except custom ROM)
TegraZone
Google Services
Media
Maps (Haven't even run G Maps once yet!)
Swiftkey 3 - wow, takes up 19MB. Hope it is really THAT much better than HTC keyboard?
And odd thing is that in many cases, I can't see how you close the app, let alone, REALLY close it. Of course this was no different than iOS, when you closed it, it still was in memory in the background so it would resume when you brought it back up. On iPhone you press the Home button to close it and go back to the spring board. Same here? I know - dumb newbie question.
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Actually on iPhone you don't just press home, you double click home hold the app when a minus comes up then you close it.wow I never knew how many clueless people could be with an iphone..anyways for the HTC one x you press the capacitive button to the right of home then you swipe up on the app to quit it.Now If you want to permanately remove bloatware/other processes, you have to root the phone ...although juice defender ult is a great app..the one x battery is great for me..even when I was on stock..maybe turn off fastboot( in power settings) turn off all the sound, Screen brightness low, touch settings(vibrate when keys touched..etc).check push notifications manually.. believe me android is more productive in battery life then IOS. Hope I helped. A thanks would be appreciated
Ya, I knew how to close apps in background on iPhone, just didn't explain it right. To bad there's nothing close to Intelliscreen X for Android. Really miss the collapsible notification widgets on the lockscreen. Widgetlock with Tesla Unread Counter is a step in the right direction. I guess with such a small screen the iPhone developers have always been forced to get creative with how the apps use screen space. Those guys at Intelliborn really pulled off an amazing app. Too bad none of the people that have not jailbroken their iPhones can use it.
Battery life is much much better now (still in first 24 hours of usage). Not sure what I had running, but it could have been the Battery Percentage App I downloaded that Carat listed on the Battery "Hogs" list that I uninstalled. Ironic a battery meter would cause much more battery drain. Unfortunately I read than on HTC they have no option to switch to % where other phone do. Haven't used JuiceDefender Plus yet, but maybe that will give me the info. The battery icon is so worthless for knowing "really" how much you have left except for a general estimate.
Oh and THANKS on the swipe up thing. Is there a "must know" guide for "power users" coming over from iOS to Android/Jelly Bean that would tell me more of this stuff. I never would have guessed it and was flip through the apps wondering "how the hell to I close all these?" Still in my first day though. Man this phone is fast.
Well, battery was doing great then I wasn't doing much with phone and could feel it get hot. I watched Battery go from 85-65 in about 30 minutes! I went into Carat and saw high CPU, but you can't see from Carat what is eating the CPU so downloaded Android Task Manager, great app. Used realtime processes report. Of course #1 CPU eater is the Process Monitor itself (only when you are looking at it). But I was seeing the PowerAmp "Service", "Music Enhancer" and "Sound Set" and "HD Widgets" all very active in CPU usage. Wasn't using PowerAmp or HD Widgets. Haven't even used any of the widgets!
Is there something other than carat that will give me an average CPU usage say in the last hour of all the background services and processes so I can determine what's eating the battery in a short period of time - or am I stuck just looking at realtime process info?
It looks like from a brief search PowerAmp service is "normal". I have a HUGE MP3 library of 3000 songs I just synced yesterday - is gradually processing them or something? I also downloaded Neutron Player. Both have excellent sound quality but the Neutron interface is geeky - PowerAmp more like iTunes but I'm an Audiophile so if I have to go to Neutron to avoid this PowerAmp "Service" from eating my battery from time to time I will.
I've been using the app button and the swipe up a lot now to clear out apps - but like iPhone I'm guessing in most cases it doesn't make a huge difference as Android, like iOS sort of sleeps the background apps anyway. Or should I be in the habit of checking and closing background apps not being used? It seems the "services" are what can cause the issue more (other than foreground apps). Still learning. Bare with me.
I'm not a gamer. If there was a setting (without needing root/custom ROM) to underclock the CPU a little, I'd probably take that for more batter life. Seems on the One X+ I'm guessing much of the extra battery capacity is offset by the higher clocked processor! It's probably just a matter of me finishing getting the phone configured the way I want, stop adding apps, then debug the CPU/Battery hogs and uninstall, change settings, or start using JuiceDefender. My guess.
Feel like such a newbie. Found the built-in Android Battery Usage screen. Shows Android Task Manager as using it the most! But I was having the hot temp/battery drain before I even installed that! Second is the Android OS. Third is WL Theme Viewer. That makes sense as that WidgetLock Theme view app created a big database. But the battery drain continued after it was done! Then Sounds Set, HTC Sence, Google Play Store, Carat, HD Widgets. What the hell is HD Widgets doing? So no jump out culprits - except Sound Set seems suspicious!