What phone do developers make ROMS and kernels for? I am thinking of selling my Atrix to get the phone that does get most developed on.
I wish I had the correct info for you, but I do know the Evo has tons of development on it. Pretty much anything you can tweak or port over has been done or in progress.
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I want to say the Nexus One.
Evo is definitely up there.
Incredible is starting to slow down but still has decent activity
I'm sure there's more similar.
HD2 if you want to go that route, lot of stuff with that going on.
+1 for nexus one (that has sense roms also)
+1 for HD2 that has meebo, wm6.5, wp7, and android 2.1,2.2,2.3 roms)
and in the future i´m sure that the nexus S is going to be the most developed with the touchWiz 4.0 environment available for it (ported from galaxy 2)
The HTC Glacier (Mytouch 4G) has a TON going on in development right now. We just had some of the evo devs jump over, and they already started porting their stuff..
seems like the nexus S is developed for pretty well. I'm on a G2 and there's a moderate amount of roms.
The newer version the better
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Vote here for the HTC Sensation to get Cyanogen Mod Support:
http://twtpoll.com/r/hsrsfj
Please share this poll. If we can get the dev to get a HTC Sensation we'll get CM on the phone.
If the bootloader is locked as tightly as the Incredible S, then it's going to take a lot more than a dev with a phone to get CM on your device...
Going to take jesus christ and a lot of redbull.
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Yes, if, but we don't know that yet. Look at the Thunderbolt. It can be done.
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Looks like Sensation pretty much won the poll already.
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/forum/169-htc-desire-hd-htc-inspire/
So why is this so hard? If it's already out for the DHD, the chances are it will make it to the Sensation.
The encryption methods on Thunderbolt, Incredible S & Sensation are heavier than on the Desire HD first of all.
A hack for the Thunderbolt was found based on a downgraded leaked firmware that could be flashed as a means to achieve S-OFF. A similar approach was tried already for the Incredible S, but so far it has failed.
I suggest poking around the Incredible S Development forum if you want to stay updated on the prospects of hacking the Sensation too.
http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/59403297395716097
@bradaparker we're gonna support the G2X. not sure about sensation yet because of the signed boot crap.
Got my vote
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nomisunrider said:
http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/59403297395716097
@bradaparker we're gonna support the G2X. not sure about sensation yet because of the signed boot crap.
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That's Cyanogen himself, he doesn't like Sense UI. But others members will support Sensation.
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I don't know if it is just me but I'll buy sensation for sense 3.0 so having cyanogen doesn't makes "sense" imho. Cyanogen can be seen installed on low end devices and having it on sensation will make it look the same as low end devices. If I want cyanogen, I'll buy another one. Maybe desire or something cheaper. Just my opinion. No offense.
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I don't know if it is just me but I'll buy sensation for sense 3.0 so having cyanogen doesn't makes "sense" imho. Cyanogen can be seen installed on low end devices and having it on sensation will make it look the same as low end devices. If I want cyanogen, I'll buy another one. Maybe desire or something cheaper. Just my opinion. No offense.
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You're right, I buy HTC Sensation for Sense UI 3.0. But for people that like AOSP CM7 will give them choices.
PS Look like Samsux troll are out in force.... hahahaha funny as hell.
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I don't know if it is just me but I'll buy sensation for sense 3.0 so having cyanogen doesn't makes "sense" imho. Cyanogen can be seen installed on low end devices and having it on sensation will make it look the same as low end devices. If I want cyanogen, I'll buy another one. Maybe desire or something cheaper. Just my opinion. No offense.
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Well, if you like Sense 3.0, then leave it on! No one forces you to install CM! I like the possibilities of individualising your phone with Cyanogen Mod!
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I don't know if it is just me but I'll buy sensation for sense 3.0 so having cyanogen doesn't makes "sense" imho. Cyanogen can be seen installed on low end devices and having it on sensation will make it look the same as low end devices. If I want cyanogen, I'll buy another one. Maybe desire or something cheaper. Just my opinion. No offense.
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Ehh everyone is different. Personally i feel sense, even in its old version, was pretty bloated. Now in its crazy 3d implementation it is even more so. I buy a device based on if its supported by cm7.
Its from my damn phone!!!
Damn, this is almost a deal breaker. I was really looking forward to this being supported by Cyanogen. Not that they still wont. I own a N1 and been running Cyan from the begining. I am not looking forward to an LG phone. It scares me. HTC builds quality phones. I hear a bunch of things about the Gx2 but if its cyan software, it may solve some issues. This phone looks so damn good tho
i wanna CM on HTC Sensation too.
how its going ?
Ask charansingh, he's on the board too.
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I'd like CM on it too. Love the sensations hardware but sense looks a bit dated and bloated to me now.
I have tried most of the UI's. Sense, by far, is the heaviest and most restrictive one. From the standard 16 apps 4x4 screen configuration to the inability to adjust certain widgets to smaller sizes. Therefore, Sense is gone for me anyway. I would welcome the mod support if I get one.
my Sensation is crying for the CM
any news ?
Hey all,
Seeing that Sense 3.0 got ported to the Incredible got me thinking... what happened to the Sense port for Galaxy S?
(I'm not a dev, just wondering/spiking community interest)
Not going to happen. Or at least I doubt it. It would be cool. I'm running it on my inspire and would love it on my captivate
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Why would you want to?
IMHO, it goes like this:
CyanogenMod > Stock Android > TouchWiz > Sense > Moto/Sony/Etc
I'm not counting launchers here, because that's such a simple thing to change, but as far as all the other customizations go, that's how I see it.
CM7 is already being worked on quite fervently, and new Samsung versions keep rolling out, why spend all the time and effort to get one specific version working?
Developers probably realized it was easier to just buy an HTC device with their working GPS and lag-free file system. lol
i might pick up one of those things soon (i'm feeling serious G.A.S!!!), so i just want to know if this phone will see a lot of roms, considering the camera chip... if you think it'll slow down the development significantly, please leave a reply and explain yourself, i'll be very grateful. i'm coming from a desire z, is there anything i have to take into further consideration before buying ? cheers
For sense roms.. no. For AOSP roms, it's possible. Maybe in AOSP roms the ImageSense chip will just be ignored/disabled. I don't see it as a huge hinderance though, just a camera hinderance.
Debateable question. Currently loads of older phones still haven't got fully working camera on asop roms. It will be a 'long' time before the one s has a fully functioning cm9. For the while the no sense roms are sweet. The only difference is the settings....and a few other bits.development will kick in.there are devs working on it. As for the one s...its a beautiful piece of phone. Dont be put off by your asop wish...I love cm...but be honest the no sense roms are great till it arrives. If not Lee Droid is coming soon..so tweaks ahoy..
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It's not because i need an aosp rom, i'm more concerned about longterm-upgrade-ability. If HTC decides to not include the imagechip technology in newer iterations of sense, would it be left behind?
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Well they just developed it... I don't see them already leaving it behind especially with as beautiful the pictures turn out with if. I used it through the weekend and I'm very impressed with the quality. It my be a bit before it gets worked into rom development, but I don't think they are gonna drop it any time soon
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We need to buy about 2 phones for testing some custom android apps we've built.
Does anyone have suggestions on what the best phones for testing would be?
I was thinking something with HTC sense on it, and something with stock android on it. Both need to be able to s-off and root easily.
erm... the google dev phones (nexus) ?? Personally I use galaxy nexus most for this kinda thing
For any kind of software testing, you need to know how it will function on both the latest and greatest devices, as well as the oldest hardware you intend to support.
I'd think for the price of two top-tier 2012 phones, you could buy 1 top of the line current phone, one from last year, and one from 2 years ago. Possibly also include Sense, Touchwiz and vanilla android.
Something running GB and something running ICS/JB. Many phones are still on GB so a used device running GB would be useful to test on.
Test it on emulator first?
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Test it on emulator first?
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Yes for sure it's the first thing to do,but not always if it works on emulator it will work on specific phone
Nexus one and galaxy nexus. Then you've got gingerbread and jellybean covered
If you need a newer phone for testing , the Galaxy Nexus is an obvious choice .
If you need a older phone ( old hardware ) to test yous apps , have a look at Nexus 1 or HTC Desire , it can run flawlessly 2.2 , 2.3 and 4.0.4 . I have a Desire on ICS ( BCM ) so I can tell .
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We need to buy about 2 phones for testing some custom android apps we've built.
Does anyone have suggestions on what the best phones for testing would be?
I was thinking something with HTC sense on it, and something with stock android on it. Both need to be able to s-off and root easily.
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HD2? ROMs range from Android 2.1-4.1 (AOSP, AOKP, CM), Sense 2.0-3.5 (one discontinued Sense 4 alpha), TouchWiz + GB, Xperia Arc GB, MIUI etc. It's also got similar specs to a low-range phone nowadays so that would be a good choice I think. In addition, a One X probably.
HTC One X?!
Samsung galaxy nexus
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Galaxy nexus its official hands down
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It seems it is indeed no contest there.
Does the Galaxy Nexus come with Sense by default? (It's been a while since I've looked into these. Last Android phone I owned was a droid bionic and before that the htc hero.)
We definitely are going to support gingerbread, so we'll need a little bit of an older phone too. I'm sure breaking it up like that into 3 or so phones is ok, as long as they fall under budget.
And yeah, the dev tests with emulators, but I'm QA on this project so I get to play with them real-world once he's done and find more bugs.
Nexus S and a Galaxy Nexus,
Will do the job well:thumbup:
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It seems it is indeed no contest there.
Does the Galaxy Nexus come with Sense by default? (It's been a while since I've looked into these. Last Android phone I owned was a droid bionic and before that the htc hero.)
We definitely are going to support gingerbread, so we'll need a little bit of an older phone too. I'm sure breaking it up like that into 3 or so phones is ok, as long as they fall under budget.
And yeah, the dev tests with emulators, but I'm QA on this project so I get to play with them real-world once he's done and find more bugs.
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GNex is a Nexus phone, so why would it come with Sense?
Anyway, the best choice is still the HD2 IMO. You can test it on all versions of Android from 2.1-4.1 and it's incredibly cheap, with specs which are not too bad (1GHz Snapdragon with 576MB RAM) for the price. If you can get the app to run smoothly on the HD2 the likelihood is that it will run on any newer phone.
IMHO you have yo use a stock device.. nexus as all the docs suggest. Custom ROMs have additions substitutions and tweaks that in a dev sense are not baseline. Although the differences are minimal or should be. Better to play safe. So nexus s and galaxy nexus.. Google provide stock ROMs for these in dev device downloads.
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Noted. Thanks.
And yeah, that's cool that some of these phones support plenty of roms, but I don't want to be flashing 3 different roms every time the dev iterates a new point (v.2) update. I'd rather have 2-3 phones ready to go. (seems lazy, but I've got a lot of other work to do to
We got a droid (motorola timestamp issues), a Galaxy Nexus, and an hd2. So the hd2 comes stock with windows mobile? This is strange to me.
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We got a droid (motorola timestamp issues), a Galaxy Nexus, and an hd2. So the hd2 comes stock with windows mobile? This is strange to me.
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Well, the hd2 does have a lot of support, but when the top threads in the device specific forum warn of how unstable and beta-ish android development is on this phone, then I'm not really as excited as I was. might end up returning this one.
I don't know about everyone else, but i think this phone has one of the best developers, themes, & modders. I've been running the latest unofficial CM10.2 & it just reminded me of the 4.2.2 builds that preludedrew did back in my Inc2 days.
Shout out to all of our developers
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I agree. This phone does seem to have a great community. I certainly haven't had any shortage of a selection for roms, and when roms have bugs they are typically fixed within a few days. The Fascinate also was blessed with a pretty great community, back when I had that.
Could be that I'm just being nostalgic but I really miss the days of my old Incredible. What a huge dev community. Of course it helped that the Evo 4G's community was huge and they had essentially the same phone, but it was a great environment to get involved with Android.
CM7 was rock solid stable, there was a large assortment of different ROM types available like Sense 1.0, 2.1, 3.0, 3.5 and 2.1/3.0 hybrids. It was a great playground for a budding flashaholic.
The GS3 community has been equally as large but doesn't have the ROM variety the Inc had. Essentially on this phone your choices are Touchwiz Nature UX, CM and MIUI. All the TW ROMs are largely the same aside from theming and tweaks. Can't blame the developers for this, as Samsung made it too difficult to backport the newer versions of TouchWiz (and who'd want to anyway?).
I will say that despite these limitations we do have a plethora of choices and it continues to grow month after month.
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Could be that I'm just being nostalgic but I really miss the days of my old Incredible. What a huge dev community. Of course it helped that the Evo 4G's community was huge and they had essentially the same phone, but it was a great environment to get involved with Android.
CM7 was rock solid stable, there was a large assortment of different ROM types available like Sense 1.0, 2.1, 3.0, 3.5 and 2.1/3.0 hybrids. It was a great playground for a budding flashaholic.
The GS3 community has been equally as large but doesn't have the ROM variety the Inc had. Essentially on this phone your choices are Touchwiz Nature UX, CM and MIUI. All the TW ROMs are largely the same aside from theming and tweaks. Can't blame the developers for this, as Samsung made it too difficult to backport the newer versions of TouchWiz (and who'd want to anyway?).
I will say that despite these limitations we do have a plethora of choices and it continues to grow month after month.
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I understand, because I had the EVO 4G,which to me was the ultimate development phone. We had ports of everything, and it got overwhelming!
But hey... We have sense 5 on this phone now! I don't remember getting TW on my EVO 4G! :thumbup:
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I had the Evo 4G and I understand what you mean. In some ways I still miss that phone!
It wasn't just the phone, in pre-ICS days Android was truly an open OS and there were tons of variants, including many Chinese roms. I remember the first day I put on MIUI and it was like everything changed and became better, it was that different and better. Then we had all kinds of CM7/Sense based rom's.
With ICS everything became much harder. It took CM almost a year to get a stable version, older devices like the Evo were abandoned and never fully recovered, and these days its much much harder to get true variety.
The devs and XDA are what keeps Android worth using.
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I understand, because I had the EVO 4G,which to me was the ultimate development phone. We had ports of everything, and it got overwhelming!
But hey... We have sense 5 on this phone now! I don't remember getting TW on my EVO 4G! :thumbup:
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I remember that Evo 4G as well, it did seem as if we were able to run everything that was out at the time. The ports worked pretty good except for wimax aka 4G, but being on sprint at the time it didn't work that well anyway so we weren't missing out on that feature too much. But we move on as the devs move on.
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I remember that Evo 4G as well, it did seem as if we were able to run everything that was out at the time. The ports worked pretty good except for wimax aka 4G, but being on sprint at the time it didn't work that well anyway so we weren't missing out on that feature too much. But we move on as the devs move on.
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Ha ha oh yeah, I never saw 4G regardless of ROM. Good ol Sprint.
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