So why isn't the Thunderbolt a DROID? - Thunderbolt General

Has anyone seen the adds for the Charge? It's claiming it's the first DROID on Verizon infused with 4G. I thought that was the Thunderbolt. So what technically makes an android phone a DROID?

bentleysmom said:
Has anyone seen the adds for the Charge? It's claiming it's the first DROID on Verizon infused with 4G. I thought that was the Thunderbolt. So what technically makes an android phone a DROID?
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I'd say money and contracts. Verizon initially had the Motorola DROID and HTC DROID Eris, then the HTC DROID Incredible, along with other Motorola variations of the DROID. Now it's Samsung's turn at getting the DROID label. Maybe HTC decided it wasn't worth the extra premium to slap the label onto the Thunderbolt.
Of course, this is purely speculation on my part.

bentleysmom said:
Has anyone seen the adds for the Charge? It's claiming it's the first DROID on Verizon infused with 4G. I thought that was the Thunderbolt. So what technically makes an android phone a DROID?
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its just a special name for certain verizon phones. it technically is the first droid with 4g since the thunderbolt doesnt have the droid name. theres really nothing special about a phone having the droid name. i thought wen the og droid came out maybe the verizon droid phones will have stock android since the og droid did. but once the eris, incredible, x and then the 2 came out i was obviously incorrect.

bentleysmom said:
Has anyone seen the adds for the Charge? It's claiming it's the first DROID on Verizon infused with 4G. I thought that was the Thunderbolt. So what technically makes an android phone a DROID?
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Because the tb isnt a POS? I was using the charge and it was terrible :/ ... tbolt ftw!
Also would you have have Droid Mecha or the Thunderbolt?
Though... the first 1 sounds better xD, also the droid branding isnt my fav compared to stock htc stuff

Kind of like the Evo series on sprint.. Verizon has their Droid series
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I kinda like Droid Mecha....
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JBO1018 said:
I kinda like Droid Mecha....
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Amen. That sound awesome
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Breezer23 said:
Amen. That sound awesome
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New sub-forum for the Droid Mecha.

Likely the TB doesn't carry the Droid moniker because HTC didn't want to pay George Lucas the licensing fees to use the name

I thought anything Blur based was givin' the "Droid" name. Could be wrong.
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chkmate said:
I thought anything Blur based was givin' the "Droid" name. Could be wrong.
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Droid is a brand name used by Verizon. It has nothing to do with blur. The og Droid was a Google Expierence device. The Droid Eris, and Incredible ran sense, Droids D2, and X ran motoblur, and Droid charge runs touchwiz.
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The Droid name is to help market a device. The Charge needs the Droid moniker to make it seem like a different beast than other phones and push it better. The Thunderbolt is an HTC made device and is Verizon's first 4G device. It doesn't need the Droid name, it'd be a waste of resources.
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I've always thought that the Droid name was given to top tier Verizon Android phones that are exclusive to VZW in the US.. For example, the Fascinate was certainly one of the best Android phones on Verizon when it was released, but it was also on every other carrier.
The Droid Charge is unique to Verizon.
The TBolt is pretty much an Evo 4G with LTE.

The Charge doesn't seem worthy of the DROID name, IMHO.

Maybe OT but, I personally hate it when people refer to ANY Android phone as a "Droid". It gets my blood boiling for some reason...
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The TBolt is pretty much an Evo 4G with LTE, a better processor, and more RAM.
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I corrected that for ya.
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The thunderbolt was annonced as a "droid", Droid Incredible HD

Nusince said:
Droid is a brand name used by Verizon. It has nothing to do with blur. The og Droid was a Google Expierence device. The Droid Eris, and Incredible ran sense, Droids D2, and X ran motoblur, and Droid charge runs touchwiz.
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Ok...this is why I said "I could be wrong." Because I wasn't sure. Thanks for clarifying
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They're all droids to me.
You have a berry, iphone, or droid.
this is not a signature I type it in every time it may be sent from my computer or my phone.

canistotaweb said:
Likely the TB doesn't carry the Droid moniker because HTC didn't want to pay George Lucas the licensing fees to use the name
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Exactly. ;-)
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Which one? epic 4G or Droid X?

Ughhhh. Before I was 100% of getting the droid X now that the Epic 4g came out im a little hesistant. Is the snapdragon processor slowler than hummingbird? And do you think the keyboard is worth having a smaller screen?
Don't forget about the droid 2 either. Its not out yet, but it will be within the next few months.
The phone with a real keyboard always wins in my book. I wish they would stop with the manufacturer interfaces. Stock android is all you need.
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Verizon?

I'm currently switching from sprint to Verizon I was just wondering if there was any way I can use my ns4g on Verizon's network? Its rooted and unlocked
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Nope, sure isn't. Why did you buy a NS4G if you were going to Verizon?
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Can someone move this thread because it doesn't belong in the android development section
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I just switched to sprint from T-Mobile I didn't realize how horrible there data is around here and Verizon has great lte coverage around here. I definitely wasn't expecting T-Mobile to be faster then sprint
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i4g3t143 said:
I'm currently switching from sprint to Verizon I was just wondering if there was any way I can use my ns4g on Verizon's network? Its rooted and unlocked
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Get out of this thread crack monkey
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Haha! Crack monkey...
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Get out of this thread crack monkey
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To answer you unsarcastically, no you cannot. Verizon will not activate a phone that is not theirs. If you're looking for a stock Android experience on Verizon, check out the Xperia Play, and if you're looking for a 4-inch smartphone, check out the HTC Incredible 2.
Incredible 2 is locked down. I don't think anyone has even rooted it yet. Thunderbolt has a decent CM7 alpha, but isn't a good phone. OG incredible is a great phone but very small. Bionic should be dropping shortly, it will also most likely be locked. Oh, there's always the Samsung Charge
JewishMatt said:
To answer you unsarcastically, no you cannot. Verizon will not activate a phone that is not theirs. If you're looking for a stock Android experience on Verizon, check out the Xperia Play, and if you're looking for a 4-inch smartphone, check out the HTC Incredible 2.
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Incredible 2 is locked down. I don't think anyone has even rooted it yet. Thunderbolt has a decent CM7 alpha, but isn't a good phone. OG incredible is a great phone but very small. Bionic should be dropping shortly, it will also most likely be locked. Oh, there's always the Samsung Charge
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Don't forget the Revolution and if HTC sticks to their word the DInc2 may see an unlocked bootloader. If that happens that phone will be a beast. I got one in trade really cheap so I'm hoping lol.
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sunder74 said:
Don't forget the Revolution and if HTC sticks to their word the DInc2 may see an unlocked bootloader. If that happens that phone will be a beast. I got one in trade really cheap so I'm hoping lol.
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LOL, I agree. INC2 will be an amazing phone. I HOPE it gets unlocked, but I doubt they will unlock already released phones. It will be new phones that unlock "promise" will affect. I hope that isnt the case...
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LOL, I agree. INC2 will be an amazing phone. I HOPE it gets unlocked, but I doubt they will unlock already released phones. It will be new phones that unlock "promise" will affect. I hope that isnt the case...
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Yeah me as well. In any event still a good phone regardless for a user who doesn't care about root. I am a HTC fanboy and hope the next Nexus falls to them.
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sunder74 said:
Yeah me as well. In any event still a good phone regardless for a user who doesn't care about root. I am a HTC fanboy and hope the next Nexus falls to them.
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Dual core snapdragon Nexus! Yes please. With the wimax code built into source now, count on it being on sprint also.
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Dual core snapdragon Nexus! Yes please. With the wimax code built into source now, count on it being on sprint also.
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Indeed...please no moto or LG lol (though they're supposedly in contention as well) Moto does have good build quality...but that's about it. LG ...well some people should stick to refrigerators and washing machines lol.
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sunder74 said:
Indeed...please no moto or LG lol (though they're supposedly in contention as well) Moto does have good build quality...but that's about it. LG ...well some people should stick to refrigerators and washing machines lol.
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lol, im kind of fond of moto myself. i think locking the droid x and droid 2 was the biggest mistake they could have ever made. a moto nexus would be very cool. LG, I dont know that I would really go out of my way to get it.
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lol, im kind of fond of moto myself. i think locking the droid x and droid 2 was the biggest mistake they could have ever made. a moto nexus would be very cool. LG, I dont know that I would really go out of my way to get it.
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Yeah I had the OG and DX solid well made device...I don't know I've given up on them and the bootloader issue. Looks like it will be the UI formerly known as blur(moto is intent on changing the name) forvever lol.
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Yeah I had the OG and DX solid well made device...I don't know I've given up on them and the bootloader issue. Looks like it will be the UI formerly known as blur(moto is intent on changing the name) forvever lol.
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Have you seen what theyve done with blur in the GB builds on the X? very cool now, even for blur I think if the X hadnt been locked and we colud get aosp on it, it would have gone down as a legend. It would still be relevant in another year or 2.
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Have you seen what theyve done with blur in the GB builds on the X? very cool now, even for blur I think if the X hadnt been locked and we colud get aosp on it, it would have gone down as a legend. It would still be relevant in another year or 2.
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Yeah I played with it and actually ported a version of the GingerBlur UI theme to the Fascinate. Its an improvement no doubt. Hardware wise like I mentioned earlier moto is solid. Its actually still got some good specs (the DX2 refresh would have been a monster with an LTE radio). I agree aosp would have been a beast on it. CVPCS is still working on CM for it...the
guy is relentless lol.
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Yeah I played with it and actually ported a version of the GingerBlur UI theme to the Fascinate. Its an improvement no doubt. Hardware wise like I mentioned earlier moto is solid. Its actually still got some good specs (the DX2 refresh would have been a monster with an LTE radio). I agree aosp would have been a beast on it. CVPCS is still working on CM for it...the
guy is relentless lol.
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wait, you still have your bolt? or did you give it up for the ns4g?
I still have it ...in my sock drawer lol...battery sucking fiend is what that thing is lol...
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sunder74 said:
I still have it ...in my sock drawer lol...battery sucking fiend is what that thing is lol...
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LOL, it sure is. and a buggy sob too. I had mine a little over a month and couldnt deal with it anymore. Switched to sprint and dont miss that phone a bit. I do miss Verizon service sometimes though.

will the droid charge ever...

Will the droid charge ever be supported by Cyanogen?
Reason I ask is because I just picked up the droid incredible 2, which is a great phone and even better on battery life than any other android phone I've had before (evo, nexus s), and I'm still on my 14 day trial but I'm considering the droid charge. I love the amoled screen on sammy, makes all other screens look washed out, and the vanilla look and speed. So cyanogen for droid charge ever? How are the roms without TW and how is battery life on the charge?
Last question, how does the charge feel in the pocket? I remember my evo was like a brick, and the nexus s was like nothing compared to it. The droid inc 2 is about the same as the nexus s. Thanks in advance.
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Will the droid charge ever be supported by Cyanogen?
Reason I ask is because I just picked up the droid incredible 2, which is a great phone and even better on battery life than any other android phone I've had before (evo, nexus s), and I'm still on my 14 day trial but I'm considering the droid charge. I love the amoled screen on sammy, makes all other screens look washed out, and the vanilla look and speed. So cyanogen for droid charge ever? How are the roms without TW and how is battery life on the charge?
Last question, how does the charge feel in the pocket? I remember my evo was like a brick, and the nexus s was like nothing compared to it. The droid inc 2 is about the same as the nexus s. Thanks in advance.
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will it get cm7? probably at some point, how functional it will end up being is anyone's guess...official support? murky at best
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will it get cm7? probably at some point, how functional it will end up being is anyone's guess...official support? murky at best
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I just don't like TW. It really lags the phone, comapred to the nexus s which has the same hardware but stock vanilla. That is why I'm asking about CM7, but I'm sure there are other roms out there which has taken the TW out of it right? I'm just in the fence between this phone and the droid inc 2.
Let me try to give some input on the droid inc 2 and maybe you guys can give me some feedback on what your experiences are with the charge.
-very light, feels great in the pocket
-sense, a couple or roms being developed now with addition of 3.0 sense but I can live without
-no 4g, not that I have 4g in my city, but it is offered at some places I usuallly go to
-already has a beta cm7, which runs nearly perfect, very stable
-very fast phone, browsing the web and opening up apps
-battery life is best from my experience, can easily get by with one day with moderate/heavy use with leftover juice
I'm just trying to decide wich one to keep with the help of people who already have the charge and can talk about the pros and cons of the phone. Thanks again.
If the 4g is not that important to you, then your current phone has better hardware except for the screen.
I personally don't know how I survived without 4g for this long.
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I have the Charge primarily for the screen. After all, any time im using the phone, im looking at the screen, making it the most used piece of hardware on the device besides the radios. Its plenty fast for me as well.
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Tornlogic said:
I have the Charge primarily for the screen. After all, any time im using the phone, im looking at the screen, making it the most used piece of hardware on the device besides the radios. Its plenty fast for me as well.
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Im telling you that super amoled really spoils you. That is the one thing that is really making me be in the middle between the two. After having one and going back to a LCD is hard, really looks washed out, plain and boring.
lol, funny how companies get your attetion/business.
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If the 4g is not that important to you, then your current phone has better hardware except for the screen.
I personally don't know how I survived without 4g for this long.
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agreed...4 g is faster than my wifi right now. Screen is SICK. Can't go to a bionic from this, only a 4g GSII. If it exists.
I hate to say it but I'm getting the d3. I'm going to sell this phone. I hate how slow it is and knowing samsung updates won't come fast leaks are great but leaks are leaks. 4g is killing my battery and I'm always on wifi anyways. And oh who doesn't miss the keyboard. Locked isn't a problem im sure it will be unlocked the same way the atrix was and motorola left fastboot on it which means there is more to come. Just my opinion and i know the trolls will come.
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r2DoesInc has a Charge and is going to work on porting OMGB and OMFGB to it, so we'll have at least those for AOSP ROMs then. Once one AOSP ROM is done and working, it should be easier to port others to the phone then as well. It will happen at some point, the only problem is, it could take a while to happen.
To put things in context, the Fascinate, which came out about 10 months ago and is extremely similar to the Charge specs-wise, has just -- literally in the past few days -- gotten more-or-less fully functional CM7.
As far as the Incredible 2 goes, it's a decent but thoroughly underwhelming phone considering it came out so recently. Single-core, no 4G, okay but not great screen...it really is more comparable to the Fascinate than to the Charge or Droid X2.
Honestly, if you have a choice, you'd be better off waiting for the Droid Bionic, which will finally mate a dual-core processor with 4G.
i tell you 4g is so sweet. I came from a dx and i knew the bonic was coming out when i bought the charge. I dont regret at all upgrading. As i hated Blur and there screens are bad. TouchWiz is not that bad to me. I think you will be very happy with the charge. I am rooted and on humble 1.3 and voodoo kernel and my benchmarks are as high as my droid x on Gingerbread. I dont see qhy everyone loves Motorola after owning my charge.
Good luck buddy
I'm running gummy charged 1.4 its aosp and running 2.3.4. great Rom and really smooth. but you have
To flash 1.0 through Odin to get the right radio.
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It's not aosp hahaha its a debloated and themed tw rom
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I am so very confused. I have the droid charge. I had a droid 1 for the past year, I rooted it a hundred times or so with all different roms. it was very easy. I cannot for the life of me find on here or droid forums how to root the charge with no other changes. I guess there isnt a way yet? I really LOVE 4G. I have seen speeds up to 12 Mbs. And twice that fast posted by others like in Dallas area. I am a truck driver I am in and out of 4G areas all the time. I have a situation where I had to pay for the tethering right now my son was in a terrible crash and we have been in the Vanderbilt hospital in Nashville since Sat. $30 for 2Gigs...ugh. I need root. lol. I have searched and searched. I do not understand the oodin method. I really have tried to find what im looking for just unable right now. ty in advance
Odins the only way
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Odins the only way
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but can it be rooted without changing everything else? using odin?
papi92 said:
I hate to say it but I'm getting the d3. I'm going to sell this phone. I hate how slow it is and knowing samsung updates won't come fast leaks are great but leaks are leaks. 4g is killing my battery and I'm always on wifi anyways. And oh who doesn't miss the keyboard. Locked isn't a problem im sure it will be unlocked the same way the atrix was and motorola left fastboot on it which means there is more to come. Just my opinion and i know the trolls will come.
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Yeah, you definitely have to be willing to flash a rom to this phone, Sammy's stock software is awful. I don't think I could own the thing without a custom rom and lagfix applied.
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I'm running gummy charged 1.4 its aosp and running 2.3.4. great Rom and really smooth. but you have
To flash 1.0 through Odin to get the right radio.
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how do these roms run compared to stock? I have seen the pictures but no videos, maybe somebody can post one and compare it to something else. Honestly the droid inc 2 has got pretty much the same specs as the charge exept no 4g and more ram. The thing that I love about the charge is that it will be future proof with the 4g and the lovely screen.
How about the droid 3? anybody seen one yet? It just seems appealing because of the dual core and front camera, but I would hate the extra bulkiness from the keyboard. So hard to decide on a phone which will be a solid phone for the 2 years.

I'm upgrading tonight. HELP!

I'm upgrading tonight and finally ditching the Droid X. I'm either getting the HTC Rezound or the Droid Razr Maxx. Both have tons of pros and cons. I need your opinions. Please help!
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I'm upgrading tonight and finally ditching the Droid X. I'm either getting the HTC Rezound or the Droid Razr Maxx. Both have tons of pros and cons. I need your opinions. Please help!
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razr maxx, the phone is actually amazing and the battery lasts as long as your grandma's brick phone.
I would suggest to wait it out and take a look at the Incredible 4G or whatever variant of the SIII Verizon gets. Also take a look in the marketplace, sometimes you can get a Maxx or Rezound for around $300 which .. well the phone on a contract is like $200 then you can save your upgrade for later
Razr Maxx all the way. The battery life is amazing.
Is it easy to root the maxx? Or has Motorola made it a pain in the ass to deal with the bootloader?
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One X vs Atrix HD

I recently purchased the Atrix HD from Best Buy. I love the phone, as coming from the Original Atrix, but it has a sub-par camera. I was thinking of exchanging it for this phone because of the camera. The one thing I do not like about the One X is there is no microsd slot. I was just wondering if you guys had any opinions of what I should do. Thanks in advance.
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I recently purchased the Atrix HD from Best Buy. I love the phone, as coming from the Original Atrix, but it a sub-par camera. I was thinking of exchanging it for this phone because of the camera. The one thing I do not like about the One X is there is no microsd slot. I was just wondering if you guys had any opinions of what I should do. Thanks in advance.
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Yeah...the no microsd is a bummer but if you can get past that the Hox IMO is better in pretty much every department
yeah didnt like the one x because it didnt have a micro sd card either, but i also have a galaxy tab 2 7.0 with that option
and i realize i have the same usual stuff i have on both, in other words i didnt really need the extra storage
who knows, maybe you'll grow past it and wont need it
on the other note, you do have 4g speed to stream almost anything and drop box
I exchanged my Atrix HD for a HOX and I don't regret it one bit. I get better battery life on the HOX than I did on the Atrix HD. The camera on the HOX is also much better than the camera on the Atrix HD.
I say go for it
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Thank you all for the input. I will go to Best Buy and ask to test the one x. I just have sentimental value with the atrix already.
Dude I know how you feel about loving another device. But trust me.. its worth it.
I went from atrix to gs2 to gnex to hox
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Thank you all for the input. I will go to Best Buy and ask to test the one x. I just have sentimental value with the atrix already.
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You won't regret kicking the AHD to the curb after owning the HOX.
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Samsung!
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Samsung!
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I will prob be headed to Best Buy and try to get a price match for Costco for the HOX. Thanks again for the opinions.
I went from hox to sgs3 to atrix hd. The HD is by far smoother than the other two.and closer to stock build of ics is great.
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I went from hox to sgs3 to atrix hd. The HD is by far smoother than the other two.and closer to stock build of ics is great.
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That is why I did not want to return it. It by far was the closest to stock fir a branded phone. The cons of the phone were just too much for me to keep it. I loved the design of it but the fact the locked bootloader did not let me root the phone, killed the experience. It seemed a root was not coming any time soon. Hopefully this will not be the case.
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I will prob be headed to Best Buy and try to get a price match for Costco for the HOX. Thanks again for the opinions.
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Not all best buy will match Costco or Sam's club. Have to get a nice manager or try another one.
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stick with the HD
I have been debating the same thing. I am going to stick to my Atrix HD. Motorola has better signal integrity than any other phone I know, it is solid and has the gorilla glass and the kevlar. Also the extra storage is a big plus. I also like the ICS from motorola vs the HTC.
mantoles said:
I have been debating the same thing. I am going to stick to my Atrix HD. Motorola has better signal integrity than any other phone I know, it is solid and has the gorilla glass and the kevlar. Also the extra storage is a big plus. I also like the ICS from motorola vs the HTC.
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I disagree with the signal part, I've heard nothing but complaints when it's come to Motorola's android phones and signal issues
This phone has gorilla glass
You have a better chance at rooting a HTC device than moto
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I disagree with the signal part, I've heard nothing but complaints when it's come to Motorola's android phones and signal issues
This phone has gorilla glass
You have a better chance at rooting a HTC device than moto
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I had this same decision about a month ago and the rooting bit was what sold me on the HOX (among other things).
ICS is good, and clearly Motorola has toned down their version of it, but it is not Jellybean. While Jellybean doesn't seem like much of an improvement, I've found it to be significantly better than ICS. Android still has some work to do in the polish department, and JB has made it much better. Plus, rooting allows you to be on the latest version of Android, as Atrix HD users will probably only get Jellybean once Key Lime Pie comes out.
I'm in the same boat at the moment as well. I have an unlocked mint condition Atrix HD I just picked up a week ago. I'm using it with Tmobile and am enjoying the fast 4G speeds however now that I've seen the One X, I'm interested in trying that phone out as well.
Do you guys think its worth the hassle of swapping my phone for the One X?
My sister just upgraded to the ahd from the original atrix against my recommendation. I toyed with it for a few minutes and i wasnt that impressed its not as smooth as my hox was stock. But to each his own. Again keep in mind that if you get the hox see what software version it is. If its 2.20 then there is currently no root for it.
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Oh and I honestly haven't missed the external SD card. Yeah at some times it would be nice but thanks to dropbox I don't really need anything it.
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i thought about ATRIX HD vs ONE X too
but went with ONE X cause its sexier faster and better
atrix hd rom
I've been working on porting the atrix HD rom to our awesome htc one xl since they are very similar in specs. I've almost gotten it to boot but it freezes on the att animation right before It lads the ui. If any developers want to take a look at it or work on it send me a pm. I just thought You guys might be interested in it since some of you like the one x hardware and the Atrix hd software like i do.

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