NFC payments. - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ok since NFC is gonna be available to use for payments soon, I just wanted to ask how you get your card details on your phone so they are readable by an NFC terminal?
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Ok since NFC is gonna be available to use for payments soon,
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Don't hold your breath. I would estimate the time to significant market penetration in years, not "soon" anyway.
I just wanted to ask how you get your card details on your phone so they are readable by an NFC terminal?
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You can't yet, AFAIK. As I said, don't hold your breath...

Oh ok, the impression I got was it was gonna be available late this year. Oh nevermind. Thanks.
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benrees21 said:
Oh ok, the impression I got was it was gonna be available late this year. Oh nevermind. Thanks.
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They said everywhere will have it except Essex;P
JD

JupiterDroid said:
They said everywhere will have it except Essex;P
JD
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How do you know I'm in Essex?
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benrees21 said:
How do you know I'm in Essex?
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hahahaha
Your location says Grays
JD

Suzi Perry (gadget show) tweeted the other day that she had used her phone's nfc to pay for stuff, probably as part of a test but I dont think its that far away for stuff like coffee bars etc.
http://twitter.com/#!/suziperry/status/71588104267497472
also found this...
http://shop.orange.co.uk/mobile-phones/contactless/overview.jsp

Well, think of it from the side of the shop owners: There are just about only two models of phones with a nfc chip. Hardly anyone has one. Supporting it will cost you money, but as long as there is no user base, you won't have any income from it. You have no incentive to get it.
But as long as there are no shops that support it, users won't make the presence of nfc a must have feature when choosing a new phone.
We have a kind of chicken and egg problem. When there are enough nfc phones in the wild it might just take off, but I think it will take a few years.

Well I wish they would hurry up. I guarantee that when Iphone 5 comes out with NFC they will be all over it like a rash. It sucks. Yea I forgot xda had my location. Lol.
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[DISCUSSION] Mesmerize source is out (SCH-I500 USC)

SCH-I500_USCC_OpenSource.zip @ opensource.sammy
Gonna be checking this out with interest.. Wonder if they cleaned it up any as compared to what they gave us..
This might be useful after all. Kernel just compiled without any changes.. Samsung might've finally released some working source.
cool. let us know how it works when you flash it.
Oh, I'm not going to flash the kernel
Unlike our source, we could compile this source straight from Samsung.. This leads me to believe their code for their OS build is probably clean too.. So we might be able to use some of it to get aosp going.
I generally don't recommend anyone flash kernel's from different HW, but in this instance I think with their kernel source and our stock ramdisk, all that will probably happen is a nice US cellular logo, and a kernel panic. I'm sure someone bored/desperate enough will come along and do it soon enough.
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...I generally don't recommend anyone flash kernel's from different HW...
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While I agree with your statement I don't think the hardware is actually different in this case. That said, I'm not going to be the first.
I'm also interested to see what .apks from the Mesmerize will work on the Fascinate.
I started a thread discussing that here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822186
Very interested in this...hope this will help out the develolment of our phones..
FWIW, I'm pretty sure the model number of the Mesmerize is the SCH-i500, same as the Fascinate, meaning the hardware is identical, so theoretically the code should all be fully interchangeable.
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ivorycruncher said:
FWIW, I'm pretty sure the model number of the Mesmerize is the SCH-i500, same as the Fascinate, meaning the hardware is identical, so theoretically the code should all be fully interchangeable.
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So are you volunteering to try it first? I would have been but after watching the AT&T logo stuck on the Fascinate with the other guy... I don't think I'll be the first...
I'm up to give it a try. I have a spare fascinate sitting on my desk at home.I'm at work right now but plan to be back in 3-4 hours. I will need some hand holding though as I don't know what to do.
Ke1evraTi said:
I'm up to give it a try. I have a spare fascinate sitting on my desk at home.I'm at work right now but plan to be back in 3-4 hours. I will need some hand holding though as I don't know what to do.
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who the hell has spare fascinates sitting around?!?! lol
sumfknguy said:
who the hell has spare fascinates sitting around?!?! lol
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I did. I got mine through Verizon's bogo so I had 2 but eventually gave the second one to my mom so she has a decent phone.
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sumfknguy said:
who the hell has spare fascinates sitting around?!?! lol
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I know I do! - They were buy one get one free...
RacerXFD said:
So are you volunteering to try it first? I would have been but after watching the AT&T logo stuck on the Fascinate with the other guy... I don't think I'll be the first...
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Uhhhh...no, hehe. My keyword there was "theoretically." I wouldn't let the Captivate flash incident you mentioned scare you though. That IS a different hardware model, with a GSM radio instead of CDMA. I'm not at all surprised it broke the Fascinate.
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sumfknguy said:
who the hell has spare fascinates sitting around?!?! lol
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I have two. The one I'm using now and one sitting in a drawer in my bedroom. Thanks to Verizon for the buy one get one free.
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angel (fallingup) flashed the kernel I built a few days ago using our ramdisk.. It was interesting, but didn't quite get there. No end-of-the-world crash, but it didn't make it far into the boot.
Still looking to see what else we can rip out this source code.
Just to share, I recall some people being disappointed that the Fascinate's Contacts app did not have the ability to swipe left/right for messaging/call. I just copied over the Contacts.apk from the Mesmerize dump and it does work on the Fascinate and has the swipe functionality for those that are interested.
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Just to share, I recall some people being disappointed that the Fascinate's Contacts app did not have the ability to swipe left/right for messaging/call. I just copied over the Contacts.apk from the Mesmerize dump and it does work on the Fascinate and has the swipe functionality for those that are interested.
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Yes please
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martian21 said:
I know I do! - They were buy one get one free...
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Thrillhouse847 said:
I have two. The one I'm using now and one sitting in a drawer in my bedroom. Thanks to Verizon for the buy one get one free.
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You need to lend them to developers for some hard core developing!!!
Birdman has the mesmerize kernel booting on the Fascinate
tats_06 said:
You need to lend them to developers for some hard core developing!!!
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I've considered temporally donating it to whoever is working on Cyanogen for the Galaxy S (or whichever variant) to lite a fire under them for developing it for the Fascinate also, but not sure if that would really make a difference
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Baked Snack 1.6 "Undisputed" "A2SD,Fastest,Best Battery,Lots of Choices" "Team Hero"

Baked Snack 1.6 "Undisputed" "A2SD,Fastest,Best Battery,Lots of Choices" "Team Hero"
Rom removed because i am prolly getting banned by xda again!
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'grats on the release, dude. I'm sure it's great
I'd try it out, but I've got my hands tied
ha, its not 10 yet
DevinXtreme said:
'grats on the release, dude. I'm sure it's great
I'd try it out, but I've got my hands tied
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yeah thats what i was telling robert. its hard to try one anothers roms when all your time goes to workin on your own lol
How big should ext4 partition be? That will erase all on the card?
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wowzer another rom....just wen i hopped on syndicaterom... i loved baked snack rom...
Suhhhhh-weeeet!
cant wait to try it out hopefully my phone can overclock to 1.3ghz
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cant wait to try it out hopefully my phone can overclock to 1.3ghz
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should be able to... im running 1.6 ghz on syndicateRom
So when's it gonna be out for public release? Where?
sosoqtpinoy said:
should be able to... im running 1.6 ghz on syndicateRom
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You should do some research, that isnt a true 1.6ghz clock. Its more towards a 1.2ghz clock if my understanding is correct.
EDIT: and dont think i'm hating on ACS, their rom/kernel is by far the best i have ever tried on my epic, even if it isnt a true 1.6ghz clock its fast as hell and i will go back to it if i dont like BS 1.5
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How big should ext4 partition be? That will erase all on the card?
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I recommend 512mb
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I recommend 512mb
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Will there be a performance boost even if we are using the slow class 2 16gb card that comes with the phone if we decide to put the dalvik cache on a ext4 patition?
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I recommend 512mb
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can you post a step by step how to do this? thanks
FoxRacR17 said:
You should do some research, that isnt a true 1.6ghz clock. Its more towards a 1.2ghz clock if my understanding is correct.
EDIT: and dont think i'm hating on ACS, their rom/kernel is by far the best i have ever tried on my epic, even if it isnt a true 1.6ghz clock its fast as hell and i will go back to it if i dont like BS 1.5
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yeah they do great work. they are still missing some code in the overclock and once they put it in they will find instant lockups.
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can you post a step by step how to do this? thanks
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Also, can you please explain what this means/does for our phones and/or your ROM?
Waiting paitiently for it to upload!
Do you recommend installing the ROM and the herospecial #2 kernal? Whats the difference between the one flashed with the ROM and #2? Just battery life from undervolting?
okay so ive been anxiously waiting for this lol.. so the first 1.5 link is the rom+kernel and the 2nd link is just a kernel?
if so then how is the battery life and performance on the first kernel when compared to the 2nd?
oh and btw i wanna use the emotionless beast theme.. it should work without problems right?
last but not least Thanks Alottttttt!!
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This is where most developers try to say fancy stuff about their goals and such. I want this ROM to be fast and have awesome battery and some coolio features too.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO USE A THEME ON THIS ROM. LET ME KNOW WHAT THEME AND I WILL WORK TO GET THEIR APKS UP TO SPEED WITH MINE
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Emotionless Beast please!!!
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[Q] G2x ICS advantages?

Question – What advantages will the G2x have over single-core phones when it comes to Ice Cream Sandwich? I know that the Nexus S will receive the ICS update before the G2x and be able to take advantage of the NFC chip with Beam, Wallet, etc. What would the G2x bring to the table that the NS can’t when it comes to ICS? I’ve heard forum folks say that ICS is optimized for duo-core phones, but what does that mean exactly?
Probably the multitasking. I bet our phones won't slow down as much as the Nexus S.
However, with that being said, I find it really skeptical about when we'll actually see ICS on the G2X. I credit our developers GREATLY, but that's a huge task that we can't expect them to do overnight.
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Probably the multitasking. I bet our phones won't slow down as much as the Nexus S.
However, with that being said, I find it really skeptical about when we'll actually see ICS on the G2X. I credit our developers GREATLY, but that's a huge task that we can't expect them to do overnight.
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CM8. I'm hopeful
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Avelnan said:
CM8. I'm hopeful
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Why would you want honeycomb on a phone? ICS is cm 9.
tahahawa said:
Why would you want honeycomb on a phone? ICS is cm 9.
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I don't like how they skipped 8...
aceofserenity said:
According to who?
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They said that cm 8 was going to be honey comb, but the source code wasn't released. Therefore the next version of cm is cm 9. Also google said that they would release the source for honeycomb along with ICS. Also the cm team at the Android bbq said that it would be cm 9. Some one else said that, I wasn't there.
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They said that cm 8 was going to be honey comb, but the source code wasn't released. Therefore the next version of cm is cm 9. Also google said that they would release the source for honeycomb along with ICS. Also the cm team at the Android bbq said that it would be cm 9. Some one else said that, I wasn't there.
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In that case I'm really looking forward to CM9
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google said that they would release the source for honeycomb along with ICS.
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I could believe that. I would bet money the reason they withheld it was to stop idiot OEMs from making Honeycomb phones and advertising that they had the newest android.
Now they have no reason to do that, because ICS.

Maybe a chance for Sidekicks advancement?

I just read a little bit ago that the motorola cliq 2 just got Gingerbread after a year and four months of no updates at all. Do you think this means we have a chance for GB or just a tease that one old phone gets special support and not the others? And if we got true ginger would it help with the ROM/Mod nation or would it just be putting sparkles on the corpse of our phone?
Probably not. That news inst super recent, and motorola supports their phones a little bit better then samsung. If we get gingerbread it will be through the community more than likely.
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Darn, got my hopes up for nothing :/ Oh and sorry for not noticing the ginger thread you just posted.
Nah its all good bro its all a hypathetical thread really anyways.
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Motorola is different from Samsung pushing update wise.
This phone has passed a year so Samsung no longer supports it.
TruthBeTold said:
Don't give yourself false hope, it's already been said support has been dropped in favor for a new Sidekick that will be coming out..
You're only hope here is if Reactive stops acting like a prick to you guys, but you all let me know how that goes.
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I smell Jin ;-)
He's not acting like a prick you are now be gone pls.
Okay, off of the argument is there any chance of a custom made Ginger or is it hypothetical or? I've seen a few people tweaking kernels and such in their threads but Is there a real answer or is it just maybe?
Sakuryu said:
Okay, off of the argument is there any chance of a custom made Ginger or is it hypothetical or? I've seen a few people tweaking kernels and such in their threads but Is there a real answer or is it just maybe?
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Gingerbread on Sidekick is currently only hypothetical. My take is that it might still be possible, but very difficult.
Sduvick managed to boot an AOSP 2.2 kernel up to a certain point, but IIRC, it was still far from usable. No graphics. His work is available in github.
Winxixi got CM7 booting and into the GUI, but with incomplete driver support. I think he got frustrated and left. His work is also available in github.
I don't know if winxixi would consider continuing development, or if he has moved on to a different device. If he would continue development, and the rest of us helped with troubleshooting, research, etc., perhaps we can get a fullly operational Gingerbread.
It's really just a big project, very difficult for an individual to tackle to completion. Dividing the labor might improve the outlook.
TruthBeTold said:
Well, like others have said, maybe not GB, but there's CM6 which can be ported (we're just lacking the knowledge of how to do it)
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actually cm6 is being ported as we speak, piece by piece.
yoyowhatup22 said:
actually cm6 is being ported as we speak, piece by piece.
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Yes, it's being ported using the machete toolchain.
What's the Machete Toolchain? And is CM going to help us get a little farther up the Droid food chain? I mean I don't expect Jelly Bean on my phone but Ginger, or a ginger mock up would be cool, I would like some kind of exploit for the ICS exclusive apps and such to make it a bit smooth (I know It's a basically unattainable dream don't worry
It's a bit of a joke. Machete like this: http://images.google.com/search?q=machete+blade&btnG=Search&tbm=isch&hl=en&biw=&bih=&gbv=1
I.e. he's hacking off pieces Touchwiz as though with a knife.
I think CM6 will if not help, atleast give hope towards CM7 coming to this device.
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I think CM6 will if not help, atleast give hope towards CM7 coming to this device.
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Honestly I'd be thrilled if we gained a vanilla, built-from-source CM6 ROM, especially if the sources/patches were made fully available.
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It's a bit of a joke. Machete like this: http://images.google.com/search?q=machete+blade&btnG=Search&tbm=isch&hl=en&biw=&bih=&gbv=1
I.e. he's hacking off pieces Touchwiz as though with a knife.
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Its a little more involved then that. Lots of AOSP/CM6 patches to replace the Touchwiz components. Piece by piece im riding the stock rom of Touchwiz. I had to compile and mingle code to get AOSP messaging working correctly.
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Its a little more involved then that. Lots of AOSP/CM6 patches to replace the Touchwiz components. Piece by piece im riding the stock rom of Touchwiz. I had to compile and mingle code to get AOSP messaging working correctly.
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I know, but the machete image fits better with my feelings toward Touchwiz.
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I know, but the machete image fits better with my feelings toward Touchwiz.
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ditto.
ReActiveDisorder said:
Its a little more involved then that. Lots of AOSP/CM6 patches to replace the Touchwiz components. Piece by piece im riding the stock rom of Touchwiz. I had to compile and mingle code to get AOSP messaging working correctly.
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is it working with our LED's now?
yoyowhatup22 said:
is it working with our LED's now?
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This device is super unique when it comes to the LED lighting. NO other device has this kind of LED setup. So I have no device that is all AOSP to compile it from.
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ReActiveDisorder said:
This device is super unique when it comes to the LED lighting. NO other device has this kind of LED setup. So I have no device that is all AOSP to compile it from.
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thats what i figure. aosp tries to send a green LED signal out, and we have no green

When will th Charge get Jelly Bean?

So... When do you think we'll get the OTA???
KarateExplosion6 said:
So... When do you think we'll get the OTA???
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When pigs fly... The Cubs win the World Series... Hell freezes over... The Zombie Apocalypse happens.
kj1060 said:
When pigs fly... The Cubs win the World Series... Hell freezes over... The Zombie Apocalypse happens.
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Well... When the Galaxy 7.7 Tab for Verizon (which uses the same radio as the Charge) gets updated to ICS, the devs may be able to use the RIL to get data working on CM9. If that happens, then we may see Jelly Bean in the form of CM9.1. So, it's still possible. It just won't be an OTA.
We don't have a roadmap for ICS yet, so I believe the timetable for JB is pretty much "HAHAHAHA".
The Charge will see Jelly Bean when the moon has an atmosphere and is ready for settlement...
cujo6801 said:
Come on that's a little optimistic ...lol
Because we all know the government been building a secret base on the dark side of moon
For years now...
For the end of the world
Dec.21 2012....
SENT FROM THE DOG POUND
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You make a good point. Dec 21 is the end of the world...we need a harbinger. Jellybean on the Charge on Dec 20 seems like a good one...
I have given up optimistic about this phone. The only ones doing anything good for it are the devs which I am very thankful for.
KarateExplosion6 said:
Well... When the Galaxy 7.7 Tab for Verizon (which uses the same radio as the Charge) gets updated to ICS, the devs may be able to use the RIL to get data working on CM9. If that happens, then we may see Jelly Bean in the form of CM9.1. So, it's still possible. It just won't be an OTA.
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that would be SWEET
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Cilraaz said:
We don't have a roadmap for ICS yet, so I believe the timetable for JB is pretty much "HAHAHAHA".
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this.
I don't know, but JB is runny just fine and dandy on my VZW GNex
Same here.
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imnuts said:
I don't know, but JB is runny just fine and dandy on my VZW GNex
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pics or it didn't happen
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imnuts said:
I don't know, but JB is runny just fine and dandy on my VZW GNex
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I appreciate all the work you've done to keep the development going on the Charge, but that's kind of a douchey thing to say.
lpjunior999 said:
I appreciate all the work you've done to keep the development going on the Charge, but that's kind of a douchey thing to say.
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Now now..this is one of the last developers around don't talk non sense
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jager420 said:
Now now..this is one of the last developers around don't talk non sense
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imnuts sold his Charge... I'm pretty sure he's only developing for the Galaxy Nexus now.
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imnuts sold his Charge... I'm pretty sure he's only developing for the Galaxy Nexus now.
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So does that mean Dwitherell is the only developer we have left? We're stuck with the PB&J 0524 kernel? It's a good thing my phone is running good.
The US high courts have banned sales of the Nexus due to patent squabbles with Apple. Next Apple will probably go after the Galaxy SIII. I guess we should all just give up and go get ourselves an iPhone.
Would someone please point out where the light at the end of the tunnel is?
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So does that mean Dwitherell is the only developer we have left? We're stuck with the PB&J 0524 kernel? It's a good thing my phone is running good.
The US high courts have banned sales of the Nexus due to patent squabbles with Apple. Next Apple will probably go after the Galaxy SIII. I guess we should all just give up and go get ourselves an iPhone.
Would someone please point out where the light at the end of the tunnel is?
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#firstworldproblems
This patent crap is going to come to a head soon and is overdue for reform worldwide. It is astounding what can be patented today. It has to stop.
Still Charged Up
Reilly1812 said:
This patent crap is going to come to a head soon and is overdue for reform worldwide. It is astounding what can be patented today. It has to stop.
Still Charged Up
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I agree. It really seems like the basis for some of these injunctions are as generic as patenting a keyboard as "a horizontal surface with the letters and numbers arranged in an arbitrary fashion with the purpose of providing an input to a software system". Maybe there is more to it than I realize, but I don't understand how some of these things hold up.
I mean, wasn't one of Apple's complaints with Touchwiz the square icons?
It wouldn't be so maddening if it weren't so hypocritical. Look at ios 4, 5, and 6 and compare them to Froyo
ios 4: Look, now you have folders and multitasking. Aren't we innovative?
ios 5: Look at our game changing notifications bar, wireless syncing, and voice commands! You can even share items from other apps on Twitter and Twitter only!
ios 6: Now you can share things on Facebook too! INNOVATION!
I mean, I don't care that Apple incorporates solid features into their phones just like I don't care if/when Android incorporates solid ios features into the OS. But the hypocrisy to be like (read this in the comic book guy from The Simpson's voice) "we're all innovative and stuff and you guys are just stealing our ideas so we're going to sue you" is frustrating.
I don't see how its gone so far as to not be interpreted by the courts as a limiting of competition type scenario, but I don't claim to be well versed enough in the laws to make a real argument about it. My frustrations are largely in principle.
Here's some interesting reading about all the crappy stuff industries and governments do. I've been reading it for a few years now. It's pretty sickening.
http://www.techdirt.com/
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stueycaster said:
So does that mean Dwitherell is the only developer we have left? We're stuck with the PB&J 0524 kernel? It's a good thing my phone is running good.
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from my understanding, IMNUTS primarily developed the kernels for the charge. I have not really heard of anyone else aside from Tonsit (but I haven't heard from Tonsit since his initial release of FP1 PBJ).
Dwith just develops the tweaked ROM, and does a damn good job of that too.
I suspect that if there is a VZW update to the charge, someone will come out of the woodworks with something for us. but otherwise, I'm quite content with tweaked to the point where I'm not even thinking about ICS or Jelly Bean or Key Lime Pie...

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