Why isn't it on the new GB ROMs? From what I (thought I) understand, it only worked on Gingerbread and that's why we couldn't have it on Froyo.. Is there a difference between AOSP GB and the GB we have now (non-CM7)?
Sorry if it's a stupid question
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Why isn't it on the new GB ROMs? From what I (thought I) understand, it only worked on Gingerbread and that's why we couldn't have it on Froyo.. Is there a difference between AOSP GB and the GB we have now (non-CM7)?
Sorry if it's a stupid question
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No question is a stupid question I was disappointed myself when I realized the animations weren't in the leak we received.. but it's probably just due to HTC not including the animations due to sense
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that's got to be the most terrible thing I've ever heard
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No question is a stupid question I was disappointed myself when I realized the animations weren't in the leak we received.. but it's probably just due to HTC not including the animations due to sense
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... Honestly it's a leak... I honestly wouldn't expect everything on a leak software. They may add it back in the future when it's near completion or at the end of completion. Maybe there was a bug happening and we got the leak it was removed to help troubleshoot if it was that or something else.
Kinda miss this from my DX. Hoped it would be on this but...
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... Honestly it's a leak... I honestly wouldn't expect everything on a leak software. They may add it back in the future when it's near completion or at the end of completion. Maybe there was a bug happening and we got the leak it was removed to help troubleshoot if it was that or something else.
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I agree with this here. HTC has to strip probably as much as they can or else sense plus extra GB features would slow the phone down considerably. Just my two cents.
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Fwiw I don't believe any Htc leak has the animation(nexus excluded). I doubt we'll see it straight from Htc.
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... Honestly it's a leak... I honestly wouldn't expect everything on a leak software. They may add it back in the future when it's near completion or at the end of completion. Maybe there was a bug happening and we got the leak it was removed to help troubleshoot if it was that or something else.
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Samsung, moto and htc official GB builds don't have it. The thing is sammy and moto have the code in services.jar but its disabled in framework so all they have to do is make a simple edit. On HTC builds (like on Desire HD) they have to add the code in services.jar manually. So HTC is leaving it out for some reason and its not because it would "slow down" the phone. It is disappointing though. These are such light and cool-looking additions that set GB apart, wish we would see them in Sense as well. Damn HTC...
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Chingy has added them into his latest beta IV and its wonderful. I loved them on CM7 for my Inc, it's awesome they're on sense roms now.
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Chingy has added them into his latest beta IV and its wonderful. I loved them on CM7 for my Inc, it's awesome they're on sense roms now.
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really?? i just flashed this so hopefully it'll work for me
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Samsung, moto and htc official GB builds don't have it. The thing is sammy and moto have the code in services.jar but its disabled in framework so all they have to do is make a simple edit. On HTC builds (like on Desire HD) they have to add the code in services.jar manually. So HTC is leaving it out for some reason and its not because it would "slow down" the phone. It is disappointing though. These are such light and cool-looking additions that set GB apart, wish we would see them in Sense as well. Damn HTC...
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I never said because it would slow the phone. I am saying it was disabled possibly to reduce a bug until they can correct and test before putting out back on. Until more leaks come out or until we get their final release we will not know if we will have it or not.
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Chingy has added them into his latest beta IV and its wonderful. I loved them on CM7 for my Inc, it's awesome they're on sense roms now.
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Was going to post this. It was an awesome surprise when I first noticed it!
it was purposely removed by HTC, but who knows why. all new HTC phones like the Desire S that come with Gingerbread also do not have the cool CRT animation.
even the samsung Galaxy s2 which comes with gingerbread does not have the animation. samsung removed it. this is totally stupid as the animation fits superbly with the platform and should be common to all devices. android needs to come together and be consistent, not fragment further. and such a cool little addition has no downsides, so why remove it...
I agree I don't see why these damn manufacturers cannot give us these little things that we really enjoy. That animation is iconic and should always be on every Android device that has Gingerbread, and beyond.
Related
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/04/mytouch-4g-gingerbread-update-coming-soon/
Can't wait, new roms will hopefully come in droves after this
cool..too bad I've been using gingerbread for the past couple of months now! So far so good!
Damn it, you beat me to it!
Well, 2Q 2011 ended 11 days ago. I'll believe it when I see it. Actually, I won't ever see it because I'm now using Virtuous Unity. Hot stuff I tell you. And it doesn't have all the pre-loaded crapware T-Mobile adds into the ROM.
The Nexus One spoiled me. I tried to keep my MT4G stock as long as possible. I'm surprised I made it 6 months on the stock MT4G ROM. Once you root and flash a gazillion different ROMs, stock is definitely and simply boring.
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Well, 2Q 2011 ended 11 days ago. I'll believe it when I see it. Actually, I won't ever see it because I'm now using Virtuous Unity. Hot stuff I tell you. And it doesn't have all the pre-loaded crapware T-Mobile adds into the ROM.
The Nexus One spoiled me. I tried to keep my MT4G stock as long as possible. I'm surprised I made it 6 months on the stock MT4G ROM. Once you root and flash a gazillion different ROMs, stock is definitely and simply boring.
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i agree i got it too and its the best rom i have ever used i dont think im gonna go to another one
I saw on engaget today that the new MT4G slide will have gingerbread, sense 3.0 and some sort of new slick camera software. Curious if we'll get the same rom or not...
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I saw on engaget today that the new MT4G slide will have gingerbread, sense 3.0 and some sort of new slick camera software. Curious if we'll get the same rom or not...
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Hahahaha! Keep dreamin. Don't forget that the doubleshot has more than twice the processing power of the glacier. Sense 2.1 was already pushing it with the bloatware T-mobile added. Sense 3.0 is even worse.
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I saw on engaget today that the new MT4G slide will have gingerbread, sense 3.0 and some sort of new slick camera software. Curious if we'll get the same rom or not...
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Of course not the hardware on that thing is the same as Sensation....We get Espresso, check out the leaked GB ROM for our phones, that's what we're getting. There's a doubleshot rom from the MT4GS here too if you wanna taste of 3.0 on that phone. Ginger for us will look just like froyo, no fancy 3D effects for older single core phones.
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Of course not the hardware on that thing is the same as Sensation....We get Espresso, check out the leaked GB ROM for our phones, that's what we're getting. There's a doubleshot rom from the MT4GS here too if you wanna taste of 3.0 on that phone. Ginger for us will look just like froyo, no fancy 3D effects for older single core phones.
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You are correct. The Gingerbread leak from early May looks identical to 2.2.1. The only big change/addition was the inclusion of the Quick Settings tab in the notification pulldown. I believe the leaked build had Sense 2.1. Pretty much going to have to rely on XDA if you want Sense 3.0 on your MT4G.
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I never FULLY realized how bad sense was, but this weekend I played around with a sensation and it is horribly laggy. My cyanogen glacier blows it out of the water. Even things like un locking the phone produced noticeable lag
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I never FULLY realized how bad sense was, but this weekend I played around with a sensation and it is horribly laggy. My cyanogen glacier blows it out of the water. Even things like un locking the phone produced noticeable lag
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I rooted and loaded Virtuous Unity last night. It uses sense 3.0 and it's smooth as silk.
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I rooted and loaded Virtuous Unity last night. It uses sense 3.0 and it's smooth as silk.
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Its not slow like the sensations stock ROM through, it has many changes, if we use the stock sensation Rom it would be laggy.
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I've been testing the Gingerbread update and was going to post some screenshots, but apparently I need to have at least 8 posts before I can do so per the rules of the forums here.
I don't want to spam the forums here to hit some limit, but when I hit the magical 8 posts, I'll submit a post with images of the update.
So if i were to unroot to check out the update when its released i would have to root a completly different way? I had to gfree cause of the locked bootloader on the mt4g that i bought. Since my phone has the "bad emmc" I was thinking that using stock for a couple months til the phone dies would be a safe gamble.
What gingerbread update your talking about? We haven't got an ota, just the leak.
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I've been testing the Gingerbread update and was going to post some screenshots, but apparently I need to have at least 8 posts before I can do so per the rules of the forums here.
I don't want to spam the forums here to hit some limit, but when I hit the magical 8 posts, I'll submit a post with images of the update.
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What gingerbread update your talking about? We haven't got an ota, just the leak.
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Read the link in the op.
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Read the link in the op.
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I know what the thread is about. You may wanna read my question again.
Again, the question is whether joedonh is from tmo and thats how he is testing the upgrade or whether he is working on leaked version which everyone here has access to. Later is most likely not the case but just want to confirm.
Some Tmo employees have been selected to test the official GB rom. I imagine it is just as bad as the froyo build. it is still a "stock" rom so i am sure it is full of bloatware...
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I know what the thread is about. You may wanna read my question again.
Again, the question is whether joedonh is from tmo and thats how he is testing the upgrade or whether he is working on leaked version which everyone here has access to. Later is most likely not the case but just want to confirm.
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If he is an employee with T-mobile then he'd be breaking the NDA that they have to sign when getting phones or updates before the public. It's also against T-mobile policy. I wouldn't take the chance of it getting back to T-mobile and losing my job to show off a screen shot.
Soooooo, ever since the release of the nexus galaxy sporting the new adroid 4.0, i wondered, will we get the update, and if not, is there a way to replicate the look of the deivice theme wise,i love the way it looks!
HTC has not confirmed nor denied the Inspire will be getting ICS. I'd bet not, and if we do it will take a LONG time, or one of the devs here will port it.
In the mean time, if you head over to the Android Development and Hacking section, and check out the Android Themes sub-forum there are a lot of different launchers and themes with ICS flavoring.
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HTC has not confirmed nor denied the Inspire will be getting ICS. I'd bet not, and if we do it will take a LONG time, or one of the devs here will port it.
In the mean time, if you head over to the Android Development and Hacking section, and check out the Android Themes sub-forum there are a lot of different launchers and themes with ICS flavoring.
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I agree with him on the themes portion. There are MANY themes that are ICS, and many of them work well, and look VERY smooth.
Concerning ICS and the HTC Inspire. Looking at the specifications of the Galaxy Nexus, the Inspire has the internal components that can handle ICS. The processor for the Inspire is faster than the Galaxy, and so on. The only difference between the two is that the Inspire has dedicated soft keys on the home screen, whereas the Galaxy Nexus will have the home screen buttons as part of ICS itself.
Also, after talking to HTC, they're currently looking into how they can roll out ICS updates for as many phones as possible. I also read somewhere that most of, if not all, 2.3 phones WILL receive the update. Until then, continue looking at the forums and wait until a recognized developer ports to Inspire. Hope this helps!
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The processor for the Inspire is faster than the Galaxy,
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Not sure where you got your information from but this isn't even close to be correct.
But, I'm sure we will see ICS on the Inspire fairly soon after Google releases the source. Whether its from the CM team or a different dev.
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I agree with him on the themes portion. There are MANY themes that are ICS, and many of them work well, and look VERY smooth.
Concerning ICS and the HTC Inspire. Looking at the specifications of the Galaxy Nexus, the Inspire has the internal components that can handle ICS. The processor for the Inspire is faster than the Galaxy, and so on. The only difference between the two is that the Inspire has dedicated soft keys on the home screen, whereas the Galaxy Nexus will have the home screen buttons as part of ICS itself.
Also, after talking to HTC, they're currently looking into how they can roll out ICS updates for as many phones as possible. I also read somewhere that most of, if not all, 2.3 phones WILL receive the update. Until then, continue looking at the forums and wait until a recognized developer ports to Inspire. Hope this helps!
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I wish all we had to worry abut was when HTC was gonna release it but we have to wait for ATT as it will be them that finally releases an official release for our phones. It may not happen and we will have to use a port from the DHD which only has to wait for the HTC
thank yoiu alll! and i didnt know we could go to the general android theme section and use themes from there lol, i thought we had to use the themes in our designated section only
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Soooooo, ever since the release of the nexus galaxy sporting the new adroid 4.0, i wondered, will we get the update, and if not, is there a way to replicate the look of the deivice theme wise,i love the way it looks!
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nope no update for the inspire (or dhd)
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-developers/ShsH+(xda-developers)&utm_content
theme away..
That's a bummer. I've got 2 years before I can upgrade again. Its going to be a long wait.
Well they're already working on a port for the dhd, but I've heard that it doesn't work on the inspire but there's still a very good chance that we'll get sometime in the near future.
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Well they're already working on a port for the dhd, but I've heard that it doesn't work on the inspire but there's still a very good chance that we'll get sometime in the near future.
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Where did you see this? I'd like to keep tabs on it.
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Where did you see this? I'd like to keep tabs on it.
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The desire HD forum
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Who cares about official support? CM9 will be out as soon as the source hits and we'll all have it.
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Who cares about official support? CM9 will be out as soon as the source hits and we'll all have it.
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I do lol there are issues with cm roms that prevent me from using it as a daily. But if we don't get it then ill just have to wait lol
Biggest problem with CM Roms is battery. Only thing I miss about sense Roms is not having to charge halfway through the day.
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Biggest problem with CM Roms is battery. Only thing I miss about sense Roms is not having to charge halfway through the day.
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Ok hmm thats odd as CM based roms do seem to have better battery then sense roms. I can get through a full day of normal use without charging.
Same here. Get a good day with CM9
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Same here. Get a good day with CM9
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Do you mean cm7
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No he means 9 he is running the ics beta
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I have MUCH better battery on miui or CM than ever had on a Sense rom!
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Found this on HTC's side, it's being reported on Droid-life, as well:
http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/?cid=android4blog
They are claiming July-August for ICS. I'll believe it when I see it.
They did say earlier this year it would be near the end of q3 when they pushed the ota out. I would say if they are honestly trying to get the update out then it will be at the end of august or later. They almost always delay by 2 months usually.
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I know there is no actual for this, but, is there an about time frame for leaks before they release official? I guess I mean, is it feasible to say that there may be a leak by the end of June? I know, purely speculation. But fun to guess.
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There is no way to know that because if we get a leak then we get a leak. The only way we can get a leak is if someone puts it out there for us.
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Awesome, only four months before I get a new phone lol....better late than never I suppose.....praying for leaks with working ril that's all the devs need!
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That's what I'm waiting for, the leaks to start rolling out. All it takes is one good one!
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I've accepted it will never be here. Same with my SGT10.1
It will be here, but stock 4.0 aosp just aint that great imo. With sense, maybe
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I played around with sense 3.6 and ics on a tmobile phone (sensation maybe?? Lol I dont remember -_-) and it wasn't much different than sense 3.5 with a couple additions. Althoigh I do like how the folders open ))
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It will be here, but stock 4.0 aosp just aint that great imo. With sense, maybe
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Man, I disagree wholeheartedly. Stock ICS blows any of our roms out of the water...in power management and usability. Add in the features in, say, AOKP and wrap it up in Apex Launcher and it's pretty much the best mobile experience I can imagine.
If only that Nexus I had for a month got better reception...loved the software.
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Man, I disagree wholeheartedly. Stock ICS blows any of our roms out of the water...in power management and usability. Add in the features in, say, AOKP and wrap it up in Apex Launcher and it's pretty much the best mobile experience I can imagine.
If only that Nexus I had for a month got better reception...loved the software.
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How do you get that with no ril? Been runnin it on wifes dinc for 5 months, it all works, pretty smooth, but not fantastic
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Is it me or does the Thunderbolt feel completely abandoned by developers?
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Yep no jellybean for us yet. JB makes ics seem as slow as am ibm pcjr. We should demand HTC give us JB instead of ics
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Developers need an ICS leak to make anything new, how many GB ROMs do you want? As far as the CM9 RIL has proved to be a huge problem. So no, developers still have Thunderbolts they just need something new to work with, instead of pointing fingers at them, point them at HTC.
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While it's not the fault of the dev's, we have been forgotten. The thunderbolt is unfortunately old news and most likely won't have much more activity until we get ICS/JB.
Its more like HTC doesn't give a crap about our phones anymore. It's unacceptable that they haven't put out an update sooner.
I'm still here!
Most phones were forgotten (or stagnated) on Verizon when the Nexus came out. Anyone who didn't see that coming was just a tad short-sided.
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Most phones were forgotten (or stagnated) on Verizon when the Nexus came out. Anyone who didn't see that coming was just a tad short-sided.
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Sounds more like people just using us and then throwing us away when the next hot thing comes out...
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Let me tell you the gnex didn't do much for me. Should have never gotten rid of my thunderbolt.
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Let me tell you the gnex didn't do much for me. Should have never gotten rid of my thunderbolt.
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The reason why I'll only buy nexus phones now
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The Thunderbolt is dead; it has been for awhile. I can't wait for my GS3! Verizon needs to ship those babies soon!
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It's not dead for me yet. Still waiting for the end of July / August for HTC to actually produce something. There's been beta testing supposedly but no leak.
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Dont blame only HTC. Verizon is also to blame... and VZW is historically known for not providing too many updates.
I dont expect any additional development until ICS is "officially" released for the TBolt.
I dont believe we'll ever see an official release of JB for our phones.
im building a rom off of cm7 now . RomZombie.
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Dont blame only HTC. Verizon is also to blame... and VZW is historically known for not providing too many updates.
I dont expect any additional development until ICS is "officially" released for the TBolt.
I dont believe we'll ever see an official release of JB for our phones.
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Kinda gotta blame HTC tho, cuz a leak is just as good to me as Verizon's "official" release. Its the ril that is necessary, u get that n the rest is history -_-
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is the thunderbolt even supposed to get official ics?
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is the thunderbolt even supposed to get official ics?
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Yea supposedly this month or next.
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Bionic already has 4 ICS leaks...and blame HTC. Anyway, the Incredible S (GSM Dinc 2) got ICS today. Here's the thing - the Thunderbolt was replaced by the Rezound a long time ago, and it's honestly not that great of a phone anyway. It was the first LTE phone, but the specs were far behind other phones that came out before it. It will be nice when it finally does get ICS (and it will, but remember the 2.3.4 update took a very long time as well), but most people (like me) who bought this phone will have already moved on, or be well on their way to a better phone by the time it finally is released. As far as being forgotten by developers - not forgotten, but they have moved on to better phones. The Thunderbolt is old hat - 1Ghz Snapdragon w/ 768MB RAM, the developers have moved on to better things, for the most part.
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Developers need an ICS leak to make anything new, how many GB ROMs do you want? As far as the CM9 RIL has proved to be a huge problem. So no, developers still have Thunderbolts they just need something new to work with, instead of pointing fingers at them, point them at HTC.
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That and point really at Google for.this messed up veal they allow which is so stupid. We need to stop overlays on android and have the same user experence as any other device a unified way. On touch six.you select wick widget it brings up any available wick if one is not already selected on sense and stock that does not happen. Not a great user way here.
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Pretty sure specs weren't far behind anything when the tbolt came out. If you're this concerned sell it and buy a bionic. Go to craigslist, they are cheap.
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Does this mean use tbolt users will not get it? I mean come on...our phone are based from on the Desire HD
Check this out
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-desire-hd-stay-current-software-no-ics-update
And if u guys go into the Desire HD forum , there is a petition ... Go sign it!
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Does this mean use tbolt users will not get it? I mean come on...our phone are based from on the Desire HD
Check this out
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-desire-hd-stay-current-software-no-ics-update
And if u guys go into the Desire HD forum , there is a petition ... Go sign it!
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I highly doubt it will affect Thunderbolt users, so I wouldn't really worry about it.
Besides, they REALLY owe it to us. Haha.
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Same hardware as desire hd, don't be surprised when they cancel this too.
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Didn't HTC already confirm the TB for an upgrade?
HTC didn't cancel the Desire update, Canadian carrier Tellus canceled it due to bad performance. Even with Tellus jumping the gun and canceling the update, HTC has said it would move forward with developing updates for all Desire models.
Quite frankly this is a big part of the problem, instead of the carrier pushing HTC to do better and not accepting failure, they decided to screw their customers.
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Seems like we at still officially on. They updated it with the desire crossed out, but thunderbolt still showing
http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
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I hope Verizon does not cop out like these guys did... I really want 4.0 or help, for get ICS how about some jelly bean? That project butter is badass its faster and smoother then my buddies iPhone4s ,any good builds for jellybean yet? With all working radios etc... Cause if we don't get ICS soon...I'm just gonna root...
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I hope Verizon does not cop out like these guys did... I really want 4.0 or help, for get ICS how about some jelly bean? That project butter is badass its faster and smoother then my buddies iPhone4s ,any good builds for jellybean yet? With all working radios etc... Cause if we don't get ICS soon...I'm just gonna root...
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Not for the Thunderbolt. Everything that doesn't have to do with the radios works as devs are still waiting on RIL.
vader540is said:
I hope Verizon does not cop out like these guys did... I really want 4.0 or help, for get ICS how about some jelly bean? That project butter is badass its faster and smoother then my buddies iPhone4s ,any good builds for jellybean yet? With all working radios etc... Cause if we don't get ICS soon...I'm just gonna root...
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The Thunderbolt will most likely never see jellybean. We are lucky enough to be considered for ICS
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I personally don't think jellybean is going to run worth a crap in this phone. The vsyncing that was thrown in jellybean is resource intensive and I don't think the hardware of the thunderbolt can handle that. Ics will run good I'm sure but jellybean throws a wrench into things because of vsync timers.
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Wouldn't devs just be able to disable the VSync feature? I mean, CM has a lot of under-the-hood tweaks. I'm sure with full source they'll be able to port forward the ICS code, worst case. I can't imagine 4.0 to 4.1 as being anything but incremental.
That vsync feature is one of the things that makes jellybean great because the phones that can handle it and can utilize that feature will see great improvements to the smoothness of the ui.
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Way I see it, if Verizon decides to **** block ICS for us, they owe us a free upgrade. People talk about getting better phones just by *****ing... This would be more of a reason imho... Paired with some aforementioned *****ing, that is.
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Dannar said:
Way I see it, if Verizon decides to **** block ICS for us, they owe us a free upgrade.
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Thanks, that's the funniest thing I've read today... oh, wait, you were serious?
Looks like ICS may NOT come to the T'bolt and, as we all should know by now, if we don't get a T'bolt ICS the devs can't make ROMs for us.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/0...-cream-sandwich-update-officially-in-trouble/
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Thanks, that's the funniest thing I've read today... oh, wait, you were serious?
Looks like ICS may NOT come to the T'bolt and, as we all should know by now, if we don't get a T'bolt ICS the devs can't make ROMs for us.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/0...-cream-sandwich-update-officially-in-trouble/
Sorry.....
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That article adds no new information and is just speculation. Regrettably I tend to agree with what it's saying, but it's not like someone dropped the other shoe. Hopefully we'll at least get a leak with a working ril, even if HTC decides to puss out on us too.
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animez said:
Hopefully we'll at least get a leak with a working ril, even if HTC decides to puss out on us too.
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Unless HTC and VZW release ICS for the T'bolt there can't be a leak with a working ril, can there? Any ril that works for the T'bolt would exist ONLY in a T'bolt ICS release unless a dev can build an ril from scratch?
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Unless HTC and VZW release ICS for the T'bolt there can't be a leak with a working ril, can there? Any ril that works for the T'bolt would exist ONLY in a T'bolt ICS release unless a dev can build an ril from scratch?
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If we get a leak it will have the ril we need and the kernel too.
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If we get a leak it will have the ril we need and the kernel too.
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Agreed but there won't be a leak if HTC and VZW don't create a ROM. The rumored soak test has produced no leak so far, I heard (who knows if it's true or not?) that the NDA had sufficient teeth in it that none of the testers would leak it.... so *IF* the soak test really happened or is happening then we can believe in one hell of an NDA because there is no leak AFAIK.
FWIW, I really don't care much, HTC's website says IF the T'bolt gets ICS it'll have Sense 3.6 and will NOT get sense 4.x because of performance issues and that makes me think two things:
1. The T'bolt really doesn't have the horsepower to run ICS with Sense 4.x and so
2. We're better off with a good ROM and Gingerbread than we will be with ICS.
However, I can upgrade in... well, never. So.... I'll keep running my current ROM(s) and see what happens and what shows up on Ebay!
If Desire HD can't handle ICS, what's with the Desire C??
Well,.....I call BS on the Desire HD or the Thunderbolt not being able to handle ICS or Sense 4.0.
It's clearly a marketing strategy to sell new devices and nothing more.
If it were true that the Desire HD could not run ICS and Sense 4.0 acceptably, then why in God's name would HTC be releasing the Desire C?
Has anyone checked out the specs on that ICS Sense 4.0 device?
CHECK IT OUT
So yeah, I call BS!!!!
That desire c is really low end hardware but yet can run the newest software. Definitely a marketing strategy on htc's part by not giving us the best software. Our phones are more than capable of running it. Another example is the one v. Same specs as ours
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