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Firstly i really love Atrix2. and i love the TFT display. i always hate the AMOLED ro Super AMOLED or SAP , because the AMOLEDs are colors distortion too much.
But now, the Atrix2 display color is too dark ,even i adjusted the brightness to 100%. there still something like the <dark grey> became to <black>, also the <dark blue> became to <black>, all the colors are too dark!
i took some photos and videos by Atrix2, and they are looks so bad on the phone, when i copied them to the PC then they are looks very beautiful and the colors are very true.
I particularly like this phone excepted the display. i'm so disappointed, yes the RGB pixel lets the texts looks much better, actually the brightness is enough too, but just all the colors are too dark.
i don't want to change another phone, i don't like Samsung or HTC.
So can someone fix this display problem? i'll appreciate that.
gigii said:
Firstly i really love Atrix2. and i love the TFT display. i always hate the AMOLED ro Super AMOLED or SAP , because the AMOLEDs are colors distortion too much.
But now, the Atrix2 display color is too dark ,even i adjusted the brightness to 100%. there still something like the <dark grey> became to <black>, also the <dark blue> became to <black>, all the colors are too dark!
i took some photos and videos by Atrix2, and they are looks so bad on the phone, when i copied them to the PC then they are looks very beautiful and the colors are very true.
I particularly like this phone excepted the display. i'm so disappointed, yes the RGB pixel lets the texts looks much better, actually the brightness is enough too, but just all the colors are too dark.
i don't want to change another phone, i don't like Samsung or HTC.
So can someone fix this display problem? i'll appreciate that.
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Wow, first report I've heard of this - I would take it back and exchange it - compare it to ones in store at least. For me, it looks brilliant and bright - outdoors even better than iPhone 4.
Yeah mines been great in that department. "almost" bright as Samsungs SMOLED.
I pitted my up against a SGS II in the store and I believe the blues are brighter on the SGS II. However the A2 is just slightly less brighter than the SGS II. The blacks are super black and the other colors pop nicely. I think my display is on the warmer side compared the cooler side of the SGS II. However I have zero complaints with my display. I keep my display on 0% brightness at the work place and it looks just fine.
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I pitted my up against a SGS II in the store and I believe the blues are brighter on the SGS II. However the A2 is just slightly less brighter than the SGS II. The blacks are super black and the other colors pop nicely. I think my display is on the warmer side compared the cooler side of the SGS II. However I have zero complaints with my display. I keep my display on 0% brightness at the work place and it looks just fine.
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Actually mine is doing the same. Take for example I was watching Iron Man 2 and the race track scenes were perfect, FANTASTIC. But the scenes where it was dark were HORRIBLE. The night scenes from any video are really bad.
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Actually mine is doing the same. Take for example I was watching Iron Man 2 and the race track scenes were perfect, FANTASTIC. But the scenes where it was dark were HORRIBLE. The night scenes from any video are really bad.
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Yes i think we got same point. the dark scenes and night scenes are very bad. it could be the display contrast is too high.
Its really annoying if its like gigii says so. But still some people think that as bright as samsung amoled.
Confused.....
b520iverson said:
Its really annoying if its like gigii says so. But still some people think that as bright as samsung amoled.
Confused.....
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It is super bright. I just watched the International. All the scenes popped and were perfect. I could see every detail. Even the night scenes were great because there were lots of night lights. Then there was a night scene inside the back of a car with a black interior. That same video on my old Ipod 3rd gen touch you could see all the details of the seat etc... inside the car. On the Atrix 2 it was so bad it was like they floated in black.
Now the deal is I would rather have the Atrix for sure. I love the super high rez and accept the trade off for super dark scenes. Nothing is perfect and I love this phone. grrrrrr
Don't worry. The Atrix 1 screen is just as bad, if not worse. It's black crush is *horrid*.
I think the screen is great looking if not doing anything dependent on perfect color. Text is extremely crisp and most stuff looks nice if it isnt dark.
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Wow, first report I've heard of this - I would take it back and exchange it - compare it to ones in store at least. For me, it looks brilliant and bright - outdoors even better than iPhone 4.
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please tell me more about atrix 2 display
at compare with iphone 4 or other smartphone ?
i a, atrix 4g user and dont love it so much . however its good too . but not great !?
how about atrix 2 !??
thx
Don't complain too much, the sgs 2 screen maybe bright but its blurry when compared to qhd of atrix 2. I still kinda miss the screen
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As far as I know,this Atrix2 has some problem abt display in dark scenes.
sigh.
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I think the screen is great looking if not doing anything dependent on perfect color. Text is extremely crisp and most stuff looks nice if it isnt dark.
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I love the screen
The Atrix 2 does not have a pentile display like the Atrix 4G did. Therefore, it is far improved for certain colors such as green, yellow and black.
However, a true black is difficult for LCDs of any variety. The color on the Atrix 2 is not as vivid when compared to other phones, especially the SGS series, however it should be noted that when you get down to it, the colors on the SGS line are actually overly vibrant, and as such are indeed further from the *true* color of whatever it is you are looking at VS the Atrix 2.
This is determined by doing color tests, however tests are really BS, because its more about taste than anything else.
As to the Atrix 2 having a hard time with dark scenes, I have not experienced this to the degree described in the thread. I find the screen to be quite vivid, blacks / dark screens included. Even at low brightness it seems far improved over the OG Atrix.
The iPhone 4 series has a better color definition in MY opinion, however when I tested it against a color test, it was not as true as the Atrix 2, being slightly over vivid.
I'd recommend exchanging your A2 for a different one given the description of the problem, as I have issued 70 of these things out to company employees and never seen one be as bad as what is described.
I got the point of gigii.
You see, it's NOT about the backlight being too dark, it's the color contrast itself. Try getting another android phone, let's say, a Motorola Defy. Do NOT compare with any AMOLED/SUPER AMOLED.
Try installing yahoo messenger app. I chose to compare this coz you'll see the obvious difference with the color.
You will notice that the color purple is DARKER in Atrix 2 compared to any other phones.
I think this is intentional as the display would look more vivid given that you have proper backlighting. All colors have darker shades. This would actually "fool" us on having better color contrast. Some may not notice it but if you have another phone to compare to (a TFT LCD unit perhaps) then you would know.
been meaning to try this ought to do the trick.rooted phones only!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366280
try this app to view your picture :
"Perfect Viewer" , it can immediately apply gamma correction when browseing picture.
set gamma 1.1~1.3 is helpful.
I still can not find a video player app which can provide gamma correction function.
Any one suggest ?
Besides, I also use "Screen Adjuster" to increase color temperature because I feel the white color is too yellow. (set Blue value15~20)
I keep my brightness at the lowest for battery life, looks good to me.
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been meaning to try this ought to do the trick.rooted phones only!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366280
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This doesn't work for our phones.
The OP said it only works for samsung phones, but I tried it any ways =P. No luck.
My atrix 2 screen is very dark/black in shadows when looking at photos, compared to other phones when viewing the same photo the atrix 2 has no shadow detail, ive installed screen adjuster and lowered the contrast and its a bit better but that also makes the overall screen colour less vibrant (pale) any one else having this issue? Im on ICS leak but was the same on stock GB
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My atrix 2 screen is very dark/black in shadows when looking at photos, compared to other phones when viewing the same photo the atrix 2 has no shadow detail, ive installed screen adjuster and lowered the contrast and its a bit better but that also makes the overall screen colour less vibrant (pale) any one else having this issue? Im on ICS leak but was the same on stock GB
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The Atrix 2 does not have a pentile display like the Atrix 4G did. Therefore, it is far improved for certain colors such as green, yellow and black. However, a true black is difficult for LCDs of any variety. The color on the Atrix 2 is not as vivid when compared to other phones, especially the SGS series, however it should be noted that when you get down to it, the colors on the SGS line are actually overly vibrant, and as such are indeed further from the *true* color of whatever it is you are looking at vs. the Atrix 2. This is determined by doing color tests, however tests are really BS, because it's more about personal taste than anything else.
As to the Atrix 2 having a hard time with dark scenes, I have not experienced this to the degree you mentioned. I find the screen to be quite vivid, blacks/dark screens included. Even at low brightness it seems far improved over the OG Atrix. Other phones may have a better color definition in someone's opinion, however when tested against a color test, most are not as true as the Atrix 2, being slightly over vivid. I'd recommend exchanging your A2 for a different one given the description of the problem, assuming you have warranty or have recently purchased the A2, and are able to do so...
Thanks for your reply, i do like the screen apart from this issue, browsing and in the menus the screen is really nice, but when looking at photos they look un realistic (far to much contrast, black shadows) i dont think my hand set is faulty, i have seen a few others on a google search with this issue, it puts me off this phone, might sell it and get something else.
As the OP pointed out that yes there are a lot of people who echo this issue where any low light pic / videos are really dark to view despite full brightness maxxed of the display and I fully echo this too.
What really puzzled me was that I u/s HTC Evo 3D has exactly the same display tech spec as the Atrix 2 but when I compared my pals Evo 3D display against mine, HTC seems glorious to look at when viewing the display. Wonder what gives??
OP - what did you use to control contrast on your device? Also anyone if any 3rd party display control apps (incldng rooted) that could be advised of?
I just want to know if you satisfied with the One S pentile matrix screen. I have a Sam S2 and recently bought a One S (S3 chipset) and i noticed the lcd is very pixelated (if its a real word, sry for my English) compared with the S2's screen. Its not too bad but noticeable and a bit disappointing. How you live with this?
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I just want to know if you satisfied with the One S pentile matrix screen. I have a Sam S2 and recently bought a One S (S3 chipset) and i noticed the lcd is very pixelated (if its a real word, sry for my English) compared with the S2's screen. Its not too bad but noticeable and a bit disappointing. How you live with this?
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By not being incredibly picky. The phone wasn't cheap, so before I signed a contract, I made sure I was happy with every aspect of the phone. While I do agree it's pixelated, and that my Sensation had slightly better quality, I am incredibly happy with the screen. I'm rarely centimeters away from the screen so I can live with it especially because the color reproduction is amazing.
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I just want to know if you satisfied with the One S pentile matrix screen. I have a Sam S2 and recently bought a One S (S3 chipset) and i noticed the lcd is very pixelated (if its a real word, sry for my English) compared with the S2's screen. Its not too bad but noticeable and a bit disappointing. How you live with this?
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I think you just get used to it after a while. I couldn't stand the screen when I first got the phone, It stopped me using it regularly because I just used to get annoyed at the screen! (sad I know) But now I don't even think about the screen because I'm so used to it. I came from the Desire S which had a S-LCD display and a 480x800 display so that was a very good screen considering it was only 3.7 inches! I found the amoled colours of the one s to be extremely saturated. I didn't like the yellowish/blueish whites and the fact that every time you slightly changed the angle of the screen the colours would turn slightly blue. Text looked pixelated especially on a white background, that doesn't help considering a key part of sense 4 settings is all white background. It took me a good month to get used to the screen and 3 months in, I'm used to it Possibly getting the Nexus 4 soon so doubt I'll have much longer with this phone anyway.
Sorry for the little off topic might pickup a one s didn't want to start a new thread...
I saw the one s at my local fido store and damn its so snappy even whit sense !! But i tried the one x and it was somewhat slower is this normal ? Flicking through homescreens just werent the same..
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I did notice it some when I first got it, but I really don't anymore at all, and like was said above, I'm never close enough to my display to really notice it. I think the screen is incredible, as is every other aspect of the phone. I LOVE my One S.
I thought it would annoy me, but the phone was free so I decided to bite the bullet. I've had the phone 6 months now, and I really don't notice it at this point.
I love the one S display, sure the screen isn't as sharp as the GN, GS 3 and one X etc. and you don't get as much screen real estate but everything else is just as good, if not better:
- one of the best screens in sun light, don't even have to put my screen above 70% brightness in direct sun light in order to be able to make stuff out easily and this is on a darkish background too, MUCH better than the GN and GS 2 in this area
- colour reproduction is superb, my screen is pretty much perfect, whites are super white, brighter white than my dell u2311h, iirc a review site stated that the screen is better calibrated than the GS 3 SAMOLED screen
- no tinting at all on mine, usually with AMOLED screens you get a blue or yellow tint, which is noticeable at angles on whites but not on mine (this varies with every single screen though)
- of course blacks are black and the viewing angles are superb
- high contrast ratio etc. so games and videos look great
I only notice the pentile when looking at white text on black backgrounds and a few icons, but only when I really look for it and have my face pretty close to the screen. I find the one S screen to be sharper overall compared to the GS 2 screen.
I have had the one S beside the GS 2, GN and GS 3 and personally I didn't like the GS 2 screen at all, res. is too low so things are huge (felt like an old man using a phone designed for people with poor eye sight ), colours are far too saturated/warm. The GN screen is nice and sharp but the colours aren't saturated enough, rather dull over all and plus both phones are poor in comparison to the S for view ability in the sunshine. The GS 3 screen is great, better than the GN, however, I think the one S screen looks better for colours.
Anandtech more or less summed up my thoughts:
What’s different, however, is how well HTC has controlled the color temperature and gamma compared to Motorola in the RAZR. As shown in the HCFR galleries below, gamma is pretty close to 2.2 until you get to the high end, and color temperature is pretty close to 6500K, except at the two darkest grey points. This is so much better than any other OEM calibration of an AMOLED panel I’ve taken a look at, which is rather humorous because the panel is undoubtably Samsung’s. HTC is also letting the panel go pretty bright, up past 350 nits, instead of clamping it way down around 200 (I’m looking at you, Galaxy Nexus) to save power. I also haven’t noticed blacks not being totally off on the One S like I have with some others. Of course, colors are still massively oversaturated if your source color space is sRGB.
I’ve griped about PenTile RGBG before on this panel and other SAMOLED displays, but I find the One S to be completely enjoyable in spite of having it thanks to two things. First, how well HTC has controlled the panel (no awful hues, weird white points, or dramatic shifts as you change brightness) - this is basically the best I’ve seen this particular panel, and until SGS3, the best I’ve seen AMOLED in general. Second, because HTC doesn’t appear to be applying any processing that applies sharpening (like Samsung’s mDNIe) to text.
How you feel about PenTile really is the final factor: it’s there, but I’ve slowly become accustomed to it after staring at it for so long. If you go back to the Nexus S days, I was one of the most outspoken critics because of how large those subpixels were. With small enough subpixels (below visual acuity), PenTile starts to make sense. In other news, HTC moving back to Samsung AMOLED for phones is an interesting move after supply issues forced HTC to SLCD with some earlier phones, here on the HTC One S however, it looks great.
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My solution: Get old. You probably can't see all the minute issues you guys think matter, and you don't really care if you do. Every phone I've ever had has had a better screen than the previous and I think that's pretty nice.
I hate the screen, drives me nuts. I found that using a theme that mostly uses blacks and whites makes it more bearable though.
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I hate the screen, drives me nuts. I found that using a theme that mostly uses blacks and whites makes it more bearable though.
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Have to agree. Thing is apart from the screen it's a fantastic phone. It's so fast, battery life is great and the camera is great. I don't even think the screen would be that bad if it wasn't pentile it's just the fact that it's a pentile display it makes the phone look way more pixelated than it should be
I think I need to go to specsavers, I've never noticed a problem with the screen.
The screen on this is amazing. Don't notice any pixellation whilst on it . It's quite an improvement over my old Wildfires QVGA 3.5 inch 240x320 TFT display.
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If you switched from Wildfire you cant see this but if you had any phone in the alike pixel density and resolution you can see the difference. According to others opinion its not bad, the perfect color saturation, contrast etc will eliminate the bad feeling about those subpixels.
HTC does calibrate their screens nicely
I suppose it depends on what you're used to. When you come from an iPhone or high-end LCD-screen you probably will get annoyed with this display. However, when this is your first touchscreen smartphone or when you had a smartphone with a low-end display before this one, you will probably be able to cope with the slight pixilation.
Personally, even with this being my first touchscreen smartphone and coming from an E72 with a PPI of about 170, the display of this device would be the only reason for me to buy a One X or Nexus 4. That being said; you don't buy a smartphone solely for its display, you buy it for the complete package (price, battery, design, display, size, cpu/gpu, storage, support, OS, cloud integration etc.). And for me, the package the One S offers is more compelling than that of most other smartphones one the market.
I compared the One S screen to that of my Galaxy Nexus and honestly, when it comes to clarity, there isn't much of a difference. If you are in your twenties with near perfect eyesight and able to hold the phone less than a foot from your face then you will probably see pixelation but at normal distances it isn't an issue. For me it seems that anything above 250ppi is fine - my original Galaxy S was less (I think 233ppi) and that display was pixelated to me, but then again it was an earlier generation screen, I'm sure there have been other refinements besides resolution since then.
One S 256 PPI
Sam Galaxy S2 217 PPI but looks sharper.
Its all about the pixel placement, pentile matrix is a pattern. This matrix gives us better colors because more subpixels. Google for it there are many info i cant explain it in english
I come from an LG Optimus 2x, 4'' ips display, 800x480, and I feel this display better IMHO.
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gszabi said:
One S 256 PPI
Sam Galaxy S2 217 PPI but looks sharper.
Its all about the pixel placement, pentile matrix is a pattern. This matrix gives us better colors because more subpixels. Google for it there are many info i cant explain it in english
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I said Galaxy S, not S2.
Yes the S2 was/is superior despite the lower resolution thanks to the RGB arrangement (not pentile). The original Galaxy S was pentile, and not that great by today's standards.
It's okay, but I'm actually kind of unsatisfied with the blacks. I thought it would be completely black, but when I have a black picture shown on the phone in a completely dark room, the screen still lights up
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http://blog.gsmarena.com/here-goes-the-samsung-galaxy-s4-black-mist-hands-on-video/
This hands on from GSMArena shows an Adobe RGB mode in the screen mode settings. It seems to have taken the place of the "natural" mode in the GS3 and Note 2. My question is, do you think it will be drastically better than the old natural mode?
I've owned the GS3 and now am rocking a Note 2. Switching to natural mode turns everything lackluster, grainy, and dingy looking. It almost feels like its turning off some subpixels. The contrast goes down and whites look even grayer. I've tried using it a few times, but always get really annoyed and switched back to standard. It's suppose to bridge the gap and be more pleasant like the natural colors of an LCD, but all it does is make the screen look defective to me.
One of the biggest problems with AMOLED is that when you turn up the brightness, the colors also change. It's consistently saturated, but not consistently of the same color. Greens always make me barf, and there are so many kinds of green. The weather widget and Lord of the Rings trailers are good examples. Do you think the Galaxy S4 has improved on color consistency over varying brightness settings?
I cannot tell much from the GSMArena video nor have I seen the phone in person. But I would like to hear your thoughts if you think the S4 screen color fidelity has improved much from its previous iteration, with or without the new Adobe RGB screen mode. Or if you could link to sites that have examined this in detail with actual units. The more generic reviews like to absentmindedly say the "natural" mode fixes the color issues with Samsung's panels, but that has not been the case for me, and am hoping the Adobe RGB mode and Samsung's new 1080p panel might not be just the same old same old.
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http://blog.gsmarena.com/here-goes-the-samsung-galaxy-s4-black-mist-hands-on-video/
This hands on from GSMArena shows an Adobe RGB mode in the screen mode settings. It seems to have taken the place of the "natural" mode in the GS3 and Note 2. My question is, do you think it will be drastically better than the old natural mode?
I've owned the GS3 and now am rocking a Note 2. Switching to natural mode turns everything lackluster, grainy, and dingy looking. It almost feels like its turning off some subpixels. The contrast goes down and whites look even grayer. I've tried using it a few times, but always get really annoyed and switched back to standard. It's suppose to bridge the gap and be more pleasant like the natural colors of an LCD, but all it does is make the screen look defective to me.
One of the biggest problems with AMOLED is that when you turn up the brightness, the colors also change. It's consistently saturated, but not consistently of the same color. Greens always make me barf, and there are so many kinds of green. The weather widget and Lord of the Rings trailers are good examples. Do you think the Galaxy S4 has improved on color consistency over varying brightness settings?
I cannot tell much from the GSMArena video nor have I seen the phone in person. But I would like to hear your thoughts if you think the S4 screen color fidelity has improved much from its previous iteration, with or without the new Adobe RGB screen mode. Or if you could link to sites that have examined this in detail with actual units. The more generic reviews like to absentmindedly say the "natural" mode fixes the color issues with Samsung's panels, but that has not been the case for me, and am hoping the Adobe RGB mode and Samsung's new 1080p panel might not be just the same old same old.
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Spoke with someone today who had some hands-on, he's a guy who really obsesses over colour temperature too (like me), he said it wasn't quite as good as the Perseus kernel master settings for screen calibration, but did make a very noticeable difference for the better. Incidentally, it you're with a Note 2 you should try Perseus out. I would not be without its colour tuning now (just give yourself a while to adjust, its such a big change from the Samsung colour calibration that it takes some getting used to).
Galaxy S4 also have 4 manual mode to switch on and 7 automatic modes .....
The OnePlus 2 has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
1080P is still great. People should stop complaining.
FullHD display is still relevant. Helps in battery consumption
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The colors look washed out, even in comparison to OPO. What is experience of other users?
The colors are natural and give a "true to life" look. Go ahead and bump up the saturation and contrast for that "amoled look" if that's your thing. We are on android after all.
1080p is more than enough for a phone or tablet.
The display color is way better than nexus 5 and OPO screen. Bright is also good when high, and gets very low too. The resolution is great, not missing QHD at all.
I will agree with saurabhp75 that the colours are not as vivid and looked washed out compared to the OPO. The only settings are brightness and colour balance which goes from cool to warm. I do agree that it is brighter than the OPO though.
For those complaining that the colors seem "washed" out, that is true to life colors. If you want to have that AMOLED like saturation, we are on android after all, flash AK kernel or Boeffla and from there google the gamma settings for the kind of color reproduction you are interested in
Color production is subjective in this case, it is unjust to call the onplus 2's display as sub par lel
1920x1080 resolution on 5" bit small but for my eyes enough. HD Videos, HD Pictures looking sharp and not pixelised.
super amoled is the best, screen clarity /color is not ok, if u compare with samsung's amoled screen, i'm not satisfied with OP2 sceeen
rahmannek said:
super amoled is the best, screen clarity /color is not ok, if u compare with samsung's amoled screen, i'm not satisfied with OP2 sceeen
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Flash AK Kernel, Change colors to some AMOLED-like mode. Then colors would be over contrasted and not natural...if that's what You want, You can do this. OP2 Screen is amazing. Whites are white and blacks are almost 100% black. I'm really happy with it
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The colors look washed out, even in comparison to OPO. What is experience of other users?
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Install a custom Kernel and increase the saturation to 40-45. It looks much better now, and much more pleasing than the OPO's display. That one always looked weird and cheap to me.
Resolution n sharpness is good. FullHD is still pretty much enough for our eyes.
Agree that color is slightly dull (i always compare color with iphone - the most natural screen you can have) but its easy to tweak using kernel that have KCAL setting enabled. So no issue there
Mate! Really? You think the screen is bad? It is just not saturated. I have a Sony Xperia Z3, Galaxy Note 3, and an LG G4, and Honestly, I cannot tell the difference. Let me get a little technical in the hope of helping you understand it better.
If you feel a magazine page and the photos on a magazine are crisp enough, they are printed at 300dpi. Fine art printers go to 720dpi. And no one really goes beyond that. And from a foot away, even a person with perfect eye sight cannot see more than about 450ppi. The One plus two pushes more than 400ppi, and that I believe should be plenty, unless you want to plaster your eyeballs to the phone screen (which would result in you losing your eyes, unless the screen is turned off ).