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The past few months I've fallen in love with the Dell Streak but it's release kept on getting pushed back. I bought the Captivate on a whim because I got bored with the 3Gs (owned all iPhones but not the i4). Hopefully AT&T will have some in stores before my return window ends for the Captivate. The Captivate does have better hardware all around, minus the camera flash and front cam, but the Streak's 5 inch screen is my main attraction to it. I need some hands on time with it
Don't want to sound harsh, but I came in here to research and discuss Samnsung Captivate.
Sorry bud I thought this was a Captivate forum? 5 inch LCD got nothing on a 4 inch Super AMOLED.
Besides 5 inch is too clumpsy to hold. 4 inch is the PERFECT size to fit on your hand.
Holy **** this is dumb, where else should I post this? Streak General, maybe, but I'm highlighting the positives of the Captivate as well.
The streak has a SMALLER battery(relative) and a screen thats some 20% bigger or so. Even though the captivate supposedly has the best battery of any smartphone on the market, I still feel it dies way too fast.
If for nothing else, you can't friggin use these phones for long. At least the captivate tries to be super batt efficient. Froyo did wonders for the Evo, lets hope it does the same for the captivate...
Oh ya, and who knows if the streak will ever get froyo
I've owned every iPhone since the first (even the i4 for 3 weeks) and tried out the Evo 4g for a month and absolutely loved Android. Returned the Evo within the 30 days and bought the captivate. While it does have its bugs (lag and GPS), it still is a great phone. Out of the box, I don't think it would be noob-friendly like the iPhones are, because you really have to tinker around to get it working up to speed.
Now the Dell streak, WOULD be great if it came out in time. But now, the hardware AND software is dated. 2.1 was leaked for it, but that may be the last official software update Dell may release for it. The community behind the Streak may be lacking because its only coming out (so far) on AT&T, while the Samsung Galaxy S phones is a literally a worldwide release. Therefore, the hacking community may be slim - thats one reason why I love the Galaxy S, it really has great support from the community and even Samsung is listening to the people now.
Streak:
+ Large screen, great for viewing web, movies, etc
+ Aesthetically looks great (it looks like a larger version of the Captivate)
+ The GPS probably works
- Too large to comfortably hold with one hand or use for calling
- Compared to SGS, slower CPU and GPU
- Screen pales in comparison to Super AMOLED and Retinal Display
- 1.6 Stock loaded, 2.1 beta leaked, but no official release date
- Dell Android UI = UGLY
So, no, I wont be jumping ship, but I do want to play with it. ATT store did not have any in yesterday
Well put, Andy. I was once extremely interested in the Streak too. Now it is second fiddles to the GS, DROID X, and Droid Incredible.
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Don't want to sound harsh, but I came in here to research and discuss Samnsung Captivate.
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The op is discussing the captivate. Whether to keep it or not. Why not go post something like this in one of the ip4 vs cap threads and see how far that gets you? Ease up man.
To the op, I'm getting the captivate for the same reason I got the fuze, lots people in the community. The phone is sold worldwide. Itss the first high end android phone on ma bell, one of the best harware wise period. Keep the beast.
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I think it's a valid question and this is the right forum for it.
I won't be switching to the streak. I like the galaxy screen too much to switch to the streak. Also,i feel that a five inch screen is really stretching that wvga resolution too far. I read the streak is also shipping with android 1.6. That is a deal breaker and a half for me.
I have owned almost every current android. While each is unique my experience summed up goes like this. N1: too many screen problems, early updates, small app storage. Droid: the phone that started it all. Eris: junk, Droid Incredible: great phone great II decent app storage, gaming capabilities lower due to snapdragon. Droid X: great overall, great build quality, great amount of app storage(8gb), decongestant most powerful phone made CPu,GPU wise, awesome screen. Gets better with use. Samsung galaxy S: overall most powerful android phone available, great foe gaming, unfortunately not on Verizon yet, fantastic screen. By the time u are able to get the streak it will b way outdated with crap II. Stick with what u got. Motor will b bringing a new phone with OMAP 4 to Verizon this fall it will be the only thing that will compare to SGS power user wise. Well that's a short synopsis of my experience.
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I too thought the Streak was interesting - 9 months ago. Now it is dated. As mentioned already, it is to big to be hand held phone, it is sold at full price but locked to AT&T, and the hardware and shipping OS are old.
If I want a phone that is to big to use as a phone, then I will get a tablet with 3G, and wear a BT headset all the time.
Oh, and rumor is that Samsung will be showing off some new tablets in the upcoming weeks.
I totally forgot about the community aspect between the streak and captivate. I already put the JM5 EURO GS on my captivate and there's many more projects GS users are working on. You can just take a look at ask the activity on the I9000, vibrant and captivate forums VS the streak's.
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I own both the Captivate and Streak. Streak is great for real estate space but not so great as a phone. I use the Streak now as a replacement for my archos 5 for surfing on the couch or bed. The Captivate is the day to day phone.
I think I'm going to get the Streak in a couple months and have both my Captivate and the Streak. Had the Streak come out a month or so ago, I would have had one. It seriously takes this long to release basically the same phone across the pond? I could even see if they'd updated to 2.2 in that time, but its still running 1.6. And that makes me wonder if and when they will update to Gingerbread. At least with the Captivate I know Samsung will get me to 2.2 in a timely manner.
The only reason I'm still even considering trading is because of the pentile screen on the SGS, BUT the pixel density on the Streak sucks anyway, so *shrug*.
Just to let you know, there are multiple websites posting that Dell is going to be shipping the Streak with Froyo instead of 1.6. I haven't seen any updated benchmarks, but I am sure they'll be around what the Nexus One can get.
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Just to let you know, there are multiple websites posting that Dell is going to be shipping the Streak with Froyo instead of 1.6. I haven't seen any updated benchmarks, but I am sure they'll be around what the Nexus One can get.
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no, it still ships with 1.6 and froyo is only RUMORED to be released by Dell (and skipping Eclair), but at an unknown date - could be months off.
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Enough said.
I love my Captivate, I looked at the I Phone4 they were side by side at the AT&T atore and held it played around a bit on it but I was already sold on the Captivate, I researched it for a while. It isn't Noob friendly, electronics no longer come with a user manual worth a dime but once I downloaded the pdf I played with it night and day. I lurked on Android Forums, and here to learn as much as I could. I love playing with gadgets that are pretty much idiot pfoof and I think the Samsug pretty much is. I've only had it 3 weeks and I have it tweaked to my liking for now. All the AT&T crapware is off of it as well as some other bugs that are also gone thanks to BuglessPete's Unleash the Beast Rom/Tool. I wouldn't by Dell no way, imo, they make an inferior product these days. I would feel uncomfortable with a 5" screen, the I4 is too small and this Samsung is the perfect size. Plus, the Hummingbird processor is lightning fast and there is so much available as far as tweaks go in these forums this phone will be quite fun to mess around with for quite some time.
The big screen is nice I guess (too big imho), but Dell clearly does not seem to be pulling out their A-game for this phone, so even if I needed/wanted a phone with that much real estate it'd be an awfully tough sell.
Do not buy:
- has 30fps cap issue like the evo
- very low benchmark scores.
- android 1.6 with slow updates.
- little to no dev support.
Dell made so many mistakes with the device launch it is just sad.
hey guys,
i was browsing for almost 2 weeks to know if mytouch 4g is good or not, i had a nexus one and i sold it today to get mytouch 4g or nexus s, i read a lot of comment about nexus s make me go away from it and i read a lot of comment make me love the mytouch 4g, then today after i sold my nexus one i saw this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894953
i saw a lot of ppl said the mytouch have a fuzzy screen and bad battery life i don't know what to do now please i need some advice, i really don't like to open a new topic because like i said almost 2 weeks browsing and i sold my nexus already to get my touch, some advice please go for mytouch 4g or nexus s .
thanks
All devices have positive and negative points, but it's up to you to weigh them and decide what works best for you.
If you've been browsing for two weeks, then you should know the differences in the screen types and what to look for as well as what to either accept or avoid. Battery life varies depending on use and settings applied, especially for the modders and tweakers that exist in these forums.
Since you are in the Glacier section, I doubt there will be anyone who recommends that you get a Nexus S. In fact, if you read the Nexus S forum, there will probably be the same type of complaints that you find here as well as every other device section. No device is perfect, but to many of us the MT4G is the best of what is currently available on the market.
You will end up in this same predicament no matter which phone you get in the months ahead when yet new phones are released, so choose what ends up making you the happiest for now.
Thanks dude, ur comment is perfect, I always say there no phone will come to us complete, the companies can't do this and if they do this mean they will close, the only thing I am trying to do to improve my phone and get something higher and stay with it for at least 2 years or so, wating for new baby and want to stope spending on crap, that's why I decided to change and sold my nexus.
Thanks again
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Man I had the g2 there is no way I would trade for the g2 no way
Honestly I think it's almost a toss up between the NS or MT4G. I have the MT4G and I am absolutely in love with it. Build quality is awesome and has everything you could want. Even camera quality was better than expected. And now that there's more devlopers jumping on this phone then the sky is the limit for this.
BUT, I am very intruged with the Nexus S. I love the SuperAmoled screen on it and I know everyone bags on Samsung phones being made out of plastic, that's what I love about it. Plastic phone = really lightweight. I don't care if it's plastic or metal like the MT4G because I put a case on any phone I get anyways. The MT4G with my little plastic case can be a tad bit heavier than the NS so that's totally up to you if you want a lighter phone or a heavier feel. Right now there is no 720p HD video capture on the NS which to me is mind boggling. I'm sure hackers will find a way around that though. One thing also is that it has no dedicated camera button on the side like the MT4G. For me I love to have a dedicated camera button. Also there's no expandable micro SD card slot in the NS, so take that into consideration as well.
So overall I would give the MT4G the edge, especially that it's 4G capable unlike the Nexus S and also has an optical track pad and most importantly has about 250 more mb's of RAM than the Nexus S. But honestly, you can't go wrong with either. Just play with each of them for like 10 minutes and I'm sure you can make your decision after then.
Hope this helps!
Biggest strike against the Nexus S is Samsung. I came over from a Vibrant and will NEVER purchase another phone made by Samsung. Average hardware (build quality and feel) with HORRIBLE software support. Now, with the Nexus S being a Google experience phone it takes the Samsung software support out of the equation, but it's still not a leap forward by any means (read the reviews).
I will miss the SuperAmoled display, but nothing else.
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Honestly I think it's almost a toss up between the NS or MT4G. I have the MT4G and I am absolutely in love with it. Build quality is awesome and has everything you could want. Even camera quality was better than expected. And now that there's more devlopers jumping on this phone then the sky is the limit for this.
BUT, I am very intruged with the Nexus S. I love the SuperAmoled screen on it and I know everyone bags on Samsung phones being made out of plastic, that's what I love about it. Plastic phone = really lightweight. I don't care if it's plastic or metal like the MT4G because I put a case on any phone I get anyways. The MT4G with my little plastic case can be a tad bit heavier than the NS so that's totally up to you if you want a lighter phone or a heavier feel. Right now there is no 720p HD video capture on the NS which to me is mind boggling. I'm sure hackers will find a way around that though. One thing also is that it has no dedicated camera button on the side like the MT4G. For me I love to have a dedicated camera button. Also there's no expandable micro SD card slot in the NS, so take that into consideration as well.
So overall I would give the MT4G the edge, especially that it's 4G capable unlike the Nexus S and also has an optical track pad and most importantly has about 250 more mb's of RAM than the Nexus S. But honestly, you can't go wrong with either. Just play with each of them for like 10 minutes and I'm sure you can make your decision after then.
Hope this helps!
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Thanks dude, i tried both of them the feeling is so different, i feel mytouch is so hard device specially made by HTC, my wife had a vibrant and it was soooo slow and i couldn't do nothing to make it fast specially she don't like root or stuff like that so i sold it for her and get her a G2, my feeling go to mytouch i can't go to plastic phone after my nexus i always say samsung just screen, so i feel i will go with mytouch
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Biggest strike against the Nexus S is Samsung. I came over from a Vibrant and will NEVER purchase another phone made by Samsung. Average hardware (build quality and feel) with HORRIBLE software support. Now, with the Nexus S being a Google experience phone it takes the Samsung software support out of the equation, but it's still not a leap forward by any means (read the reviews).
I will miss the SuperAmoled display, but nothing else.
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same feeling like u dude 1+
Get the MT4, the 2nd gen snapdragon makes web scrolling so smooth that once the phone oced to 1.4 you almost feel like iOS.
The cpu in the vibrant or ns on the other hand is a piece of ****, it'll have the best gpu but that cpu makes web scrolling feel like crap. Choppy at best and slideshow in most cases.
Look at the video after 5:00 mark i think, is a joke and i don't have the patience to wait for the development to pick up because AT THIS POINT IN TIME, anything coming out will be better than the NS so in summary if you have almost $600 to burn then yeah go ahead if you value your money then get the MT for cheap and upgrade later on to a better phone.
If you don't mind the branding, MT4 is better than nexus one in many ways.
1. more storage for applications (the most important)
2. wifi calling (it's useless if you don't use T-Mobile)
3. a bit larger screen, but you may encounter quality issue
4. physical buttons (it's also user's preference)
5. 720p video recording
6. secondary cam
You want nexus one if:
1. you have grandfathered internet (t-zones, tmoweb, and total internet)
2. you want minimal branding
3. AMOLED screen
4. fastest possible software update
Agree whith ^ message
It's way worth it to get a cheap my4g and mod it, then upgrade when smth better comes up.
I loove the samoled, but won't give up on 4G for that.
Thanks guys, my point for right now to get a device to stay with me for a little bit i really don't care about gaming and stuff so i am not waiting for Tegra 2, i will go to tmobile store and get the phone from there so if i see this issue in the screen i will return it and get another one till i get good one
I had the Vibrant and I have to say the hardware is awesome. But damn Samsung ruined it with their software. IMHO the MT4G is one of the best if not the best phone on the market right now. It has so much going for it; 4G, FFC, almost double the OC'd speed and CM support.
I am going with mt4g, I have a feeling this phone is awesome, thanks guys for all this advices
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I had the Vibrant and I have to say the hardware is awesome. But damn Samsung ruined it with their software. IMHO the MT4G is one of the best if not the best phone on the market right now. It has so much going for it; 4G, FFC, almost double the OC'd speed and CM support.
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what fcc means? thanks
You mean FFC = front facing camera
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Had the MT4G for 3 days now and im really impressed.Ive been a winmo user all this time and had the chance to use android on my HD2.i was blown away on how android runs.that made me buy a Nexus One,but the ram was small for me to install apps so had to trade it luckily someone wanted my N1 for his Vibrant.we traded straight up and after a couple of days got tired of the Vibrant.Samsung doesnt really get a lot of support compare to HTC.sold the Vibrant and got the MT4G on an upgrade.
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Had the MT4G for 3 days now and im really impressed.Ive been a winmo user all this time and had the chance to use android on my HD2.i was blown away on how android runs.that made me buy a Nexus One,but the ram was small for me to install apps so had to trade it luckily someone wanted my N1 for his Vibrant.we traded straight up and after a couple of days got tired of the Vibrant.Samsung doesnt really get a lot of support compare to HTC.sold the Vibrant and got the MT4G on an upgrade.
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pretty much same thing I've done, but alittle bit longer I guess.
Iphone 3gs unlocked traded for nexus one...straight up trade
nexus one traded for an iphone 4 32gb, straight up trade
iphone 4 32gb trade for iphone 4 16gb plus $200
iphone 4 16gb sold $500
purchased vibrant for $160.....unlocked it and rooted LOVE it....selling today for $280..... purchased mytouch 4g brand new never opened for $ 275. It has the good screen !! Now trying to decided to if I should unlock it and use it on my current carrier or goto tmobile?
currently: 500 minutes, unlimited text/data....$55 w/ tax. Plus my wife is on this carrier and free minutes. Lot of them to her...
pros... priced for life can & no contract, free minutes to wife
cons: can't upgrade to new phone, have to buy out right. Typically using tmobile phones since 3g services work.
Tmobile.. 500 minutes, unlimited text data, $59.99 plus a 12% discount through employer.
Pros: 4g service, drop internet service at home save $30/month
cons: may have to watch my minutes
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Iphone 3gs unlocked traded for nexus one...straight up trade
nexus one traded for an iphone 4 32gb, straight up trade
iphone 4 32gb trade for iphone 4 16gb plus $200
iphone 4 16gb sold $500
tmobile phones since 3g services work.
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an iphone 4 32GB for a nexus one? a straight trade? Oh you got real lucky!
yes I think I was lucky on that since the person I traded with was looking to use it on the same carrier. I need to quit playing with phones, its an addiction!!
I would like to thank the devs and all the other helpful people in the captivate forums, tons of information from fixing a broken phone to enhancing it with custom roms or tweaks. I have found almost if not all solutions to every problem I have had with my phone. Decided to upgrade to the htc inspire and it is really freaking sweet. So time to switch to the inspire forums. Btw I checked out the atrix and have commented on it before and it just feels cheap same size screen as cappy but everything on screen looks smaller wasnt impressed with it. anyways been fun.
You mean you switched to a phone that has 2 doors that dont fit on the back and a camera that sticks out and the edges of the aluminum body protrude past the screen?
At least you can fix the software problems with the cappy...LOL just playing....enjoy
yep and like everything about it, nothing about cap i actually liked, was just only decent android phone att had at time. cappy felt like a little girl phone, and hated the plastic and the galaxy s sticking out all rough on the back, oh and the usb slot on top like how much thought was actually put into that? talking on the phone and its sticking out the top? Holding the htc in hand feels like quality and quite pleased with it, yes the battery door is rough to take off first few times but it loosens up, and atleast it has a flash.
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I would like to thank the devs and all the other helpful people in the captivate forums, tons of information from fixing a broken phone to enhancing it with custom roms or tweaks. I have found almost if not all solutions to every problem I have had with my phone. Decided to upgrade to the htc inspire and it is really freaking sweet. So time to switch to the inspire forums. Btw I checked out the atrix and have commented on it before and it just feels cheap same size screen as cappy but everything on screen looks smaller wasnt impressed with it. anyways been fun.
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I think I'm just about ready to join you.
Having to pay $399 off-contract to get the insipre sux, though. I'll have to sell my captivate, and I'm not sure whether to do it via Craigslist or eBay... just a hassle I wish I didn't have to deal with.
It'd be a lot easier if att would just take this phone back and give me credit towards the inspire, but I ain't gonna hold my breath for that one.
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I had captivate for 6 months i only had to pay 300.00 for the inspire with 6 month early upgrade. I put my captivate on craigslist for 175.00 this afternoon and sold it 30 min later, someone contacted me within 5 min of posting it on craigslist. basically it cost me 150.00 out of pocket today to get it and my cappy was 6 months old i think that is minimum for early upgrade not sure but call att store.
Hey I was just kidding. I have been through many phones. Some are better than others. The Captivate is decent, but definitely is not one of the better Android offerings. I was going to buy the atrix, although thats supposed to have a rather dissapointing screen. Oh well.
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I had captivate for 6 months i only had to pay 300.00 for the inspire with 6 month early upgrade. I put my captivate on craigslist for 175.00 this afternoon and sold it 30 min later, someone contacted me within 5 min of posting it on craigslist. basically it cost me 150.00 out of pocket today to get it and my cappy was 6 months old i think that is minimum for early upgrade not sure but call att store.
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My early upgrade doesn't come til July, and I'm not gonna wait that long. It's getting harder and harder to hold out with all the happy captivate->inspire defections that are growing by the day ;-)
That's pretty encouraging on the Craigslist thing, I must say. That'll be the way I go, when this swap goes down.
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Love the inspire hardware, hate the software and from reading their development forums it seems like a much different community than ours.
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Hey I was just kidding. I have been through many phones. Some are better than others. The Captivate is decent, but definitely is not one of the better Android offerings. I was going to buy the atrix, although thats supposed to have a rather dissapointing screen. Oh well.
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I had my hands on both devices today. I agree about the screen size of the Atrix. It was just too small, and I didnt care for the feel of it either. Now the Inspire on the other hand, was REALLY nice, not to mention, $99.99 with a 2 yr, if I hadn't just done my upgrade on my Captivate. I'd give the Inspire a serious look.
There were a couple things that I think make the Cap a better phone. The Cap has the Hummingbird processor, and comes with double the internal memory the Inspire does. But the Inspire has a 8mp camera with flash. There aren't too many other devices that have that one. THe screen is a little bigger, and it really does feel pretty good, nice solid build
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I would like to thank the devs and all the other helpful people in the captivate forums, tons of information from fixing a broken phone to enhancing it with custom roms or tweaks. I have found almost if not all solutions to every problem I have had with my phone. Decided to upgrade to the htc inspire and it is really freaking sweet. So time to switch to the inspire forums. Btw I checked out the atrix and have commented on it before and it just feels cheap same size screen as cappy but everything on screen looks smaller wasnt impressed with it. anyways been fun.
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did you happen to also notice a difference in call quality and battery life?
i was thinking of getting the inspire, but decided on the captivate since there were more things one can do on it.
i have to say that both phones look really nice though.
i love the captivate hardware, it's super slim, great screen, fast hummingbird, but the software blows. hopefully we can fix it with aosp builds until my contract is up again.
Only 12gb of storage is a big minus for me. Everything else look good though. I change phones once a year so by the time november rolls around something way better than the cappy and the inspire will be available.
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Volume & Signal ???
So, hows the volume and signal on the inspire compared to the cappy. I mean does it pull in signal better than the cappy and how is the volume, earpiece and speaker, compare to the cappy ?
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So, hows the volume and signal on the inspire compared to the cappy. I mean does it pull in signal better than the cappy and how is the volume, earpiece and speaker, compare to the cappy ?
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I think the Inspire pulls in a better signal than my Captivate (which I sold on Craigslist a week later). Volume, earpiece, and speaker seem the same to me although I'm no audiophile and usually use a my bluetooth headset to talk anyway.
Regardless of how some people feel about SAMOLED screens, I thought the Captivate's screen was awesome. The Inspire's screen is more than adequate and the extra 0.3 inches is quite noticeable. The colors are not as vibrant and rich as the Captivate's but again.. it's very adequate.
There are three other features where the Captivate shines:
1) MKV compatibility: It was nice being able to toss a 720P MKV file of my TV shows onto the phone and play it smoothly without having to waste time re-encoding.
2) 16GB of internal storage: It's nice to have an excess of storage space!
3) TV out even though it's only analog.
The Inspire doesn't have the codec support for MKV files, has 1GB of internal storage accessible to the user, and no TV out. Bummer.
I still like the Inspire more because of the two most important features: Working GPS and that huge 4.3" screen. Seriously... side by side that screen just jumps out.
If memory is your prob just buy more its not that much, everything is more snappy its faster and i have great signal. Love the screen and i love sense ui built in theme support way more widgets and better widgets, htc sense to find your phone from web or ring it or remote wipe or lock is really kool. usb port on bottom as opposed to top on captivate which btw is the most retarded design flaw, who likes a charging cord pullig on top of phone especially car charger with the spiral cord? audio sounds really good to me on it better then on captivate, lets not forge dual led flash for camera, which is also 8mp led blinking notification on front which i loved on droid x but captivate lacked, bigger screen!
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So, hows the volume and signal on the inspire compared to the cappy. I mean does it pull in signal better than the cappy and how is the volume, earpiece and speaker, compare to the cappy ?
I think the Inspire pulls in a better signal than my Captivate (which I sold on Craigslist a week later). Volume, earpiece, and speaker seem the same to me although I'm no audiophile and usually use a my bluetooth headset to talk anyway.
Regardless of how some people feel about SAMOLED screens, I thought the Captivate's screen was awesome. The Inspire's screen is more than adequate and the extra 0.3 inches is quite noticeable. The colors are not as vibrant and rich as the Captivate's but again.. it's very adequate.
There are three other features where the Captivate shines:
1) MKV compatibility: It was nice being able to toss a 720P MKV file of my TV shows onto the phone and play it smoothly without having to waste time re-encoding.
2) 16GB of internal storage: It's nice to have an excess of storage space!
3) TV out even though it's only analog.
The Inspire doesn't have the codec support for MKV files, has 1GB of internal storage accessible to the user, and no TV out. Bummer.
I still like the Inspire more because of the two most important features: Working GPS and that huge 4.3" screen. Seriously... side by side that screen just jumps out.
Mkv doesnt need to be re-encoded, mkv is only a wrapper, use a program called tsmuxer, i can do a 20g mkv in like 2 min its switchs the container file type, like mt2s or other compatiable file types and u can stream whatever to the tv so I got no problems with that.
Btw in 6 months there will be new phones out that are even better u are correct on that and i will be upgrading then aswell if they have a decent one out.
What's this whole gold card stuff? Looks like a monumental task tio root the thing ?
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Sold my captivate for 250 on craigslist and bought my Inspire off contract. Definitely the best decision I have made in a long time. I dont find myself missing anything about the captivate. I will always be buying HTC from now even if they dont start pumping out dual core phones. I take software over hardware.
Sold my captivate on ebay for $300 and currently have my wife's listed as well. Bought two new off contract inspire's and have been 100% happier than I ever was with any ROM on the captivate.
2 of my brothers just switched to inspire aswell and love it, captivate was never something that made me like wow i love this phone was just i love android. Now I love the phone like i did my droid x and te stock htc software is kool the way it is. Want root for it but no need to change roms.
Was out today and thought I'd stop by and check out the infuse...
I spent about 5 minutes goin over it...
The screen looks awesome....
Touchwiz looks cheap...
GPS could not lock on my location..but the Atrix and the Inspire on display had no trouble at all..
I may be a little jealous if the display and battery size of the infuse...otherwise I'm stickin with the inspire...
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good there really isn't a plus from other galaxy s phones. Sure there's a better camera, bigger screen, ffc, and a better screen but what's hardware without software?
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I messed with one for five minutes as well. Salesman was really hyping it up how it was the best phone on at&t right now. I agree the screen is nice but I still prefer the inspire.
I feel just like that whenever I look at my wife’s Galaxy Captivate’s bright screen, until I try to navigate that damn Touchwiz. Grass will always be greener on the other side when it comes to technical toys. But with all the things I can do with my Inspire 4G, I can do without the faster CPU, front facing camera, and the extra .2 inches of high def screen until next Inspire (something comparable to) comes out.
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I messed with one for five minutes as well. Salesman was really hyping it up how it was the best phone on at&t right now. I agree the screen is nice but I still prefer the inspire.
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if we sell enough of them, samsung gives us goodies, we win points that we can redeem for electronics and such...
so you're damn right its the best phone we have at AT&T right now..
(i still use my inspire and i think its way better than both infuse and atrix, much more solid built etc)
but yea.. when the next phone comes out that gives us salesmen something good in return, guess what.. it's gonna be the best phone you can buy for your money!! i guarantee it!! *wink*
The Infuse looks very interesting to me.
I checked out a non-working demo unit at Costco and it's about the same size as the Inspire and the screen was noticeably bigger. Bravo Samsung for coming out with a 4.5" screen phone and using as much real estate on the front of the phone as possible.
The GPS lock problem... hmmm... gee Samsung... haven't you learned?
As far as the UI: Come on... most of us hate TouchWiz. That's a given. Just replace it with LauncherPro or ADWLauncher. I bet half of the Inspire users here don't use Sense (though I do and actually like Sense).
Would I trade in my Inspire for the Infuse (I bought from Costco): No. I'm still pissed off at Samsung over the Captivate GPS issues... but if the Infuse turns out to have 100% working hardware and features as advertised it'd be a step in the right direction winning me back. I would recommend it to non-phone obsessed friends who don't care about quick OS updates.
We'll be hearing about any defects or problems within a week if there are any.
I played with one too. Reminded me of my captivate just bigger. kinda cool, but eh. I still prefer my Inspire!
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The Infuse looks very interesting to me.
I checked out a non-working demo unit at Costco and it's about the same size as the Inspire and the screen was noticeably bigger. Bravo Samsung for coming out with a 4.5" screen phone and using as much real estate on the front of the phone as possible.
The GPS lock problem... hmmm... gee Samsung... haven't you learned?
As far as the UI: Come on... most of us hate TouchWiz. That's a given. Just replace it with LauncherPro or ADWLauncher. I bet half of the Inspire users here don't use Sense (though I do and actually like Sense).
Would I trade in my Inspire for the Infuse (I bought from Costco): No. I'm still pissed off at Samsung over the Captivate GPS issues... but if the Infuse turns out to have 100% working hardware and features as advertised it'd be a step in the right direction winning me back. I would recommend it to non-phone obsessed friends who don't care about quick OS updates.
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I love sense, and when I had my captivated, everything about it was HTC. notification bar, battery meter, signal meter, app icons, etc. I wasn't phone obsessed as far as updates until I got into Android. So that may change for them.
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Samsung's hardware is tempting, but I'll never forget the garbage I (we) went through with the Captivate. Dying earpiece and external speakers (both happened to me on different handsets), sleep death, no GPS, the OTA update that bricked stock phones...all of this and more, and the phone hasn't even been out for a year.
Not only that, but Samsung insulted us by releasing a GPS "fix" app in the market that "restored the GPS to factory settings"...you know, the ones that didn't work in the first place?
I'm not a fanboy and won't spend my money buying products from a company that is all to happy to ass-rape me for giving them business. Apple has the luxury for rabid fanboyism, so no matter what they do, people will still buy their products. Samsung doesn't have that, they just think they do for some reason.
The good side of the Infuse is his unlocked bootloader.
My wife has a Inspire and I have a captivate, I have to say the captivate is really easier to unlock. But I agree with most of you about the captivate, a stock captivate is really not perfect, but I'm running my cappy with Contiuuum 5.4.1 (Android 2.3.3) and I can say bye bye to all the problems, my gps is a dream and my battery time is amazing.
I have a SE Xperia X10 and I'm in the market for a new phone, so I went to my local AT&T store for the Sunday release of the Infuse. I played with it, and with the Inspire, for about an hour.
I came away from the experience thinking my next phone will be an HTC...now if I can only hold out for the upcoming "Holiday." hee hee. Here's why-
1. I have owned Samsungs before, including a brief stint with the Captivate, and I'm unimpressed with the company as far as updates and support.
2. The HTC aluminum unibody case just says "build quality" to me. The infuse felt just like the Captivate in the hand - like flimsy, cheap plastic that should not be used for high-end phones. I know some people want light weight, but come on - few extra grams won't kill ya and it just might save your phone if you're a little rough with it.
3. The Infuse's screen was way too color over-saturated for me. It's bright and clear, but looks surreal to me. I would tire of that in hurry.
4. I could detect no speed or smoothness advantage for the Infuse. Heck, I could load up a custom rom on the Inspire, overclock it conservatively and just beat the snot out of the Infuse... which leads me to....
5. There seems to be a whole lot more developer time and interest in the HTC devices, which means loads more fun for me.
I have both phones with me right now and here are my quick observations between the two phones (Inspire running current version of LeeDroid 2.3.3):
Web browsing: Inspire – Seems to load pages faster and better scrolling.
Camera: Infuse – For some reason the pictures from my Inspire produce a redish look and are too soft, almost out of focus.
Build quality: Inspire – HTC = solid. I don’t notice much difference when carrying them in my pocket as the Infuse is lighter.
Screen: Infuse - However the Inspire is not bad. I could live with both. After looking at the Infuse I do notice a little bit of softness to the Inspire’s text.
Call quality/Handset speaker: Infuse – I have always had an issue with the call quality of HTC devices for my taste. I have to say that the Infuse has one of the best sounding speakers. I would rate it on par with the iPhone 4 or better.
GPS: Infuse – I get a lock in about 10 seconds. Inspire takes about 1 minute with current ROM/Radio.
Battery life: Infuse – But not by much (10 to 15% better).
Speedtests: Infuse – Speed tests seam consistently higher using Speedtest.net (between 4-5 download and 1.5-2 upload).
Battery charging: Inspire – for some reason the Infuse (and most Samsung phones) take forever to fully charge.
Reception: Still need a few more days with the phone but did have an issue with it the very first call. Called AT&T to make a change to my account and dropped the call five times. The lady at AT&T apologized and said that her land line has been dropping a lot of calls lately (WTF?!?!). I should have a conclusion within the next few days.
I’m not going to get into Touchwiz vs. Sense as there are several write-ups on this but based upon the above, I’m leaning towards the Infuse. Call quality is fantastic on my side as well as the other side. I travel a lot so being in airports and cars this is very important for me. The other item is camera quality. Images may be a little oversaturated by they look sharp and I’m no longer to grabbing my wife’s iPhone 4 to take pictures or videos.
Hope this helps anyone looking at both of these devices and let me know if you have any questions.
I may have to reconsider. I spent another day playing with the phones at the ATT shop. I loaded up speedtest on the Inspire, Attrix and Infuse and ran it on each phone about five times. The Infuse consistently beat the others on download and upload. It was close with the Attrix, but the Inspire got its clock cleaned every time.
The screen on the Infuse started to grow on me when I got out of the start screen and its surreal, over the top background and icon colors. When you look at web pages, movies and snapped pictures, it looks amazingly good. The blacks are so very black, even way off axis.
I also played around with the cameras and I have to say that the Infuse is outstanding. Very fast focus and snap and consistently better looking shots...well, could have been the better screen making them appear to be better.
With all the apps coming out now that utilize video chat with the front camera, I don't know if I could go another year or so without one and of course the Infuse has a nice one.
The only down side I had with the Infuse was the build quality. Now that I think about it, it was really the "feel" and the super light weight. Then it dawned on me...duh!...I'm going to put a case on it, so that can be easily corrected.
So now the only thing that I have left to quibble about is the lack of notification lights on the Infuse.....and yet, something tells me that there will be an app or fix that converts some of those other front lights to message notifications. And then of course there's the relative lack of developer input on Samsung devices.
Ok, so do you think I am talking myself into the Infuse?....maybe, just maybe.
Lmao u diss the infuse then come back and suddenly its way better? Little lost in denial
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Every Samsung phone I have seen / had my hands on felt poorly made and cheap. Felt like if I touched it the wrong way I would break it! Plus it doesn't have a dual core CPU so I am not seeing the benefit to switching to it and paying $100 more than the Inspire.
Yes indeed. This inspire has fallen off the back of the car and bounced and slid a goodways before realizing that on this narrow road here in mesquite. I picked it up after backtracking and had dust on the screen that's it. And even had it.upstairs and my nephew dropped the phone 1.5 stories and not one crack nor scratch. Btw had a platinum series casing on the whole time.
NO INSPIRES WERE HURT THRU THESE HORRID TIMES
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Every Samsung phone I have seen / had my hands on felt poorly made and cheap. Felt like if I touched it the wrong way I would break it! Plus it doesn't have a dual core CPU so I am not seeing the benefit to switching to it and paying $100 more than the Inspire.
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If I wanted a Captivate, I would buy a Captivate. The Infuse is just a stupid phone in my opinion. It's not bad, I'm sure, but it doesn't make sense to buy one with the Holiday and Ma Bell's version of the Galaxy S II right around the corner.
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So I have a Captivate and was thinking about upgrading to the Infuse. Is it worth getting? I know it has a better camera and a larger screen, but reviews say that the screen PPI is less than the Captivate and the processor isn't dual core. Just 200mhz faster. So I'm at a crossroads... Keep my Cappy or upgrade?
I personally think it is a great device. i can say one of the best i have own. People make such a big fuzz about screens i honestly done get it. it doenst have one of those cheap phone screens, so im set. i can read my text, videos look good. so im good. its a phone not a computer.
its good phone, it works and functions as it should. so im content. this is my first samsung phone. and im happy. its a great little big device
My first android and im in love. I would recommend the infuse. Unless if ur in the battle between the infuse and sgsII. I still love my infuse though.
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I'd say totally worth it, had a captivate running gingerbread and loved it but this blows it away, far better screen, camera(also front facing), gps rocks, love downloading movies from pirate bay straight from my phone and watching them on the big screen with an hdmi. It's really fast, great roms so far and it'll get gb roms really soon... I bought mine for 200 and right now it's only 50 at target! The only downside is the sgs2 will be released next month... Either way both are huge upgrades from the already awesome captivate!
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Im always streaming movies for free off of a website. Looks sooo great on this screen.
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I have the inspire and the infuse, and i really like the infuse better. Its a very snappy phone. The battery life is way better on the infuse, its lighter and the screen is better than the inspire. Now with that said, compared to the Craptivate which was my first android phone the infuse is 100 times better. I have a feeling when we get gingerbread its going to be a great device.
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I don't think it's worth it, the specs aren't all that different. (400mhz bump in clock speed, slightly better camera, slightly better screen). I'd wait till August for the S2 at the very least.
I mean, I do love my Infuse.. But let's be realistic.
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So I have a Captivate and was thinking about upgrading to the Infuse. Is it worth getting? I know it has a better camera and a larger screen, but reviews say that the screen PPI is less than the Captivate and the processor isn't dual core. Just 200mhz faster. So I'm at a crossroads... Keep my Cappy or upgrade?
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It all depends, if the main thing you do with the phone is talk and play a couple songs then its not worth it.
But if you do a lot of other stuff with the phone and have an extra $200 bucks to shell out like I did, you can buy a new or near new one on eBay for under $450 and you can sell your captivate for at least $225 if its in good shape and complete. So its not as if you were to shell out $450.
I sold my Captivate for $250 on eBay in less than 2 days about 3 weeks ago.
There is a big difference between Captivate and Infuse.
Since I take a lot of pictures the main thing which comes to mind is the fact that the Infuse has a LED flash, the flash is nothing like a professional strobe BUT without the LED flash, as I am certain you know by now that you can forget about taking decent pictures indoors or outdoors at night.
With the LED flash I get very decent pictures anywhere and anytime as long as the subject(s) is not much further than 7 feet or so from where I stand.
Plus the Infuse also has a front facing camera which is great for video chat using wifi and or 3G. Not to forget that the camera is much better being its 8Megapixels.
And yes the Infuse is not double the speed of the Captivate, but the 20% increase which it does have is nothing to sneeze at either. It is noticably faster. The speed difference is most noticable when playing action games and when you surf the web.
Perhaps 4G is in your future? if it is, the Infuse has that too.
Plus you can record and watch 720p videos then connect the phone to big screen tv using the mini hdmi adaptor which comes with the phone.
All in all its well worth the couple hundred bucks difference.
If you do plan to buy one, I would suggest you do it as soon as you can because the longer you wait the less money you will be able to sell the Captivate for on eBay or anywhere else.
I wanted to write about the big 4.5 inch SCREEN last, that in my mind is such a huge difference that if everything else was the same on both phones and the only difference was the screen size I would have still purchased the Infuse..
A half inch does not sound like much at all, but when you consider something so small to start with as a 4 inch screen and then you add a half inch to that, it makes the Infuse screen approx 20% larger.
Not only is the screen larger, but it uses a much newer Super Amoled Plus screen technology which really rivals the iPhone screen as far as resolution goes, its way better than the Captivate. Infuse is much better on the eyes for people who spend a lot of time using all the features of the phone.
Well thats about it........... That's my review and comparison between Captivate and the Infuse phones.
Good luck!
Infuse it is
Thank you guys for your opinions! Putting up the Cappy up for sale now. And if you know anyone who wants to buy one, well you know I'm selling!
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Thank you guys for your opinions! Putting up the Cappy up for sale now. And if you know anyone who wants to buy one, well you know I'm selling!
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Go to target ($50 with upgrade) if there sold out take the ad or pull it up online and go to bestbuy. Show them they will price match.
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Go to target ($50 with upgrade) if there sold out take the ad or pull it up online and go to bestbuy. Show them they will price match.
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Best Buy will not price match. I tried yesterday
Walmart price matches. If they say that they can't, then they are lying or don't know anything.
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I also upgraded from the Cappy, And I'm completely lovin' the Infuse. Even tho the SGSII is releasing, I'm probably gonna stick to this bad boy. (Maybe). But still Cappy or Infuse both are great phones, Infuse just knocks the captivate out with more upgraded features. Its like BumbleBee in transformers, The old Camaro, the to the new camaro.
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Best Buy will not price match. I tried yesterday
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BestBuy definately matches. Just bought one a few hours ago. Had them price check on the web and even told them Target wasnt getting them until tomorrow. All depends on the rep. Manager signed off on the 50 Target price match no problem.
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BestBuy definately matches. Just bought one a few hours ago. Had them price check on the web and even told them Target wasnt getting them until tomorrow. All depends on the rep. Manager signed off on the 50 Target price match no problem.
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They price matched for me too. Go back get a different rep and adk for a.price match. Stop by target and pick up there ad. That should seal the deal.
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I have had or used several phones lately:
BlackBerry (Sets the Standard, but I don't see BB keeping up with the trend)
HTC Tilt 2 (The best speakers),
Moto Razor (Still going strong after 5 years) Wife loves it
Samsung Blackjack 3 (wore the paint off the keyboard)
Moto Atrix (Fast phone and very nice)
HTC Inspire (just keeps getting better)
Infuse (The best screen out there)
My favorite of all is the Infuse, except it doesn't make Chai Latte' with a dash of cinnamon and nutmeg.
There are hundreds of phones out there to choose from for hundreds of different needs, likes and dislikes.
There are a lot of critics over cell phones, but any of the top brands and top models are going to be just right for someone. Manufactures are cranking out new models faster than the first recharge. The Infuse I have is an engineering marvel. You just can't beat Samsung, HTC, Motorola, Palm, BB, LG, Nokia, Apple, etc.
I still have an old Qualcomm from around 1995. I keep it as a reminder of how far phones have come in just a few years.
The Infuse is a top-of-the-line SmartPhone. The only complaint I have about it is: No External LED notification lights.
The hottest phone I'm hearing about and reading about is the Samsung Galaxy S II 4G
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I also upgraded from the Cappy, And I'm completely lovin' the Infuse. Even tho the SGSII is releasing, I'm probably gonna stick to this bad boy. (Maybe). But still Cappy or Infuse both are great phones, Infuse just knocks the captivate out with more upgraded features. Its like BumbleBee in transformers, The old Camaro, the to the new camaro.
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nothing wrong with the ol cappy, nor the infuse. hell verizon customers need to make a choice, tegra2 or lte. all the lte phones have single core 1ghz processors. all the dual core phones are 3g. they had to either drop or delay the bionic due to heat issues. instead they released a 3g droid x2 with the tegra chipset.
id rather have a nice thin samsung than all that stuff they have on verizon, and i can do without the sgs2 for now. ill get next years varient though im sure. i cant keep a phone for 2 years anymore. i have an obsession.
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i cant keep a phone for 2 years anymore. i have an obsession.
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At least I know I'm not alone anymore
For some reason I always feel the need to upgrade my phone every 6mo or so. Right now have the iPhone so it makes it easier to stay with 1 phone for a full year. Android moves so quick that I'm always trying to find that perfect phone that does everything imaginable for me.
I sell mobile phones for a living and every time I unbox an Infuse and fire it up I'm blown away. I prefer Samsung phones, had the Vibrant and Nexus S. Currently I have a G2x and I couldn't be more disappointed. I'm so close to switching over to the Infuse....
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The Infuse is my first Android. I switched over from an iPhone 3G. And oh my goodness what an upgrade it was. I can never go back to an iPhone with it's baby-sized screen. The Infuse is one of my best purchases ever and I have not looked back since. I thought I could never live without my iPhone. Then came my Infuse and 2 days later, I sold my iPhone with no regrets at all. Go with the Infuse. It is amazing. And Netflix just released for it, making it even sweeter.