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Now that everyone is happy to get root back. What do you think the next big thing coming for this phone is.
Qtronix
I want to see something like OpenArena get ported :-D, or some game that actually uses the 3D power on this jawn!! Pref FPS and using the accelorameter.
Anyways, good looks to everyone who helped in getting this going, I was stuck with an unrooted rc30 for a minute!! thanks!!!
When I get time, I want to play around and see if any emulators can run and access the framebuffer without going through Java.
Plenty of the major console emulators (nintendo, sega, arcades, neo-geo, etc.) have been compiled to run on ARM processors already (GP2X/GP32). I'd love to see them on a G1, tho it might take doing the Debian thing to get to where they'd actually work.
Free sim unlock Or porting windows mobile
Yeah another 1+ for Windows Mobile on the G1.
More apps being developed that require root, (Home Today Screen) like WinMo....
Someone should just write out a list of things to do after root.
Can you WinMo-on-G1 guys keep your posts on this thread pretty please? That way the rest of us only have to ignore one thread.
I'm a little disappointed* that the pace of things is going so slow. I don't recall the timeline but when the iPhone was hacked, there were little programs popping out all over the place as people recompiled things for the OS.
*I'm not a programmer so I'm not going to tell others how to do their work. I presume native apps are coming and I'll be grateful when they get here at whatever pace.
What about flash? Iphone has a little app that lets them use flash. When's ours coming?
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I'm a little disappointed* that the pace of things is going so slow. I don't recall the timeline but when the iPhone was hacked, there were little programs popping out all over the place as people recompiled things for the OS.
*I'm not a programmer so I'm not going to tell others how to do their work. I presume native apps are coming and I'll be grateful when they get here at whatever pace.
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Let's see.... iPhone came out how long ago? They still don't have cut & paste? They still don't have MMS? They still don't have ...... A LOT
Yet you are worried about the pace we are seeing things? Sorry, but major problems are being resolved daily.
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What about flash? Iphone has a little app that lets them use flash. When's ours coming?
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It's already been developed, just give it some time to actually be released.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghIGj9r3_vc&eurl=http://www.i4u.com/article21711.html
Here's a question; now that we are all free from forced OTAs....
Will we know when cupcake gets released?
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Here's a question; now that we are all free from forced OTAs....
Will we know when cupcake gets released?
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isn't that kind of a silly question?
how many times a day do you check these forums, or other android news sites?
Our google friends are working hard we are developing a lot of thing at the moment if you hop on irc once in a while it filled with devs. G1 it juss take time u got to wait. I been trying to get copy and paste ported but it need to developed in the sdk better. I am also porting touchflo to g1, well a knock off verison lol.
I would like to see desktop widgets. Like an RSS reader, weather forcasts, and music player.
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isn't that kind of a silly question?
how many times a day do you check these forums, or other android news sites?
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Is it really though? Granted, while we will all eventually get it, would you know if it was being pushed OTA right this second? Historically, one or two people got the OTA update and they announced it.
However, now that everyone has OTA blocked (minus the people that don't bother and also don't frequent boards)...who is going to tell us if Google doesn't post something up the very second it is available?
then youll have to wait a few days.
Check the t-mobile forums, nothing yet.
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However, now that everyone has OTA blocked (minus the people that don't bother and also don't frequent boards)...who is going to tell us if Google doesn't post something up the very second it is available?
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There's alway the question of the dev phones. No OTA update for them anyway, and google is going to tell the devs to upgrade their phone. There will probably be some kind of announce on android-development mailing lists as well.
Don't worry, we'll know, one way or the other
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There's alway the question of the dev phones. No OTA update for them anyway, and google is going to tell the devs to upgrade their phone. There will probably be some kind of announce on android-development mailing lists as well.
Don't worry, we'll know, one way or the other
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(Shaking hands & Jumping impatiently)
But I wanna know NOOOW
Our updates are blocked really? I honestly wondered if our phones downloaded the updates then tried installing the update or it sends the keys then updates. But the answer is not that important to search. As for things being done I believe Jf recompiled busybox from 1.8 mb to 700k and linked it to the system. That's a big step forward
Before I get flamed, I just want to say that I couldn't find a thread after a search. "DS" is pretty short for a search
Looking at the DS's specifications (understand that we'd only need to look at the specs of the ORIGINAL DS; they can play any game that the others can), it seems very doable: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_DS#Technical_specifications
Here's the NDS emulation link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_DS_emulation
An open-source NDS emulator written in C++ for Windows: http://dualis.1emu.net/files/index.html
It's been done for Windows, the specs appear to be doable, so I was just wondering...what's stopping us?!
it may be just me... lol..........
but i'm pretty sure the ds utilizes 2 screens.................................
my hd2 only has 1..... maybe mine's defective??
How is it done on the PC? It's split down the middle. The touch (or on PC, mouse) is only active on the bottom. Next time try thinking before making a wise comment
i know. what a jerk. ignorant people make ignorant comments
I imagine it would be if someone put in the time. Haven't seen alot of interest though
Hi
I had a look at the wiki page you pointed to and I think the Emulation link may be more helpful, I can't check any of those out as I'm at work and the fun police have blocked them :/
Wiki emulation link is;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_DS_emulation
Maybe there are some developers on those sites which are interested in working on a version for winmo, similar to FPSECE the PS1 emulator for winmo devices.
Again, just putting some helpful information out there: http://www.ndsemulator.com/nds-emulator.htm
Also note that we wouldn't need the ARM 7 processor because it's used solely for GBA emulation on the DS (or am I incorrect?). Here is what I can find as the "best" emulator for PC: http://www.emulator-zone.com/doc.php/gba/nocashgba.html
I'd love to have this functional on my HD2. Not only does it take advantage of the touch screen, but the iffy multitouch support wouldn't even be necessary - the DS doesn't support it itself!
@lexx-luthor
Thanks for the link, hope you don't mind if I throw it in the first post.
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How is it done on the PC? It's split down the middle. The touch (or on PC, mouse) is only active on the bottom. Next time try thinking before making a wise comment
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lol funny... try thinking before you post kid...
comparing a fully running pc.. and its MONITOR... i'd be shocked if it didn't run ds games.... are you still a little confused here??
and before i totally crush your little dreams of playing a nintendo ds on your hd2... it's just plain and simply not possible.. the end...
think about the buttons.. .. lets say we did split the hd 2 screen in half.... so a portion of it would be the touch screen... where would the "nintendo ds hardware buttons be??
think morph gear.. think playstation emulator.....
there would have to be a gamepad.. on the lower half of the screen.... which would probably get in the way of what was supposed to be the "touch" part of the ds.....
so yea.. forgive my tone.. if they are insulting to you.. but common sense is something i take a little seriously..... especially if someone is gonna try and "correct" someone....
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Does it really take a fully-fuctional PC to emulate a 67 MHz processor and 32 MB of RAM? Is the HD2's 1 GHz processor and 448 MB RAM not enough, even if the game does peak and use all of the 67 MHz and 32 MB? Why would a monitor make a difference at all? If the screen is split, the top part would act as a monitor. So, again, if you're going to be an ass then think about what you're going to say first.
It would be possible the same way that FPSECE is - with a Bluetooth controller such as the BGP100: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_667zwB3nLE
I feel like I'm "correcting" you quite well actually. So, again, thanks for trying. Anything else?
Lol!
Should re name this the *****in thread!
No, no one has released anything that will play NDS games.. yet...
I agree, It wouldn't be very functional with the lay out along with the additional buttons needed. Your right, you could add the controller however wouldn't be a very practical emulator if you HAD to have one, would it?
So bottom line, I very much doubt you'll see one, not for a while anyway.
No need to hate on people for giving their opinion, and personally I like people with a sense of humor!
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Should re name this the *****in thread!
No, no one has released anything that will play NDS games.. yet...
I agree, It wouldn't be very functional with the lay out along with the additional buttons needed. Your right, you could add the controller however wouldn't be a very practical emulator if you HAD to have one, would it?
So bottom line, I very much doubt you'll see one, not for a while anyway.
No need to hate on people for giving their opinion, and personally I like people with a sense of humor!
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@Projekt
Why couldn't you just answer in a manner such as that?
I do agree that it would be less than optimal to require a controller, but FPSECE requires one as well and there are many people that use it as far as I know. I understand why you say that we may not see one for a while, but I'd rather keep dreaming
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@Projekt
Why couldn't you just answer in a manner such as that?
I do agree that it would be less than optimal to require a controller, but FPSECE requires one as well and there are many people that use it as far as I know. I understand why you say that we may not see one for a while, but I'd rather keep dreaming
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There are a few things I've been dreaming about for a while but I agree,
You never know!
somethings you know..... not gonna happen... at least on your hd2's life span....
not quite sure what you corrected?? cause it seems like i was right??
i'm not sure.. i honestly think you're STILL confused... which is making me confsued...
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All these ..... are getting me confused!!
I agree with snowblind, its probably very possible just a little impractical. Personally I can't really see the point in gaming on a mobile phone with a controller. If I want to do that I'll just go on my 360 or PS3.
I heard the next iteration of the DS will have phone capabilities built in. You heard it here first!
Edit: Its work in progress but here is version 0.1...
http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/ds_charm.jpg
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All these ..... are getting me confused!!
I agree with snowblind, its probably very possible just a little impractical. Personally I can't really see the point in gaming on a mobile phone with a controller. If I want to do that I'll just go on my 360 or PS3.
I heard the next iteration of the DS will have phone capabilities built in. You heard it here first!
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lol
i somehow doubt that as well... not saying that it couldn't happen... but like the OP's idea... it is just simply not gonna work...
nintendo would have to start a whole new service... for their phone services... despite the financial aspect of it... starting a phone company isn't as easy as 1,2,3....
but ehh.. people can dream.... i'm not gonna argue about that... just stick to the classics yea OP?? morphGear is fantastic... and playing true classics like that on my mobile phone is a dream come true... the ds is already a "mobile" device... its a handheld gaming unit... therefore making it on the phone would more so be a way to "show off" the phones capabilities... (which are gonna become obsolete in about a year... but thats a different topic..) rather then a practical use... morphgear or playstation emulators are perfect because i simply cannot take my super nintendo everywhere... nor my PSOne.... are ya getting it now??
*sigh* i didn't realize you were being sarcastic.. you posted that link after i posted my reply... lol..
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*sigh* i didn't realize you were being sarcastic.. you posted that link after i posted my reply... lol..
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the winking smiley was just to subtle then lol.
While we are at it I'd love an amiga emulator so I could play James Pond Robocod again... EPIC!
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the winking smiley was just to subtle then lol.
While we are at it I'd love an amiga emulator so I could play James Pond Robocod again... EPIC!
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Lol!
Lovin this thread!
An Amiga emulator would be nice however I'm after a Dos box app, want to get playing Chaos Engine!!!!
Then I will be happy!
Update: Im going to order one of those bluetooth pads so I can play Wipeout on the move, lol. Couldnt resist when I saw the price of it here!
Should be fun!
so im about to do it. been wanting a tablet for some time and as nice as the xoom looks for 1/2 the price this make sense.
can a newbie root? i dont know the first thing about programming. ive searched the forums, and i see roms, and all these things i dont even know what they are. TNT programs, which sound not so newb friendly lol....and i want to know if there is a basic root that i may be able to follow. root for dummies is what im looking for.
and also, if i screw this up can i revert back to the original way this thing was?
sorta nervous to order and not use it to the fullest potential but seems like without rooting its not worth a crap.
i know probably asked 100 times, but ive searched and just cant find basic rooting 101 concepts. read the faqs - nothing so straight forward that i found.
thanks in advance. if i find the support i need here which seems likely im going to order the viewsonic shortly
First, welcome!
And then...
Start here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245
This was the post that helped me the most. Have you rooted and installed new ROMs on Android devices before? It's not difficult, but does require that every last instruction is read. Twice. And look at posts about people "bricking" their tablets to see what they might have done wrong, or what they had to do to fix their problems. Don't worry about rooting; I've rooted a MyTouch 3g, a TMobile Vibrant and this tablet and it was the easiest by far. I'd like to say that the stock software sucks, but I can't. I purchased this tablet because I knew I would be rooting and ROMing and only had about ten minutes in the store and ten minutes at home with the original software. It wasn't horrible, but I do know that Vegan 5.1 flies and is very stable.
READ READ READ and search your face off for your problems before posting. Many people frown on oft asked questions here. I see a lot of people writing about how easy it is to search to get your answer, but I'm not a fan of the XDA search function for many reasons. So, Google is your friend. When searching Google, be sure to state your issue clearly and concisely, and in as few words as possible. Oh, but do include "XDA" in your search, or "site:forum.xda-developers.com" if you want to only search the XDA Developers forum.
Happy modding!
(1) We don't mind newbies, although it's nice if they actually respect the hard work of the people here by pressing the shift button to capitalize where appropriate. It would also be appreciated if they don't use run-on sentences.
(2) We highly recommend against modding for people like you. Just turn it on, update what viewsonic has for you, and everything will run just fine. We recommend you play with the gtab for a while before taking the plunge.
(3) You don't need to know programming to root. This thread will give you step by step instructions on how to do the essential things of modding. These instructions are so easy even a cave man could do it.
(4) That said, again, their stock rom + update should be good enough for someone like you. I have 2 gtabs. I've modded one and kept the other one as is. Trust me, it's more than sufficient for your needs.
thank u!!! im going to review that. now thats a detailed step by step which couldnt be answered easily but somehow seems doable for a newbie thanks. brings me closer to ordering.
I somehow doubt you read everything I said.
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I somehow doubt you read everything I said.
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Don't be condescending. Were you born knowing how to root and mod a G Tab? Let people ask questions, and if you don't want to answer then don't.
adampdx said:
Don't be condescending. Were you born knowing how to root and mod a G Tab? Let people ask questions, and if you don't want to answer then don't.
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I was referring to the part where he refuses to use the shift key. It's a pet peeve of mine. To me, it's a sign of respect to talk properly and write properly.
goodintentions - I was thanking adampdx but appreciate your input as well. I read his reply and his link provided and at first glance it seemed helpful. With that said, I also appreciate you letting me know the stock VS GT is pretty good and perhaps I will leave it as is when I get it. People make it out to be like this thing is so unsable out of the box, which apparently isnt the case. I just want to be able to get to the market and download a few apps I like using on my droid pro phone, thats all. Additionally I will use capitals and try watching the run on sentences. I was just excited to post and get involved.
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I was referring to the part where he refuses to use the shift key. It's a pet peeve of mine. To me, it's a sign of respect to talk properly and write properly.
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I think your whole thing is condescending, including that rant you posted in the General section about the "wooters". If you wanted to be helpful you could do a write up and review about the stock ROM and make suggestions of what to do to make it better. This singling out of a group of people is rude and dangerous. You create an environment that is hostile and discourages fresh ideas. There are always kinder words to use and gentler ways to guide people.
goodintentions said:
I was referring to the part where he refuses to use the shift key. It's a pet peeve of mine. To me, it's a sign of respect to talk properly and write properly.
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Well, better to not use it at all than TO USE IT EVERYWHERE. Arrghgh stop shouting!!!
(btw, trying to defuse the situation with a very bad attempt at a joke)
roebeet said:
Well, better to not use it at all than TO USE IT EVERYWHERE. Arrghgh stop shouting!!!
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Thanks for a little comic relief.
adampdx said:
I think your whole thing is condescending, including that rant you posted in the General section about the "wooters". If you wanted to be helpful you could do a write up and review about the stock ROM and make suggestions of what to do to make it better. This singling out of a group of people is rude and dangerous. You create an environment that is hostile and discourages fresh ideas. There are always kinder words to use and gentler ways to guide people.
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Not to mention there be members who may not use English as a primary language and therefore may not be familiar with all of its intricacies. Respect begets respect. You get more when you offer more.
Well, here is my thought on why people are giving it such bad reviews.
(1) They compared it to the ipad right out of the box. Yes, the stock UI isn't the greatest thing, but it's usable. And after the update, it should work just fine.
(2) People were expecting an ipad when they bought this device. This is why I've been repeating over and over that this ain't no ipad.
(3) People have money coming out of their ears, so they want the bests and greatests. The slightest disadvantage and they will make it sound like the tablet exploded or something.
(4) Which brings me to my next point. People like to exaggerate.
I've always been a simple person. I like to work with what I have. I also hate Apple products with a passion. I only own one Apple product. I got my ipod (30 gig one) as a gift years ago. I've been thinking for a while to look for something that is light weight so I could drag it along for work and other activities. My laptop seems like it weighs a ton some time. That said, after I've done the appropriate moddings and installed the apps I wanted, the viewsonic gtab seems like a dream come true for me. It works incredibly fast. I didn't buy this thing to watch videos and listen to music. I have my tv and ipod for that. That said, I really think viewsonic is sitting on top of a goldmine with this device. I don't know why they haven't done more to publicize it.
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Not to mention there be members who may not use English as a primary language and therefore may not be familiar with all of its intricacies. Respect begets respect. You get more when you offer more.
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Oh, please, I can tell the difference between a non-engrish speaker and someone who's just lazy. I'm a non-native english speaker. In another thread, I mentioned that I was born in a house with a dirt floor and grew up with a 4 inch black and white tv. I wasn't kidding.
adampdx said:
I think your whole thing is condescending, including that rant you posted in the General section about the "wooters". If you wanted to be helpful you could do a write up and review about the stock ROM and make suggestions of what to do to make it better. This singling out of a group of people is rude and dangerous. You create an environment that is hostile and discourages fresh ideas. There are always kinder words to use and gentler ways to guide people.
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Well, I apologize if what I said offended some people. But what I stated was a fact. Because of all the exaggerated reviews of how god-aweful the stock UI and screen are, average people get the wrong idea. They feel that they have to mod the device the moment they get their hands on it.
All I'm suggesting people do is give the updated stock rom a chance. Give it a few days before they decide to take the plunge. There's really no prettier way to say it.
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Oh, please, I can tell the difference between a non-engrish speaker...
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There it is, the racist card. I was wondering when that one would come out.
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There it is, the racist card. I was wondering when that one would come out.
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Good job for picking that up, considering I was born and grew up in eastern Asia... nice going with the nitpick.
You don't have to be white to be racist or self-hating.
Ah, all of this being said, I do think this whole thing is funny and a giant waste of time. I've also been noticing that the forums seem sluggish, and I'm getting strange messages from the server from time to time about not being able to load forum pages. I think all of our babble is bogging down the servers. And with the impending onslaught of wooters, we should probably knock it off.
goodintentions, your making the xda forums look bad.
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You don't have to be white to be racist or self-hating.
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Wait, hang on. So, joking is racist? You mean you can't tell the difference between a joke and a racist comment? Is this, like, the twilight zone where noone has any common sense at all?
Look, I'm not asking for perfect composition to be published in academia here. but towrite somthin without regard to how it loks to the people your asking for help looks like you dont care for their eeffort s and your just passing buy. its also had to understand runon sentences and... suc
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You don't have to be white to be racist or self-hating.
Ah, all of this being said, I do think this whole thing is funny and a giant waste of time. I've also been noticing that the forums seem sluggish, and I'm getting strange messages from the server from time to time about not being able to load forum pages. I think all of our babble is bogging down the servers. And with the impending onslaught of wooters, we should probably knock it off.
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hahaha I was thinking the same thing. Tomorrow's XDA headline --- "Wooters bring down XDA".
I need to take my Woot-Off lights out soon, perhaps?
If there is anyone out there can help me root my HTC inspire 4g. I tried everything and nothing is working. I just want to get rid of these useless apps and better battery life cause right now this phone is useless. Please help
cesimoneaux
Read the sticky in General. It has vids and all the informatiomn you need.
Best thing I can tell you, before you get flamed for that post, is read. Also, you need to be more specific with your issue. If you want someone to hand hold you through the process, your probably not going to find the help you are looking for. Reading and searching are your friends. I am not being mean in anyway. People have gotten flamed in the past for a post like that. First, you didn't say if you've already searched. Second, you mention very little detail of your problem. Third, you don't mention which rooting method you are using and where you are in the process. Just on the last point alone, I think you are trying to have someone walk you through the process. In which case, you don't need to root if you won't take the time to read, read, and read again, and try the process yourself. Not trying to jump on ya, just from your post it seems like you are not even trying to help yourself first. If you have a genuine issue, please, give us more detail to make an effort to help you.
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Read the sticky in General. It has vids and all the informatiomn you need.
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cesimoneaux said:
If there is anyone out there can help me root my HTC inspire 4g. I tried everything and nothing is working. I just want to get rid of these useless apps and better battery life cause right now this phone is useless. Please help
cesimoneaux
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So... The phone is useless as it is? Why would you buy a useless phone?
Because you didnt discover it was useless until it was too late, like, after 31 days of having it?
Don't blame the phone for your inability to do what 90% of the people in these sections of XDA managed to do just fine.
Now, maybe you should go do a little reading.
Then, if, after you've made an honest attempt to figure it out using the plethora of resources at your disposal here, you still run into problems, and are willing to provide a little more insight into the nature of your specific problem, people might be a bit more willing to lend a hand.
Good luck!
Man rooting an inspire is not that hard. You just need to follow directions. Read up on the root methods available watch the videos choose your preferred method read the tutorial and watch the video AGAIN then do it. 99% of the time it will work. I used the hack kit But ive heard bubbys works great too. My inspire was rooted 20 mins after I got it. But I read and watched the videos long before it arrived. It really isnt something you should just decide to do on a whim. You should really understand the process and what each individual step does before attempting.
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Scott_S said:
So... The phone is useless as it is? Why would you buy a useless phone?
Because you didnt discover it was useless until it was too late, like, after 31 days of having it?
Don't blame the phone for your inability to do what 90% of the people in these sections of XDA managed to do just fine.
Now, maybe you should go do a little reading.
Then, if, after you've made an honest attempt to figure it out using the plethora of resources at your disposal here, you still run into problems, and are willing to provide a little more insight into the nature of your specific problem, people might be a bit more willing to lend a hand.
Good luck!
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Oh geeze, here we go, everyone here at xda is omnipitant, not everone knows every aspect of this site, if he/she doesnt know how to root why would you expect them to know where/how to search and what to read if they did, some people do deserve a break hes just frustrated.
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Man rooting an inspire is not that hard. You just need to follow directions. Read up on the root methods available watch the videos choose your preferred method read the tutorial and watch the video AGAIN then do it. 99% of the time it will work. I used the hack kit But ive heard bubbys works great too. My inspire was rooted 20 mins after I got it. But I read and watched the videos long before it arrived. It really isnt something you should just decide to do on a whim. You should really understand the process and what each individual step does before attempting.
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Hes right,
The main part of being successful with these devices is everything he said, you really shoud read,read,watch whatever it takes to be totally sure about the process. You must be very careful if its your first time, and at the same time, ive learned, you cant let it intimedate you, it will be much harder and that much easier to mess up. If you do all these things and are still not sure or dont feel right about doing it, find somone close to you that can.
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Oh geeze, here we go, everyone here at xda is omnipitant, not everone knows every aspect of this site, if he/she doesnt know how to root why would you expect them to know where/how to search and what to read if they did, some people do deserve a break hes just frustrated.
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Well, for one thing, if by "omnipitant" you mean *omnipotent*, then you probably *really* meant *omniscient*, so I understand what you meant. I think.
What I don't understand, however, is why you think that someone who doesn't know how to root shouldn't be expected to know how to search for information about rooting.
Perhaps you might better explain to me your logic?
Ok, your right. I should have been more direct.
By "omnipotent" i ment -all knowing.
My point is. People will never stop asking for help on this site, it will just never happen, nor will they ever stop being ignorant, ie. Not reading enough not following directions. I understand it gets old, but its one thing if hes new, its another if this is the 5th time hes been told. I just think you took the wrong approach at teaching him, there is such a thing as positive reinforcement, hes already frustrated, treating him like hes an idiot will get us all no where, well, most of us. We were all new at some point or another
Now, what does not seem even a tad bit logical to me is, getting offended over a damn cell phone
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Ok, your right. I should have been more direct.
By "omnipotent" i ment -all knowing.
My point is. People will never stop asking for help on this site, it will just never happen, nor will they ever stop being ignorant, ie. Not reading enough not following directions. I understand it gets old, but its one thing if hes new, its another if this is the 5th time hes been told. I just think you took the wrong approach at teaching him, there is such a thing as positive reinforcement, hes already frustrated, treating him like hes an idiot will get us all no where, well, most of us. We were all new at some point or another
Now, what does not seem even a tad bit logical to me is, getting offended over a damn cell phone
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Alright, now that I understand what you are saying a bit better, I agree, people won't ever stop asking for help, or being ignorant.
And as long as I have this phone and am otherwise able to, I won't ever stop helping people. . . but not if they post out of frustration, *expecting people here on XDA to be "omniscient"*, knowing exactly how to fix their problem with only the vaguest of details provided.
Posting when pissed is about as productive as blogging while drunk.
And, the op insulted my phone. NO ONE talks **** about my phone...
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Alright, now that I understand what you are saying a bit better, I agree, people won't ever stop asking for help, or being ignorant.
And as long as I have this phone and am otherwise able to, I won't ever stop helping people. . . but not if they post out of frustration, *expecting people here on XDA to be "omniscient"*, knowing exactly how to fix their problem with only the vaguest of details provided.
Posting when pissed is about as productive as blogging while drunk.
And, the op insulted my phone. NO ONE talks **** about my phone...
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Think of him as an infant, a new born. He doesnt know any better. I dont think he posted out of frustration, i think it is more of a cry for help.
but besides all that, hopefully we've all learned something today. I know I have.
For years i've thought i knew what "omnipotent" means lol! Learn somethin knew everyday.
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Alright, now that I understand what you are saying a bit better, I agree, people won't ever stop asking for help, or being ignorant.
And as long as I have this phone and am otherwise able to, I won't ever stop helping people. . . but not if they post out of frustration, *expecting people here on XDA to be "omniscient"*, knowing exactly how to fix their problem with only the vaguest of details provided.
Posting when pissed is about as productive as blogging while drunk.
And, the op insulted my phone. NO ONE talks **** about my phone...
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Scott has always been helpful to me. And I have always seen him helpful to others that have made the effort to learn and couldn't figure something out. There's a reason his thanks meter is at 52.
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Think of him as an infant, a new born. He doesnt know any better. I dont think he posted out of frustration, i think it is more of a cry for help.
but besides all that, hopefully we've all learned something today. I know I have.
For years i've thought i knew what "omnipotent" means lol! Learn somethin knew everyday.
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Sad thing is though if he searched he would have seen everyone else getting flamed for this exact same question and type of post. Then he would have known better and how to ask the question and seek help. And Scott I'm going to make a damn sticky on how to search. This they didn't know how to search and cant get past the clutter thing isn't an excuse.
coming from the droid incredible and hero before it.. the inspire is alittle more difficult to root. but if u say take 30 mins out of your day its not that bad.. just stay focused and read and go slow and you will be on your way..
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Scott has always been helpful to me. And I have always seen him helpful to others that have made the effort to learn and couldn't figure something out. There's a reason his thanks meter is at 52.
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Thanks. Likewise....
My jaw hit the floor yesterday when I visited the browser version of the site and saw that 52.
Last time I checked it was like at 16 or something.
Using the XDA app really isolates a person, I guess.
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Think of him as an infant, a new born. He doesnt know any better. I dont think he posted out of frustration, i think it is more of a cry for help.
but besides all that, hopefully we've all learned something today. I know I have.
For years i've thought i knew what "omnipotent" means lol! Learn somethin knew everyday.
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I get what your saying, but I still wouldn't let an infant try to root a phone.
That water damage indicator wouldn't look so good afterwards.
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I get what your saying, but I still wouldn't let an infant try to root a phone.
That water damage indicator wouldn't look so good afterwards.
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What he is saying is retarded. You did nothing wrong. noobs are expected to read. End of story. If they do not and post anyways, then they should be subject to the redicule that comes with such a blatently assinine posting. Baler is wrong to call anyone out... .. I have the feeling I would find a noobish post by him and the routing there of; If I dug through his postings. Least it would explain his stance. But alas, I care not. Scotts one of the most helpfull nice peeps here.
I wasnt saying he is a bad guy, or hes wrong, it just looked to me like he was jumping on the guy. Now you guys know him alot more than I do, I even think hes helped me with a few things, one or two of those thanks are prolly from me. but if everyone really feels this way, ill prolly stop defending noobs then, unless its worth the time.
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I wasnt saying he is a bad guy, or hes wrong, it just looked to me like he was jumping on the guy. Now you guys know him alot more than I do, I even think hes helped me with a few things, one or two of those thanks are prolly from me. but if everyone really feels this way, ill prolly stop defending noobs then, unless its worth the time.
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It probably looked like I was jumping on the guy because I was. A little. Thin skins don't do well, here, though.
There's nothing wrong with defending someone, when appropriate, I've done it I think, maybe a total of 3 or 4 times, all cases where a user was unfairly blamed for something or was made to feel like they weren't a worthwhile contributor or called a name because they weren't able to answer someone's question to their satisfaction.
All I'm saying is that XDA is less noob-centric than other forums. That's not to say noobs shouldn't come here to learn...I lost my basic noobness here (and I say basic, 'cause I don't know half the **** some people here do) ... Just that there's an expectation to fulfill some prerequisite familiarization with one's device, and to be at least a little proficient in problem-solving on one's own before posting.
I just saw this site listed in an article on AndroidSPIN. Here's the link to the article:
A New Solution for Finding Tablet Optimized Applications
The part of the article that piqued my interest the most was this:
It’s not an alternative market but rather, it displays apps that have been SPECIFICALLY designed for tablets then links them back to the Android Market. Many devs claim their apps are optimized for tablets but in truth, they simply mean the app now stretches to fill the screen on a tablet-that’s far from being optimized. None of this “optimized” nonsense here. Each app is tested to make sure that it is actually designed for tablets; meaning the UI has been enhanced in some way to take advantage of the large display. It’s definitely worth a look. Thanks!
The site it refers to is: Tablified Apps
It's worth a look.
hey bro i saw the site, it looks good , i was looking for something like this, thanks for the heads up
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theres a section in the market specifially for this...
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theres a section in the market specifially for this...
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Really? Where?
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theres a section in the market specifially for this...
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....umm no there isn't. I hope your not talking about the "featured tablet app" section because that's a sorry excuse for one.
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This site just made me sad. It is a great idea and I appreciate the work put in, but it only serves to highlight the utter lack of tablet optimized apps currently available for Android.
Great site. Thanks for this (Thanks button used with pleasure). I've only had a quick scroll and already found two apps that I hadn't heard of that look really good.
It's great to see people furthering the cause of Android tablet optimised apps. The more exposure there is, the more developers are going to be encouraged to develop for tablets.
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Really? Where?
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i believe it is only there in america.
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Really? Where?
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It all depends which country you live in. I think it's only in the USA you get the tablets section (possibly Canada too).
Edit: well I hate to be a killjoy but the first app I saw on that site is the game 'Stupid Zombies', which isn't a tablet optimised or made for tablet app at all and certainly isnt a 'true' tablet app. So not sure how that site is sorting apps just for tablets, and perhaps others on there are the same, but I didnt look further. Maybe that's a one off.
A lot of tablet apps are missing from that site.
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i believe it is only there in america.
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Nope, there's just "Featured Tablet Apps" section.
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A lot of tablet apps are missing from that site.
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Some examples of the missing apps would help, is there any other pace that has a more comprehensive list ?
If you found a missing app, there s a "submit an app" section on the main page. This site should fulfil itself if people just take 1 minutes to share their discovery.
Now what really is missing is : ..... A TABLET App ! trololololol.
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Some examples of the missing apps would help, is there any other pace that has a more comprehensive list ?
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here on XDA of course
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032381
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It all depends which country you live in. I think it's only in the USA you get the tablets section (possibly Canada too).
Edit: well I hate to be a killjoy but the first app I saw on that site is the game 'Stupid Zombies', which isn't a tablet optimised or made for tablet app at all and certainly isnt a 'true' tablet app. So not sure how that site is sorting apps just for tablets, and perhaps others on there are the same, but I didnt look further. Maybe that's a one off.
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let me explain how it works for games because there isnt a clear cut line. a games doesnt need to be 3.0 specific for it to work on tablets. people complain about not having a tablet games section then complain when i put a game up. this is how i determine if the game is a tablet game or not. i actually look at the Apple app store version. Stupid Zombies is a tablet game. how do i know? because the same version of that game is offerred on the iPad and on the iPhone. I know this because you see that theres is only one version of the game in the app store and there is a little "plus" sign on the corner of the app icon. this game was designed for tablets and phones. same thing applies for the Android market. Im not sure if you even bothered playing the version of stupid zombies on the ipad and iphone/ipod...but i have. theres no difference between the two. i spend a lot of time testing these apps and games. if one app didnt make you want to look any further, well, i guess its your loss then. i hope people understand that its not always clear cut. thats why theres a voting section. if you think the game/app shouldnt be on the list then please send me a quick msg. it takes two seconds. theres a button right under the app that says "send enquiry". notify me and ill let the people decide if it should be on the list or not. perhaps i should add stupid zombies to the app voting section.
as for the people who have apparently gone through the entire site in a day, im sorry i cant fill the apps fast enough...im the only person doing this right now. hopefully help comes soon. if you find an app then take a second and submit the app. thanks!
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let me explain how it works for games because there isnt a clear cut line. a games doesnt need to be 3.0 specific for it to work on tablets. people complain about not having a tablet games section then complain when i put a game up. this is how i determine if the game is a tablet game or not. i actually look at the Apple app store version. Stupid Zombies is a tablet game. how do i know? because the same version of that game is offerred on the iPad and on the iPhone. I know this because you see that theres is only one version of the game in the app store and there is a little "plus" sign on the corner of the app icon. this game was designed for tablets and phones. same thing applies for the Android market. Im not sure if you even bothered playing the version of stupid zombies on the ipad and iphone/ipod...but i have. theres no difference between the two. i spend a lot of time testing these apps and games. if one app didnt make you want to look any further, well, i guess its your loss then. i hope people understand that its not always clear cut. thats why theres a voting section. if you think the game/app shouldnt be on the list then please send me a quick msg. it takes two seconds. theres a button right under the app that says "send enquiry". notify me and ill let the people decide if it should be on the list or not. perhaps i should add stupid zombies to the app voting section.
as for the people who have apparently gone through the entire site in a day, im sorry i cant fill the apps fast enough...im the only person doing this right now. hopefully help comes soon. if you find an app then take a second and submit the app. thanks!
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I agree with this methodology 100%. Keep in mind this site is brand new and is still growing. That coupled with the sad fact as many of you have pointed out that there are just not that many Tablet designed apps just yet. Give the site a chance folks contribute to the list... we will all benefit from it in my opinion... not that it should mean much since I just joined.... but still!
as far as stupid zombies I play that game on my transformer daily (its addicting) based on the above criteria it fits as a tablet app imho
Thanks and I am glad to be a part of this community and looking forward to getting flamed/ accepted here.
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let me explain how it works for games because there isnt a clear cut line. a games doesnt need to be 3.0 specific for it to work on tablets. people complain about not having a tablet games section then complain when i put a game up. this is how i determine if the game is a tablet game or not. i actually look at the Apple app store version. Stupid Zombies is a tablet game. how do i know? because the same version of that game is offerred on the iPad and on the iPhone. I know this because you see that theres is only one version of the game in the app store and there is a little "plus" sign on the corner of the app icon. this game was designed for tablets and phones. same thing applies for the Android market. Im not sure if you even bothered playing the version of stupid zombies on the ipad and iphone/ipod...but i have. theres no difference between the two. i spend a lot of time testing these apps and games. if one app didnt make you want to look any further, well, i guess its your loss then. i hope people understand that its not always clear cut. thats why theres a voting section. if you think the game/app shouldnt be on the list then please send me a quick msg. it takes two seconds. theres a button right under the app that says "send enquiry". notify me and ill let the people decide if it should be on the list or not. perhaps i should add stupid zombies to the app voting section.
as for the people who have apparently gone through the entire site in a day, im sorry i cant fill the apps fast enough...im the only person doing this right now. hopefully help comes soon. if you find an app then take a second and submit the app. thanks!
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You totally misunderstood what I was saying and the tone. I wasn't slating your site by only saying id looked at one. I was saying id looked at one and not had time to look at more, and was unsure if all the apps were not 'true' apps or not, so i didnt want to judge just from looking at one, just report back immediate findings. I can see why you thought that though. I applaud your efforts.
Anyway I disagree with your thoughts on 'if an app is works fine on an ipad it must be ok in honeycomb, or for an android tablet', but hey if all humans agreed with each other the world would be a boring place. In the case of stupid zombies yes it works fine in honeycomb but its still not a 'true' tablet app and the developer doesnt claim it to be.
I think we can all agree there arent that many honeycomb specific or optimised apps anyway. Get developing people!
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You totally misunderstood what I was saying and the tone. I wasn't slating your site by only saying id looked at one. I was saying id looked at one and not had time to look at more, and was unsure if all the apps were not 'true' apps or not, so i didnt want to judge just from looking at one, just report back immediate findings. I can see why you thought that though. I applaud your efforts.
Anyway I disagree with your thoughts on 'if an app is works fine on an ipad it must be ok in honeycomb, or for an android tablet', but hey if all humans agreed with each other the world would be a boring place. In the case of stupid zombies yes it works fine in honeycomb but its still not a 'true' tablet app and the developer doesnt claim it to be.
I think we can all agree there arent that many honeycomb specific or optimised apps anyway. Get developing people!
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Please define what a game should have to make it eligible to be called aa tablet game. What should stupid zombies have added to make it a honeycomb/tablet app? Just so I have a reference. Thanks.
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Please define what a game should have to make it eligible to be called aa tablet game. What should stupid zombies have added to make it a honeycomb/tablet app? Just so I have a reference. Thanks.
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The developer claiming that is would be a good start.
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The developer claiming that is would be a good start.
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really? so...
IMDB, Movies and about a dozen other apps dont have any mention of being a tablet app in the market, does that make them not a tablet app? Sure they aren't games but still, by that definition it would weed out a lot more than just games. honestly, if i waited around for all developers to post that their apps are for honeycomb/tablets then i would have nothing on the site.
anyway, until someone give me a better solution for posting up games, im going to do what i think feels right. comparing them to their iPad counterparts is CURRENTLY the best solution there is. i check for graphics, gameplay, controls, etc. if its identical, like how stupid zombies is, then its a tablet game.
games like burn the rope will not be on the list because the controls differ from the ipad. the ipad has on screen controls to move the rope instead of having to wave around your tablet, looking like a fool. so thats an example of where the game looks good on phones and tablets but still NOT for tablets.
i hope this clears some stuff up. if anyone has some suggestions on how we can distinguish tablet games then please let me know. thanks!