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VoIP on Treo 750?

Hi all
I have upgraded my Treo 750 to WM6, but there is not much information about setting up voip on it. I don't know if it is possible, or how to do it.
Antone has more details about it? is it possible? not possible? why?
Thanks in advance

same question. i use voipbuster

Skype
Brazilian Joe said:
Hi all
I have upgraded my Treo 750 to WM6, but there is not much information about setting up voip on it. I don't know if it is possible, or how to do it.
Antone has more details about it? is it possible? not possible? why?
Thanks in advance
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Just use the latest mobile version of skype. Download and install to your mobile and "Bingo" you're on. No configuration needed.

OK, I know what VOIP is, and I understand why you would use it on your home computer. However, I don't understand why would you want to use it on your phone. Is it strictly for those who do a lot of international calling ?? I have the smallest amount of minutes available and have never used them all. (I'm sure others have different uses). But isn't it cheaper/ easier to just add minutes to an existing plan rather than paying for the data plan instead??
Just trying to educate myself a little bit more each day.............

generally VOiP refers to calls over a wifi network, but i would think that there would still be some services that would work just as well provided that you have signal for your cell, so I would assume they would work. Personally the skype setup I think is easiest if you can get folks on there then you can skip all the headaches, other wise it's really dependent on what voip program you are planning on using for your treo, I know when I had my hermes I had some custom software from Schap that allowed an easy setup for VOiP although it wasn't compatible with all ROMs, if anything I suppose you could pop over there and see if it would be compatible or not.

Just to clarfy, I live in Brazil where we have a little cartel of phone companies, so peole pay around US$ 0,75 and US$ 0,20 per minute of conversation. nice isn't it?
The low cost of VoIP offsets the data plan cost in the long run. besides, with voip I dont have to pay extra for long distance and international calls.
As for skype, it's not the cheapest oe out there, and it's not SIP-based. it's way more expensive than other VoIP providers out here.

Dont suppose anyone has found a good way of using WM6's built in SIP for VOIP on the Treo 750?

Call me a heretic, but I have bought a N95-3, so currently I own 2 WM-based devices and 1 S60-based one.
Let me tell you, S60 'jut works'. It has no touchscreen, but it also has gobs of apps (games including), either Symbian or Java based.
What I want to do is simple:
Get a 3G phone with an unlimited data plan, and use 3G to make cals using 3G (and WiFi). I will have internet 'anywhere', and cheap phone calls.
Treo doesn't have WiFi. oh, well... it still has 3G. Although last time I read, Windows Mobile's VoIP was 'maimed', so it wouldn't work on 3G, only WiFi...
It's M$ doing concessions to the cell phone operators at work...
I hope this changes soon. WM is powerful, but not nearly as user-friendly as S60 so far. Yeah, I hope WM7 arrives soon, cause it's supposed to come with new usability guidelines, new apps (in theory) will be much more useable with one hand, and finger touch. But that's a long time away in the future...
I was considering a TyTN 2 or Touch Cruise, but with this video driver bug, I considered using S60 again. And it is really painless to set up, browse the web, use 3G and set up voip. The VoIP call quality was pretty good too.
If anyone knows of a solution for WM's VoIP, or a good 3rd party SIP client (not skype), I'd like to hear about...

Brazilian Joe said:
Just to clarfy, I live in Brazil where we have a little cartel of phone companies, so peole pay around US$ 0,75 and US$ 0,20 per minute of conversation. nice isn't it?
The low cost of VoIP offsets the data plan cost in the long run. besides, with voip I dont have to pay extra for long distance and international calls.
As for skype, it's not the cheapest oe out there, and it's not SIP-based. it's way more expensive than other VoIP providers out here.
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NOW i know why the guy that beat Bill Gates this year and being the currently richest man on the planet OWNS ALL of south america's phone networks... NICEEEE

Anyone had any luck using VoIP on a Treo?
The only solution I found was to use Fring.

Android Phone without cell phone plan

Hi guys,
Was wandering if someone could help me out with, rather, strange question.
I want to use an Android phone to make calls, but do not want to sign up with any cell phone company. I live in New brunswick, Fredericton, we have free wireless internet.
I want to make use of it, but so far I have not found a concrete answer.
I have started a thread about this on another android forums, if you want more details, or just ask me:
http://forums.androidandme.com/topic/how-to-use-free-internet-with-android-without-cell-plan
Any help is Great appreciated!

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...e-accused-over-android-skype-app-block-628218
maybe if they get it to work
with skype you still of cause are charged to pay when you call normal phones

Yeah, that's interesting.
I find the whole situation with cell phone companies stupid, charging outrageous rates for what should really be included in your home internet fee.
In any case, I was wandering if a solution exists for right now It doesn't have to be free, but at least cheaper than buying an unlimited plan from rogers or what-not.

Or are there other phones (except Android) that can do this instead?
Thanks

yes skype is out for
windows mobile
heck even iphone got it
but you have to remember that if you call normal phones
cell or land-line you have to pay skype as they offer the link to
gsm and land-line which have no connection to the Internet you get
when you connect to wifi
just wanted to make sure you didn't have the impression that it was 1 big network
it's not
kinda like one can't send an email to a person with not computer and expect a free service
which print the email and put it in the physically mailbox of the person

I understand that I have to pay skype or someone else for calling landlines. That is Fine with me.
However, with Skype (for example and iphone/windows mobile?), can I use the phone even if I don't have a SIM card/cell phone plan?
Rudegar said:
yes skype is out for
windows mobile
heck even iphone got it
but you have to remember that if you call normal phones
cell or land-line you have to pay skype as they offer the link to
gsm and land-line which have no connection to the Internet you get
when you connect to wifi
just wanted to make sure you didn't have the impression that it was 1 big network
it's not
kinda like one can't send an email to a person with not computer and expect a free service
which print the email and put it in the physically mailbox of the person
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yes you can even use a non phone pda with wifi or an ipod touch
when you have wifi you have the same possibilities as with a computer

That sounds cool. Thanks,
Another question:
Is there a way I can use my phone/pda as a Gps device?
If I have no plan, I can't connect to satelite either?
Or do some phones provide some kind of tom-tom enabled capabilities?

[Q] Will the Nexus S have wifi calling?

As we all know the the Nexus S has VoIP/SIP support and can be turned into a wifi hotspot, does this mean it will also support wifi calling?

What exactly do you think voip/sip are!?
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I've heard about it but I'm not really sure what it does exactly, that I'm here asking.

i'd be sold if this was able to do a uma-like wifi calling.

it'll probably do UMA/t-mobile wi-fi calling once someone ports the app over.

Yes, it will support Wifi calling. I have been running a beta GV with the sip stacks for about a month and works great.

VOIP and UMA are NOT the same thing. One might use Google voice which is VOIP but not UMA. I could care less about Voip but if the Nexus S can't do UMA it is a deal breaker and will just pick up the Mytouch 4G. Already sad that the Nexus isn't 4G and doesn't have external storage but with no UMA support I will just get the Mytouch and wait for gingerbread to make its way to that.

UMA would be nice, but i'm good without it, but i seriously think it'll get ported somehow.

i think what the original poster is getting at, will it be able to use the tmobile wifi calling app.
i have a nexus one with it now so i can make phone calls. i am interested in this as well because i really don't want to pay another provider to make calls on top of what i am currently paying tmobile.

I'm wondering the same thing and this is actually the only feature that has me wanting this phone if it does in fact allow wifi calling.
My Nexus one has a broken usb port and i've been forced to swap batteries the last few months while waiting for the first gingerbread phone to arrive. I was already hoping for so much more like 720p display, dual core, new ui, because it barely feels like it's an upgrade over my N1 as is.
When the official specs were announced I almost considered going to the iphone4 or Samsung Focus but I just can't do AT&T, lol.

Pretty sure G-Voice via VOIP would be better than the original wifi-calling app, anyway. I wasn't all that impressed with the wifi-calling app on N1, honestly.

How so? The T-Mobile app is free and uses your minutes from the calling plan. Gvoice requires payment ontop of your calling plan. I don't want to pay twice for the same service.
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emctwo said:
VOIP and UMA are NOT the same thing. One might use Google voice which is VOIP but not UMA. I could care less about Voip but if the Nexus S can't do UMA it is a deal breaker and will just pick up the Mytouch 4G. Already sad that the Nexus isn't 4G and doesn't have external storage but with no UMA support I will just get the Mytouch and wait for gingerbread to make its way to that.
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If you want uma you will have to get a blackberry, currently the android devices just have gan.
makelegs said:
Pretty sure G-Voice via VOIP would be better than the original wifi-calling app, anyway. I wasn't all that impressed with the wifi-calling app on N1, honestly.
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Wifi calling sucked on the n1, the only device that was usable was the mt4g

robot_agenda said:
How so? The T-Mobile app is free and uses your minutes from the calling plan. Gvoice requires payment ontop of your calling plan. I don't want to pay twice for the same service.
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I've been using google voice for a year, and I've never paid a dime for anything. Unless you know something I don't know about some new service fee for g-voice when used in concert with VOIP, you may wanna re-assess g-voice altogether. It's flippin' AWESOME!.....
....AND FREE!!!
In all fairness, though.... call quality on the wifi app was poor for me. Volume was really low. Could be the fact that I was using an N1 hacked version, but I doubt it. If g-voice is only using the data you already paid for, then I don't see how it could cost anymore. Maybe I'm missing something though.

robot_agenda said:
How so? The T-Mobile app is free and uses your minutes from the calling plan. Gvoice requires payment ontop of your calling plan. I don't want to pay twice for the same service.
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GVoice doesn't require any payments. Calls to USA & Canada are free. Any other country have their rates, however. We still don't know how exactly is the VoIP implemented on the Nexus S, so can't say how it'll work as of now.

greenstuffs said:
If you want uma you will have to get a blackberry, currently the android devices just have gan.
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UMA and GAN are the same thing...in 2005 UMA specs were incorporated into the 3GPP rel. 6 specs and were renamed "Generic Access Network" or GAN.
The current list of phones that are UMA/GAN can be found here at
www .umatoday.com/smartphones.php
Currently the Nexus S is not there but that could just be because it is not out yet. Just have to see if after the release date if they update the list

Superfrag said:
GVoice doesn't require any payments. Calls to USA & Canada are free. Any other country have their rates, however. We still don't know how exactly is the VoIP implemented on the Nexus S, so can't say how it'll work as of now.
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If I was able to figure out how to use Google Voice to make calls over wireless LAN with mobile number, that will be a good alternative to wifi calling.

Wifi calling works fine on Vibrant

Blackberry supports wifi to cell handoff, Android handsets don't. Not sure whether Android is technically UMA or not. Either way the key is being able to receive calls over wifi. If you're stuck in the bowels of some massive office building and you have zero signal, being able to receive text messages and calls fluidly would be awesome. Especially if they're able to call or text to your regular number.

mingkee said:
If I was able to figure out how to use Google Voice to make calls over wireless LAN with mobile number, that will be a good alternative to wifi calling.
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GVoice on Android isn't VoIP, it just routes through your GVoice number. You need a SIP account like Gizmo5 etc to set it up. GVoice in GMail on your desktop IS VoIP. Hopefully they bring something like that soon..
As for how SIP/VoIP calling will work on the Nexus S, we'll just have to wait a few more days to find out, with concrete details.

Where's the Voice Calling?

According to Samsung's website the tablet can make phone calls...anyone knows how? I am in the US by the way. Thank you,

chogau1 said:
According to Samsung's website the tablet can make phone calls...anyone knows how? I am in the US by the way. Thank you,
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The version from best Buy cannot.
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u got a link to featured voice calling? sounds to me like it may be some 3rd party app.

http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxytab2/7.0/features.html?type=find
Scroll down... clearly says voice calling...maybe the 3g version?
Anyway i found groove ip an app that works nicely

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I think you have to move to Brazil to make calls with your tablet.
Pp.
Delivered to you via microwave technology .

I believe it is only for the 3G version. You may be able to use your tablet though as a bluetooth speakerphone though if you have the wifi version, but don't hold me to that.

I can make voice Skype calls with no problem.... I would guess that you would need a radio for cellular use though..... I would buy a 3/4 g. Version to replace my phone, and if I could.
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Well the voice calling goes over wifi or 3g, using like a VOIP service that allows to make cheap or free calls, Samsung advertise that service on their page and its nowhere to be found in the tablet. Anyway, a google voice account + groove ip can be used to call over wifi free to the us and canada, but its weird that they offer something and don't deliver

chogau1 said:
Well the voice calling goes over wifi or 3g, using like a VOIP service that allows to make cheap or free calls, Samsung advertise that service on their page and its nowhere to be found in the tablet. Anyway, a google voice account + groove ip can be used to call over wifi free to the us and canada, but its weird that they offer something and don't deliver
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The voice calling feature on the site is only for the 3G model. Do you have a 3G model? If not, then you are complaining about a feature the WiFi model never had. The model featured on Samsung's site is clearly the 3G version. If you don't like the tablet just because it can't make phone calls why not just take it back?

imnuts said:
The voice calling feature on the site is only for the 3G model. Do you have a 3G model? If not, then you are complaining about a feature the WiFi model never had. The model featured on Samsung's site is clearly the 3G version. If you don't like the tablet just because it can't make phone calls why not just take it back?
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Clearly the 3g version? I dont think its clear at all in that web page...return for that? Not at all, not the main purpose of the tablet to make calls, just pointing a marketing tactic

It actually works quite well as a SIP phone, The WiFi version of the 7.7 has a Bluetooth phone profile by default, it is best used that way unless you want to use it as a speaker phone.
I have been told that tethered to a LTE razr it actually has better voice quality then the Verizon LTE codec.
But yes it doesn't come with an app as they tend to be branded for most consumer directed VIOP services.

I would by a 3g version, and replace my phone.... If it worked on tmo and was available. Fortunately for me, I bought mine from Costco, so I have a 90 day return period.
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chogau1 said:
Clearly the 3g version? I dont think its clear at all in that web page...return for that? Not at all, not the main purpose of the tablet to make calls, just pointing a marketing tactic
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Maybe not specifically that one page, but their micro-site is meant for the 3G version. Go to specifications and it lists HSPA connectivity. Also, if you look at that one page, half of the images show 3G cell service. On the images page, it shows 3G cell service as well.

[Q] Verizon Galaxy Tab 7.7 incoming phone calls?

Hi,
Using Google Voice and Groove IP, I am able to place ourgoing calls with no problem.
Is there a way or a setting that I don't see that would allow incoming phone calls as well. When I dial the google # from a standard cell phone, it goes right to VM.
Any help would be most appreciated.

Access Google voice with a browser. login and under settings add Google chat as another forwarding line. Then edit your forwarded mobile phone number and under advanced settings have Google voice ring your other lines if it can't reach your mobile phone. Now when someone calls your mobile number and u don't pick up, it will ring your tablet.

Should have gotten an international voice+3g tab, much better than going through all these steps. just saying.....
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I realize most everyone on here tries to find a work around from having to pay for anything.. but in this case why not just make it easy on yourself and use Skype? I have been paying VZW 100.00 per month, 1200.00 per year! for my smart phone for about 6yrs but recently suspended it in favor of trying something different.
I got the idea when I had my Xoom and and it worked so well that I sold that and recently purchased the much lighter, pocketable, portable Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7
I still pay VZW 30.00 for a 2GB data plan per month but Id have to pay that with my smart phone anyway.. I then use (free) google voice for all my text and pay a subscription to Skype of 2.99per month or 30.00 for the whole year for unlimited calls.. I also purchased a number from them which is another 30.00 per year so people can call me. So it comes out to under 70.00 for the whole year! rather than 1200.00
I know that may not work for everyone.. it's not ideal having to use two different numbers and if your data strength is so so it may not work so well.. I also know there are probably many many other ways to do this.. but for me I don't think 70.00 per year is a lot to pay plus the convenience of not having to set much up totally works for me..

@bioshock22, you can achieve what you just described using what OP is using... And you don't pay the $70/yr. GrooveIP/Google voice gives you a free phone number of your choice and free unlimited incoming / outgoing calls to any US/Canadian number. OP has a single phone number for texting and calls all for free. He just pays verizon for the data plan.
@aximtreo, I don't have a forwarding number enabled for Google voice. I just have Google chat checked for forwarding so I can receive calls on the tablet.
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As I said in my post I am sure there are many many ways to do this but for me it is all about convenience.. I have no desire to spend a whole day looking through hundreds of these forum posts reading what app this guy recommends only to have another guy say this one is better or this one is better or this one is better.. THEN have to figure out how to forward from google voice, google talk, google this, google that etc. etc.
Like Denzel say's in the movie Philadelphia.. "Explain it to me like I'm a four-year-old"
Rarely does anyone ever do that on here.. everyone assumes you already have an idea what to do so if you don't you better free up a whole day because you'll be spending that time digging through post, after post, after post..

interesting thread. been thinking about this for weeks.
what I wonder is whether anyone is making use of their bluetooth headsets? can calls from either skype or gvoice/grooveip be initiated and answered this way? if yes, I'm almost sure to give up my cellphone entirely! otherwise, I don't think I'd like holding up a 7.7 inch tab up to my noggin like I would my smartphone.

ZenNook said:
interesting thread. been thinking about this for weeks.
what I wonder is whether anyone is making use of their bluetooth headsets? can calls from either skype or gvoice/grooveip be initiated and answered this way? if yes, I'm almost sure to give up my cellphone entirely! otherwise, I don't think I'd like holding up a 7.7 inch tab up to my noggin like I would my smartphone.
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I'm using an international version though, but skype works through bluetooth dunno if you can initiate it though.