Strange battery - Thunderbolt General

The last couple of days I've noticed something strange with my battery. I keep it on the charger all night and when I get up in the morning my phone says the battery is at 100% and the charge LED is green. The instant I pull my phone off the charger it drops a couple percent. I thought that was strange so this morning instead of pulling the phone off I just shut it down. Once the phone was completely off the LED went from Green to Orange as if it was charging again. It look another 20 minutes to turn green again. I powered the phone up and as soon as sense is loaded I am back to 93% battery.
Anyone else see this? I've wiped battery stats and did the whole calibration but that didn't seem to fix the issue.

That is normal... Once the batt hits 100%, the charger goes off and lets it drop to 95% or so and starts charging again. It does this to protect the battery. Also when you turn off, it will restart the charge.

The battery is lying, but that's not such a bad thing.

Check this out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051

My battery has been acting up the last few days as well. As in, going from a full charge to ~35% in 3 hours and then down to ~12% an hour later. No new apps added, nothing out of the ordinary done. Regular uses and charging cycle. I normally reset my battery stats when I flash a new incarnation of a new ROM, but after a couple of days everything seems to be back to normal.
I've been baffled by this, but have yet to find the culprit. An app or searching for signal are my only thoughts.

qman66 said:
Check this out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
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This makes perfect sense, thank you for the link!

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Defective thunderbolt battery?

Good Morning everybody!
I think I have a defective thunderbolt battery, sometimes when I pull my phone off the charger it drops to 95%. Funny thing this is not a everyday thing. Anybody having a similar problem like this? Sorry if this been discuss before. Have a bless day everybody...on my way to the office.
I have the same thing happen. There is something goofy with how the meter reports battery level. If you reboot your phone it drops even more.
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Yea I notice that too. I seen my battery drop down 15 percent after rebooting. Is the battery defective? Or the phone is defective?
Bump charge it. Charge it all the way. Unplug, turn it off, then on, and keep charging.
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The phone/battery aren't defective. I have the extended battery so I never bump charge it, but he is right. Charge it up until your charging light goes green, unplug it and then turn it off. Once it shuts down, plug it back in and will now be orange. Charge it until it's green again. Sometimes it will take a few minutes, sometimes an hour. I'm also color blind so I can never tell whether that damned light is red/orange/green. >.<
chrisjm00 said:
The phone/battery aren't defective. I have the extended battery so I never bump charge it, but he is right. Charge it up until your charging light goes green, unplug it and then turn it off. Once it shuts down, plug it back in and will now be orange. Charge it until it's green again. Sometimes it will take a few minutes, sometimes an hour. I'm also color blind so I can never tell whether that damned light is red/orange/green. >.<
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He gonna have to turn it on then plug the charger in. If left off then plugged in the phone will boot into recovery.
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charge ur batt. to 100%, then go into cwm and clear batt. stats, when u turn it back on it should b around 80-85% then charge all the way back full again and then u will b at full capacity
obriennathaniel said:
charge ur batt. to 100%, then go into cwm and clear batt. stats, when u turn it back on it should b around 80-85% then charge all the way back full again and then u will b at full capacity
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is this all the time we have to do, I have the extended battery and it doesnt drop and I read about clearing the batterystats.bin but is this something we always have to do when we charge the phone? when I use the standard stock battery it drops with no problem
I didn't have any issues until I wiped the battery stats and now, my battery is constantly inconsistent. I would not recommend doing it as it has nothing but a pain in my arse since.
Have tried "bumping it" which essentially means to charge it to 100%, restart it, then charge it back again from whatever it dropped to.. Mine initially was around 85ish.. After a few "bumps" it crept up to 90 or 91 and then wouldn't go any higher. I charged it back to 100% and decided to follow the advice from another article which said to let it deplete to 0%.. In doing that, surprisingly it "froze" in a couple of places, I don't recall the 1st % but the 2nd % was definitely at the 28% mark. It literally sat there for a good 2+ hours with screen on max and didn't go down. Eventually it went down to 1% and I charged it back to 100%.
Issues still remain, wondering if I should've let it completely die out and force itself off?
Lesson: DO NOT MESS WITH BATTERY STATS with CW.
obriennathaniel said:
charge ur batt. to 100%, then go into cwm and clear batt. stats, when u turn it back on it should b around 80-85% then charge all the way back full again and then u will b at full capacity
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Where do I get into CWM, to do this?
Thanks for your help everybody! I'm sorry if this is a dumb question...what is CWM? My device is stock.
CWM = Clockwork Mod.. Goto Market, download ROM manager, then you can flash CWM. Not sure if that'll do you any good if you're not rooted though.
why when I reboot my phone like 15% of the battery life drops I love this damn phone man...i cant put it down while im at work
The battery reading after reboot is wierd.
Yesterday I was at 51% and draining are at a pretty steady rate like normal. After rebooting, it showed 41% but then it say at 41% for AWHILE.. after like an hour, it read 40% and started discharging at the normal rate.
Your battery gauge is lying to you (and it's not such a bad thing)
Good Read
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Your battery gauge is lying to you (and it's not such a bad thing)
Good Read
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Thanks for the repost, I had skimmed this thread earlier but don't recall it being so detailed. Seems like the moral of the story is that while "bump charging" works, it's not really recommended as it can reduce the overall life of the battery. Wonderful, now I regret ever messing with the battery stats at all, although I can't say for sure I didn't have this issue prior to doing so.
My OEM battery wouldn't hold a charge even after charging it all day... I took it to the VZ store and they replaced it for free...... I also just bought the larger 2750 mAh battery.... works great!

From AWESOME to TERRIBLE overnight

Well, this was interesting... Since day 1, I have had great battery life and have not experienced what everyone else has been experiencing.. An occassional lock-up/reboot, but nothing major.
A couple of weeks ago, I switched to a backup battery (andida). Things have been going well w/ that battery. Yesterday, I updated cwm.. While the andida battery was out, I decided to switch back to the stock battery for a while. Then, the following items took place all within a few hours of use, which I have not experienced.. ever before:
- Battery temp running high.. Andida constantly hanging around 22.2 - 23.2. Stock was hitting around 43 until i rebooted the phone, then dropped to 40. It is currently running at 36.
- 2 shutdowns. I could not boot the phone past the LG logo after the shutdown. Was able to boot into CWM though > went to shutdown > tried to boot, same thing. Had to pull the battery in order for it to boot.
- Received a phone call, answered, but the phone kept ringing during the entire phone conversation.
- 2 screen lockups. Could slide the unlock, get the haptic feedback, but that was it. It would not unlock. Had to reboot.
- 1 black screen of death? Total black screen with the task bar displayed. Was able to go into settings, pull down the task bar, etc. Background was blacked out. Reboot, fixed.
- Can not get gps. Was driving for 5min trying to get a GPS lock, nothing. Opened up GPS test and not a single satellite showed up in the list.
- Finally... and worst of all. Last night I plug in the phone for a couple of hours. As I'm going to bed, I disconnect the usb from it.. and take a glance to see where it charged to - 100%. I go to bed at around 1:30am. I wake up at 7:30a, turn on the screen of the phone, and it gives low battery warning. It's at 2%. I reboot the phone to make sure. It's at 1%.
So idk.. maybe something was stuck running. I'll find out here shortly after this charge is done.. but I am seeing a major difference in the operation of the phone after putting the stock battery back in. I had not experienced this when I was running the stock battery in the past. (I had an occasional lockup/reboot.. but not to this scale.. and I had always had fantastic battery life. Every single time I unplugged before bed and had 100%, I would have 98% when I woke up).
Suggestions? Changes were updating to the new CWM 4 and putting the stock battery back in. Running Bionix RC1..which I have been running for a while. I'll let this sucker charge up and see what it does. Maybe I should wipe the batt stats?
yeah wipe the batt stats. possibly try cm7 its really stable now. i know it doesnt have the a2dp but every else works. i would say another kernel also faux's or morific work fine. use setcpu if your going to oc. if you choose to flash another i would do a complete wipe of everything then install so hopefully the problems wont pop back up in the new flash. i read in one of the thread that if your battery is dated 3/2011 it will have issues but the 4/2011 or whatever will have less reboot and freezes issues may wanna try getting a replacement if you wanna stick with bionix until krylon does an update.
The andida battery doesn't have a temp sensor, so it's worthless for testing temperatures.
well, idk.. who knows what the crap happened. I charged to 79% and unplugged. 2.5hrs later, I'm still at 72%. That's around 3% an hr. Last night was 17%/hr.. Something happened last night.. Man, I'd love to know what took place.
Either I had an app going wild all night, or the battery really never charged.. and the 100% was deceptive. It's just nuts how all of these probs all of a sudden surfaced right after cwm 4 and putting the stock battery back in. They never surfaced b4 on the same ROM and with the same battery that I used for weeks and weeks.
O'well....
schmit said:
well, idk.. who knows what the crap happened. I charged to 79% and unplugged. 2.5hrs later, I'm still at 72%. That's around 3% an hr. Last night was 17%/hr.. Something happened last night.. Man, I'd love to know what took place.
Either I had an app going wild all night, or the battery really never charged.. and the 100% was deceptive. It's just nuts how all of these probs all of a sudden surfaced right after cwm 4 and putting the stock battery back in. They never surfaced b4 on the same ROM and with the same battery that I used for weeks and weeks.
O'well....
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I know, it is just weird but it does happens from timr to time.
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When the battery is less than when it removed,After some time and putting it back will be full power display
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You should wipe battery stats when doing any major rom change (stock to custom or between different roms).
Battery will always be wonky the first time before a full charge/discharge on the rom unless it is 100% and battery stats are wiped.
Typically what I do (on CM7), is when I wake up the phone is at 100%. I download the latest nightly while I'm in the shower. Jump out, it starts to flash. When its done and booted up, I wipe stats then unplug the phone and go to work.
I don't always wipe stats. But with all of the battery tweaks and fixes he's done, I will occasionally.
I very rarely ever completely turn my phone off, but last night I decided to turn it off right before I went to sleep. My battery was down to 25% right before I turned it off. When I woke up this morning the phone would not turn on. So I decided to plug it into the wall charger to see if it would help. Well the phone did turn on after I plugged it in and to my surprise the battery was showing as 0% charged which is why it wouldn't turn on without being plugged in.
So, that means that something drained my battery from 25% to 0% while the phone was completely turned off. What in the world would be running while the phone is turned off that would drain the battery like that?

[Q] Quirky Battery Stats?

Okay, so each time I reboot my phone, my battery capacity increases dramatically! At one point, I got the notice to put the phone on the charger, and after a reboot, I was back to some 25%? Just now I was at 40%, a reboot now brings it to 56%!
What exactly is up? I charged my phone till it said 100%, then used an app called battery calibration to remove the battery stats file, and then let the phone drain till it shut off. (I couldnt reboot it). I put it on the charger, and let it charge back to 100%. I am confused?!?! This is, by the way, a chichitec 1900mA/Hr battery which has lasted me about 16 hours so far today with pretty moderate use! LOTS of web surfing, internet, and about an hour of phone calls. Its at 50% (or whatever it really is). I know its a great battery, but I hate thinking there is such an oddity about it.
Should I charge back to 100%, then wipe that stats, this time with CWM?
Matt
this is exactly what i was talking to you about yesterday in my "charging times" thread.. seems lots of people are having this issue...is your phone brand new? could just not be calibrated yet
mattdub1 said:
this is exactly what i was talking to you about yesterday in my "charging times" thread.. seems lots of people are having this issue...is your phone brand new? could just not be calibrated yet
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New battery, new ROM, it takes a couple of charging cycling for these things to get working properly....give it time after the initial calibration.
and its not a problem that the phone won't switch om after discharge, it just shows that your battery was completely empty....plug in charger and wait for LED to light!
Quick question,
Is the Battery Calibration (CWM wipe at 100%) a phone, battery or ROM calibration ? I know you need to go through a few cycles after calibrating.
I have done it and since changed ROMs a few times so just wondered. Phone is only a week old so far.

[Q] Charges to 100% then settles at 97% while still charging?

So I plugged my GN in last night and stayed up late enough to see it reach 100%, but I left it charging all night. When I woke up this morning, the lock screen said Charged but my battery widget said 97%. This has happened a few times and every time I can fix it by just unplugging it and plugging it back in. Anyone know why it does this? Could it be because I get lots of emails at night and the LED running all night decreases the battery a little? Thanks!
I think it stops charging when it reaches 100%, therefore the 3% may be lost during that time. This is a good thing, because a laptop, or anything else, eventually the battery will go bad. When you unplug it, then plug it back in, it can cause that battery to go bad faster. Again, I think this is it. My phone seems to do that. I would not worry about it though.

Battery/Phone Shutting Down

Recently had to replace battery.
Phone was shutting almost immediately after it was disconnected from charger. Charging status when not switched on showed the battery kinda going in reverse. Phone was really odd as it would suggest the battery had 100% charge and then within minutes of disconnecting it was shutting down.
I tried a factory reset/refresh with no change. So I ordered a Genuine replacement battery off flea bay and installed that last Thursday.
Initially phone seemed ok, then wen a bit weird and shut down even though charge was like at 70% or so. Wouldn't restart until plugged in and then in shutdown mode the battery/charging indicator would show 0% and then very quickly showed 70%. Good bit though was it was going up and not down like before.
Fully charged phone overnight. It then seemed really good and lasted until Tuesday with 66% charge still showing. I had not installed FB or Twitter which made a huge difference. Then yesterday it just shutdown again. When plugged in showed 0%, within minutes back to 70% and then charged to 100% in the space of an hour or so.
So I am looking for any advice. Is this just calibration issues that the phone needs to get past. Is it possible the phone has corruption int he ROM.
I appreciate it might be a hardware fault but seems weird that the replacement battery is clearly showing a big improvement suggesting battery was EOL after 2 years use.
TIA
G
GougeM said:
Recently had to replace battery.
Phone was shutting almost immediately after it was disconnected from charger. Charging status when not switched on showed the battery kinda going in reverse. Phone was really odd as it would suggest the battery had 100% charge and then within minutes of disconnecting it was shutting down.
I tried a factory reset/refresh with no change. So I ordered a Genuine replacement battery off flea bay and installed that last Thursday.
Initially phone seemed ok, then wen a bit weird and shut down even though charge was like at 70% or so. Wouldn't restart until plugged in and then in shutdown mode the battery/charging indicator would show 0% and then very quickly showed 70%. Good bit though was it was going up and not down like before.
Fully charged phone overnight. It then seemed really good and lasted until Tuesday with 66% charge still showing. I had not installed FB or Twitter which made a huge difference. Then yesterday it just shutdown again. When plugged in showed 0%, within minutes back to 70% and then charged to 100% in the space of an hour or so.
So I am looking for any advice. Is this just calibration issues that the phone needs to get past. Is it possible the phone has corruption int he ROM.
I appreciate it might be a hardware fault but seems weird that the replacement battery is clearly showing a big improvement suggesting battery was EOL after 2 years use.
TIA
G
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Same problem here i will try to install the oficial rom of xt890 if works i back here if not i don't know what to do
Sooo............issue is still present. Odd thing which I am unable to confirm, due to rnadomness of shutdowns, it that I think it is slowly learning the state of the battery as it originally was shutting down at 70% after 2-3 days on standby. then 66% hen 56%. I did a clear cache partition and a fresh install but still the issue was present.
Clearly the new battery is lasting longer than the old one, just the phone does not seem to know to reduce the charge indicator all the way to 0%.
Anyone any idea why this might be happening.
TIA
G
Just to add i'm having the same problem.
Symptoms started last week running the stock kitkat rom so i ordered and a fitted a new battery. Initially everything looked good phone said 100% left it over night and noticed it had shut off when i came back to it. Plugged it in to the charger and it said 0% so i charged back to 100%, booted up android and almost immediately it begins discharging rapidly, i would say within 15 minutes its back down to 0%.. I've done this a few times now even left it on charge overnight for 8 hours but its still discharging rapidly everytime. The craziest thing is even if it says 0% in android i can still boot in to recovery and flash away so clearly there is charge in the battery its just android thats out of sync.
What i've tried so far:
Different wall chargers/USB leads/Outlets
Wiped everything in TWRP and flashed CM11
Factory Reset several times
Various battery calibration apps
My next step is going to be trying RSD to flash the stock ROM but beyond that i dont know what to do.
I'm experiencing EXACTLY THE SAME ISSUE with my Razr i, replaced the battery and it's still discharging very fast
Eventually managed to resolve my new battery issue simply by fully charging and discharging several times. It started to hold charge after the 7th charge and after several more discharges it's now up to full capacity.

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